Jubilee

She had a better outfit. Also she was a vampire and that's cool

Yes.

Tremendously so. Most of Kitty's stories where acting like a brat or having a fit of some kind. Jubilee was there in more pivotal moments, showed more genuine motions of emotional vulnerability AND support to her team and was a far, FAR better example of what the heart of the team should be.

doesnt show up until the AoA movie

doesnt even show her powers

They just add a new teen member every 10 or so years. The teen heroes are the only ones that ever age.

Johnny Storm was 17 when FF began. Iceman was 15 when X-Men began. Colossus was also 17 when he joined the team. Richard Rider was also like 16 when his series started. Teens need to be replaced often because after about 5 years they turn 30.

White is always right.

inb4 ((()))

Jubilee had more interesting design especially compared to early kitty's weird mask gimp suit thing. But both were pretty great and were meant to kind of be the new kid/youngest member of the team who we saw the world through rose colored glasses. We got to see them see the ups and downs of being mutants and the X-men etc. Kind of sad seeing them both so depressed and beaten down by the world, one went on a murder hobo rampage the other became a single mom and vampire.

Also wish we had more comics with them both in it and interacting, it'd be like when the yugioh protagonist meet up

we need to see jubilee getting pounded while she yells out outdated 90s slang

Idk if this is a reference to something but I'm down for a good ole fashion Chink Copulation

Also wish we had more comics with them both in it and interacting

Yes. There was nothing interesting about Shadowcat. And the only thing she had going for her is lusting for Colossus.

I've never cared about those two as a couple and never will.

Equally unnecessary

Better design by every metric

Better personality

Better interactions with the rest of the team

Contributes a more interesting character to storylines

More fun powers

Yes.

The only reason to like Shadowcat other than the fact that she's canonically down to fuck a guy way older than her and you think the taboo is hot was if you specifically were close to her in age when the comics were coming out and didn't have enough testosterone to even day dream about a girl who wasn't the definition of "attainable bland bitch". Nothing interesting or attractive about her design beyond "not-ugly barely teenage girl" and she didn't even really have a slutty costume, fun personality, or kinky powers to compensate either.

Absolutely. Jubilee was always shown to be a compassionate, down-to-earth girl barely hidden under layers of attitude. She complimented the older X-Men well, and even at her brattiest she was still endearing and came through when they needed her. Her characterization still shines even through the worst writing.

Kitty was always portrayed as a sheltered, snobbish book smart child, and it got even worse once she became an adult. More interested in thrill seeking and proving herself right than true altruism. Even when she finally mellowed out in Excalibur, she still had a massive chip on her shoulder that not even death and resurrection could knock off. It's a shame modern writers seemed to have latched on to that perpetual college activist attitude as her main trait, because she could be decent if they actually allowed her to develop beyond that.

surprisingly little port of her
despite the bared midriff and short shorts

in the long run yes, better character.

Vampires are lame as fuck.
"ooohhhhh noooo it's the morning sunnnn!"
Lame as fuck.

She is absolutely more entertaining, which is what we want from these characters. Kitty is and she's always been bland despite her cool powers.
One of my favorite Jubilee moments was when she was somehow captured and someone said they need to get her back asap because she's not officially part of the team so she doesn't have insurance and they all can get sued.

Kitty was a cancer that was kept around as the jewish waifu.
Jubilee was a great character with enjoyable appearances who didn't overstep her (comic panel) boundaries.

FOR STARTERS, SHE ISN'T JEWISH SHE'S ASIAN. ASIAN, YOU HEAR ME?

Was their a known hate thing between the two or just a cover/fanart?
Weird since I know kitty has more art, but guess poor jubilee was popular during the dark ages of fanart and availability of art and art materials. There were no affordable graphic tablets in the 80s and 90s and PS was newish and expensive asf, also no computers. So most jubilee porn died on some teenage or creepy guys floor/notebook covered in a mystery cream.

Don't forget her adopt baby.

Wouldn't say hate, but they didn't get along.

It's fanart, they never really interacted. Kitty was off in Excalibur when Jubilee was on the X-Men. Then Jubilee was in Gen X. Jubilee gets sent off to LA and eventually depowered in HoM when Whedon brings Kitty back to the main team.

Idk why this made me kek so hard, Idk if this was a joke about how kids/teens actually age in the acting world or just a genuine critique of comics itself but felt like a multi faceted joke. But you aren't wrong, they do kid/teen heroes incredibly dirty. They either get some of the worse abuse in history or end up dead or aged up and depressed or edgy fucks like jason todd.
It's really shocking to see how much Anon Babble hates kitty, I mean yes jubilee is more my fave but never realized how bad kitty was. But she was a lot more bratty I guess always portrayed as very young even for her age also quite flirtaious somehow she felt more like the spaz/preppy/firecracker than jubilee who was literally a walking firework.

Jubilee was pretty great guess we can say, jubilee was the kid we want to be and kitty was the kid more teens really are or the execs think teens like. A bit like Ben 10 bs execs
Yeah being the team dumpster will get the boys horny, I rarely was into the girl x older guy. Ironically always loved same age or close to same age ships. Idk more wholesome and school boy/girl crush stuff, girl x older guy is fine just was like nah. She wasn't that basic but yeah only real stand out slutty/design was her full mask one(more unique) and those cave/savage girl designs when she was in peril and her outfit was torn and she was running around barefoot like a cave girl

Kinky powers

I feel I've seen her powers drawn kinky quite often anon but not inherently kinky powers no
Honestly seeing how you guys talk about them you'd almost feel they'd be great rivals or great in a run where they make up for the others flaws. Or well since it 90% sounds like kitty maybe a run where kitty gets put in her place and jubilee kind of tells her off and kitty has to grow up

That is quite possibly the worst writing trope the activist one, even sadder with how many comics have referenced greta

Kitty said nigger to a black guy. Jubes became a vampire because she had nothing else.

This is like asking who the best robin is, there is one answer and it isn’t any of the ones that debuted in the last 60 years.

They seem fine here honestly? though man I forget that kitty used to look like a actual adult. She and jubilee look like young adults forever even in their 30s, because well design philosophy but here I barely recognized her.
They always just miss each other, but yeah can't have two teens on the team. Especially the plucky self insert/fish out of water teen character
Man is it weird this jubilee gives me infernal lust, like something about this just looks great. I'd definitely be that kids step dad

A good chunk of the problem with Kitty was how she was basically put on a pedestal by every writer with an 80s boner as if she was queen of the X-teens when you could pick almost anyone from any subsequent teen squad and they not only went through rougher hardships but were, on the whole, more engaging as characters. And it was especially galling when the later generations won't ever be recognized as full x-men but Kitty is a core member talking down to everyone about how being a mutant is like, totally cool.

Man is it weird this jubilee gives me infernal lust, like something about this just looks great. I'd definitely be that kids step dad

That that just sounds like a minor commitment to me he's already adopted by the mom just adopt him too and give him some brothers and sisters.

Kitty ruled the 80s

Jubilee ruled the 90s

It was a cross between Armor and Pixie in the 00s

Hope had the 2010s but solid case for X-23 as a solo character

The decade is almost half over. Who is the teen queen for 2020s X-Men?

The 90s big hair is just making her look so much older. Neither of them are in their 30s now, that's much too old.

True, indeed give him a gaggle also since she's a vamp good chance she's extra tight and will have that nubile body forever. So getting that spring chicken sex every night.

also wait so is shogo a mutie or vampire?
I thought they were pushing late 20s by now, also yeah big hair of the 80s and 90s was a weird time and maybe makes feel old as such a old hair style.

Yes she was a fun cute asian and her powers were cooler.

Marvel's been sticking to a 13 year timeline for a while now. The original X-Men are in their early 30s, late 20s, they have to be younger.

Yeah why I was shocked as honestly feels like kitty is in everything compared to the others even though she came out the longest ago I believe. Back in like the 80s or so, and really felt like jubilee had more fans for a while but then they put kitty in the movies and in the new shows everytime. When was jubilee's last media appearance before the reboot?

Heh idk why when you said like totally cool I heard her with a valley girl accent. Really need a good interaction where jubilee calls her out on being basically a airhead who just gets lucky. Also think the death nail in a lot of my kitty love was the new ninja bs and her being needlessly edgy and merciless
Makes sense, most fans don't want to see peter as a 40 something broken man. Though heard that new run with like late 30s peter is doing pretty well

Jubilee was 16 in Gen X. So was Synch, Monet, Chamber, etc.
Kitty grew up in Excalibur. Her age made no sense in that book, one day she's a literal child and the next she's getting LIMEY'D by Pete Wisdom.

Weird indeed give her the ole jon kent, went into a time anomaly and she's fine

This is after Illyana died. Jubs here wasn't in her best mood.

Yeah within five years Ellis decided that Kitty had aged up from 15 to 18 because he absolutely had to have her.

Wasn't she made principal of the school passing over xmen with more seniority? It was funny seeing Gambit having to take orders from her just because she was a member before he was despite he's like 10 years older and with more experience.

Horse Girl in Uncanny

Age of consent in Britain was 16

I think she was made Headmistress the first time because she was Wolverine's second in command after Schism

But then she quit as soon as Storm showed up and dumped the entire school so she could follow the O5 around

And then she dumped the O5 and went to space to get married. But then broke up that engagement
And she was off world for most of the IvX shit so they just made her headmistress again because her hands were clean

Marvel is trying to make it Kamala Khan

Hope disappeared for the most part after AvX
She became important again in Krakoa but now she's super dead/alive in everything

So I'd say she was the it girl for the early 2010s and early 2020s with a big gap in between

I think Idie deserves some acknowledgement as one of the few kids to have had fairly consistent appearances since her intro

is shogo a mutie or vampire?

Neither. He is a dragon now