He’s literally TV-Y7 Red Hood so it’s Jason Todd
He’s literally TV-Y7 Red Hood so it’s Jason Todd
Nah it's actually Tim Drake pissed that Dick stole his staff
Actually he's me
The real Red X is the friend you made along the way
Real answer probably yes but it doesn't really matter Jason Todd, Batman and the Joker don't even really exist as far as the Teen Titan show was conserned unless you count TT Go. Even if it was Jason it wouldn't be a satisfying resolution because we don't even know who Robin isIt's Dick. Maybe Terra would work as Red X but I don't know if that works for the timeline, I haven't watched the show in forever. Red X was just supposed to be Robin and they brought him back as villain as a wink to Red hood with no plan to ever unmask him. The whole series final is about not getting the closer you think you are owed deal with it.
It was obviously meant to simple be some OC for the show, get fucking real, that was it.
It wasn't Jason, it wasn't Grant, it wasn't Terra, it would've been some completely new character.
It's just a complete coincidence that he's similar to Jason, since the red Hood comic was being made at the same time. Cartoon production time is months if not years, and they don't really coordinate much with comics on a monthly basis.
Beast Boy had a whiteboard in the show guessing who it could be, and one of the names he put down was "Jason Todd?"
but just the fact alone Beast Boy guessed it in an offhand joke way guarantees it was not him. It was definitely just an OC because the joke guess has to be wrong.
The best thing about the show was it ignoring the rest of the DC universe, besides characters that showed up almost only in the NTT comics. Made it feel both like it was confident enough to stand on its own but also a very specific corner of a larger universe.
It's Dick Grayson. We saw in the show.
The episode with the imposter Red X aired like 6 months before Under the Red Hood was released. I cannot see a world in which Glen Murakami was brought in on a comic arc what had to be closer to 18 months ahead of time to get the production done on that schedule.
It'd require Dennis the Menace levels of coincidence to have both of those hands decide to have Jason Todd pick up a former villain mantel starting with "Red".
I'm not convinced that Jason or any other Robin exists in the TT universe. The cameo on the whiteboard from "X" is only really meant to be a non-canonical "haha" blink-and-you'll miss reference to the source material because otherwise how would Beast Boy even know who he was?
Obviously Mento read Batman's mind at some point in the past and told him.
Jason Todd, Batman and the Joker don't even really exist as far as the Teen Titan show was conserned
Perhaps he was the audience itself.
BB knows who Dick is, so he knows who Batman is. From there not a leap for the Titans to see a new robin had taken over and Bruce Wayne had adopted a new orphan sexslave
BB knows who Dick is, so he knows who Batman is.
We can't assume this. Considering that he never takes off his mask and keeps secrets from them all the time I doubt Robin would reveal his identity to the other Titans.
Didn't a writer said they played with red X being Damian Wayne?
Nah he's definitely Dick's original Red X suit that Slade shoved a robot in and gave sentience.
Damian Wayne didn't exist when this cartoon was created.
DC did preemptively teased Red X being Damian Wayne in the comics and was originally planned to be Arkham Knight. Even the cancelled Damian Wayne Batman game the morality system turns you into Arkham knight if you picked the path of the assassin over detective.
Red X literally predates Jason Todd as Red Hood.
I'd love if they just casually solved this mystery as a throwaway gag in TT:GO! Like maybe he shows up and casually takes his mask off, or someone just shrugs and goes "oh yeah, it was Jason Todd." like it's no big deal.
It's the empty suit having come to life on its own due to that weird power battery used to fuel it. Incidentally, it broke OUT of the vault, not IN.
Why even steal a supersuit if you're going to shimmy through the vents to get both out and in?
Yes but devil's advocate, it doesn't pre date Jason Todd the kid that stole the wheels off the Batmobile.
Also devil's advocate. All that shows is Robin has a father and there are bats in the ceiling of the building they're in ;-) The point still stands that the show had no interest in dealing with Robins identity or the legacy of the Batfam. The show went out of it's way to never call Robin/Nightwing "Dick", despite the fact there's a wacky races style episode about a briefcase full of his personal belongings that ends with airing his "secrets" to the team off screen.
If it is Jason then 1 of 3 things have to be true,
1. there were two Robins at the same time.
2. Jason was never Robin and is just a guy that stole the suit.
3. It just became Jason retroactively because of the fandom.
If it is Jason it's just yhat and the whole Red hood was a happy accident or a writer had some inside knowledge that they are not willing to admit to publicly to this day.
The briefcase was nothing but a Pulp Fiction reference.
The episode was one year after Jason returned in Hush, which was a very big deal at the time. Loeb and Lee backed out of their original idea to make Hush be Jason because they were under contract to make a new character, but it spread the idea of Jason returning as a new foe.
That again.
Well, let's go.
No, Red X is not Jason, the first is obviously Dick and the second is nobody. Just like that.
No way this version of Robin revealed his identity to the others. Even Beast Boy didn't tell the others his name
I thought it was said at some point that in this show, Red X was "just Red X"
Bragging rights.
The show went out of it's way to never call Robin/Nightwing "Dick"
I don't think that you're arguing that this Robin isn't Dick, even from the most skeptical perspective. Being Nightwing it's a pretty big Dickindication. The only other person to take on that identity was Superman. And there's really no denying this was the intention, at least by Season 2. Larry says he's Robin's counterpart from the 5th dimension, his name is Nosyarg Kcid and the show has the text appear on screen and loop around to the background spelling out Dick Grayson and Cyborg compares their DNA and finds they match.
Taking that in you would have to explain that Larry is just a Robin superfan. Who named himself after the first Robin, lied about actually being Robin, and used his imp magic to make Cyborg's DNA detectors say they matched. All to cover up the fact that he couldn't tell the difference between a Dick, Tim, or Jason, or didn't care to update his moniker despite being ever-so willing to do that.
Glen mused in promotions that the TT heroes wouldn't have their secret identities used. But that really eroded as the series went on. Starfire is eventually called Koriander in a space episode, and has. Cyborg has an arc where he goes undercover as "Stone". The last season makes calling Beast Boy "Garfield' normal. Raven doesn't... didn't have a traditional secret identity, but her secret past and origin did come into the limelight, which basically happens for everyone... ... ... ... except Robin.
I suppose you could make the argument that means the rule was really only for Robin, to separate him from 10 years of Batsaturation in animation. Or because of an embargo on rights. But I don't know, I feel like this is more of an element of 'leaving options open', but my gut could be wrong.
if you trust the comic they know who he is. In the show i think they just wanted to not mention the Batverse as much as possible
The chibi shorts are objectively non-canon
I like the idea of him being Grant Wilson even if it makes no sense in the cartoon
Captain America and Batman were both killed off and later revealed to be just back in time at the same time.
Did Batman and Captain America both come back to life under the identity "The Black Knight"?
Forgot about this comic, he takes off his mask in this one too IIRC (we don't get to see his eyes tho)
Still feels out of character to me honestly
He needs his own show. He would be like Lupin the Third, but in costume.
It shouldn’t be anyone in particular. Red X works best if the person behind the mask is otherwise a complete nobody - and part of the reason why the individual wanted to adopt the alias anyway. Turning it into another “guess the established DC character” fest just spoils it, just like it happened with the Arkham Knight.