Death Battle

Discuss matchups and your thoughts on Doom Slayer vs Master Chief

wank?

His dueling spirit is higher than the darkness as stated by Yudai (jaden), he has scaling over Yubel who matched exodia when that one guy sacrificed his gf for the pieces in GX and Yubel was about to merge all 12 dimensions into one.

Season 3 has Marik use cards on people. in season 4 he literally does wahtever he wants no mattering the rules vs Orichalcos in the final battle, PoL has him use shinning dragon to kill Anubis as a duelist, BBT has Yudai defend himself from a real dragon with neos and capsule monsters also has him use magic to fight and have his saint seiya armors.

Well no shit, its a vs battle. He must be willing to kill. Ash wouldnt in character try to kill Yugi either

speed gap is thru game scaling and direct scaling to the legendary mons. But if used, yeah, ash has the means to win.

The biblical God is the only character this general can agree that Kratos defeats

KEKYPOW

Doom Slayer vs Master Chief

The whole episode and animation kinda felt rushed to me. I'm also of the opinion that the kill was a little over the top

there's like only 4 fights in this list that where both fighters are on equal level

vague statement feat where a character threatens (but doesn't actually do it) to destroy 12 "universe size" pocket dimensions, who is beaten by hax and not raw strength, and scaled to either with statements or the world's shoddiest scaling chain where explicitly weaker characters are considered equals

not doing the same for ash, where the yield would be millions if not infinite times larger

claiming spells/traps are instant and uncounterable when most have a physical travel trajectory and literal gusts of wind or a hole in the ground can stop them going off in YGO canon, let alone just banishing everyone to another dimension with a wormhole

atheistsissy meltdown

Kal-L

Vandal Savage

Skips

Apocalypse

Sun Wukong

Maui

Ur-Didact

Yamoshi

Merged Zamasu

Divayth Fyr

Dracula

Death of the Endless

Deadpool

God-Emperor of Mankind

Leto Atreides II

The Undertaker

Reminder that Immortal wins all his matchups.

This post was typed by Satan's hands btw

This post was typed by Satan's hands btw

DC somehow always asspulling wins against non marvel characters kinda reminds me of a short web novel I read, it even has the "no uh I counter that becuase [insert retarded bullshit], and the gory dead of the underdog"

You know, rewatching Gurren Lagann made me look at Imaishi's work, and apparently he did the Namco X Capcom opening. Nice.

ENTERRRRRR

List of BOUNDLESS Slayer feats

Made Microsoft kneel and buy his company to save them from Halo's stink

Most successful revival of an old IP, with three critically and consumer acclaimed games

Canonically the strongest of the GODLY trio and made LAMEtos and BITCHte his servants

Single-handedly makes Azathoth stay asleep out of fear

Makes the boogeyman check his bed for him

Found Waldo without trying

Knows how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop

Keeps Godzilla as a pet

Slew GOD himself for killing his pet rabbit

Is the reason why the DC cosmology is a flat pizza

Out pizza'd the hut

Bullied Cthulhu

Freed Master Chief from 343's clutches by sending him to the pearly gates

Turned SLUTana into his AI bitch

Can run on anything, even a calculator

Saved 4chud from hackers

I think we should set up a cytube so everyone here can witness the type of bullshit asspulls that goes on in TTGL

BOUNDLESS BEAST!!!!

I told you...

FIRE!
ICE STORM!
DIACUTE!
BRAIN DUMB!
JUGEMU!
BAYOEN! BAYOEN! BAYOEN!

I do love Aigis vs Kosmos a lot

Aigis now can be considered the top of the top in the Persona if not SMT verse with her beating up Joker with Satanael in the P3R DLC (Tho of course, its like an echo or dream of him, but still satanael.) before even getting EX Orgia mode.

Its super thematic with two robot girls with human souls.

youtube.com/watch?v=BsfJwMq9aQ0&ab_channel=Jag00 it would have a bad ass persona / orchestra ish vocal track that has the chorus go into overdrive as soon as Aigis goes all in.

And we get some fun drama once Aigis gets obliterated

be me

think Yahweh is the one true god, always has been

find out he was originally just another Canaanite deity

mfw Yahweh was basically Baal’s coworker before getting promoted

El was the big boss

Baal was the storm chad

Shahar and Shalim were out here running the dawn and dusk cycle

mfw Yahweh was just a minor regional deity before Israelites gave him a monopoly

ancient Israelites: "ok guys, Yahweh is supreme now"

still awkwardly leave traces of El and Asherah in early texts

mfw the Bible is just a heavily edited lorebook with retcons

fast forward to Christianity

Yahweh now has **two extra forms**

Jesus, the human DLC

The Holy Spirit, the vague ethereal patch update

mfw Christianity turned Yahweh into a three-in-one deal

see the Zeus Deus connection

realize even the Christian "God" title has Indo-European origins

mfw religion is just mythology with better branding

mfw theology is just an eternal game of divine rebranding

not even shitposting here. I think Reimu Vs Arle would go hard. does Arle have any feats though

You're telling me Yahweh killed everyone else in his Pantheon like Kratos did?

Y-You don't mean...

It is a bit of a shame that it is kinda hard to research cuz of the language barrier and unreleased games on the west.

But, she has fought two gods that threatened to destroy all worlds, ecolo and the creator, and beats up Satan all the time who also beat ecolo. all puyo worlds got merged in 7 and tetris by Ecolo, so the low multi scaling is solid.

The main puyo, Puyo Fever and puyo 7 worlds are all separate from the tetris world too.

Arle can teleport from between worlds (as seen in puyo fever and 7/tetris), mindhax, ignore all attacks for 4 seconds with arle shield and is spamable and her biggest wincon against Reimu is the seraphim orb, which can recreate all worlds at her desire.

So Arle just wont have anywhere to run away even if she uses Fantasy Nature to float out of the universe. (not that it helps her kill Arle either)

And she also fights people beyond time like the creator, so they got the same speed.
But it is a legit close matchup.

i mean you dont know if god killed other gods before announcing himself as the one and only god to the universe he created.

Technically, he, his son and the holy spirit are all one, so he solo'd his own pantheon by being the entire pantheon.

Yahweh was Kratos before Kratos even existed

My understanding is that Canaanites worshipped their polytheistic pantheon before the Israelites introduced their cult, and Yahweh, into it, and then syncretism happened as it always does. The verse in Exodus 6:3 is very "interesting" in light of this

and if carbuncle is with her, who has fought a lot of the fever cast and arle herself, it could also just turn Reimu into a sun like in the ending of puyo puyo sun.

Transmutation win. But of course, Reimu might be able to always dodge with fantasy nature.

The reliable wincon for Arle is the Seraphim Orb, using Arle Shield to ignore Reimu's daimaku long enough for her to activate it.

kills every other god

warps reality and rewrites it to make it so he was always the only god effectively wiping them from existence

reduces an infinite number of supreme creator gods to one

CHADsus? BEYOND BOUNDLESS

damn. who knew a little girl like her would be busted

Paganbros...how are supposed to compete with someone who can RETROACTIVELY erase our pantheon from reality as if our gods never existed at all?

All of CHADweh's antifeats don't count because they were from an earlier version where he wasn't near his later strength btw

someone who can, or someone who DID?

So when will Kratos retcon his entire mythology to make it so he was always the one true omnipotent god and no other god existed?

CHADsus Christ did before and he can do it again to solo your verse btw

1 don’t care parably DBZ

2 probably Yugi

3 probably Saber unfortunately

4 don’t know

5 Alucard fuck fate shit glazing

6 don’t care

7 Tou Hou

8 not sure

9 Joseph

10 Ike

11 don’t know

12 Lyn stomps

13 probably Tohru

14 don’t know

15 eve but Bayonetta could kick bother their asses

16 don’t know

17 dragon ball z guilty gear is glazed

18 Kos-mos has actually insane feats SMT for babies just has scaling of metaphysical stuff

19 Homura Umineko is glazed brainlet shit

20 don’t know

This is like if Batman killed the entire DC multiverse and then retconning the setting so he's was the Presence all along.

fake and cringe shit

doomfags can't even be original

Do not give DC any more ideas for batwank they might seriously consider please.

N-NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

low diffs your favorite hero

This list is 99% weebslop what the fuck

Thanos did that but became non canon afterwards.

God went from being a troon fucker, to a jobber paper tigger, to super saiyan Kratos

Okay...?

Well, what antifeats? Lol, we don't know anything. The Abrahamic God repudiated Baal and Asherah, forbade their worship, and rarely even spoke of the latter personally, rather referencing her idols. As early as Genesis 1:1 you get the idea that the Judeo-Christian God is the demiurge, and as early as Exodus you have a God-empowered human be demonstrably superior to the entire Egyptian pantheon, including Ra. The Abrahamic framework is wide enough that you could come up with anything.

Oh well that was just syncretism

Oh well that's just their interpretation

Oh well it's all a complex etymological soup of titles and names

Oh well Yahweh just gained power and turned himself into an omnipotent deity

Oh well the Canaanites were clearly offshoots who, through word of mouth and eroded cultism, kept Yahweh as a deity who simply fell out of favor

Etc. I don't see any conclusive proof of either interpretation, but it's clear that the cult that worshipped Yahweh, the Israelites, won out in the end

He's like Kratos if he somehow managed to rewrite reality to make himself the supreme creator deity and no other gods but him existed by erasing every pantheon from existence retroactively.

1 Ryu actually has really strong scaling with Gran/Djeeta Granblue and Fiora Xenoblade. But i think Goku still wins with superior Fortnite scaling and Jump Force being above other higher dimensional jump verses.
2 Sakura stomp imo
3 Saber does outscale, but its actually close even if canon vs canon
4 Play KOF 2002 its good
5 Poor Alucard. But will force Arcueid to use Archetype Earth for sure.
6 its a cool matchup no? would be cool if they had to team up to fight some hydra goons before fighting each other again
7 its really close but lean arle
8 high depends on what you give sakura, otherwise videl can fly faster than she can react and kick her neck back.
9 do lean joseph too
10 yeah, but its even closer than vs dimitri. Ike needs micaiah for the god amp
11 Seiya imo
12 Lyn indeed but would be cool af
13 Tohru can mindhax, and tiki has a history of being mindhaxed so yea
14 Ikki can come back from anything Magik can do even with wank Thor scaling then mindhax/atomizing her soul
15 eve? she has no way to know 2b's respawn
16 time hax match
17 do lean gohan unless you give GG the strive wank
18 do lean Kosmos too
19 Bernkastel shitstomps do want her to scare the fuck out of homura into being "human" again for a bit before being erased
20 likely cyclops if you give phoenix force all the outliers

that might actually happen ngl

What if Harambe is my favorite hero?

The Israelites making Yahweh their supreme god is the equivalent of Marvel keeping Thanos usurping TOAA canon. That's how absurd this is.

Jobs to the Bear that beat Kratos

Look up Doc Frankenstein, issue 6 when you get a chance. It's a fun take on this.

you need explicit "magic" to replicate flapping your wings or digging a hole

this is just deliberately disingenious NLF wank. the anime also shows things of that ilk bullshitting around the rules of the game so there's no reason to suggest otherwise - and even so, any effect caused by an explicit pokemon move would almost certainly be "magic" enough to work. is solgaleo wormholing everyone away to ultra space not "magic" enough either? there's like a billion forms of removal in yugioh that are just black holes or portals.

As far as I've read there isn't a definitive link. But the further you look into it, the more sources you see, and it just never fucking ends. I hate history

can become a god that erases your existence retroactively

Umineko is poorly written slop designed to make retards think they’re smart.

GOD is so powerful he is able to casually erase gods so hard, he retroactively affects Real life history

I-I am sorry god...

It got black boxed. Essentially even if Master Chief could get the shot off Doomguy could just nullify it with Saving Throw, which allows him to survive a lethal hit from any attack.

It is never too late to repent.

gameplay mechanics

lol what

Lowercase?

Literally retarded, the antimatter goes through Forerunner energy shielding.

Didn't Saving Throw have a cooldown period? Something like the Binary Rifle has two shots per magazine, so I'm not sure why Chief couldn't just shoot the Slayer again

it's nothing new. they used the wallrunning exploit to give Slayer a sizable speed advantage!

Saving Throw has two uses in 2016 and it slows down time + grants temporary invulnerability when it gets used.

If you're talking about the rocket thing he doesn't actually need a wall to catch up to his rockets. He can do it pretty easily with SR50 and can just barely manage it with SR40.

Is not even galaxy level

they specifically used wallrunning, but an exploit is an exploit

Are people seriously arguing Master Chef could beat Doom I don’t have to explain shit its Argent Energy Guy?

Death Battle is retarded for using footage of wallrunning but I don't think SR40 is an exploit. That's just straferunning normally.

Saint shiter wank and Umineshitko wank

generally speaking, if it's a coding oversight that the user is, well, "exploiting", then it's an exploit

Master Chef

He would easily beat that donkey the Doom Slayer

Those galaxies are universes btw

Hebrew Beyblades > Egyptian Card Games

Do you fedora tippers have to do this in every thread

People's understanding of things change as more info comes out yes

HOLY FUAAARRKKKK I'M SO POWERFUL I JUST EXPLODED 8 OUTERVERSES WITH AN ACCIDENTAL FART, SOMEONE STOP ME

Moses with a beyblade vs Atem with his monster spirits

BRAPtos...

I feel like Arcueid and Alucard have better matchups,but i can't think of some right now

just realized the rat survived

alucard vs alucard helsing is just the name
theyre not even princes of anything. Helsing is just another dracula

demitri's only connection is lol vampire

miriam should be vs shanoa.

Arcueid's only other notable matchup is like... saber.

since other gods other than the king of the jews are still worshipped he's literally not that

Alucard, maybe, Vampire Hunter D- albeit movie-only. And Alucard, from Netflix Castlevania too, but he more or less god stomps both of them. He's one of those

atheistroon melty

if you're a christian then it's pretty much true

Multiversal rat

what the fuck does that mean people who worship other gods exist even if you are a christian

atheistkeks can't admit Jesus Christ would solo their verse with no effort

Well Jesus is an actual historical figure that would crumple the paper that fiction is drawn and written on...

JOBsus

The nails used to pin Jesus on the cross would shred the paper your verse is printed on btw

It means that if you're a christian, you most likely don't believe that other gods are real. or Nirvana and the Buddhahood. Atheists will relay the notion that Yahweh was a minor Canaanite deity, to be met with the notion that Yahweh surpassed and eventually tyrannized the rest of the pantheon, retconning them from existence, by people who do believe in him, and don't believe in Samasara or anything related to the Trimurti

Well Jesus is an actual historical figure

...in my fictional mythology, forgot to specify

Romans literally documented his existence.

Jesus of Nazareth is perhaps the most well documented person of the respective time period. Atheist historians don't doubt that he existed, that he formed a cult that eventually led to Christianity AND that he was crucified

to be met with the notion that Yahweh surpassed and eventually tyrannized the rest of the pantheon, retconning them from existence, by people who do believe in him

why would people who believe in the king of the jews think that? that's not part of any version of the christian canon. and it would be an admission that it didn't really create the world and that other gods exists. you aren't making any sense, you are saying absurd heresy to make a point in christianity's favour

This fight makes me sad because there’s a lot of cool moments but it’s overall a disappointment despite being much better animated than the other 3D fights this season.

Way too one sided. Yes, the fight is a stomp but the animation doesn’t need to match that. All of Chief’s moves do no real damage and Doomguy is always immediately bouncing back from whatever he does.

Not as many Halo weapons depicted as I would’ve liked.

Area is also pretty one sided. It would’ve been cool to see some Covenant jobbing before they get dragged to Hell, which at that point makes it obvious Doomguy’s winning in his home turf.

Death happened pretty suddenly and was too over the top. Glory kills are quick and simple. A real glory kill on Chief would’ve ended with Chief getting cut in half or the neck snap. Stuff like chopping off his limbs, blowing him up, and then stabbing the head is trying too hard.

This whole fight felt like it was pretty blatantly appeasing the Doomfags who wanted this rematch badly. Chief barely has any spotlight, doesn’t get any good hits in, and dies in a way that fits an MK fatality more than a Doom glory kill.

there are literally NO documentations from his supposed time, only stuff written much later when christianity was already in full swing. christroons lie once more.

You saw it happen ITT. so much for seeing is believing

using game mechanics and exploits for stats in 2025

How do they always find a way to do something retarded?

bait used to be believable, like Jeezus

I'm guessing they wanted to get through it as quickly as possible

Death happened pretty suddenly

Agreed 100%, the lack of use from Forerunner weapons was especially jarring. I thought there'd be more to it when Slayer used his hook on Chief, like maybe he brings out the Incineration Cannon or something

Maybe?

Jesus was as real as Kratos is.

NOOOOOOOOOOO JESUS CAN'T BE REAL HE CAN'T SOLO MY FICTIONAL VERSE AND ONE SHOT MY CHARACTERS WHO BLOW UP GIGAVERSES JESUS JOBS TO WOOD AND NAILS IT'S NOT FAIR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Why are atheistcucks like this?

3 weeks of yabba dabba doo posting

reddit atheists being Gaylords

Wow just incredible

Unironically boundless cross that solos composite fiction

I'm already missing Kylefags and Simonfags, and Haltards being self-important trying to insert themselves into the discussion. And 12-D Master Chief and multiversal Doom Slayer

so much for [thing christians say]

yup.

Santa Claus is real and solos fiction btw

This is just Krasura 2.0 except Asura isn't designated punch merchant featsman, and Kratos lore nonsense is actually backed up (and it doesn't matter because it wasn't used because even just his mid ball feats were enough to stomp).

People who relay ideas in that manner aren't interested in a discussion. It would be like bringing up the greek myth where Zeus was nearly usurped by his peers but one of the Hecatoncheires showed up to save him and the main takeaway being powerscaling and shitposting but never registering the meaning of the people rallying for their beloved leader against usurpers. Similarly, the solemnity of Jesus' sacrifice is also lost to them, even though most atheists can just appreciate it for what it is. Maybe it's just a people problem

No wonder why Darkseid stands no chance against him...

NOOOOOOOOOOO KRATOS CAN'T BE REAL HE CAN'T SOLO MY FICTIONAL VERSE AND ONE SHOT MY CHARACTERS WHO BLOW UP GIGAVERSES KRATOS JOBS TO BEARS AND STONE PILLARS IT'S NOT FAIR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm surprised they didn't get into a hodgepodge of things like Monitors vaporizing Hunters but doing very little to Master Chief or that infamous novel feat where he lifted a granite block the size of a Warthog, or wonky mechanics like how Spartans with weaker armor can survive MAC rounds and glassing beams in Halo Wars

Bigfoot as well

OH MY SCIENCE DOOMSLAYER DID YOU JUST KILL MY MASTER CHIEF IN A BRUTAL WAY??!!! THATS HECKIN DISRESPECTFUL DONTCHA KNOW NOT MY MASTER CHIEF YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE I HATE LE GORY DEATHS ON MY SHOW DEATH BATTLE!!!

Shut the fuck up Hayden you know Halsey did not say that

Give me the REAL chad vs chad mech battle.

Composite Shinji against Composite Koji. Composite Unit-01 against Composite Mazinger (No Mazinkaiser, no ZERO).

The OG Super Robot Pilot against the Deconstruction Robot Pilot

Why Shinji and Kouji though?

The "deconstruction" robot pilot

There's that deconstruction meme again.

Hulksisters!?!?!?

it's been proven bears would body gorrillas, and my favorite hero while nerfed took on a bear. there for he would no diff a gorilla.

Arcueid's only other notable matchup is like... saber.

Shinobu from Monogatari could work.
Captain Planet if you want to go for the "they're technically the earth" connection.
Morrigan is a popular-ish one from what i've seen online but it's iffy at best.

They seem to be very comfortable with animating stomps now, after years of insisting it was more entertaining to create an even fight regardless of star difference.

Better MU than Ash.

I lost to Yugi....maybe if I had someone inside me then I'll be a better trainer.

Takes damage from spamming ice attacks
She doesn’t make it past Cirno

Morrigan is for Bayo
Morrigan is queen, not princess/prince like Arcueid and Alucard

but i guess i would not mind if they end up making arcueid morrigan

ffs its annoying changing setting to allow downloads

that was early arle.
Cirno is jack frost food

They didn't even do an Energy Sword vs Crucible clash which is the MOST FUCKING OBVIOUS THING TO DO. It doesn't matter how they do it, they could even have DoomSlayer slam the Crucible down and break through the Energy Sword to showcase his superior strength or the weapon having more wattage or whatever, and they missed out on it. Instead they just have Chief drop the sword midway through the fight and it's never seen again, what a colossal letdown.

try to "discuss" with godkeks

REEEE MY GOD BEATS ALL YOUR GODS AND SUPERMAN AND COMPOSITE FICTION HE JUST DOES, OK? NOO FUCK BUDDHA

...derizer.

They are just the same thing as the most annoying kind of powerscalers, the ones who just make up more and more outlandish claims, completely ignore what everyone else says, and try to bring up their shit no matter the context

What you don't like about others is a reflection of yourself

Tetsuya from Great Mazinger was already a deconstruction to Koji.

Composite Koji stomps.

MOTHMAAAAN! WHERE IS MOTHMAN?!

1. Goku wins
2. Yugi wins
3. Lucina wins since Saber is jobber
4. Bison clears
5. Arcueid wins
6. This is pretty tough to call. I'd like to say Big Boss since he's better fighter with stronger body, but depends on what kind of bullshit SHIELD/Aylien Tech Fury has access to which BB would struggle to counter
7. Reimu wins, Touho's are insanely busted
8. Sakura wins since Videl is jobber just like her father.
9. Lupin struggles with base human Zenigate, Joseph wins.
10. I'd love if Guts won but going by their feats Ike probably wins this
11. Sailor moon clears. Saint Seiya powerscaling can't keep up with how insane Usagi is in the manga
12. Lyndis wins since Kenshin is jobber
13. Not familiar enough with their franchises to call it either way
14. Magik wins
15. 2B wins
16. Diavolo clears
17. Baiken wins because Gohan is gigantic jobber and Future Gohan is even more pathetic
18.Kos-mos Wins
19. Bernkastel wins and humiliates Homu
20. Cyclops wins because of Mutie Privilege

Would it really be fair to use composite? Shinji doesn't have much side material to pull from. Would it even be fair in a composite outside of crossovers for him to use ZERO either? ZERO was the antagonist in his manga.

Why did they give Mothman abs?!

Cryptids...Legends...Myths...BEASTS...

My FUARKING heroes!!

Yugi

Sakura

No one would want this. Sakura isn't a series about relying on monsters to battle and doesn't fit with Yugi in any other way than the fact she uses cards. There is no franchise comparison in the fandom either because CCS is a romance/slice of life.

Simon vs Kyle is next

Discussion about this matchup has compelled me to go rewatch Simon's show, but has strangely not made me any more interested in reading Kyle's comics. I wonder why.

Because no matter how good or compelling any Marvel/DC comic gets, it'll always be invalidated by the next story or so. Just look at Immortal Hulk and the very next Hulk run.

Actually, now that I say that. DC is much better with this than Marvel because of the rebooted universes every several years so characters have higher chances of having more definitive developments. Marvel stayed the same universe (disregarding spinoff universes) since the start. Peter's the same old Spider-Man from the 60's.

My heroes... My nightmares!!!

Post Mothman destroying a planet.

What does Kosmos have? Not really familiar with her

Every character posted in OP is a weak cuck

*solos every other FPS protagonist at the same time*

KEEP SIX OF MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS' NAMES, OUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH!!!!!!

John Halo and Noble Six would kill this bitch effortlessly

Those bitches die to pistol bullets, Samus would OBLITERATE them.

Samus gets hit with an overcharged plasma pistol. You know what would happen?

Sabersissy...

Is that rat a reference to something? I'm not super into Doom or Halo, so the only thing I can think of is Cancer Mouse from Civvie11.

My stomp match was a stomp?! Noooooooo!!! It’s not faaaair!!!!

I can’t believe Halojeets are crying over this. No one cared when Homelander got bullied.

Part of the appeal of OmniLander was Homelander getting put in his place for being a bully and a manchild. It's like you're new here or something

Captain Planet if you want to go for the "they're technically the earth" connection.

Kek, yeah, that's pretty funny

Stuff like chopping off his limbs, blowing him up, and then stabbing the head is trying too hard

WATCH OUT!
GOTTA GET, BACK TO THE PAST, SAMURAI JACK

SHIT SHITattle.

Bring me Yujiro...

MoeBITCH btw forgot to mention that

Let's all be civil here.

TROONhoubro....

Raoh deserves better opponent

Would Yujiro be able to copy Hokuto like Amiba did? I believe Yujiro also has higher base physical stats than Raoh but the technique gap may be too strong here.

She's a robot with nanomachines that allow her to morph her body into melee and ranged weapons, though she mostly uses it for sci-fi guns. She has an ability that drags the game's Shadow analogues (Gnosis are legitimately actually just Persona's shadows, right down to the Jungian stuff) into the real world so they can be fought because she's an android designed to hunt them, but it's probably not very applicable unless she fights a dimension jumper. Her on-screen feats include wiping out a space fleet with a wave-motion cannon. She has a blue-eyed super mode where she calls on the soul of Mary Magdalene that was installed in her.

Has Yujiro anything to stop Raoh from instakilling him with Hokuto bullshit? Souther proved that unique physiology can canonically render some of the Hokuto moves ineffective, but barring something like that I struggle to see how Yujiro can avoid going HIGEBU before exploding since Raoh would only need to land 1 hit to win

isn't she a metroidvania protagonist

Yujiro's fight with Kaku Kaioh showed he has a very strong instinct for techniques that can actually harm him; he avoided the supercharged shaori punch on pure instinct. I feel like he would be able to tell that getting struck by Raoh would be fatal and focus on dodging.

She might lose an inconsequential sliver of health but she would one shot him before he ever tags her.

Metroid Prime is an FPS

Stop me if this sounds like downplay, but I've been reading the nu Doom codexes and checked out DB's reasoning for saying the Crucible is equivalent to 1000+ Tsar Bombas all at once.
The Return of Dr. Samuel Hayden - Part II says

Samuel devised a method to utilize the [Crucible] as an Argent conductor, a process that would in time produce the miracle of synthetic, man-made Argent energy, restoring the production of Argent energy to Earth.

Does this not imply that the Crucible was instrumental for the production of more Argent Energy, rather than the source of the total sum of Earth's energy grid? Clearly DB's stat sheet made it so Doom Slayer didn't need to pack a nuclear knife to kill Master Chief, so don't think I'm trying to overturn the verdict- LOTTA sensitive people in these threads

Probably, but I doubt he would survive musou tensei to be able to learn that.

Roboute Guilliman might be a funny one on a contrast level.

As much as I do love Raoh, he has no chance at all against Primarch since those guys are actual demigods. Would be too unfair in Roboute's favor

BEASTS!!!!!

Would Yujiro be able to copy Hokuto like Amiba did? I believe Yujiro also has higher base physical stats than Raoh but the technique gap may be too strong here.

The opposite way around. Raoh on his deathbed can spread light across the entire world by splitting the sky. For skills, Raoh has brute force (which Yujiro quite likes too) and his hokuto shinken which is magic pressure points. It's too ridiculously different to anything in Baki's setting to reliably say he's more skilled while Yujiro has much more knowledge of physics, biology and even psychology to know what to exploit in a fight along with many more ways to do things while all of Raoh's would just lead to the same thing essentially. They just aren't compatible. Baki may be ridiculous, but it's ridiculous for its concepts and more grounded setting. It doesn't throw magic powers, even the imagination stuff is based on an extremely exaggerated idea of the placebo effect and influences on others.
That was just it though, he dodged. He sensed Kaku was very strong. It shows his excellent instincts but that's all it was. He could probably tell the same with Raoh but that doesn't mean he'd automatically win. Kaku still landed punches on Yujiro anyway and Yujiro still won and was winning hard when he got serious.

Eh, Roboute is one of the ones who doesn't have a claim to being super powerful. He's not a daemon prince, and he doesn't have any particularly weird bullshit in his pocket. Chances are, he'd probably lose.

accidentally posted the zangief image in a different thread I meant for another in an entirely different board

Forget the Zangief image it doesn't mean anything here.

If Raoh lands anything Yujiro's dead. It's been a long time since I read FotNS, but I do remember a part in the first fight between Ken and Raoh where they hold each other's hands to keep them from reaching pressure points until Toki lil bros them so they don't both die. I don't remember if this little quirk was addressed or soft retconned later on; is it possible Yujiro might just grab Raoh's hand and stop it?

Assuming Yujiro's body/physique is normal enough for Hokuto to work normally: Raoh stomps
Assuming it's different enough that Raoh can't instagib Yujiro (ala Souther it werks but you'd need to compensate for the heart being on different side affecting the pressure point bs), the fight is lot more even and boils down to whether Yujiro is able to put Raoh down before he figures a way to apply Hokuto bullshit on Yujiro successfully like Ken did to Souther

Every Primarch is still superhuman giant with vastly different physiology. Roboute (and Lorgar) being runts of the litter and little bitches compared to someone like Horus or Papa Wolf are still far beyond base Humans. They all get super strength, reflexes, durability, intelligence and psychic bullshit even though some Primarchers are better at those things than others

Souther still had a workaround by just knowing it was in reverse. Yujiro has some abnormal physiology but it's not to the point you could assume literal pressure point magic won't work.

the fight is lot more even

There is absolutely nothing even about it. The best physical feat in Baki to this day is Yujiro's stopping the earthquake with a punch but there are several things in HNK that are beyond that by leaps and bounds. Baki does not operate on the same scale whatsoever. Raoh ends him in one punch every single time. Speedwise, the sonic barrier is still a big deal in Baki. Characters do not just "scale above" in speed like that as there's still techniques made entirely for passing it.

Raoh and Kenshiro are guys who can effortlessly tear through concrete and shatter steel, but they're also guys who get pierced by crossbow bolts and harpoons, a lot like Yujiro himself

If Raoh scales to Kenshiro, he can tank literal skyscraper falling on top of him

That only happened in the movie, but in that movie Raoh fought Kenshiro so hard the city around them started crumbling and unlike in main canon where they fought to a draw, Raoh just fucking won and knocked Kenshiro out and left.

That happen in the manga?

Going by Jojo, DB has referenced the OVA as canon so unless it's specifically stated it's noncanon it's a feat

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I don't mind that, I prefer their broad approach to canon anyway most of the time. It's just that in that movie, Raoh and Kenshiro's fight was destroying a city as a side effect and Raoh won the fight definitively instead of drawing with Kenshiro like in canon, so he'd be stronger in-narrative there.

Death Battle would probably say Yujiro is Mach Fuck because of that famous panel that's actually referring to his intuition rather than his speed, and try to calc the earthquake thingy. And this isn't me saying Yujiro wins. Just doesn't mean I have to use their method

I'm tired. I don't get how Death Battle arrives at conclusions anymore. It used to be you could just assumed maximized stats, But now they are actually just using gameplay contrivances when it benefits the character. Might as well say Kratos is invincible while in the middle of a chest opening animation.

But Raoh should be able to just beat Bobby into a paste with his better stats. Pre-daemon Angron's body was falling apart trying to hold up the foot of a Warhound Titan, and that's probably where Bobby's limit is. The environmental destruction alone when Kenshiro and Raoh dueled is probably higher than that.

Gotta love Cap

I just hope we would see something silly like vid related youtube.com/watch?v=dvc4b2fTr9U during Raoh's fight as HnK homage

Well no, because the Crucible was literally the last form of Argent energy on Earth at that point.

I'm not so sure about that. The codex goes:

Believing it possible to solve the energy crisis which now devastated the planet, Dr. Hayden sought to invent a method of Argent-Synthesis, a synthetic replication that could recreate the high-yield capability of Argent energy.

With the destruction of the Argent energy across the solar system, all that remained of Argent existed now within the Crucible, the fabled Hell artifact which Dr. Hayden had acquired on Mars.

Knowing full well the Crucible's hidden power, Samuel devised a method to utilize the artifact as an Argent conductor, a process that would in time produce the miracle of synthetic, man-made Argent energy, restoring the production of Argent energy to Earth.

The phrasing does seem to imply the Crucible itself was the basis for Hayden's solution to the energy crisis, rather than the solution itself

>With the destruction of the Argent energy across the solar system, all that remained of Argent existed now within the Crucible, the fabled Hell artifact which Dr. Hayden had acquired on Mars.

Nigga you retarded? It literally says it right here. The Curcible was literally their super battery.

Not quite. It says the Crucible was the last source, and then says the Crucible was what Hayden needed to solve the energy crisis. We know from the previous codex that Hayden flaunted it before the world leaders, but we don't know if it singlehandedly powered the entirety of Earth's energy grid somehow. Like it's just a holistic, planetary power plant or something

Not quite

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So you’re just illiterate or? Argent energy was what was being used to power Earth in 2016 and its destruction caused the energy crisis again. The Crucible was the last power source of Argent in existence. It’s literally spelled out for you.

What's spelled out to us is that the Crucible was used to produce synthetic Argent Energy, and that's how one fixes an Argent Drought!

no. its just a funneh

We disagree in a few but i am glad you replied to it