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So, do you care about Wonder Woman's villains?
So, do you care about Wonder Woman's villains?
Ares is okay but the rest pretty much suck
Dr. Domino is okay but the rest pretty much suck
It's not a BAD rogues' gallery. Not really. Ares in the right hands is a Justice League-level threat. Circe is very dangerous as well. Cheetah makes for a good "normal" villain, somebody to recur to fill the dead air between story arcs. Dr. Psycho is a fun villain. Dr. Poison was used decently well in the movie.
It's not an absolutely shitty rogues' gallery. There are way worse. I guess the thing is that they've just generally never been handled well. Like almost everything related to Wonder Woman, they have a lot of potential that's just never been realized.
I like Cheetah when she has a nice design.
I'd only care if her fights got brutal, and if it were well-drawn, and she was really hot and sexual.
Basically, I'd want a Western equivalent of Atsuji Yamamoto's Arnis.
it's really funny that tom king said he was going to give wonder woman an arch enemy on the level of the joker or lex luthor and he created an old guy
Of all the felines in existence, why did the writers choose a cheetah?
I mean, have you heard cheetahs roar?
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It would have been better to choose a feline from the genus panther: leopard, snow leopard, jaguar, lion, or tiger.
Does Tom King know she ALREADY HAS at least one, possibly two, maybe even three, villains who would fit that description? Of course he doesn't. I bet he's never even red Perez's run, or Rucka's.
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Yeah I like her villains.
Circe, Cheetah, Giganta, Dr. Psycho, Ares, even the new one 'The Soverign' is pretty cool as a concept
Cheetah only looks good when they go full furry and DC's insistence on not doing so proves that capeshitters have no taste.
I dunno, isn't Cheetah an OG villain? Like from Marston's time back in the day? What did Marston think about her?
Then again, Cheetah's been reinvented almost as many times as Wonder Woman herself, so maybe all the problems Diana has are problems Barbara has as well.
WW needs an animated show to flesh out her villains in media adaptations.
The video game that just got cancelled would have been perfect.
Tbf he wanted an American evil patriarchal villain that’s in opposition to her foreign matriarchal views.
Of all the felines in existence, why did the writers choose a cheetah?
Because the cheetah is the fastest land animal which I guarantee, other than the look, was the only thing the creators knew about cheetahs when she was made in the early 40s. They didn’t have internet, the only practical way they would know how cheetah sounds would be if they watched a film where someone didn’t dub over them with a scarier roar.
Imagine Paper Man, but like Konan from Naruto.
That's honestly not a bad idea. Even if it's not quite as famous as Batman: The Animated Series, it's absolutely the case that Superman: The Animated Series did wonders for his rogues' gallery. Gave us a fantastic take on Luthor. Reinterpreted Brainiac for the better. Gave us very cool takes on Parasite and Metallo. Turned Darkseid himself into a sort-of Superman villain. Invented Livewire and Volcana, both of whom are now in the comics. Gave us a very cool take on Mr. Mxyzptlk thanks to the late, great Gilbert Gottfried.
Wondy absolutely needs something like BTAS or STAS, helmed by a crew as good as Timm and co. were. Something to streamline and organize her mythos and her villains and her world, give it a "definitive" portrayal for normalfags.
Is this Superman or the Crimson Chin?
he created an old guy
He is redundant with the Duke of deception
cat lady villainous chirps at me
all desire to fight for justice evaporates
Too powerful
The original Cheetah is completely different. Rich woman with mental health issues and no particular powers, just dressed in the pelt of a cat.
I remember there was a video by a guy called Blowshimselfupdude where he said Wonder Woman isn't really iconic cause her villains and supporting characters and it pissed off a lot of people back when comic YT was niche I remember one video reply by a gay dude who loved WW lmfao. God I miss old comics YT.
Super Chin
She is iconic/famous, but she isn't popular.
They're cool as fuck, but get no love or respect
Cheetah would look something more like this (A Beast Cries in the Wilderness, art by Itoh Sei).
The human face looks tacked on. If she had a more catlike nose it would mesh better.
No, I don't.
And didn't Wonder Woman le heckin pwn Batman and Superman by saying she doesn't have a rogues gallery because she ends her enemies?
Nah, this way looks better.
I would hazard to guess that yes, they just picked an animal that hadn't yet been used and just ran with it. So the signifcance has to be retconned back in to explain why specifically. I would say cheetahs are the most feminine looking large cats possibly another reason why they picked a cheetah since circus tamers fought against lions. Minerva (the most popular and enduring character) is also a rich modern woman who is turned into a ferocious corruption of feminimity. She uses both her helplessness (in human disguise) and ruthlessness to exploit men and women and is initially attracted to becoming the Cheetah due to funds running low and wanting immortality as instead of having a child she can just get an accomplishment. I have not read Perez's run so maybe this is all dumb. But anyway, maybe Cheetah could also benefit from maybe suddenly having the urge to have a child which drives her crazy and eventually maybe she gets a man to also become a cheetah that impregnates her and she kills him leaving her to psychologically abuse a child kinda like Slade in TT. An inverse of Wonder Woman's message of the power of the nurturing side of feminimity and add a dynamic of enlisting a child into a war against her kinda like Harry and Norman Osborn. Except maybe something different could be added, I dunno. Also Wonder Woman usually being depicted nowadays as being more ruthless and hot-tempered than Supes and Bats could also be exacerbated by Cheetah's speed and violence leading to WW having to act fast and decisively which gets questioned by others and possibly leads to hints or possible underlying sexism. I dunno I just wanted to challenge myself into thinking how to make Cheetah an arch-nemesis like Joker or Lex on both aesthetic, characteristic, and thematic levels.
Anon, next time you make a long post, please break it up into smaller paragraphs.
It may sound silly but I honestly feel like you can make Blue Snowman a intimidating villain, just make her a super genius who makes a bunch of gadgets and mechs like Dr Eggman I guess
Ares could appear as a giant man in an armor adorned with the emblems/standards of the world's greatest militaries.
White Magician and Devastation, Silver Swan when she's crazy. Rest are meh.
Sorry I'm tired as hell and I kinda wasn't thinking. Anyway if I get a gf, you bet she's wearing the costume at some point. Also pic rel is one of my favorite alt costumes.
Also would WW benefit from learning magic? I mean she mainly is brute force but WW with spells she uses sometimes or Grecian/Amazonian rituals could be interesting. I mean it wouldn't hurt for her to have more options and maybe different magical weapons. Of course it would have to be justified and I don't know much about WW but it was something that came to mind.
However, his actual form, and that of the gods, may appear less human than they once used to.
Circe could be a crazy voluptuous goddess.
Okay?!
Greatest villain of the silver age and he's "okay"?!