I'm in a very theological mood today, and since it *is* Sunday, I thought I'd start this thread. Post stuff that good, bad and/or weird.
Cartoons About Religion/Cults/Other Such Things
MORMON JESUS
do mormons actually believe this
Joseph Smith
Explain to me why people refer to certain religions as cults and others as not. They are all the same thing.
Aum Shinrkyo made their own anime.
There's a big difference between
these are our beliefs, pls donate to help us fix up the church and give to charity for you(this might not happen if the guy is corrupt)
And
hey this guy is our god and he can save us with his easily disprovable magical powers, now we need all your money to build an UFO to take us to Paradise(this will never be built and your money will be used to buy a yacht which you will not be invited to)
mormons are not told stuff unless they're parents tell them (which they're not supposed to, secret shit, 'sacred', whatever) and no missionaries ever mention this shit ever. It's a "trick you" and effort justification kind of cult.
Yeah, they're a cult, they're not Christian in any way other mainstream Christians would recognize. They're dangerous, they bleed people dry who genuine believe their shit, way more than 10% of gross income forever, tons of donations demanded, free time and labor constantly, always pushing young families to have more kids than they can afford.
(ex mormon)
Remember, these two cartoons are anti-Mormon propaganda, not created nor authorized by the Mormon Church.
No, I live in Utah and these cartoons are at best intentionally misleading as to what they believe.
I'm sure you left becuase they told you to not have gay sex .
Is this that one where they said other races were created by the devil?
"cult" is just cultural practice
a fundamental social system, which because they are so undeveloped can be dangerous in desperation (a new cultural practice has to start from scratch, frequently paranoid about the world around them 'opposing' their batshit claims whereas older religions don't care when people say their beliefs are nonsense because they are old -- but all religion starts as dangerous cults.) and always relies on powerful personalities that members unquestioningly follow in a frenzy.
they're not Christian in any way other mainstream Christians would recognize
They aren't Christian period. Mormons are unironically closer to Muslims than they are Christians
cults don’t let you leave and seek to control your life and isolate you. no amount of millennial fedora cope is going to make living in a compound the same as singing carols in church on a sunday
cartoons are misleading
its a secretive cult that hides all the 'true secrets' behind masonic rituals, I think the cartoons are in bad taste but when you go to the temple it's going to be an embarrassing shock to most converts. It is crazy space opera.
ad hominins
I quit the church because when I was 12 I looked up "Joseph Smith" on wikipedia and I read it.
They aren't Christian period. Mormons are unironically closer to Muslims than they are Christians
That makes no sense
Trusting Wikipedia
Counter-argument:
churchofjesuschrist.org
No, Mormons believe in
mormon jesus
>Trusting Wikipedia
I don't trust WP but please tell me what kind of lies does it spreads about Joseph Smith?
Was polygamy
nta
*was his polygamy a lie spread by those that hated his teachings?
No, its largely misinformation based on what Evangelical denominations have heard of the LDS Church at the time without really giving them a good faith argument. Talk to any well-read Mormon and they will tell you otherwise.
mormon time
Not Anon Babble but here you go:
youtube.com
Yes, all the good stuff is in Doctrine & Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price.
Elohim lives on a giant crystal ball with his angels, Mormon Jesus will have Earth and it will be turned into a crystal ball too once he is done.
Doctrine and Covenants
Section 130
4 In answer to the question—Is not the reckoning of God's time, angel's time, prophet's time, and man's time, according to the planet on which they reside?
5 I answer, Yes. But there are no angels who minister to this earth but those who do belong or have belonged to it.
6 The angels do not reside on a planet like this earth;
7 But they reside in the presence of God, on a globe like a sea of glass and fire, where all things for their glory are manifest, past, present, and future, and are continually before the Lord.
8 The place where God resides is a great Urim and Thummim.
9 This earth, in its sanctified and immortal state, will be made like unto crystal and will be a Urim and Thummim to the inhabitants who dwell thereon, whereby all things pertaining to an inferior kingdom, or all kingdoms of a lower order, will be manifest to those who dwell on it; and this earth will be Christ's.
Off the top of my head:
The numbers of their faithful and of their leadership/clergy.
Whether their founders are/were/remain either agreeable or controversial to the public at large.
The managerial complexity of their institutions and organizations.
Their overall degree of secrecy/esotericism, and their consequent level of openness (or lack therof) to public scrutiny.
The historical pedigree/longevity/continuity/legitimacy of their doctrinal tenets and assertions (relative to other contemporaneous belief systems).
Whether their rites and practices are considered to be either innocuous or disruptive (if not outright illegal) by a given society.
Whether they possess the conventional trappings of major world religions, such as sacred literature and items, prayers, symbols, iconography, liturgies, hierarchies for the clergy/leadership, and buildings designated as places of worship.
Whether they have good/decent enough PR with goverment authorities, secular organizations, and the mass media.
The level of cultural, sociopolitical, and financial influence that their adherents hold, both in group and individually.
Elohim lives on a giant crystal ball with his angels, Mormon Jesus will have Earth and it will be turned into a crystal ball too once he is done.
Kind of seems more poetic to me if you don’t take it at face value.
Urim and Thummim
[two objects of unknown nature, possibly used for divination…] - American Oxford Dictionary
Can be interpreted that God lives in a place where all is revealed to him. “all will be made clear” or revealed and that everything will be made pure again on earth. Different that it ascribes God as having a physical being, but not too different from most post-millenarian Christian beliefs regarding the Second Coming.
David Berg's puppet show.
Nuff said.
I pretty much have to watch any Adam and Eve cartoon, especially the ones where Eve gives me impure thoughts.
Is Jesus an angel in this religion?
No
No no, there’s more to be said, like posting it you fucking lazy cunt
youtube.com
Joseph Smith was a chad. He rejected the whiskey that would've dulled the pain from the leg operation.
A literal son of Elohim, so not part of a trinity, not God.
That's probably the darkest rabbit hole I've learned about via true crime YouTubers since Color Climax. Evil heinous shit.
Color Climax
a fellow Internet Investigator viewer I see.
"Let's invest-a-gaaate"
I like the King of the Hill episode about religion, Its interesting because is not trying to be an episode pro or anti religion but more about how shallow Hank faith is, everything start when the family arrives late for church and see another family sitting in their usual spot and the pastor not taking sides in the matter is reason enough for him to find another church, from there is just jokes about the different kind of churches. So in the end is less the philosophical or spiritual concept of religion and more the religious experience from the POV of an average person.
churchofjesuschrist.org
Its real
It's son of Heavenly Father, Mormons almost never refer to the Father as Elohim except in sinday school classes.
He is a separate being of the Godhead with God and the Holy Spirit, but acts in the father’s name on his behalf.
Talk to any well-read Mormon and they will tell you otherwise
Strange, why didn’t you advise that anon to go and read Doctrine & Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price himself? Afraid that people will find that ridiculous anti-Mormon cartoon isn’t so off the mark after all?
Never trust anyone who says "Just talk to my pastor bro, he can explain it to you" Go look directly at their literature of fundamental beliefs and reach your own conclusion.
Just part of being the new kid in town.
Don’t skip The Tragedy of Man then.
That makes no sense
Figures, it takes a level of doormat not to notice the hilarious similarities between Joseph Smith and Muhammad, prophets of their own making who claim to have gotten the true continuation of the gospel hundreds / a thousand years later directly from God to make things right after the poor sheep have lead astray for so long. So similar it even pretends to respect Jesus as he deserves by completely deconstructing what the founders of Christianity itself said Jesus was.
Strange, why didn’t you advise that anon to go and read Doctrine & Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price himself? Afraid that people will find that ridiculous anti-Mormon cartoon isn’t so off the mark after all?
No, the resources are all there for anyone to look at. Moving the goalposts there, anon, didn’t say he can’t go look at the D&C or PoGP but your baseline Mormon will watch the cartoon and most likely say: “thats kind of misconstrued, here’s why…”.
Never trust anyone who says "Just talk to my pastor bro, he can explain it to you" Go look directly at their literature of fundamental beliefs and reach your own conclusion.
I agree with that premise too.
endless celestial sex
I was raised on Psalty.
That makes no sense
Well, let's see:
Write new book that proclaims random asshole as "God's new special dude" and throws out everything in the Old and New Testaments
Denies divinity of Christ and the Trinity, thereby making them, by definition, not Christians
Weird cultish features like multiple wives, child marriage, ordering followers to sperg out/murder at anybody who criticizes the cult
Seems to make a lot of sense, actually. The only thing Mormons are lacking are RPGs and suicide vests.
Anyone have that Mormons cartoon whose main character looks like Conan the Barbarian?
EIT! Classic over here
Just stumbled across this and got a good kek.
youtube.com
this is the reality for the vast majority of american Christians, they only go to church because its the American tradition, they have to go to church or people may think they are atheists and attack them.
so what you have is a community that goes to the church just to show off, but the momment they go back home they abandon whatever Christian tradition and live the most mundane secular life they can
i always found lame how cartoons always portray Adam and Eve as 2 modern secular looking humans.
but if you go after the source materials, ancient jew myts you realise if Adam and Eve show up today both would look ALIEN to us.
Like imagine that tall greay guy from prometheus but with some hair
III NEED AN ANGEEEEL
The only thing Mormons are lacking are RPGs and suicide vests.
You can get that in Harry Turtledove's books.
tfw they get to the part where they encourage kids to kiss and "cuddle" with adults and the davidito puppet gives the camera that thousand-cock stare
this shit is fucked.
they have to go to church or people may think they are atheists and attack them.
this is not a thought that has ever appeared in the mind of any regular church-goer in America. The kind of person you're thinking of just does it as an excuse to socialize.