HOW DARE THE ADULT ATTRACTIVE MAN AND THE ADULT ATTRACTIVE WOMAN HAVE A CONSENSUAL ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP????

HOW DARE THE ADULT ATTRACTIVE MAN AND THE ADULT ATTRACTIVE WOMAN HAVE A CONSENSUAL ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP????

Defend your point with historical examples, and arguments.

Stop defending this shit, it's pathetic. What do you get out of this?

Seriously, why did he keep trying to pair them up?

God forbid two heterosexual characters exist

I mean, when they did end up fucking it was disturbing because "son's on-again-off-again".
Granted I'll say people exaggerate the issue. It's stupid trashy behavior but she was in college by the time they met so it's not like he was fucking a kid

Millienals failed to teach younger people what is and isnt creepy when it comes to age gap that know Gen Z and younger see something like 50 year old meeting a 30 year old as creepy

my dad was 34 and my mom was 23 when they started dating and are still together

it makes you seethe like a faggot, it's already a win

you sure? Jeff Goldblum is still liked by millenials and even zoomers and he is like 25 years older than his wife (and they have a kid)

Eh, that might not be the case anymore. Most of the current fandom could see this interaction as plausible now. They probably think Bruce knew Babs when she was a kid.

Because it's his ship. Writers do that all the time when they can.

Bruce hooked up with a 21-22 year old in Mystery of the Batwoman and no one cared. The relationship with Barbara was intentionally "wrong" but not because of the age gap.

The relationship with Barbara was intentionally "wrong"

How is it wrong?

why would he know her when she was a kid? Gordon and Bruce Wayne aren't friends and I don't think Gordon invited Batman over for the BBQ party

Going for your son's girl or even ex-girl is weird as shit, and your inability to grasp this simple fact is why no one in your family actually likes you

meeting someone once when she was a kid doesnt make it creepy, my friend married a girl he first met when he was 15 and she was 8 but then haven't seen each other for more than a decade

Batgirl was Batman's love interest for the first 21 years (and briefly even Superman's) of her publication history until her backstory got retconned post-crisis in Secret Origins #20. There was even a stint in the 70's where Robin got paired up with her as her teen sidekick in the Batman Family series.

because meeting her as a kid and knowing her as a kid isn't the same
ok but why are you projecting

NTA
With yes or no only, do you have autism.

Cope Bruce

It's a little weird. Because of the student teacher dynamic, you can never be 100% sure that Bruce isn't using her infatuation with Batman and his position as a mentor to take advantage of her and get in her pants. Yes, Barbara is an adult and has agency, but Bruce has to have the discipline to resist the attraction. It's like a Professor dating a grad student. There's nothing wrong with it or illegal per se, but it's juuust a tad strange.

is weird as shit,

So is homosexuality and yet here we are

Because of the student teacher dynamic

Batman is not her teacher. She is self trained and they are partners.

Try again

Because it was Dick's ex and he was her mentor.
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you can never be 100% sure that

You don't have to be sure because it's none of your business that two adults are dating each other.

Their feelings, their bodies.

Batman The Animated Series

But that's Batman: The New Adventures, the Chinese bootleg version of Batman the Animated Series.

In TNBA she was his sidekick, not an equal partner youtube.com/watch?v=sNrDSPfsDyo

Because it was Dick's ex

So?

and he was her mentor.

Babs is self trained, she was a superhero even before she joined team Batman.

Stop lying tranny.

TNBA is better than the previous series in every way.

No, they were partners. He's the brains of the operation that's why he makes the plans. Doesn't mean they're not partners.

So?

Dating your partner/former ward's ex without asking if he's okay with it is tacky and inconsiderate. And Dick did not like it.

Babs is self trained, she was a superhero even before she joined team Batman.

The situation changed

This.

Reminder: Whatever your political slant is, the minute you start trying to tell other people what to do or how they they should be living their lives, you're in the wrong. Full stop.

Watch the video. He forced her to endure a vigorous training session she doesn't want to do.

TNBA is better than the previous series in every way.

Some people prefer RC Cola to Coke, it's fine to be weird.

Exactly, stop defending this retard way of thinking

Batman TAS is my favorite cartoon of all time. I like TNBA less than than The Batman. And I don't even like The Batman.

Dating your partner/former ward's ex without asking

Her body, her choice. Ex-boyfriends have no say in the matter.

The situation changed

It did not. She's using his training facility and he is giving advice because he is the better crimefighter.

Doesn't make him her boss

He didnt' force her you autist, it's called discipline

I bet you support homosexuality

strawmaning

I accept your concession roastie

TNBA is better

I agree. Except for the animation quality, character designs, general storytelling, characterizations, tone, voice direction, music, background design, and overall style. Everything else I agree with.

pedophobia is destroying western civilization.

Batman TAS but only 1/4th as good is still better than almost everything else, though.

In most continuities, he does teach her things. Batgirl: Year One is a great example of this. He may not instruct her directly, but he's helping her, giving her better tools, and giving her information. Because if he doesn't she's going to get herself hurt or killed.

I said Barbara has agency. I can accept their relationship, that doesn't mean I have to condone it.

Did you ever help or give instructions to your girlfriend?

It so, you are a rapist!!!

Completely unhinged

Who are you? Literally who are you? Why should they care if that you don't condone it? Who asked??

professor dating a grad student

Ah, memories of Donna Troy and that weird husband who people wondered if he was Wolfman's self-insert or not

Bruce is 45 and Barbra is 16.

pure spite and contrarianism. no one actually likes this ship

isn't she a high school senior even before becoming Batgirl?

Her body, her choice. Ex-boyfriends have no say in the matter.

I get the feeling you're not very popular with the lads.
Cite any scene where he ever treats her as an equal and not someone who has to do what he says.
TNBA had consistently better animation than TAS because of the change in character designs. Also for not having to make 65 episodes in one season.

no one actually likes this ship

I only like it because it always makes moralfags seethe

Cite any scene where he ever treats her as an equal

Yeah, you ARE pathetic.

TNBA had the same amount of inconsistent animation as any other show of its era. Occasionally good, but mostly safe and bland. But generally much less interesting than BTAS and much obviously cheaper.

Not in that context. Batman is the clearly the authority figure in this dynamic. And she's placing herself into that dynamic voluntarily by taking his symbol. She even acknowledges this in the next issue. She could say "I'm his partner" or "I'm independent" but she doesn't here.

You care. You want me to be okay with their relationship. I'm not. If my daughter came home with her teacher and called him her boyfriend there's no way I'm going to give the guy a high five. That said, if she's an adult, she can do what she wants and be with whomever she wants. That does not mean I have to be happy about it, however.

Ya fume.

I don't even consider them to be the same continuity

you are just reinforcing his point, your daughter wouldnt give a single shit what you think about her personal life lmao

That's a friendly tennis game where he figures out Barbara is Batgirl because they have the same flawed technique. That's not treating Batgirl as an equal.
Koko and Dong Yang were solid animation studios. TMS did fantastic work as they always do.

much obviously cheaper.

It really wasn't. There was no budget cut. Timm said that WB were fine with doing new episodes of show in the old style but he insisted on changing it because he was unhappy with all the worst-looking episodes and wanted to prevent them from happening again.

I don't either, I never include those episodes when I rewatch the series. I could watch them when I was younger but they just feel too childish to me now.

You can treat TNBA as an alternate future but it's very clearly carrying on everything established in the previous series.

The show looks the way it does to keep it more in-line with the Superman series. And the Superman series absolutely suffered from budget restraints, as did all of the WB-produced programming on Kids WB.

TNBA was much edgier than TAS, there was never anything as kid-pandering as I've Got Batman in My Basement. And TAS never had Batman get shot or Batgirl/Harley Quinn get a hard landing from the top of a building.

Theyre consenting adults and did nothing wrong you zoomer puritan. Age gap is based anyways

edgier

Edginess is childish.

All those cartoons had huge budgets. If BTAS was higher, that was a one-in-a-million situation because of the Burton films. The first season of Superman looks consistently fantastic in contrast to the 65 episode first season of BTAS which has it share of wretched-looking episodes.

The Animaniacs episodes on WB looked really cheap compared to the Fox episodes. The only show that WB ever did that looked good were Sylvester & Tweety (which sucks) and a handful of the early Freakazoid and Superman episodes. But you can see the budgets getting squeezed tighter and tighter as the years went on.

Some warped priorities if you think Mad Love, which was originally a comic published in the old art style, is more childish than Be A Clown.

Older shows got less priority. Batman Beyond always looked good. The third season of Superman looked bad because they had one crew doing three shows at the same time, then they solved that problem by cancelling Superman and Batman leaving them to focus on the one show.
Years later, The Batman looked great. Legion of Super Heroes always looked fine.

I wish they would reanimate Mad Love in the BTAS style and release it as a direct to video thing. It's a crime what they did to that story.

Speak English.
The only problem I have is that you retards never shut the fuck up about it.

Age gap is based anyways

You'll never bang zoomer pussy.

There's a few "darker" TNBA episodes, but the vast majority of them are superhero stories that branch off of the more contained and "grounded" BTAS into incorporating the greater DC universe, which I always hated because I specifically wanted to watch Batman in the Batman show doing Batman things and detective work with his rogue's gallery.

Besides Mad Love is just as cherrypicked as I've Got Batman in my Basement. Feat of Clay, Heart of Ice, The Man Who Killed Batman, even Joker's Favor are all on that level and there's plenty more. Not to mention the few darker episodes like Mad Love of TNBA are completely ruined by the art style.

Edginess is childish.

No it isn't.

Yes, it is. Only teenagers equate edginess with maturity.

Years later, The Batman looked great. Legion of Super Heroes always looked fine.

I think they look like cheaply made shit, personally.

What do you consider mature?

I was a huge fan of the Mad Love graphic novel for years since it released in 1993 in the excellent Batman Adventures comic line, but I was disgusted when I finally saw it adapted into an episode. They should have made it years earlier.

Three of those images are from BTAS, and one from Beyond.

BTAS looks the way it does because it was made in 1992. TNBA looks the way it was because it was made in 1997, after Power Rangers came out and changed things.

Holiday Knights, Mad Love - adaptations of TAS comics
Sins of the Father, Cold Comfort, Never Fear, You Scratch My Back, Double Talk, Growing Pains, Mean Seasons, Torch Song, Love is a Croc, Cult of the Cat, Animal Act, Old Wounds, Chemistry, Judgment Day, Beware the Creeper - all of these could also work as TAS/Adventures of Batman and Robin episodes
Over the Edge - ultra-dark dream episode
The Ultimate Thrill - this was an expanded take on one of the comic tie-in's annuals
The Demon Within - this may be a supernatural Etrigan episode, but it's a follow-up to another BTAS comic annual written by Dini, Murakami, and Timm which this episode establishes as canon
Joker's Millions - an adaptation of a silly silver age story that Paul Dini enjoyed as a child
Legends of the Dark Knight - another adaptation that was modified to be a loving tribute to Sprang and Miller while poking some fun at Schumacher
Critters - yeah, Steve Gerber has a weird sense of humor
Girls' Night Out - Supergirl crossover, proto-Gotham Girls
So really, the number of episodes that are "superhero stories that branch off of the more contained and "grounded" BTAS into incorporating the greater DC universe" is actually pretty small.

your daughter wouldnt give a single shit what you think about her personal life lmao

If I'm a good father she will. But that's beside the point. Just because I accept something doesn't mean I have to condone or condemn. That's binary thinking.

I actually like TNBA and consider it more in line with the rest of the DCAU. I consider BTAS as it's own thing.

yeah and isnt she like 30 by the time she becomes Oracle

Timm has actually explained his artistic evolution. He was an inexperienced first-time showrunner when he made Batman. After seeing the finished product, he was unhappy with the results and modified his style to compensate.