Can real Western action cartoons ever return?

It's easy to blame the decline of Western action shows on "woke", but the reality is more complex. After the success of Avatar, studios rushed to find projects that could replicate its financial success, but all of these attempts failed. Meanwhile, the majority of the young male demographic shifted entirely to manga and anime. The final blow came when the few cartoons that were financially successful tended to be either casual slice-of-life stories or had "queer" themes. the latter were often praised by journalists and legitimate award bodies which seemed good to studios, all of these factors combined have contributed to the current decline of Western animated action cartoons.

Slapping the anime at the end of a title isnt going to fix anything.

Western animation's fucked. Oh well. But these IPs shouldn't go to waste because of that. They can still be put to good use.

It can, unironically, it just need competent people who actually want to focus on action and not crying

Don't forget that those shows that were trying to replicate the success of Avatar all came out right when the fucking global financial crisis hit and studios were suddenly afraid to spend money on anything that big.

he final blow came when the few cartoons that were financially successful tended to be either casual slice-of-life stories or had "queer" themes.

Those weren't financially successful. There's a reason why their releases eventually became so inconsistent or they'd get cancelled after 2 seasons.

IPs dying is a good thing, not everything needs to go on forever.

anime can hit diminishing returns

Which is why manga's the safer bet to start with. Gotta gauge interest first before spending the big money like that.

Ben ten sucked, avatar was just westoid anime, there have been superhero shows since batman, jack is pretty special though.

They can still be put to good use.

No.
If an IP can't maintain the popularity required to keep it running, then just let it die.
Besides, 99% of these anime based on western properties fail since the audience overlap just isn't there. The only one I can think of in recent years that wasn't a *complete* failure was Cyberpunk Edgerunners, and that was almost an entirely OC main cast that mainly just used the setting as opposed to any of the associated characters.

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post the video faggot

does Iyanu count?

Girl protag so no.

Nope.

trailer:
youtube.com/watch?v=ekBhfbtwaYc

I blame the soccer moms, clueless executives indoctrinated thumpers, etc
Just about every "PC" group under the sun

Probably but a lot of corporations will need to shut down

If an IP can't maintain the popularity required to keep it running, then just let it die.

Can't fault the IP for western animation going to shit. Batman still sells and Ben 10 has potential in non-western animated content. Throwing them away would be stupid. Go where the money's at and adapt.

It's returned already.
I mean there's multiple family friendly Superhero shows either in the works or already airing, Avatar is getting a third show, and 'western' anime already exists and its only a matter of time before there is made a sub section for children.

I mean there's multiple family friendly Superhero shows either in the works or already airing

Such as?

I can only identify with a straight white male protagonist.

But the question then becomes if Batman and Ben 10 can compete in the anime landscape.
And the answer to that question is no, because the audience for each is looking for different things.
The kind of boy who's into your typical shonen anime would probably find Ben 10 way too kiddie for their tastes, and there have already been multiple Batman anime and they've all been aimed at grown ass men who probably grew up watching Toonami.

Let's blow our budget on celebrity VAs

There's the problem

The next Sonic Hedgehog cartoon

wasn't Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles a recent action cartoon?

D-did they fuse Sticks and Amy into a single character?
Also interesting to see rouge pushed up to the front of promotional material.

Meanwhile, the majority of the young male demographic shifted entirely to manga and anime

You don't even bring up why young male demographics shifted to manga and anime. The west had them up to the mid 2010s
It's because CN/Disney intentionally killed off all boy cartoons and action shows by placing them in graveyard slots before stop making them all together, and invested entirely in live action sitcoms (for Disney) and feminine-geared shows like My Little Pony, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls and Adventure Time since after Occupy Wall Street this was the "new demographic".
So it was an internal self-destruction pushing instead for a demographic that doesn't exist

Kys faggot

But the question then becomes if Batman and Ben 10 can compete in the anime landscape.

Yeah. Batman sells great worldwide. And Ben 10 has enough appeal to do well worldwide as well.

The kind of boy who's into your typical shonen anime would probably find Ben 10 way too kiddie for their tastes

Then up the ante. Make it TV-PG/TV-14. Easy.

and there have already been multiple Batman anime

We've had 3. All were DTV.

None of these are any good .

I liked the boondocks so no, you are wrong

Shut the fuck up faggot

There's "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" "My Adventures With Superman" and it's upcomming spin off show about Green Lantern with a similar naming scheme.
There's a new show about Starfire in the works too.

I mean that's four upcomming or already airing action cartoons, no?

That’s because you are a retard

the poster is of a previous sonic cartoon, but the next sonic cartoon will most likely be an action one.

that amy is an alternate version of amy since this is sonic multiverse cartoon.

There's "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" "My Adventures With Superman"

None of those are for boys.

There's a new show about Starfire in the works too.

Bro, come on.

I mean that's four upcomming or already airing action cartoons, no?

For boys, bro. Action toons for boys.

the OP didn't say anything about boys, just "real Western action cartoons"

Wow, man, calling blacks and LGBTQ+ people retards is pretty bad, yikes.

Batman sells great worldwide.

Does he?
Batman movies sure, but does anyone care about the cartoons outside of the west?

Then up the ante. Make it TV-PG/TV-14. Easy.

I don't think that would work, TV-14 isn't the rating it used to be, nowadays when they air shonen anime on TV in America it often gets a TV-MA rating.

All were DTV.

Nowadays they would be direct to streaming, kids don't really watch cable like they used to.
Honestly, I think this is the main issue, action shows (and cartoons in general) lived and died on cable, and now that cable is closer to dying than living, so are cartoons.

Jack and Ben didn't have celeb VAs, and Avatar only had George Takei for like one episode.

based zoomzoom

Batman movies sure, but does anyone care about the cartoons outside of the west?

MERCH, bro.

nowadays when they air shonen anime on TV in America it often gets a TV-MA rating.

Naruto and One Piece still get TV-14. Shit like Deadman Wonderland and Prison School get TV-MA.

kids don't really watch cable like they used to.

Yeah, I know.

Girls aren't interested in this shit. THey don't like action like boys do. And girl protags turn most boys away because they think it's for girls.

Does Arcane count?

No wonder they're a bunch of fags these days

was Netflix Carmen Sandiego an action cartoon?

girls love action shit. that's why miraculous ladybug has 6 seasons and the precure anime in japan is over 20 years old

THey don't like action like boys do.

True, they actually just become fujos and inflate character popularities instead

Indie won't save it either, there's only one studio(FlashGitz) I can think of that claims it's making an action cartoon series for boys(they aren't, it's for weird adult men). But Tom and Dan essentially fucked their own efforts by not accepting an actual network deal like Vivziepop did, Regardless of what you may think about her, that was a rational financial decision. Remaining on YouTube is a futile endeavor for any attempts at an action series.

Outside of the mainstream industry possibly. The key is finding the talent that actually understands the genre. And even that can tricky because the social media algorithm is bloated with corny plagiarists.

OP here, real Western action cartoons are usually written with males in mind foremost. Female fans can be considered, but they should be an afterthought. Female fans really only care about attractive characters and shipping. There's nothing wrong with that; that's just how some female fans are, but they don't care as much about the action.
See point above

miraculous ladybug is a romance anon

Can you ever shut the fuck up?

Female fans really only care about attractive characters and shipping

Which is Miraculous' bread and butter.

we had Invincible Fight Girl

And they aired it at midnight because CN is retarded.

What a dumb idea for a show. Boys aren't gonna go for this.

Black girl

I have never watched Ben 10, but the rest of the shows in the image have darker tone than your usual cartoons (even if without going too dark) and pretty memorable villains.
I think that's a large part of what is missing. I mean most of the shit posted ITT is either comedic, doesn't have cool and memorable villains or a combination of both.
You have what of this type nowadays, Invincible? It's fucking shit, but it's the closest you will get.

when will the west make a precure ripoff?
youtube.com/watch?v=WRMLjRGaF9Q

when will the west make a precure ripoff?

By West, you mean the US right? Because other countries have done their own magical girl thing.

Extreme Ghostbusters

Roughnecks

Boondocks

Based.

who's "we"?

(you)

We unironically need a another John K in the industry

but dude, what about uh Arcane, Castlevania and invincible. We're in a golden age right now

Arcane, Castlevania

Trash

This irony poisoned hipster bullshit is not what people want when they talk about action series.
-Animation was weak
-Choreography was amateur at best boring derivative slop at worst
-Shit tier character designs
The opponent characters in a fighting series have to be badasses. This has been known since classic westerns and kung fu movies.

He was a porn-addicted faggot, he was a symptom of the current animation industry (albeit with more talent).

anime is liked because its bold
writers are less afraid to do things and characters are actually allowed to be characters, and girls are allowed to be hot. choices feel more like the writer's choice, and not a team of writers then giving to a consultants, and then a team of censors

the corporate structure of western cartoons could never allow that

Besides Avatar, pretty much every Amerian action cartoon had bland or boring action choreography, there's no reason to watch them if you want action unless you're really attached to capeshit

the Anon Babble board is the other way ma'am

also a team of marketers, and executives

Avatar "fights" are boring and awful.
Magic fights are not real fights and they're everything I hate about fantastical settings.
Give me this over any gay fireball dance exchange.
youtube.com/watch?v=3BthsiGFe60
Yes, I don't care if Psycho Pass is shit, the fight scenes are cool.

Avatar is literally supposed to look like japanese anime

Godzilla the series

Kino

Indeed. Japan got it all figured out.
While USA still fumbles in the dark.

Me and you, Michael.
Me and you.

I wouldn't say Gravity Falls is feminine focused desu

pretty much every Amerian action cartoon had bland or boring action choreography,

It's very floaty and you never see the punch or kick connect due to censorship.

through God all things are possible

They honestly thinking, watching helluvaboss critiquing why the show sucks (which it is), YouTube drama, female furry asmrs (at night), listing video game OSTs, watching and playing video games (especially roguelite like enter the gungeon) having fun watching convicted pedos exposed but got pissed off that they get told to seek help instead of predator hunters bullying them and sent them death threats while sucking turkey toms or low tier gods dick, all day everyday

Thinking that is better than action cartoons (cont)

ESL momento

No you gotta watch a cartoon made by a millennial woman who has never felt the touch of a man so they gotta project their miserable lives on to cartoon enjoyers.

muh anime

Anime is shit and every year I end up realizing that there's nothing of value to watch.
I have however started watching Kamen Rider and Sentai and enjoying it a lot.

I said enter the gungeon, not enter the dungeon faggot, how is that ESL?

I don’t speak British you fucking bong

Fuck off baby pedo faggot! Go jack off to digimon trainer lolis and stay in your lane!

I've been getting into Ultraman and have been enjoying it a lot. I just like giant monsters getting their asses beat, shits badass.

All of them have a definitive ending and continuation via comics, sequels, and games. You are one needy fucker

what is it about the funko pop character design aesthetic that attracts the crazies

I just like giant monsters getting their asses beat, shits badass.

Good, you're normal.

I can tell you're a Hispanic from Chile based on the way you spell you're not fooling anyone Penofag.

Vera would’ve snap binkys neck just like what she almost did to nurf

You think spics played enter the gungeon just like brawlstars commonly faggot?

90% of boys think they're girls now.

More like 10 percent are delusional about the other 90 percent. Seriously I've started seeing mfs no longer hold the doors open for most women anymore due to how toxic they've become.

Also why do you guys force this shit on others? Do it in your bedroom and not outside.

people clown on Anon Babble a lot but Anon Babble has always struck me as the most 70IQ board desu

"Western" Animation.

All animated overseas.

Kek. No.
Stop being a "showrunner" "story artist" or "idea haver". Have Merch to sell.

Have Merch to sell.

THIS. It's how this shit actually makes money.

You get all kinds of flavors of people here, retarded Hispanics, Autists who post waifus (based), and millennial and Zoomer women pushing their misery on others because they couldn't get laid. AND MANY MORE!

mfs no longer hold the doors open for most women anymore

Don't you know that's sexist. Roasties and women can get fucking curb-stomped and they can hold their own fucking doors open, fuck um, men aren't here to prop up whores like they are delicate angels.

meanwhile, board rapidly losing it's traffic

also it sounds like those new meds don't actually work

which is either manufactured or have parts manufactured overseas

Is this thread just pretending invincible doesnt exist? And as much as i hate the dmc cartoon. It is an action cartoon.

What's funny is that women shit on men until they need something like money. Like bitch.

I feel sorry for the bears.

also it sounds like those new meds don't actually work

Nah, it's working. I just don't like selfish self centered women. They're the reason the world was like it was for the last decade. Who's demoralized now HA!!!

Anon is angry that he doesn't have a daughter as free fuckmeat

Kekaroo!

Bro, what the fuck?

As a girl I hate that I agree with you

What's funny is that women shit on men until they need something like money.

Yeah, seen it enough with gfs and female family members who are self-cetnered egotists, like most women. Fucking humiliation ritual sadists snake whores that they are.

Tits or GTFO, unless you’re Olivia the gator

Exactly.
Or product that you can buy in discount bulk, rebrand and resell to stupid impressionable kids with parents who have disposable income to buy your cheap plastic tat.
Battle Convoy was my father figure in the 80s.

i mean i kinda get it, the vast majority of people here would absolutely be child abusers if they had any

I just want a dommy mommy because I have mother issues.

The tournaments kinda show how Anon Babble is way more low IQ

Now Anon not all women are like this, it's just the ones online that are given a voice.

Don't forget what happened in Finland Anon. All the women in that country went on strike and companies that day were more efficient and got zero complaints that day. One CEO even said "It was actually nice to get shit done".

Remember don't fall for their empty threats.

Shut the fuck up retard

*Iceland.
Not Finland. Scandinavia.

desu I think a lot of dudes here are lonely and feel cheated out of not starting a family but more in the sense that "misery loves company" and not because they actually like anyone in a genuine kind of way

Seethe, avatard.

That doesn't count

Sounds like my mom and sister.

Kys faggot

Anon if you've seen how women act today, you'd wanna stay single too. It's just too risky right now.

Keep seething and coping.

You are coping

n-no u

tranny response

reading comp

This goes against ops narrative so it doesnt exist sry

Nah, but Anon Babble also has some part in that blame

I dunno, I don't think that defeats OP's point since it's not like boys watched that show, it was mostly watched by the middle-aged men who still watch Toonami.

Nice projection

boys watching the show makes it a "real" action cartoon

So the west could make a action cartoon but it'll never count unless it hits a young boy demographic. Therefore because boys are watching anime the west can't actually make a action cartoon?

I think when OP says "return" he means "be watched by the target audience."
The issue is, kids are never going to return to cable because their parents ain't paying for expensive-ass cable for a bunch of shit they're never going to watch, so those kids will never come back.
Kids tend to be interested in what their older role models are interested in or what their friends are interested in, which is why they're currently all flocking to that AI-generated Minecraft movie.
The kind of adult men who are interested in these cartoons don't tend to have kids or be role models for kids, so kids aren't interested in the cartoons they watch.
TL;DR: Cartoons are dying not because they lost the boy audience, but because they lost the teen audience, which the child audience idolizes.

I've said it before but Anon Babble is easily the #1 most made fun of board I've seen in terms of creating literally fucking nothing besides a middle schooler with beach ball-sized tits, it's weird how this board consistently attracts the most creatively-bankrupt people
You can't even use this place as way to scope out target audiences either, because retards here struggle to convey even basic ideas of shit they truly like about what they watch (like no real deeper substance besides "moving images bright lights flashing colors jingling keys wooooo") and they want literally everything ever for free

They flock to Anon Babble when they realize /hyw/ is just crabs and drama-whores. Or just go elsewhere entirely.

It's hard to overstate how much women and girls love romance. There's an entire fandom for the movie Wish, based solely around a romance between the female main character and a scrapped character, as well as Magnifico and his queen's romance.

Well this shitty show that no one liked that failed to do any of the things people like about action series came out in the worst timeslot CHECKMATE CHUD.

So everybody's just gonna ignore an actual point worth discussing in favor of seething about women and "b-but anime"

We just need a cool series about the original Gormiti

it's weird how this board consistently attracts the most creatively-bankrupt people

Because most autists lack the imagination to create.

Adventure Time wasn't "femmine-geared" you retard

Anime is shit and every year I end up realizing that there's nothing of value to watch.

Then you are an absolute retard. Even for just cool action there is plenty of fun anime. Sentai and KR themselves were inspired by 60s manga. I like both toku and anime since they are both pretty fun.

Boys like darker stuff. Lighthearted kiddy shit doesn't appeal to them because they think it's lame and for babies. They want something cool and badass. And a darker tone usually has what they're looking for.

Even for just cool action there is plenty of fun anime.

LOOOOOL
LMAO
You're the retard here.

Not at first, but it eventually did become feminine-geared to that Steven Universe audience.

I wonder how long it would take for somebody to realize that and make something like Spawn TAS 2.0

Mirrored against westoid animation, yeah, anime usually has it better and so too manga.

kids watched dr stone not this trannyshit

It's hard to overstate how much women and girls love romance. There's an entire fandom for the movie Wish, based solely around a romance between the female main character and a scrapped character, as well as Magnifico and his queen's romance.
youtube.com/watch?v=mrkiaki-Ugc

And this is why they like Batman over Superman.

but what about western animation

You are a worthless fucking retard.
I don't give a shit, idiot. They're both trash.

Yes there is you fucking faggot. I don't know how someone can like toku and not also appreciate fun mecha like Mazinger.

Goals To "demonstrate the indispensable work of women for Iceland's economy and society" and "protest wage discrepancy and unfair employment practices

Ninety percent of Iceland's female population participated in the strike.[1] Iceland's parliament passed a law guaranteeing equal rights to women and men the following year.[1]

seemed like the strike worked

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Icelandic_women's_strike

Stop talking shit you retard

Le both suck heh heh heh

Retard

Mazinger

Oh woooow, a series from the 70s when it's modern anime is talked about you fucking mongoloid.
Grendizer is better anyway. Not the new one because it's absolute trash and I regret wasting my time on it expecting anything good from modern garbage.
Seethe.

so too manga.

The action's usually better, that's for sure.

make something like Spawn TAS 2.0

It'll definitely be a hit with boys and teens, along with adults.

Hi Sanjeet

It's less an autist thing and more a low-functioning autist thing, which Anon Babble is full of.
A vidya dev autist might be an autist, but they might also be an intelligent high-functioning autist who's good at coding or design, so they can take the time to make something.
An anime autist might be an autist, but if they're into more than just mainstream shit and care about the visual quality/subs of what they watch, they'll probably at least take the time to torrent and download video players and mess around with codecs and settings to make what they watch look good.
Basically, Anon Babble autists generally *were* tech-literate for a long time, but that hasn't been the case with the cartoon side of Anon Babble basically ever, most of the people on this board can't even figure out something as simple as fucking torrenting, they all need to be spoonfed MEGA links even for shows that are widely available on your public tracker of choice, even for basic shit like Rick and Morty or Invincible.
When you're so lazy/stupid that you can't even be bothered to search for a fucking torrent, then it's understandable that you won't take the time to create anything of value.

Kys faggot

Oh woooow, a series from the 70s when it's modern anime is talked about you fucking mongoloid.

You've said that anime as a whole is shit you absolute retard. Modern shit is shit in every medium, including toku.

Stay out of this, retard. Your opinion is not asked when you make your own shit threads and it's certainly not asked here.
Everything related to Darkseid in Superman TAS was darker than the entirety of BTAS btw.

had I known one human death would pain you so, I would've killed more. And kill more I shall.

Seemd like the strike worked

Proceeds to import the entirety of the 3rd world instead as a workforce

Kek, fuck um all, and fuck feminism.

more seethe

What part of "every year I end up realizing that there's nothing of value to watch" do you interpret as talking about anything but modern shit?

he man

I'd argue it's a difference of occupation
The creatives are actually working in animation but won't post their work here and spend all day drawing anyway (this board has probably the highest amount of actual industry users posting on it). Many others have actual jobs in between and aren't going to have the downtime to do big projects. The remaining are the low-functioning autists who could never do anything
I've noticed how many more actual NEETs Anon Babble and Anon Babble has. As in the type who have no other things they are doing so they can spend their time making "OC" because they have nothing better to do and no real way to get an actual occupation

The first 3 words you absolute brainless moron. Anime has a lot of fucking great series. Not that many in the last 5 or so years(with a few exception of course) but still a huge catalog to explore.

Seethe

The East fucking mogs the West currently in animation and non-animated visual storytelling. In no short part to the West being lazy woke faggots who outsource their work back to the East for production, fucking nepo baby artists, gatekeeping, can't draw worth a shit, and DEI hires up the ass for the past 20 years because diversity is a curse, not a blessing.

The first 3 words

Then maybe read the entire sentence you subhuman brain cancer monkey
Again, subhuman. I don't give a fuck about your retarded "east vs west" slapfight, they're both shit CURRENTLY (for the idiot above specifically since he's too autistic to infer things) godawful garbage for idiots and I wish all their fans committed mass suicide and left internet a marginally more intelligent place.

Nah, Anon Babble has some industry people, but most of this board is definitely not working in the industry in any capacity, and this board likely has the same proportion of NEETs that Anon Babble or Anon Babble have.
People here rarely even make any OC, even basic shit like a screenshot edit, most of the time the only edits like that that you see are the ones in the edit thread, and the vast majority of them are just giving the female characters massive tits.
This board is the way it is because it is full of tech-illiterate low-functioning autists and teenagers, at least moreso than most other boards, which is insane since I'm including Anon Babble in that, and that board is FULL of retarded teenagers.

(this board has probably the highest amount of actual industry users posting on it).

to be honest it sure doesn't feel like it, it feels like the majority of this board really doesn't even understand how cartoons (or comics) are even made from a production angle

the amount of anons i see on this board rage against animators as if the animators are responsible for everything in a cartoon they don't like is nuts

Solo Leveling's cool.

Then maybe read the entire sentence

So you admit anime in general is good and cartoons have something to learn especially from anime made before 2020? Good to learn you autistic monkey.

Nah, it's well known how much of the industry uses this board, it has far more leaks then Anon Babble or Anon Babble ever had. It's not unusual to see fully finished episodes/tv films leaked here. This would never happen on Anon Babble or Anon Babble, it's just made up Nintendo Direct larps
Most don't post their specific art here because they don't want to be cancelled. But many do use this board, which gives you the impression of low-functioning autists being the core.

Anime is shit

Fuck off with your gay FOTM garbage for

So you admit anime in general is good

Old yes, you dumb fuck. Same goes for old cartoons despite your retarded low IQ tribalistic seething. Now shove your "east vs west" retardation up your rectum until you develop colon cancer.

Fuck off with your gay FOTM garbage for

Chill out, sperg.

Same goes for old cartoons despite your retarded low IQ tribalistic seething

Not really cartoons between 2010-2020. You have a few great action cartoons before that, I'll admit that but nothing with as good writing as the best of anime unfortunately.

I don't give a fuck about your retarded "east vs west" slapfight, they're both shit CURRENTLY

East vs West

Gee, how would one major cultural media producer fair against the other as a means of determining value?
So what does the West have at all versus anime? What, beanmouth and trannies? Disney remake live action? Also, ironic that the West wants to fucking go full 1984 and completely rewrite Eastern animation dialogue and stories because it's not diverse or inclusive enough, kek. Fuck the entirety of the cucked West.

it has far more leaks then Anon Babble or Anon Babble ever had

People coming here to leak shit != people actually browsing to discuss.
Those people aren't Anon Babble regulars, again, the regulars on Anon Babble are low-functioning autists.

Sorry that your trash is worthless and so are you. Now commit suicide for my entertainment.

Not really cartoons between 2010-2020.

Same goes for anime, retard.

but nothing with as good writing as the best of anime

Maybe because "the best of anime" is certainly not actionshit.

more retarded brain damage babble from a retarded weeb with a dash of politishit

Just die, nobody's gonna mourn you anyway.

And now they're getting replaced by Indians, their own policies are used against them.
Also based for giving equal rights, didn't know Iceland was that backwards still.

Anime is shit

Doesn't have an automatic knowledge of how to use articles (listening video game OSTs)

Doesn't capitalize proper nouns (Enter the Gungeon)

Forgets commas and just writes one giant run-on sentence

"But how am i de esl tho???"

Also, being an iToddler doesn't help your case.

Anime is trash

Anon is mad they're entering in standby mode because they have no more arguments

Same goes for anime, retard.

Not really, the 2010s had plenty of good anime.

Maybe because "the best of anime" is certainly not actionshit.

Cartoons even outside of actionshit don't have writing on par with the best of anime. Calm down, retard.

Also based for giving equal rights

Not based. The women voted in the shit that brought those guys there.

Anime is trash because weebs are annoying

Modern anime is shit, yes. Has been unwatchable sludge since the 90s ended.
What was the last great one? Maybe Texhnolyze and Ergo Proxy but that's really it.

he 2010s had plenty of good anime.

HAHAHAHAHA THIS IDIOT ACTUALLY BELIEVES THAT, LMAO

but what about

Take your own advice, you retarded faggot.

retarded weeb with a dash of politishit

Kek, not a weeb, and woke has definitely negatively influenced Western media overall, especially animation and visual storytelling. To push and be overtly political over storytelling and quality. The West had it's highlights and fumbled the bag, you giant contrarian retard and the reason the East has faired better is because they have some level of idea of quality versus political signalling at the expense of the art. And the only time political signalling worked was with the X-Men, because they actually wove it into the story instead of token checklist characters that don't belong.

As long as it's actual equal rights and not "women get more" then I don't care. But it's Europe so idk, that whole continent minus Eastern Europe is backwards as shit.

You sound biased because you're a weeabo.

Again, retard. Nobody cares about political brain damage. I'm not gonna read your worthless shit, just wish you and your family cancer. Now you can stop typing your low IQ trash and lowering the thread's IQ even more (somehow).

Weird how you aren't calling Anon a liar. Kinda makes ya think. You probably agree 100 percent but are too scared to actually admit it.

Anime is better because it isn't political

HAHAHAHAHA THIS IDIOT ACTUALLY BELIEVES THAT, LMAO

Yes. Ping pong alone was pretty kino.

>but what about

I accept your concession since you know it's true.

Texhnolyze

Based, better than every western cartoon ever made.

Shut the fuck up weebfag

What was the last great one?

What was the last great western cartoon? The west hasn't made good cartoons since the shorts era that ended in the 60s. Sad.

tripfag

retardation

I hope you get doxxed and killed in your house :D
Fuck off with your bot-tier responses and die. I made it abundantly clear you're a retarded subhuman and don't take you seriously.

kino

Thanks for confirming that you're a literal braindead subhuman who should die of cancer. Please hurry up with that. Also, no. It was garbage like all of 2010 anime.

Based

Nobody cares about your approval. I just want you to die.

This is just a gay version of boxing.

East vs. West cancer should really be bannable, but we have no functioning mods.

What the fuck happened to this thread

this board rage against animators as if the animators are responsible for everything in a cartoon

These "animators" make the same crap on their socials as the lame ass faggy series they work on.

A bunch of retard nerds started bitching.

And even that is hundreds of times better than "do a retarded dance, throw an energy beam" """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""fights""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Just our resident low-functioning autists having a slapfight.
Just another day on Anon Babble.

Still hasn't called Anon a liar.

Never change kasekopfe :)

I miss him

Kys faggoT

literally fuming with anger

literally no argument for why he considers ping pong bad

agrees with me that Texhnolyze is better than all cartoons

Yep, I've won lol.

People who post here don't actually post here because... they just don't ok???

Anything to make you think you're smart and not a low-functioning autist

noooo acknowledge my retarded culture war cancer

How about you post home address? Would unironically love to visit you. :D

Got too silly.
Also it's a thread about the animation industry, you're gonna get people flinging shit around.

Anon Babble is way more retarded, just look at how they vote in King.

When will cartoons just stop start being anime and having like harem and isekai shit.

Fuck off with your gay FOTM garbage for

Bro, most people just wanna chill and watch something solid and entertaining. Solo Leveling does exactly that, and that's why it's a hit.

me scary IRL

LMAO, you are a literal child. Keep crying like the bitch you are.

Better than bot or shills replies.

isekai shit

Alice in Wonderland

You won't acknowledge it because it's the truth. But it's your choice to pick which one makes your comfort bubble stay in place. Truth is real Anon.

Admiring it is a slow process Anon.

Not really.
These autist slapfights are basically on par with bot posts.

start being anime and having like harem

What modern cartoons even have harems?

Stop being a faggot

Fuck off retard

*Admitting it.
Autocorrect can eat shit.

Because most autists lack the imagination to create.

That can't be right. What about weaponized autism or autistic lolcows creating the massive projects normal people wouldn't even dream of doing cause?

anger

Retards who use the word "kino" should get dismembered. Your own fault for being a retarded subhuman

noooo my shitty meme anime is totally good

Lmao.

>agrees with me that Texhnolyze is better than all cartoons

No, I don't
It's a "hit" because anime fans are tasteless idiots and should be bullied on sight.
Kek, I wish bullying would come back in style if only to watch you fags commit mass suicides. That'd be glorious.
Then there's no reason for you to be afraid to post your address, kek. Oh wait, you're gonna pussy out.
Home. Address. Now.

The loud house

on par with bot posts.

The flames of autistic rage filled passion will always burn brightest and most beautifully.

Those autists are few and far between, most autists don't move beyond making really awful fanfics or spamming websites like Anon Babble about how much they like a specific property/character.

It's a "hit" because anime fans are tasteless idiots

Every fucking nerd says this shit whenever the pretentious bullshit they like gets passed over. Like I said, most people just wanna chill and watching something fun for a bit. Not fall asleep or get depressed.

1776 Lameass lane Faggotsville Cuntsy on the corner of Go fuck yourself Blvd.

most people

AKA idiots and retarded cattle.
Nobody cares what they thing. That's why nobody cares when mass shootings happen, because people are retarded anyway so no big loss there.

actually pussied out

I'm shocked! SHOCKED!

Grendizer is better

Maybe if you’re a repressed fujo with a desperate need to ship men.

The west needs to start copyinh anime to live
We need a cartoon that is highly violent
Has tons of fanservice
At the same time having a decent and simple narrative with a lot of heart
Also it has to be extremely well animated to farm youtube clips/amvs
That means hand drawn 2d animation only
If the west cant make a dozen of the same kinda cartoon its fuckin over

Keep seething faggot

has a meltdown over 1 word

You can't make this shit up.

no argument again

Kek, you haven't seen Ping Pong since it's too smart for you.

No, I don't

Then a cartoon series on par with it.

Extremely weird projection, but okay.
Nobody who isn't a porn addicted retard thinks about sex watching action shows though.
Porn addicts should all die, honestly.
Sorry your FOTM is trash and will be forgotten soon, kek.

Bro, take a break from the internet for a bit. It'll do you some good.

My autistic ass watching another retard crashout over the internet.

It's the truth. The west just hasn't made any cartoons since then.

Tarrifs will change that, Japan has already caved so we might be outsourcing there for a bit. Hopefully TMS is available for work.

Edgy melodrama anime where everyone suffers and dies without accomplishing anything is better than every cartoon

I want Evafags to fuck off.

Stop talking shit troon

Then there's no reason for you to be afraid to post your address, kek. Oh wait, you're gonna pussy out.

Post your address so I can come and teach you a lesson. Your father raping you has really messed up your brain.

Flying from Europe to some Autists house isn't gonna help shit except you being put on a list.

It's a fun pastime.

The west needs to realize that anime is just outright better in every way to every cartoon that existed. Anime alone is better than every single cartoon both in narrative and animation quality. And its not even close.

Extremely weird projection

He actually believes Grendizer isn’t carried entirely by autistic fujos

Shut the fuck up faggot

used a word only actual low IQ morons use

gets called out for it

"m-m-meltdown"

Kek

anime

smart

LOOOOOOOOOL
There's nothing about animation of any kind that's "smart". You thinking otherwise shows that you're an actual worthless retard.
Break your bones and die in a ditch.
The only "lesson" you could teach is being a pussy. And no, "b-but what if I ask the same" coward crap doesn't work
Address now or fuck off.

Main character has long hair.

It's from the 70s the era a lot of Fujos like for some reason, probably the colors.

Yeah you gals can keep it.

I don't give a shit. Again, all porn addicts should be dismembered and turned into dog food.

Anon when he finds out how he was born (his parents had SEX):

still being so assblasted over 1 word

Kek

There's nothing about animation of any kind that's "smart".

Then what do you like about Texhnolyze? What don't you like about Ping Pong? How come you have not yet named a cartoon on par with Tehxnolyze?

The west needs to start copyinh anime to live

No, they need to lean into their own style and variations which is partially one of their strengths, but home grown animators suck at their jobs and is expensive and outsourced Eastern animators can only draw anime well. Which hints at a deep decline in the fine arts overall and skills of Western animators.

We need a cartoon that is highly violent

Invincible?

Also it has to be extremely well animated to farm youtube clips/amvs

It should be well made in-spite of that.

That means hand drawn 2d animation only

Good luck, there is a deeper story to this, but one of them being people can't draw worth a shit and it takes a really fucking long time to 2D animate rather than 3D rigging and just puppeting the whole rig to do what you need it to do. I love 2D, but it's time consuming, unless AI can help, and fill in the inbetween animation cells and you just need the Key animation cells and some intermittent inbetweens to tell the AI what you generally want.

If the west cant make a dozen of the same kinda cartoon its fuckin over

Beanmouth

And no, "b-but what if I ask the same" coward crap doesn't work

So you are afraid? K, call me when you have grown some balls.

Imagine what kind of subhuman do you have to be when a tripfaggot is on your side, kek.

NOOOO LET ME USE Anon Babble CANCER IN PEACE

Nah, you will be called out for it like a loser.

Then what do you like about Texhnolyze?

You can like cyberpunk shit aesthetics without considering it smart (in fact, it never is. It's always a retarded adolescent fantasy for teenagers).

what's better

It's all slop, I don't distinguish which slop is better.

doubles down on NO U

Still not seeing your address, coward

How about this?

Texhnolyze.

It's some gothy looking show from 03.

Is the art as good as the promos or is it bait?

I don't distinguish which slop is better.

Then give us some recommendations you like, you gotta have something you don't hate.

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Every single one of these posts is from the same guy

Holy mother of meltdowns

We need a cartoon that is highly violent

Okay, why?
Nobody who isn't a soccer mom or any other kind of woman is impressed by over the top edge.
Horror doesn't work in animation but works in live-action because live-action is more "real" for obvious reasons. Same thing applies to gore because gore is the extension of horror. Invincible just feels juvenile with all the cartoonish blood spraying, like it's supposed to shock anybody.
Here's a mental experiment watch any violent horror movie (preferably with practical effects) after a random episode of Invincible and feel the world of difference.

I'm sorry, but this isn't reddit.
(You)s are not upvotes, but you can always go back if you don't feel comfortable here.

oldfag larp

Lmao, you couldn't get any more pathetic, retard.

You can like cyberpunk shit aesthetics without considering it smart (in fact, it never is. It's always a retarded adolescent fantasy for teenagers).

Then explain what exactly did you like about Texhnolyze's aesthetic and core theme? How does it compare with other cyberpunk aesthetic from other anime/cartoons?

It's all slop, I don't distinguish which slop is better.

You've just said a few posts ago that cartoons are good and now they are slop? Kek, you really are retarded.

p-please saaaar give me your address saaarr

Come on dude. You are such a pussy ass bitch.

A single word has basically brainfucked him.

dragon ball won

hurr durr anybody who

noooo being here before 2015 is le larping as an oldfag

Now this is genuinely pathetic, but that's expected from a faggot like you.
I wish your cancerous buzzword resulted in permanent ban. This site would've been more intelligent.
Not gonna discuss anything with you because you don't deserve any effort, just gonna wish you cancer instead.

pussied out

y-y-you're indian

AS EXPECTED

Because it's cool

No after Super and Daima

Just tell us what shows we should watch, or just keep crashing out. Idc either way.

...the autism competition

We briefly had an action cartoon a couple of years ago.

If you're a preschooler and that's your first exposure to fictional violence, sure. Go watch gore webms of gore Anon Babble, that's infinitely more satisfying than anything cartoons/anime can offer.

… the jobbing to Supernan 3 times in a row contest.

Ese es un loco.

Because all weebs care about is how violent something is

There's a difference between having sex and watching it.

No story and characters also matters.
I can get behind something like Ouran Host Club and also still like violent stuff, it's good to rotate genres.

first exposure to fictional violence

Don Bluth's work

Most guys do, yes.

Go curate yourself

All western shows/media is made for Girls now so no.

literally mindbroken by 1 word

kek.

n-no I won't discuss anything b-because I feel insulted

More like you have 0 arguments so I accept your concession.

Delicious in Dungeon

Kommi Can't Communicate

Granted anime does action series much better.

when was the last time you guys read a book and liked it

Nobody who isn't a soccer mom or any other kind of woman is impressed by over the top edge.

Basic violence is edgy to you?

n-no you

still won't post his address

Yep yep, such a coward.

Where is my serial killer anime then?
I don't mean any kind of romanticized and frankly sterile kind you'd see in every piece of media made these days, I mean full-on ugly bastard tier raping and cutting women up.
Oh wait, that's too real so I have to watch Euroschlock cinema for this.
Why so mad?
There's nothing wrong with watching real gore. It makes you better actually, because you stop being a sensitive pussy.

No. for 3 reasons

1

The action cartoons you want are catered to little boys. Outside of random zany cartoons like Teen Titans Go and TAWOG, western animation has mostly abandoned them and are now catering to girls and emotionally stunted woman/manchildren

2

That last group is who makes these cartoons and 90% of them are only interested in recreating adventure time and steven universe. They're making shows catering to their peer group. The 10% who actually does want to make action cartoons don't really have the talent for it and can only make diet anime that sometimes gets saved by veteran guests animators

3

These cartoons relied on toy sales. Kids don't buy toys anymore and all the people that miss old action cartoons are either a vocal minority or there aren't enough to sell toys.

First violent thing I saw was when I was young and I was on Google video and found a clip Animals of Farthing Wood, it took an hour to load because we had dialup back then. It was the scene with the rat choking the snake, and the video was really low quality too so it added to it.

Middle school

still won't post his address

Why the fuck would he?

m-m-mindbroken (just let me spam my cancer buzzword in peace)

c-concession

What kind of non-white are you again?

still NO U-ing

Lmao, coward.

Never heard of either of those shows but thanks for telling me what i can avoid weeb

*The first fictional violent thing I saw

Liquid Reign

Mistborn Series

A metric shit-ton of low-brow fantasy isekai-lite novels

Meh.

The 10% who actually does want to make action cartoons don't really have the talent for it and can only make diet anime that sometimes gets saved by veteran guests animators

The shit they make still has girl protags and tumblr shit going on. Nothing at all to get boys interested.

y-you are the brown one actually

Answer the questions here . Oh wait, you can't.
He hasn't watched Texhnolyze. he is just a larping bitch.

I'v already experienced violence on my face you fag

As a girl

Sure, Eric

doubles down

Yep, your father hasn't raped you enough.

d-don't call me brown

You're acting like one, you get called one. Simple.

p-p-please engage with me

Why should I waste time and effort on some low IQ faggot?

Keep seething fag

Nobody cares about your projections, calm down.

You're acting like one, you get called one

You are the one that is having a meltdown and writing shit "I'll beat your irl" which is exactly how low iq browns act when they have no arguments.

Why should I waste time and effort on some low IQ faggot?

Lol, lmao nice excuse.

Cartoons will always be better than anime sry

n-no you!

That's all he can say! That's all he can say!

I haven't either.
That sucks, hopefully you're in a better situation. If thats the case.

Keep seething retard.

I'm better now

Aint no need to seethe at all. As i am guaranteed better shows than you are.

Better shows than you are

We speak English here Pablo.

ESL meltdown

How do they even have internet in your country?

"I'll beat your irl"

If tripfags got more beatings, they'd be less retarded. But good of you to show everybody what kind of cancer you are for defending one.

argue with me

You're trash, kek. There's no "excuses", just me telling you that straight up.

Cope weebs. Cartoons are better than anime.