Mickey Adjacent

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Darkwing Duck definitely counts, but yeah, Rescue Rangers is definitely more of its own thing.
Makes sense cause RR originally had nothing to do with Chip and Dale, they were only added later.

He would only exist in the timeline where they are actors like bonkers and Roger rabbit

Doesn't House of Mouse operate on this exact concept?

TaleSpin crossed over with DuckTales

when? and dont say nutales. it's non-canon garbage

Technically, the Solego comic showed that all the Disney Afternoon shows exist in the same world together.

I'd say there are three tiers to the Mickey crew:

Tier 1 - The main tier, the core group. Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Minnie, Daisy, Pluto, and Pete.

Tier 2 - The supporting cast. Clarabelle, Horace, Clara, Chip & Dale, Scrooge, Ludwig von Drake, Huey, Dewey & Louie, Max, Mortimer, Phantom Blot, etc. Would Oswald go here?

Tier 3 - The adjacent cast, usually introduced as related in some fashion to the Tier 1 or Tier 2 characters. Yen Sid; Jose and Panchito; the Rescue Ranger characters; the Goof Troop/A Goofy Movie characters; the DuckTales cast and all the obscure characters from the extended Duck comics; and the Darkwing Duck cast.

I think a lot of them feel that way because they largely serve as main characters in a spinoff to Mickey's universe that stars one of Mickey's main supporting cast, and they become very associated and almost inseparable with that specific character
Three Caballeros is Donald's spinoff franchise
Rescue Rangers is Chip and Dale's spinoff franchise
Here's Goofy's spinoff franchise

Disney Adventures, a kid's magazine from the 90s.

that too. Honestly just have every character from duckverse absolutely destroy my ass. So many possibilities

I think a question is how you determine tier 2 with tier 3, what's supporting and what's "adjacent"
Seeing who is considered tier 2 I'd easily consider Jose/Panchito same realm. Can't see how they'd be tier 3 when Max and Clara would be tier 2

Europe has always played pretty loose with the existence of humans in duck comics

You can normally tell how many give a damns the team has when humans start to appear.

Towards the end of goof troop back from characters became more and more human looking. By quack pack they had mostly given up on animals and mot new characters are humans

I vaguely recall those comics. Wasn't it just that the magical crystal would show up in the character's world and cause some sort of mayhem? I don't recall the specifics... however, if you consider the fact that it's a mysterious magical artifact, and that interdimensional travel can be achieved by magic, or even if you prescribe to the multiverse theory, that could explain why the artifact could exist in all of these stories without them necessarily being in the same universe.

How does tail spin fit into the Disney afternoon universe?

It feels like the past. Clearly pre computer chip. It lo happens mainly around islands. Would baloo be an old man in duck tails? Would Kahn be old tiger competing with scrooge?

Are chip and dale small or as big as mickey in the gooftroop universe? How about gadget?

Is Jessica an actual rabbit and drawn similar to Peg where it is just her with a dot nose and rabbit ears?

Jessica might look like this but I think the face would be more human. Disney doesn't do much to hot female anthros. Warner Brothers is the one that gives them snouts and big cheeks

Worth noting Tad Stones insists Ducktales and Darkwing are not the same universe, but that aside, it just feels weird to me to consider Darkwing part of the "Mickey & Friends crew" as put by OP- which I took as "Mickey & Friends brand". Someone like the Three Caballeros make sense to me there- they met Donald, who's a direct main part of the brand, and in the new cgi toddler shows even met Mickey. But Darkwing's connection isn't anyone that's part of the brand, it's Gizmoduck and Launchpad who themselves are only tangentially related through an adaptation, you know? Just a step too far removed for me

It's more sensible then wacky comic book shit like "The mice from Cinderella live on Grandma Duck's farm" or "Madam Mim is best pals with Magica de Spell".

I mean, I'd say the exact opposite, especially for the latter- at some point you have to accept things as they are, and when there's hundreds of stories about Mim interacting with Magica, the Beagle Boys, etc, I'd say she SHOULD just be considered part of the Mickey brand

Every character here is canon to Mickey/Donald core universe
donaldduck.nl/duckipedia

No multiverse here. The crystal turns up in the TaleSpin setting first, then a timeskip to 50 years later when it passes through Rescue Rangers, Goof Troop, DuckTales, and Darkwing Duck in that order.

Wasn't it just that the magical crystal would show up in the character's world and cause some sort of mayhem? I don't recall the specifics...

The crystal would actually physically travel from location to location. The Rescue Rangers have a crow fly the crystal as far away as he can, and he drops it in Spoonerville, where Solego possesses Pete's new car. After being beaten by Goofy and Pete, Solego has Pete's car towed to Duckburg, where he possesses the Gizmo-suit, etc.

But Darkwing's connection isn't anyone that's part of the brand, it's Gizmoduck and Launchpad who themselves are only tangentially related through an adaptation, you know?

It's not just Gizmoduck and Launchpad (although I would consider that enough), it's Scrooge. Even if you ascribe to the "DuckTales and Darkwing Duck aren't in the same universe" (which I don't, because that's dumb), even the Darkwing Duck versions of the characters still hail from Duckburg and worked for Scrooge McDuck. In Gizmoduck's debut episode in DWD, Launchpad tells Darkwing that he and Fenton "used to work for the same guy." There are also the comic books (both new and old), which often have the characters crossing over and referencing each other.

Ratigan's Dutch name is Ratatouille

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Seeing who is considered tier 2 I'd easily consider Jose/Panchito same realm

I guess my logic was they're not usually involved with ordinary Mickey & Friends stuff; usually when they're around, it's specifically Three Caballeros-related material. But I guess I'm not opposed to them being considered Tier 2 characters, since they do interact directly with Donald. Would this also apply to Yen Sid, then?

Even the whole setting is indicative that even if it was not taking place in Ducktales 87's universe, it was always intended to exist in a universe Donald and Scrooge exists; St. Canard is always directly across from Duckburg.

In Gizmoduck's debut episode in DWD, Launchpad tells Darkwing that he and Fenton "used to work for the same guy."

Funny thing is in Ducktales 2017's version Drake is later hired under Scrooge for his Darkwing role to cover St Canard. Which means Launchpad, Fenton AND Drake are employed under Scrooge

Worth noting Tad Stones insists Ducktales and Darkwing are not the same universe

Pretty sure absolutely nobody takes that as canon, especially since he said it decades after the show ended.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTQPJjltLlk
Obviously

It's especially dumb since... What does that accomplish, exactly? How does that change or benefit anything?

Oh, it's not really Launchpad McQuack and Fenton Crackshell/Gizmoduck who came from Duckburg and used to work for Scrooge McDuck, it's actually Launchpad McQuack and Fenton Crackshell/Gizmoduck who came from Duckburg and used to work for Scrooge McDuck!

I think it had just been so long since the show ended that Tad forgot about how it outright stated that DT and DW shared the same world.

It's hard to distinguish with them specifically because of how their media is distributed
They do crossover with the non-Donald Mickey characters, including episodes of the 2010s-2020s Mickey shows starring them. They can have a general park mascot role (especially in Japan and Brazil), and they do have their own leading comics independent from the rest that can crossover with other Mickey universe characters. But ultimately they are largely part of the trio which is its own franchise. Outside the comics Jose is almost never appearing without Panchito now, and both are tied to the hip with each other and also Donald in that they rarely appear in the west without him.
Ultimately I think it's the same with Max Goof, YMMV if they are supporting Mickey universe or adjacent in their own franchise, because they do appear with a core Mickey character often and in general other media but are so associated with their main franchise and grouping. To me it's either both Cabs and Max are supporting or adjacent since they have many similarities

Didn't Tad Stones and the writer of the comic throw an absolute shit fit over the Dangerous Currency story line of the 2012 comic? There was a lot of drama behind that series but I remember that story being completely nixed from reprints and now its worth a bit of money on the 2nd market

For anyone who gets confused by this, think of it like how Wario game and DKC characters don't usually mingle with the rest of the mainstream Mario crowd

The fit was mainly thrown because Disney had already taken their license from Boom Comics, but Boom went behind their backs and ran the arc anyway.

It's basically a bootleg that was done without getting permission from Disney first.

Disney made the Rescue Rangers movie canon so their "opinion" on canon is worthless

Oh shit, was that the problem? I thought it was just that it wasn't very good.

If Disney cared about that they'd have taken the license away from the very first Ducktales comic Boom did

Ain’t it weird that Minnie owns Geppetto’s cat?

dat enormous Launchpad

I know he was drawn a bit bulkier in Darkwing Duck as opposed to his lankier build in DuckTales, but goddamn I hate when artists draw Launchpad like a Superman-esque tank.

It was basically a huge editorial mess between Boom management and the DW comic staff that turned out so godawful Disney pulled the plug on everything.
Like the writers were hoping to build their Phantom Blot storyline up into a Darkwing/Mickey team-up and the Blot using that ink he's been developing to get the powers of his Epic Mickey version, but a Ducktales crossover mandate took priority.

Just realised this could be taken as just average Anon Babble shitty grouchiness so I need to underline that no, the Ducktales comic WAS just outright bad, culminating in the infamous issue 3

Even so, nobody disobeys The Mouse and expects to get away with it.

The last two panels

Did they just use the same art of the characters twice right next to each other?

To be fair, even in the TPB's rewritten ending, the Blot still mentions how with Magica's evil ink, he'll destroy "his greatest enemy". They were still hoping for that Mickey crossover.

Yes, and also it's clearly art taken from a different comic

He's a completely different character there but who the hell had the idea to turn Rockerduck into some kind of zombie in Nutales...? But to be fair, Beaks made him obsolete in the show.

Some of the art in the Scrooge/Gladstone panels also looks almost AI-ish, which is impressive, as this was years before AI art was a thing.

Wanting a Darkwing/Mickey crossover

Not a Darkwing/Duck Avenger crossover

No wonder they failed

This is DuckTales canon where Donald is stuck in the Navy. He's got no time for that sort of thing. Even Dangerous Currency fucked that up by having Donald living in Duckburg again and somehow being SHUSH's top agent.

Do the Silly Symphonies characters exist in Mickey’s Universe?

Spoiler

As offbeat as it is it isn't out of character. Donald is VERY competent when it comes to secret heroics (and he can't publicly take credit for anything)

Why is everything traced

I remember reading this years ago... Never been able to get it confirmed or not, but I like the idea and hope it was real. I remember reading that Disney once had an idea for a "Justice Ducks" show, but instead of being specifically based on the team from Darkwing Duck, it was going to be an all-new team consisting of Duck Avenger, Darkwing Duck, Gizmoduck, Wildwing Flashblade, and then new heroes made up for the show. It wasn't going to be a continuation of DuckTales/Darkwing Duck/The Mighty Ducks, but a new continuity with new "versions" of the characters. I assume it was in response to the Justice League cartoon, as I think I remember the original post/article mentioning it was first devised around that time.

Didn't they also fire the main writer of the comic and rewrite the entire series for reprints minus Dangerous Currency to have more darkwing-esque dialogue?

Jose and Panchito are Donald Duck characters and once in a blue moon appear together in comics. Jose also appeared in some modern Mickey shorts. So these two are part of the Mickey & Friends crew. So are Chip & Dale in their original noisy squirrels persona that annoy Donald. Meanwhile, the other depicted characters only exist in their own spin-off world.

Which according to the editor and the artist was because the main writer was an asshole who was basically not doing anything and the editor and the artist were ghostwriting the comic, almost, so when they did the reprint with touchups on the art and a couple new stories they also reworked the dialogue

How much of that is true, eh, it's gossip at that point

This looks like it was made out of Clipart and panels from other comics.

I think it was the editor that got fired. The main writer did the rewrites for the TPB and tried to keep Darkwing going under a new publisher, but that didn't last a year

Nah, the writer was Ian Brill, and he's the one who got fired; the editor who then rewrote things for the TPB and wrote the Joe Books comic was Aaron Sparrow, and the artist through it was James Silvani

Imagine how many Mickey universe guys would have gay sex

People need to know that it has a special name. For Mickey Mouse and his crew especially from his comics it's called Mouseverse, and for Donald Duck and his family and friends and everything related to him it's Duckverse. Although honestly Duckverse is much more popular than Mouseverse. But they definitely overlap, even though they don't meet often.

As for Disney Afternoon, they all kind of share the same universe. Yes, if anyone asks, humans are also a part of it.

Terrible, how many people have no idea about Rockerduck, although I can't blame the Americans that much because they don't know about him except from a Barks comic where Rockerduck appeared once. The Italians made him Scrooge's biggest rival, bigger than Glomgold. The Nu-Tales crap turned him into a zombie because he supposedly belonged to the oilman era just because of the name (John Rockefeller). And we'll never get an animated adaptation of him eating his hat every time he loses to Scrooge.

Europe has always played pretty loose with the existence of humans in duck comics

By quack pack they had mostly given up on animals and mot new characters are humans

It would actually be preferable if it were a mix of worlds where anthropomorphic animals and humans live together. That certainly makes more sense to me. In Donald Duck comics (especially European and Brazilian comics) it is quite represented and acceptable to me. That's why when I watched Quack Pack I had no problem seeing humans in the Duckverse as well as Roman gods and Xandra in The Legend of The Three Caballeros. Somehow it always made sense to me to see how Donald would behave with humans. Even Barks drew humans in a few comics until his publishers told him not to. It wasn't until the 1960s and 1970s that comics featuring humans were published, and one even became a canonical character in European comics. Pic related. Then they brought back the dognoses humans.

I always considered dognoses people to be part of the old cartoon universe, more like Looney Tunes and Tex Avery because they used it a lot. Except for the Beagle Boys, they were always great to me.

Thing is Mouseverse and Duckverse overlap way too much
Of course they have characters more "core" in those comics splintering (Mickey usually will get Minnie, Pete Blot, etc, Donald gets Scrooge, HDL, etc) but they all really crossover so much there's really not much difference between them. Especially how in all countries they are published in the same combined magazine

It makes sense, and Beaks basically replaced him as a more modern competition for Scrooge... but seriously... why even return him in the show more than once? Make him a one-episode reference like most things.
In the comics he had some legit good plans to "defeat" Scrooge and often succeeded at first, he wasn't as "blunt" as Glomgold. One of my favorite comics is where Scrooge wants to rise their version of the Titanic, the Gigantic, from the ocean and restore it for a marketing stunt. However Rockerduck ACTUALLY manages to win and sinks the Gigantic again... just so that Scrooge fakes rising a completely rebuilt Gigantic from the sea. Its kinda out of character that he paid for it but technically, he lost in that one.

The Chaos God story hid all trace of humans during the Rescue Rangers segment, likely for consistency with all the other shows that use the Disney dogmen.