Kimba the White Lion vs The Lion King

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Kimba the White Lion vs The Lion King

I just saw YMS's video from a few years ago about the Kimba the White Lion vs Lion King controversy. I agree that The Lion King is obviously not a 1:1 ripoff and has plenty of its own appeal, but I find it fucking annoying that his video dismisses any possibility of there being any influence. It felt like he had some emotional vendetta against Kimba and like he had to defend The Lion King with his entire heart, and I'm saying that as someone who fucking loves The Lion King and has watched less than an hour of Kimba.

seeing a dead relative in the clouds is just a general trope bro!

a darker-toned villain with a scar on his eye is just a general trope bro!

Sure, Kimba didn't invent either of those. But when those specific things show up in two animated properties about a lion being king of the African wildlife, the similarities are going to stick out.

I don't understand why it has to be either disingenuous faggots calling The Lion King direct plagiarism based on uninformed comparisons to shit after The Lion King released, or pretending like there's absolutely no way Disney's massive team of animators, producers, and writers working on The Lion King were exposed to Kimba the White Lion and took any inspiration. It's like saying "Family Guy is very different from The Simpsons, therefore Family Guy wasn't inspired by The Simpsons in any way."

Something can take inspiration without being a direct copy. What do you think?

dismisses any possibility of there being any influence

I distinctly remember him bringing up quotes from the Disney crew that they were aware of Kimba but they denied copying it. It's been a while but I want to say he came to the conclusion that he doubt they copied Kimba but there's a chance that they unintentionally took some inspiration. And then he focused on the differences between Lion King and the original, how the later versions of Kimba had new changes that seemed to have been influenced by Lion King, how Tezuka's family said that Lion King didn't steal from Kimba, and then that montage where there are more similarities between Kimba and some old ass comic that came out way before the original did.

Anon, I have a blackpill for you. NO ONE actually cares about the truth here, it's just chimpanzees throwing shit at each other. It's all

well its obvious, I'm smart and you're retarded

Scar is weak, foreign and with very female moves

this entire video is so encapsulated with every aspect of Adum's autism when it comes to how much of a faggot he is with this movie, but it's also probably one of the comfiest most revisitable videos on youtube

The problem is Disney's crew is going to deny any inspiration out of having guns pointed to their heads from their NDA's, and even without that aspect there's still going to be a lot of muddying going on between workers on what inspiration was even taken depending on their roles. You could be the director for the movie and still have no idea if a writer or artist was pitching something based on some Kimba shit they watched the other week unless they outright tell you.

The funniest part of the video is how both he and the comments bemoan the existence of a so-called "KIMBA CROWD", a legion of rabid idiots that in reality is probably composed of 6 autists who haven't been active online for 10 or more years.
Everything is framed as a titanic battle against the endless foaming hordes of the "Kimba Crowd".

also I guess he finally caught aids

Buy an ad, nigger.

No video comparing these two things needs to be a 3-hour fucking long essay. I could've told you in 2 seconds that No, they're not related.

"Your Movie Sucks"? His channel fucking sucks. Dude sounds like someone shoved a fat dick down his throat and fucked up his vocal chords.

To be fair those 6 autists did convince people in the early 2000s and slop producing online articles have been spreading it ever since. lol

Dude sounds like someone shoved a fat dick down his throat

he's a faggot so this literally did happen

You don't get rich without theft.

Simple as.

taking opinions from a dogfucker seriously

And that's an important point that should've been underlined.
Three or four autists swayed online discourse for 30 years.
It's not an endless legion of retards agressively waging a Kimba culture war. It's not a "crowd".

He didn't mention it because it would partially undermine his point about it being a vast conspiracy, when in reality it shows just how little it takes for the opinions of millions to be influenced.

a guy so insanely obsessed with the Lion King that he had to make a multi part opus of him shitting on Disney's 3d remake (which he still hasn't finished)

that itself and his entire channel was derailed for years so he could make a 2 and a half hour Kimba video

Why is he so obsessed with the Lion King?

there's something going around that he apparently got molested by a family member or something, not exactly sure how credible that is but apparently it has to do with that. that and he's also a furfag

There's hordes of people who believe the Kimba crowd to this day, they just aren't rabid about it. They'll bring up a "fun fact" about Lion King being a "ripoff" of GLORIOUS NIPPON once every couple years whenever TLK is discussed, they still believe it they just aren't proselytizing every day.

I think what gets me about this one is no one who pushes this theory actually cares about Kimba (look when it's watched or brought up on Anon Babble or anywhere, it never is, just in relation to TLK discussion), it's just they see an animated film that exceeds everything anime put out and more successful too, and in desperation see a way to "own" western animation by saying it copied an anime film.
Which goes back to the main question, why do people get so defensive over anime? You are not Japanese and have no connection to the medium or country making the medium, why do you have to be adamant that anime is greater then everything your actual country has ever made? Kimba's discourse is just one of the most prominent examples of just this weirdness that only exists with animefags who are balls deep defending something they will never be part of

It's really not that deep about it being anime wankers wanting an "own". It's more that normies are dumbasses who like conspiracies and find it more interesting to think a giant company like Disney would steal from some obscure unknown animation to them. Same types that unironically would talk about the possibility that Walt is in some freezer at disney world.

Only white negros would make fun of the Disney company, yes.

Lion King has one of the more autistic fandoms under the Disney umbrella. Like think Star Wars fans but furries the way they clung onto forgotten tie-in books as containing the true backstory of Scar so hard that the Mufasa movie ended up using the pre-scar name that thing gave him.

Which goes back to the main question, why do people get so defensive over anime?

sunk cost

That reminds me, someone actually tackled the Atlantis the Lost Empire vs Nadia thing.
youtube.com/watch?v=TAIShMxjqZo

HMMMM SUSPICIOUS

Matthew Broderick had said he actually thought The Lion King was an adaptation of Kimba when he signed onto it.

Shut up Lemongrab

video dismisses any possibility of there being any influence

There's tons of back-and-forth influence between Disney and Japan. Asians are notorious homework copiers, and westaboos, their own culture stagnated a millennia ago.

His video is more interested on debunking the point people make which to be fair are wrong. That actually explore any idea of Kimba being the inspiration of the lion king.

I'm not listening that. Qrd

There's tons of back-and-forth influence between Disney and Japan.

Tezuka being influenced by "the good Duck artist" and what not.

Lion King is a fairy tale. It's both a talking animal story /and/ a prince story, that is told within the frameworks of a fairy tale. It directly corresponds to ancient tales, like Aesop. It portrays lions as the traditionally-told king of beasts, where other animals perform Romantic exaggerated acts, like bowing towards Simba's christening. It's not a story that is concerned with literal reality, it's an exaggerated human story told with animals. People compare The Lion King to Hamlet a lot, but the story is already familiar. The story of Snow White was about a royal who goes into hiding after an attempted assassination. The motif of a royal finding refuge with mundane people is very common in fairy tales. Look up Donkeyskin/Cap-o'-Rushes, or any of the dozens of variants of that story.

Great artists steal, originality is a fucking meme.

This also applies to cartoonfags desu. They always get defensive when people mention that they prefer anime.

They did rip it off. They even ripped off Nadia when they made Atlantis. Why are Disney shills so fucking stubborn when it comes to this. They won't even take the "well they might've been inspired by it" speech, they 100 percent think that Disney was original.

Atlantis and Nadia were adapting the same shit: Jules Verne novels and Edgar Cayce schizo writings about Atlantean crystals. Disney specifically went for a throwback to their 20,000 Leagues movie from the 50s while Anno took a lot of cues from Atragon and Space Battleship Yamato.

Shut the fuck up you retarded faggot

Also Mike Mignola art. Like Disney was studying Hellboy comics so much for a visual style they just hired him to work on the movie and freaked him out with all the autistic diagrams breaking down how he draws hands hanging on the walls.

Nadia and Atlantis are nothing alike. I guarantee people saying this have never actually watched Nadia. Atlantis is far more similar to Castle in the Sky, where there really are a lot more distinct similarities. I'm not completely convinced if I would call it a rip-off. Castle in the Sky itself was essentially a remake of Animal Treasure Island.

have to be adamant that anime is greater then everything your actual country has ever made?

That's an exaggeration but I do seriously prefer anime to western tv animation. Nothing wrong with that.

We need to talk more about how Disney ripped off Shakespeare. The Lion King was obviously stolen from Henry IV.