The two BEYOND BOUNDLESS KINGS that solo fiction.
Death Battle
All string theory says is that one dimensional strings can move around and vibrate in 11 higher dimensions. The 1D strings obviously don't physically occupy 11 dimensions if they're just one dimensional objects. Human beings are 3D objects that can move around in four different dimensional axes (3 spatial and 1 temporal) but that doesn't make us 4D things just because we can move forward on an additional fourth dimension's time axis since we're still 3D things that don't physically occupy four dimensions.
For this same reason, 3D humans wouldn't suddenly become 11D if string theory was proven valid tomorrow because this doesn't mean we now occupy 11 dimensional space in the same way 3D objects don't occupy 4D space just because they can move in a temporal dimension.
Powerscalers confuse being able to move around in extra dimensions with actually physically occupying extra spatial dimensions. These two different scenarios are mutually exclusive and shouldn't be conflated with one another.
threads keep getting deleted
That's been 4 threads, hasn't it? Why are the jannies so mad?
OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
3 - 0
Some fucking moron is going to post that pic of Kratos being surprised by Jesus not wanting to fight.
What would really happen is Jesus threatens hell for not worshiping him, in which case Kratos gets annoyed and leaves.
What could also happen is Jesus goes Armageddon mode, which has them two duke it out.
Athena vs Bison is still peak
What the hell is you taking bout, quantum cat?
Kill yourself listtroon.
Did we try making the OP Anon Babble related, or..?
One of the ones that got deleted was Batman vs Iron Man.
ur so mad :)
Death Battle said they would be using characters at their strongest, but they didn't use Batman's prep time. He would've had a contingency plan for Iron Man. He would've hacked Iron Man's suit before he tried putting it on.
Last thread contained a discussion about string theory and extra dimensions.
Kratos is bros with Jesus and will be gifting him presents during his birth
I know a comic/cartoon character that can fight Popeye fairly.
Only an enlightened Kratoscholar is intelligent and well educated enough to make this kind of well thought out and researched post.
they gave Batman prep time during his fight with Black Panther which is why they brought up Batman making a gun to counter Black Panther
They did give Batman a parked Batmobile on top of the one batarang that time, but that's faaaaar from his full arsenal and prep capability.
...and his name is Desperate Dan
That's not Alley Oop. Here, listen to his theme.
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Jesus got fucked by some roman soldiers, do you really think he'd be able to handle Kratos?
His powerset isn't made for fighting
Generals are frowned upon
Why do so many scalers not partake in the franchises that they scale? Why are Archie Sonic scalers seemingly the worst about this?
Archie Sonic is a soap opera with furries. It takes the worst of capeshit and tries to make it appealling for furfags they pander to, who would actually want to read it?
It's to avoid cognitive dissonance. I imagine it's difficult to wank a character to FTL, watch the show, then get to a scene where the character is struggling to outrun a gazelle.
Sweet Baby Inc would never allow this to happen.
Jesus has precog and passive empathetic hax backed with power from an omnipotent god
He also has transmutation that's stronger than Popeye's.
Alley Oop is for Captain Caveman.
Which franchise is more KWAB
immortal
nothing the heroes can do can kill her
not even the writers know how to kill her
Name one character who can beat her.
Impregnate her.
Sonic the hedgehog
Joseph Joestar
Can shoot lasers out of his eyes
Can fly
Punches can sometimes kill an average person
Name one character who can beat him.
My mom!
I actually did read it, I wouldn't exactly recommend it, but it has some good moments in it. What spurred me to read it was that I found out about the SGW and that it erased some characters I had passing interest in (I liked the concept of Hope Kintobor).
I'm not so sure. My idea is that they are just attracted to the idea of power. Sonic scalers in particular also have Mario and Goku shaped chips in their shoulders.
Forgot pic.
The cat that scratched Saitama
Samurai Jack could possibly kill her.
Have they ever done a fight of two big fishes in small ponds?
Izzy O'Toole pistol whips him in the back of the head when he ain't looking.
endless reddit atheism le god vs kratos matchups or cúck posting
Just send these threads to Anon Babble already
Blah blah blah, Simon transcends dimensions, cope
Breaks through cause, effect and fate, scream cry of life resounds in the galaxy!
-Still, more.
Engrave the feelings of a friend in this body, and turn infinite darkness into light!
-That's it.
Greater powerful than stars and galaxies.
Greater power than dimensions and time.
cat picture
There's a place with a thread twice as good. Kinda dead but none of this random religion discussion. We haven't had a cuck post in a day or two now but I think he got a ban.
Simon vs Kyle is just another Spongebob vs Aquaman
There's only 2 places like that, 3 if you're talking about a REALLY dead place
One of every Digimon vs 1 million lions.
If you are talking about TTGL then he is bigger than 11D structures.
so it's Crash Bandicoot level
What stuff is Crash doing?
I don't renember Crash flinging universes like shuriken....
dimensional stuff in Twinsanity
What is Kyle doing against this?
turning it to confetti
confetti beam
True but we're dealing with fiction. An extradimensional character is typically godlike and will usually also have the power to exert influence across dimensions. Hell a character doesn't even need to be extradimensional to have that attack potency. Zeno is 3D but he can casually wipe a timeline.
Stops Simon the second he touches it
Easy stomp. Better luck next time.
A drill breaks through walls
Show me Simon breaking a wall that is literally impossible to break and that has God behind it.
Having precog means nothing. He'll be able to see Kratos punching him in the future, doesn't mean he'll be able to dodge
Batkek and Batman broke it and Batkek was dealing with star level attacks later.
Only if that extradimensional character actually physically occupies extra spatial dimensions.
Most so called higher dimensional characters behave like normal 3D objects.
Anyone who’s planet level or above.
Simon always does the impossible, ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA
String theory is a jobber hypothesis that's losing credibility every passing day anyways. I don't see why powerscalers cling onto it.
String theory is string level
It like makes too much sense.
String theory is one thing.
But, super string theory is next level.
Gurren Lagann's cosmology is mostly based on it
Give us thragg vs zod already you know you want it
They won't let you know this but Kratos invented string theory btw
...using the physics Doomguy invented.
Master chief would never hurt a fellow soldier and doomguy would not fall for thinking chief was a demon
same argument everytime
wasn't this disputed already
Doom Guy had wall running
If Mario ever fights again he gets BLJ
If Link fights again he gets Infinite Sword glitch
What other glitches/exploits should we expect? I want to see Gordon Freeman Bunny Hopping in a fight
pic related is 100% canonically biblical
DO THE IMPOSSIBLE SEE THE INVISIBLE
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
TOUCH THE UNTOUCHABLE BREAK THE UNBREAKABLE
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
Sonic collapsing reality because of 06 glitches.
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List of BOUNDLESS Slayer feats
Made Microsoft kneel and buy his company to save them from Halo's stink
Most successful revival of an old IP, with three critically and consumer acclaimed games
Canonically the strongest of the GODLY trio and made LAMEtos and BITCHte his servants
Single-handedly makes Azathoth stay asleep out of fear
Makes the boogeyman check his bed for him
Found Waldo without trying
Knows how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop
Keeps Godzilla as a pet
Slew GOD himself for killing his pet rabbit
Is the reason why the DC cosmology is a flat gay pizza
Out pizza'd the hut
Bullied Cthulhu
Freed Master Chief from 343's clutches by sending him to the pearly gates
Turned SLUTana into his AI bitch
Can run on anything, even a calculator
Saved 4chud from hackers
Alucard is getting raped again
That sword? One shots your verse.
WTF, first god is the original kratos, and now this weird xianxia shit?
Only one man has the power
What is the most OP character you know that is never brought up in power scaling discussions just because the series he is from is not popular enough?
for context
Kanchomé traps his opponents in an illusionary world where he can completely control their hearts and minds into believing anything he wants. This control is so complete that even if the opponent knows it's an illusion they can't break free from it. Even though first seen in chapter 298, Kanchomé had gained and used the spell by 294, shown defeating Zatch and Kiyo on a practice match
Mahākāla is a Sanskrit bahuvrihi of mahā "great" and kāla "time/death", which means "beyond time" or death.
Both Mahākāla and Kālī represent the ultimate destructive power of Brahman and they are not bounded by any rules or regulations. They have the power to dissolve even time and space into themselves, and exist as the Void at the dissolution of the universe. They are responsible for the dissolution of the universe at the end of each kalpa. They are also responsible for annihilating great evils and great demons when other gods, devas, and even Trimurtis fail to do so. Mahākāla and Kālī annihilate men, women, children, animals, the world, and the entire universe without mercy because they are Kala or Time in the personified form, and Time is not bound by anything, and Time does not show mercy, nor does it wait for anything or anyone.
So will Kratos scale to beings beyond time and space once he gets to the Hindu pantheon?
when? does Simon resist transmutation?
It's funny how ancient hindu theologians talk like powerscalers today
STTGL is a virtual quantum entity, you can't harm it conventionally
hindu mythology is basically ancient DBZ just like greek mythology is ancient capeshit
Alright homelander got his stomp humiliation to omniman. Now what would be a good match up were he can win?
Have you ever reaz the Mahabharata? It's basically battle anime.
beyond time
space and time are intertwined so they would be beyond space as well
being beyond time and space means being above all spatial and temporal dimensions
Hindu gods were transcending dimensionality before dimensionality was even formally invented
They were setting up Ruby’s eyes as being her kryptonite but since RWBY changed ownership now who knows if that’s still a thing
Speaking of Greek mythology, I’m curious: do you think Greek storytellers knew a lot of their myths were fake? Because stories of guys like Heracles, no matter how far they’re passed down, HAD to originate from some guy’s imagination, right? Was he making shit up, and everyone just believed him? Or did he (and every other teller of Greek legend) just get some schizo vision that they thought came from the gods?
I think they believed it.
Myths come into existence in the desire to explain the world.
Now philosophers, like the ancient Greek ones may not necessarily think so because philosophy is designed to dispell myths.
Also, not the same anon.
Just someone that hung around Anon Babble for awhile.
I think we're officially asking questions beyond the scope of power scaling.
Ancient Greeks regularly climbed Mount Olympus and weren't surprised when Zeus wasn't there so they didn't take their myths 100% literally.
All of the cosmic wank concepts used by powerscalers come from religion
the wank hierarchy from weakest to strongest probably goes:
Physics (finite biggaton calcs)
Math (ZFC set theory)
Philosophy (dualistic and platonic transcendence)
Religion (absolute infinite, ultimate reality, transcendental divinity, recursive cosmology with infinitely regressing layers of reality)
Atheistbros...why are our verses so WEAK?
>Can run on anything, even a calculator
Wouldn't this actually be a knock against Slayer?
Notice it goes from reason and logic to schizo nonsense when you go up the wank hierarchy.
god is the original kratos,
QRD?
I think powerscalers fail to understand abstract concepts shouldn't be used to describe, understand or even measure concrete things.
Anything beyond Physics is unprovable bunk.
whole premise of his games is based on religious mythologies
This is why KINGtos is so strong btw
Most of the Greek heroes were probably real people who were divinized and their mythology developed from that. Even the (some of the) Greek philosopher's felt this was the case.
For example, the Iliad, even back then, was understood to be a romanticized account of the war between the early Greeks and Troy. Not unlike how the chinese viewed the Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Psychology should be on that list ranked near Philosophy since Jungian archetypes are very similar to Plato's theory of forms.
Yet Physics is dependent on philosophy to even appear to be coherent
Kratosisters....
That's science in general
Big Rigs' infinite backwards acceleration.
It's a metaphor although a literal reading of the book of Revelation would be quite something to see
They'd fight to a standstill or go 100 rounds to a split draw or something where they're both strong.
no it's just finite accelerating infinitely, the acceleration itself isn't infinite
Yet [philosophical subjective-perspective bullshit]
Shut the fuck up. If a feat isn’t quantifiable then any argument depending on it is useless.
Or is it?!
Pain and pleasure are unquantifiable
Yet they are undeniably useful for arguments
That is just copium trying to rationalize your hero jobbing to singular triangular circle
Powerscale your hero’s pleasure level
Shut the fuck up. If a feat isn’t quantifiable then any argument depending on it is useless.
That is retarded, by that logic things that can't be quantified are useless, like emotions.
one shots your religious cosmology
Sorry, but abstract ideas job to vacuum decay.
black holes can destroy information
FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK there goes all verses based on abstract concepts.
You're saying black holes can kill concepts?
Space and time break down and stop functioning inside a black hole's event horizon, does that count?
If you cannot prove your character can lift, say, a billion tons, then they do not belong in any conversation being compared to characters who can.
B-but pain tolerance and emotions cannot be quantified!
And are also generally useless in the context of accurately measuring how powerful a fictional character is, with very few extreme and specific exceptions.
what if he can lift 999,999,999 tons?
Black holes can also create entire universes with their own space time (in effect creating the concept of space and time) if you accept black hole cosmology.
so I just found this out. ya kyle might be in trouble
Still lower than Kyle's scaling
black hole cosmology theory means our universe may be inside a black hole inside a bigger gigaverse. but not every black hole should be assumed to have this inherent property even within that framework
source?
a recursive series of black holes with universes inside each one like those russian toy dolls
What the fuck R>F layers are REAL???
Lol? Mind hax characters always fuck over unga bunga flying bricks if they don't have resistances, that is more than "very few extremes and specific exceptions".
it's just a theory, pal
Takaba from Jujutsu Kaisen he had to sit out the sukuna fight to make it fair
*wins*
it depends on who's faster on the draw. everyone has a plan until 300lbs of brick slams against em at Mach 33
Congratulations on completely misunderstanding my entire point. You’re jumping in a Quantifiable Feats vs Unquantifiable Statements discussion, idiot. A psychic character mindraping someone is still a feat.
Why hasn't anyone used black hole cosmology to make their verse gigaversal and beyond fiction yet?
Because it’s retarded
Solos your verse
So more reason for people to use it.
the most generic looking isekai protagonist imaginable
Him being overpowered won’t make anyone care about Not!Kirito#1962
Viego
Kratos hasn’t encountered one yet so that narrative hasn’t been discovered by the retard Gigawankers
do you think this match was picked specifically because Kyle is a comic artist who likes mechas or out of spite from Ben vs Hal
Post characters that canonically destroy a multiverse
If there are any Drawfags here I’d like someone to draw all of the characters that have lost to DC in Death Battle laying on the ground shouting “No Simon, that’s DC! They’ll kill you!” while Simon walks towards Kyle, saying “Who the hell do you think I am!?”
a shota(her ancient husband btW) could nodif her womb
All I’m seeing is more and more evidence that Simon gapes Kyle and the only thing Kyle has is Swank.
isn't this quite literally how DC's universe functions according to death battle
DC universes all share the same source wall and occupy the same space, they just occupy different brane frequencies.
Simon should've fought Rodimus
yeah I'm just pointing this out because gurren lagann's cosmology takes inspiration from the brane model of string theory
the universe is actually run by Liebnizian Monads that even the Xeelee just try to ignore
Uh oh materialistbros
Passively destroys an infinite amount of universes just by existing, just to recreate them and destroy them again for eternity
Asriel Dreemurr, you must put an end to this monster...
Isn't she an omnipresent lovecraftian nightmare
Can’t wait to watch this get animated.
doesn't just wipe every universe instantly
Isn’t the whole point of that game’s story that the princess and the MC are stuck in a time loop by some outside force and are forced to kill each other forever and can’t do shit about it? Why do retards try to powerscal—
Wait, it’s vague nonsense, that’s perfect wank material for powerscalers. Of course…
You can wank all timeloops to be universal by this logic. People confuse altering reality with destroying reality too often.
I have a hypothesized, unproven series of events that goes something like:
Ben loses, trigger butthurt Benfags
they decide enough is enough an want to put an end to DC's non-Marvel winning streak
rather than picking Hal again, they chose Kyle because he's the White Lantern
White is the super special Lantern color, so he must be the strongest
search for a mega OP character who would stomp those DC fuckheads
but they still want to make it at least somewhat thematic
willpower, OP, successors, mecha - oh wait, Simon from Gurren Lagann!
make a thumbnail, post it on Reddit and proclaim that Simon is the best chance at ending DC's non-Marvel winning streak
It catches on because others were sick of DC's dominance, or they like the themes and "animation potential," and maybe the Brandon Yates song had something to do with it too.
How is a 3D wall supposed to contain someone who can move in 11 different dimensional axes anyways?
The point of the game's story is that the Princess is a world ending monstrosity whose existence cannot be tolerated and that she must be put a stop to so everyone can live happily ever after in a world without death and suffering. Ergo we must find characters powerful enough to defeat her.
NarratorSCHOLAR btw if that matters
Fake news.
3D
2D wall
If Simon wins, it might be the very first time a DC character has lost against an anime character in death battle
I'm guessing the wall has special hax properties instead of just relying on physics via dimensionality.
considering Simon has probability missiles, do you think Kyle would get blasted in the face if he tried to do what Hal did
Don't fear, this thread is under my protection now.
Would this fight break the internet?
Could your hero defeat a BBC?
i agree
They cant though, the information is preserved in a two-dimensional area of singularity at the surface of the black hole
it would just be a bunch of feminists whinning about how toxic masculinity Duke is
KINGtos is the BOUNDLESS BEAST who SOLOS ALL OF FICTION. He transcends his feats infinitely. He transcends his lore infinitely. KINGtos is the only character who transcends fiction completely.
SHITTos
That's not Asura. Asura is the true boundless being.
What do you mean? Ladies love Duke!
All of what you said but plus one and it's Spawn instead of Kratos.
How about
Uh...
KEKtos is the BITCHLESS BITCH who SOLOS ALL OF FICTION'S LAUNDRY. He transcends the laundry slowly. He jobs to the weakest character in his lore swiftly. KEKtos is the only character who jobs to all fiction completely.
Reminder, a BBC kneels to pic related.
This dude kneels to a toothbrush.
Unironically dies to Asriel or Chara who have actual conbat experience to back up their multi timeline level attacks
GOLD
Mold
The weaker Kratos's feats become the stronger his lore gets.
ENTER
I can fix it!
Kratos looks like that and says this.
simon fags are like when naruto fans claimed Guy had 4th dimensional punches
Reminder that anything faster than a Honda Oddysey can blitz Dante and Vergil.
Dante’s flown fast enough to breeze through the cosmos.
And yet he still gets outrun by a car? That cosmos Mundus created is tiny as fuck.
Dante
Travis Touchdown victim
Dante dunks all over Travis in every conceivable way. I’d suggest sticking with Joe.
Yeah Mundus actually created a universe the size of a highway. Get real, feats don’t stop mattering when you run out of arguments.
Blehheheheh… BLECK!
Fun fact: The Socratic dialogues have several passages that go "aren't our Gods pretty swell!" You may interpret that as you will. Socrates also supposedly believed in daemons.
- Critias and Timaeus in particular add more lore as they discuss the existence of Atlantis.
- Neo-platonics went on to incorporate daemons and Greek heroes to their beliefs, presumably as a result of Plato.
Dante dunks all over Travis
NMH3 has Travis beat several planet-busting mini-bosses and bosses
Post one (1) planetary Dante feat.
Well since you’re including scaling from fighting people (something that I do consider valid)
Fought Mundus, who instantly created a universe
Is stronger than/comparable to Nero, who defeated the Savior, someone who created an entire star
The first one is all he really needs though honestly.
stronger than a canonically omnipotent god who actually transcends fiction
FUAAAAAARK
Anon asriel canonically died to a bunch of weak ass humans the first time he had Chara's soul. He's actually fodder
Kratos trying to punch down a wall
multi timeline level attacks
Okabe fodder
The masses had different interpretations of the gods compared to the elites and priestly class. Greek rulers tried to ban the Dionysian cult but failed.
How do you fight against superior western metaphysics?
By realizing the materialist/idealist dichotomy is a sham and you can transcend all dualities.
The nondualistic monism of vedanta solos your verse.
DIAMOND!
liquid shit...
Aslan can enter the platonic world of forms, he solos all verses.
i just hanged black curtains along the walls of a room and put on some christmas lights. i'm multi star system as a lowball now
11D wank didn't save Master Chief.
DMCbro...
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Why do you have a bbc in your filename?????
Turns her into a gun
Prove the universe Mundus created was actually equal in size to our universe
doom slayer so irrelevant his episode is already forgotten
Yep, he lost.
I can just post the creator of DMC himself saying that Mundus actually did create a universe.
You mean when he didn’t want to go haywire despite Chara wanting to kill everything, so he held their combined body back?
He never even got it
He thinks a brand new universe is equal in size to a preexisting one
Feel free to post it anyway though. Doesn't change the fact that in a later game Dante couldn't keep up with an SUV.
It was a mix of a couple reasons
Came off of Ben VS Hal to take down DC wank
Simon and teen Ben having the same english VA for the meta funny
Both willpower focused powerhouses
Kyle made a small gurren lagann reference construct one time
Will of the Drill becoming really popular
The matchup itself is dumb because actual gurren fans wanted him to go against another cosmic sized mecha, not some guy who cant even make a construct the size of a solar system.
Except there's much more precedence for a character with Galaxy-Universe sized mechs to be higher dimensional than a ninja who isn't even planetary
Actually, when Hideki confirmed that Mundus created an entire universe, what he MEANT to say was that the universe was the size of a shoebox
The creator’s words mean nothing to me if it goes against my narrative
I thought you guys were always shitting on Kratos wank and hyping up Doom Slayer because of what their creators said about the franchises? What’s going on here exactly? Does Kamiya need to give the exact dimensions and size of the universe Mundus created for it to be considered legitimate? Or are you just a petty faggot who refuses to take things at face value even if the person who made the media you’re debating in the first place is going against your narrative.
TICK TOCK SWAN
Who wins between Nick Fury and Benjamin Sisko if you included their wapons,ships,space bases and subordinates.
The actual answer
Folgore is such a fucking chad
Just interpret her as weak
I wonder who he could fight be a match up for him. Bugs Bunny is unironically the first thing that comes to mind.
Would they put into consideration that he was holding back because he didn't want to kill?
Nick Fury
Why post a DEI-nigger instead of Nick? You do know that Fury looks like Hasselhoff right
MCU Fury fits better
Simon is able to easily pierce through the Source Wall, create mechs unfathomably larger than any of of the best Green Lanterns can create combined, attack you at any point of time and at any place in any universe, kill a universe destroying god without his mech, produce an infinite amount of spiral energy and never has to worry about running out of it, can regain spiral energy in universes where it does not exist, break through any reality warping attacks
How do you write around this without sounding mad?
Best they can do is just sperg about DC cosmology and how Simon "j-just cant" where Simon's whole thing is just telling any cosmology bs to fuck itself and overcome it anyway. So basically bias.
They cant even rely on story meta shit since audio drama Simon surpasses that too and would be far beyond The Source Wall due to what TSW represents
Gremmy is probably the easiest match in terms of power and ability similarity
Saying that Simon can do anything and expecting zero pushback is inherently bias. As long as the shit Kyle can scale to is above what the AS has done, Simon loses.
I lose all interest in a Death Battle when lore feats become an argument.
Give me on screen feats, or give me better content.
As long as the shit Kyle can scale to is above what the AS has done
That's the thing though. He doesn't
DC is ultimately confined to the paper and they even treat it that way. Simon transcends that
You stand before me, not knowing the depths of the Earth or the reaches of the Heavens.
I'm very sorry.
here's a list of what the anti spiral can do. Surely Kyle is able to do all this but better at the very least. He should definitely be able to do more things than just this too.
This how dimensions are layered in the manga
but better
Actually he is worse at it
There's no way, with how DC cosmology works, it has a century of build up. Kyle would be able to fare against the Anti Spiral.
That's like if you made a Death Battle with Mario against a weaker Bowser.
It's not mentioned in the wiki but they also have Higher Dimensional Manipulation
Kyle hasn't done much of anything with his vaunted power-ups
What is a more powerful finisher move than rape
Nakashima explaining the Multiversal Labyrinth
At the end of the day DC is just a pile of contradictory word salad that just goes up to another way of saying "infinity infinities but still just on a piece of paper". Gurren is the same (but more organized and based on actual stuff) except surpasses the paper part in the drama cd.
Shit, DC is only 6 dimensional while Simon at minimum is about double that before the drama cd wackiness (and yes in the same way as DC with infinite dimensions within those planes)
As far as I've heard Kyle has never done anything on the level of absorbing the multiversal labyrinth (which in actuality is absorbing several infinite complex and ever perpetuating multiverses) and the scale of his offense and defense is limited. Best he has is esoteric but still visually small scale stuff
Forgot pic
by the end Toriko reaches DBZ levels of power creep
I hope you one day realize that no one outside of here is ever going to take this talking point seriously, and you’d get laughed at by anyone if you tried using it as a serious argument.
brainwashing
Raoh?
fuck no. Homelander's main flaw is fighting like an unskilled thug because he is a big fish in a small pond while Raoh is so skilled he only shows his true fighting style for those he deems worthy
Cant surpass the paper boundary that houses his infinite cosmology
Kek
Simon creating the TTGL and its Super Spiral Universe after merging with the Multiversal Labyrinth using his shout
Maybe Mr. Incredible, Late Dragon Ball (not Z) Yamcha?, Maybe a MCU hero like Captain America or Spiderman, Mr. Satan, Wesker from Resident Evil. I think those would be fair matches.
Match ups against Homelander are hard, it's either people pit him against shit like Goku fused with Superman or people shrug and go 'he could probably kill a baby'.
That's a bad idea
Nakashima explaining Spiral Power and the Spiral Nemesis
*All of these Simon feats being posted*
Kyle: AIIIIEEEEEE SAVE ME SWANK-SAMA!!!
One (1) universe in Gurren Lagann has infinite energy
Lord Genome was able to absorb this and convert it to Spiral Energy. Granted, he had to sacrifice himself
Impressive. Very nice. Anyways, Parallax Hal = Base form Kyle. Wow that was an easy win.
surpassing their narrative
Gensokyo is the equal opposite of the outside world, like two sides of the same coin, and the outside world IS our reality. Touhou is equal to reality, Touhou beings actually are the literally real ideas, beliefs and concepts people have (unlike lesser characters like superman or simon who merely represent such ideas within a fictional story)
Leave Godzilla to me.
Captain America has balls the size of outerverses holy shit
Parallax would shit his pants and turn from just fear into shitting brix if he saw a drill the size of a galaxy coming down at him
Sure, what can Parallax Hal do against the Anti Spiral. What can he do better than him? If you can't even be a better Anti Spiral then you have no chance against Simon.
Was there any doubt? Even Kaijus need to learn that the human spirit can acomplish anything.
Legend
FUARKKKKKKKKK!!!
why are deathbattle threads Anon Babble only? is it because the majority of powerlevelfags are westerners that rig everything with their compose western media character feats and toon force?
Kratosura had one thread on Anon Babble, I think it's because Anon Babble is slower then both Anon Babble and Anon Babble
This is our home, our sanctuary, our basilica. Only the STRONGEST can participate and the STRONGEST come from Anon Babble.
Parallax Hal would drain the AS before using that same energy to nuke his entire reality out of existence. So basically Zero Hour but Green.
1. It's a Western animated cartoon,
2. Anon Babble, Anon Babble, and Anon Babble get new content every season so they don't have to rely on fanfiction to keep things fresh.
Not really. Size =/= dimension.
He can drain infinite energy?
Where does this put you on the power scale if you split a black hole? youtu.be
Of the four disciples of Hokuto, Toki and Jagi are ones that Homelander could beat. Raoh and Ken stomp him. Toki at his prime should stomp him as well, but cancer weakened him.
Though if any FotNS character should fight him, I'd say Thouzer. Physically as strong as the others, and has a similar outlook to Raoh, just without the instant win techniques Raoh has.
AS can also just drain him. Its just a stalemate and they are functionally the same except Hal is green and Anti Spiral is far larger.
Lanterns dont seem to handle large scale attacks very well that arent esoteric reality warping shenanigans. They could barely handle a planet exploding
Slow blender insertion, bottom-up.
Statements aren't feats.
Anon Babble is one of the melting pots of Anon Babble that allows these sort of threads to fester for good or ill. It also acts as a colony for /dbs/ fags. Anon Babble might have a thread with it once in a blue moon if a Anon Babble match is involved but its usually just to shit on Death Battle and talk about stuff without the usual garbage that gets spammed in these ones. The quality of the few Anon Babble ones are way better but that is usually how it goes with foreign board stuff lime discussing vidya on Anon Babble and such
Try being less of an obvious crybaby, fag.
i'm not sure. black hole's aren't quite "solid objects" from my understanding. in theory you'd need some pretty fucking heavy duty control over the fabric of spacetime
No they can't, holographic principle.
superjews feats will always be inconsistant and uncompound
Check Aslans vsbw profile, Jesus is outerversal
Outerversal wooden cross
rematches don’t get dimes!
no one likes stomp episodes!
guaranteed flop!
Reminder that Reddit spammed their Shigito background NPC waifu to drown out discussion and hype of this episode, and it STILL killed them.
I didn't see a single one of those things in the lead up to this episode. And it's "draw dimes", you dunderhead
People click on episodes with character they know, simple as that.
Anyone can draw dimes, nigger. They’re literally just circles.
Let's start from the bottom and work our way up. How do Kyle and or Hal take care of the Anti Spiral? No need to ask 'How does Simon take care of X?' the answer is he drills a big fucking hole in it and kills it.
People seem pretty indecisive about these guys abilities. I can't tell if it's bias or just not knowing what they're capable of. javascript:;
Yes. By default every Lantern ring contains an infinite universe within it. He’s even fought against enemies who can drain him. Hell, the biggest enemies of the Lanterns, the Scarabs, are capable of absorbing the power of Doctor Fate, but Jamie’s Scarab couldn’t do jack against Guy.
I’m arguing for Kyle and even I think this is redundant. Statements are inherently feats.
Seethe MOAR loser faggot.
to drown out discussion and hype of this episode
That’s not what happened. They just didn’t discuss the MU because there wasn’t much to talk about other than “Slayer fucking murders Chief”. You act like there was an active campaign to not talk about the fight when in reality there just wasn’t a lot TO talk about. Same shit happened here.
If Green Lanterns can just casually time travel and instantly Xeelee everything to death, why do they even bother making giant green holographic guns and missiles to shoot people with? Feels way less effective than just traveling back in time to hit them with a sneak attack
Why would you draw dimes when you can print bills? You're contriving our counterfeit operation
I don't doubt they contain an infinite universe but haven't there been plenty of instances of them running out of energy or not being able to handle a certain amount of energy? Is it just dependent on the user?
Are you asking why the space cops whose duty is to not abuse their power and keep order in the universe don’t go back in time and murder anyone who opposes them?
That’s still prime meme potential like for Omnilander. DB Redditors just like to label one side as “toxic” so they can justify shitting on them for no reason. The “toxic Doomfags”, “salty Asuratards”, “Shigarakichuds”, etc. In this case, there was no way to gloat against the “non-Reddit side”, because they undeniably lost, so they deflected to off-topic waifuposting instead.
This just sounds like you tried to make a post on Reddit about Slayer Vs Chief and people just went “who cares lol just wait for the episode to come out”
It's going to breach 2 million before the week is over
Kratossissies...
People click on episodes with character they know, simple as that.
Noooooo! You spoiled the secret!!!!
That’s still more on-topic than “mid safe-horny waifupost #18573749”. Hell, considering some powerscalers take 11D Chief seriously, it’s not like there wasn’t a debate to be had. Death Battle fanboys just hate powerscaling apparently, even on the show they claim to love based entirely around powerscaling.
You see Death Battle doesn't try to depict the source material.
Last time I played Dark Souls I couldn't bust open a door let alone universes.
Hell, considering some powerscalers take 11D Chief seriously, it’s not like there wasn’t a debate to be had.
There wasn’t, because even if you do take 11D CORTONA seriously, it doesn’t impact the fight in any meaningful way, which most people realize. Unlike Omnilander there wasn’t any real fun discussion to be had about a relatively beloved character getting gored by an opponent who vastly outmatches him. That’s why the Reddit and Anon Babble waiting period was filled with discussion about other MU’s besides Slayer Vs Chief. People were doing powerscaling both here and there, just not with the present matchup.
Really the only way Chief would ever have the slightest chance to win against the DoomSlayer is just straight up firing a Halo ring on top of him and even that isn't guaranteed
if he was omnipotent why did it take him a long time to destroy the universe?
be chief
fights against the slayer
Call for Mac round support
It does jackshit
Desperate, calls over a covenant glassing beam from an assault carrier
nada
Brings out the nova bomb
a planet killer bomb
Kaboom
...he's still standing like nothing happens
Fuck it
Halo ring teleports over
Activate firing sequence
*halo firing sound effect*
...
... Did it finally work?
...
"Unf"
Sonabitch-
slayer touches chief
Chief instantly dies
no response
holy FUark. the anti-spiral kills Kyle AND Hal??
Could Kyle or Hal even escape the Galactic Spiral Abyss?
CHADSlayer victory
Master INCEL defeat
Not sure, said Parallax Hal could just drain AS's energy and blow him up. I don't know how true that really is though. The thing is that using that big bang attack didn't drain AS at all. Looking back at the Gurren Lagann movie Simon absorbed the infinity big bang attack, became STTGL and then the Anti Spiral instantly just went to the same scale/power as him and then destroyed STTGL.
Assuming they have spiral energy, no.
Jokes aside, I don't see the DS surviving any of those things
he's still crying over Akane
Yes but those instances are directly tied to their will at the moment. You’ve had Lanterns casually resist existence erasure so what really matters is the peak of their will.
be doom slayer
can't open door
Who said he wanted to destroy it instantly?
If that's the case I feel like it's a stalemate.
a GL at their prime has infinite power and infinite energy
Simon at his prime has infinite power and infinite energy
There isn't a 'greater' infinity. If they have the same hax, can cancel out those hax if they were hit by it, then nothing happens.
Wait a goddamn second. Have none of you Kyle scalers actually read the comics? Even Kyle at his absolute maximum power in complete control of the Life Equation in the hypothetical bad future of Futures End, is able to be resisted by normal non-Lantern people who have a certain degree of willpower, compassion, or rage. And there is one person in all this bad future that is capable of totally ignoring Kyle's ability to control. Her defining characteristic is hope.
If you want to tell me that those qualities of rage, compassion, will, and hope don't exist in Simon to drive him and his Spiral Power forwards, then sure, maximum power Kyle wins. Otherwise, Simon should be able to break through in the end.
We are 100% getting a Sentry episode in the future, right?
Have none of you Kyle scalers actually read the comics?
Most of the people here skim wikis at best.
Where the YABADABADOO of Cortana watching the slayer throw a unconscious chief to a pit of rapist demons
You’ve had Lanterns casually resist existence erasure
When?
Solos your 3D verse
Doomslayer a Low-C2
He's tanking all that shit with a grin
C2 Proficiency, previously known as Cambridge English: Proficiency and the Certificate of Proficiency in English, is an English language examination provided by Cambridge Assessment English.
So he's mediocre at English?
"unf"
be slayer
talks with chief about how he likes cute things
chief agrees
friendship ending
I've seen people say he cannot use LE and White Lantern. Is that still true? Or does he not need even to have both? Also do you have some examples of him being in full control of it and he can exactly do that Simon couldn't handle?
If you want to tell me that those qualities of rage, compassion, will, and hope don't exist in Simon to drive him
Spiral Power is the power of evolution. It has no limits and can manipulate reality as well.
KINGtos solos the verse
Hold on. If this feat is quantified as Popeye damaging his reality/universe, which has 8 spatial dimensions, won't this make him 8D?
That's your gameplay/ lore and cutscene split. And then you have mechanics vs. gameplay, it's what makes action video characters super inconsistent. Like in Dark Souls you can chop apart heavily armored knights, golems, and dragons, no problem, but a wooden door is out of the question. Borderlands let's you fire a gorillion rockets, but hitting them all into a tin shack does nothing to it.
Of course, you have the opposite side of the coin, with JRPGs where you literally have a blast visible from space that does less than hitting them twice with your sword.
Friendship ending
Yeah, of course they'd be friends. That's not the point of Death Battle. It's harder to find people who wouldn't be friends.
science?
thats cute
Constantine vs Raidou
who wins?
JRPGs also have the opposite problem, where a character who can jump a building in cutscene can't get around a small fence.
Yes really
TTGL can throw galaxies around
Guy can't even throw the moon at Madara so his plan can't happen.
outerversal sword.
Raidou, Constantine usually needs prep for some of his crazier shit.
Except the higher dimensional sci-fi shit is literally built into the lore
the one setting with 0 fanart because nobody can picture things that only make sense to NASA mathematics
The fundamental problem with Green Lantern matchups is that since the power set was never strictly limited, and the character-concept has existed for over half a century, you could scour old issues and find some bullshit that would be tone-deaf in different time periods. I'm sure you could find a Green Lantern comic from 1962 where Hal Jordan "uses his phenomenally powerful ring to erase the concept of time from existence" and all it does is help him weave around a generic energy blast with extra steps. Or "the Emerald Crusader uses his omnipotent ring to generate chronal energy and seal his enemy in between the beginning and the end of time" or some bullshit like that Anything you can think of. But those one-offs add up if composites are used and they're going out of their way to use every little thing. I'm not saying they win every matchup, I'm saying it's an endlessly moving goalpost based on how many times GL fans are willing to type "Green Lantern respect thread" on their search bar
Luv me some Goons
Didn't DB disregard the early age for Superman?
I'm not sure what kind of chicanery DC did to Superman during Rebirth, but he was affected by the likes of COIE and Flashpoint; people often debate versions of Superman, whether it's "Golden Age", "Silver Age", "Post Crisis", "New 52" and so on. GL's famously skipped over COIE with their stories more or less intact and I don't recall if they've been retconned after that. But the GL mythos is soooo different now that Johns may as well have retconned the whole thing and it's only gotten more mutated since then
Okay, I finished that run (it actually comes across as a reference to TTGL to a degree), so I feel more confident in speaking to it. Granted this run took place in 2015, so it is possible somethings have changes in the past decade.
Basically the White Lantern ethos of preserving life is such that it was always intended to be able to move energy from the Source into the rest of the universe so that it could maintain life. Kyle's desire to cross back through the Source Wall required a change to occur in Kyle though.
Kyle doesn't so much as consciously edit the Life Equation as it is his desire to go through causes it to be edited by him subconsciously. This imbues him with part of the power of the Life Equation and though he doesn't realize it, he creates a negative copy of himself named Oblivion. Oblivion somehow realizes that if Kyle keeps the Life Equation then he'll become that mad god version of himself I mentioned before (though I didn't mention that the end of the story is Kyle disappearing into/becoming part of the Source and living behind his White Ring to the one person who opposed him).
The Life Equation saga as a whole also involves the Green Lantern Godhead arc, where Highfather creates a backdoor into Kyle's mind to use the Life Equation as proxy through him and divests Kyle of all his powers. He eventually gives it back when he realizes he's just being like Darkseid with how he is using the powers (and also because his usage of the Life Equation on the invading force of revived Source Titan and fail to control them) and Kyle (through methods he still doesn't understand) wills the Source Titans away.
To actually answer your question though, the way he resolves the Oblivion crisis is by having the guardians go into his mind and create new White Lantern rings to divide the Life Equation into nonfunctioning pieces. The bearers of these rings become the White Lantern Corps and defeat Oblivion because Kyle is no longer at risk of the bad future.
Forbidden GOW lore the fans hate to acknowledge.
I ran out of characters.
No, I didn't see any cases of Present Kyle using the Life Equation with full control, more just wishing somethings to happen. Future Kyle is in control of it, and can convert entire worlds into "good" but some stragglers will resist. Those stragglers he can convert when one on one, but there ends up being one person he can't.
As for using LE and WL at the same time, well technically you can only harness the LE as a WL. The goal that splitting the LE was to afford the power of the WL to others on a more permanent basis and thereby deprive Kyle of ever having the full control of the LE without the consent of the other corps members.
Post DoomBITCH not getting trapped by a temple.
Every single instance of his existence when that doesn’t happen. That was easy.
So one can fuck with life equation stuff. Sounds like Simon can just absorb it and no sell
Correct me if I'm wrong on some points. So that's what people meant by he couldn't handle it? LE is that powerful even Kyle's subconscious was making stuff happen so it was just too dangerous to bare? Not in a sense it would kill him, just the world would go to hell if he kept it. From the sounds of it, White Lantern sounds like if Simon was the one kept control of Spiral Power for all natural life.
Future Kyle is in control of it
I'd assume that's who would be in the Death Battle then since that's him at his prime.
Converts entire worlds into 'good'
Is it pacifying them? If it's a reality warper, that makes sense. Is Future Kyle essentially becoming like Darkseid then? If someone's opposing him my guess is it's because he controls everything.
There ends up being one person he can't
The one who's power was hope? I think that's Simon's ticket to victory
The goal that splitting the LE was to afford the power of the WL to others on a more permanent basis and thereby deprive Kyle of ever having the full control of the LE without the consent of the other corps members.
I don't think that would be considered for a Death Battle then. In a scenario where it's just a fight against Simon, he would have no reason to worry about losing it to give to other people.
Exactly. Simon is meant for scenarios like telling op Darkseid/Galactus-like characters to shove their power wanking up their ass. and that there's nothing stronger than motivation and the desire to fight for a better tomorrow. HIS DRILL IS THE DRILL THAT CREATES THE HEAVENS
power cosmic
hulk powers
the symbiote too
hulkbros... CHADzilla is stacking MORE and MORE feats...
Didn't Death Metal/Infinite Frontier end up making it so that everyone entire history was canon?
I don't think that would be considered for a Death Battle then. In a scenario where it's just a fight against Simon, he would have no reason to worry about losing it to give to other people.
Eh, it depends on how they handle it. The title seems to be "Gurren Lagann VS White Lantern", so I can see outside help coming for both sides
Could your favorite character win Master Chef?
They cant even rely on story meta shit since audio drama Simon surpasses that too
Real talk, who here actually thinks they're going to bring that shit up? Like I can see them talking about secondary material like the manga, novels, databooks, but the audio CD that almost no one has ever brought up until just a few months ago?
I wouldn't exactly call Future Kyle "in his prime" it is a bad future version of him if he let the LE stay in him and lead him to despotic madness.
But for your other questions, I should just advise you to read Green Lantern New Guardians Futures End. It is only a single comic and there might be a story time somewhere in the archives.
I don't want to let my biased descriptions tell you an answer you might not get from the text yourself.
They stick to the lore but if the lore was only so other people could get white lanterns then I think it's not out of the question. If it's 'White Lantern' vs Gurren Lagann then Simon would probably have his whole team with him. They don't produce as much spiral power but they also got Tengen Toppas in the movie, and Lord Genome himself was able to convert an infinite attack and he had less spiral power than Simon when he was still 14.
Honestly hard to say with those fags. They pulled a fucking cookbook for Kratos
Has Kyle ever survived a big bang to the face?
Counterpoint, cookbook. I know that was for the sake of a 'nerf' but it does indicate that it is something they'll reach to.
The bad end future sounds like it could be a reason why he's fighting Simon. But I'll bookmark it for later, thanks for the explanations.
Simon doesnt need his team for Gurren
The one who's power was hope? I think that's Simon's ticket to victory
i bet it will be another penance stare scenario where he's just the kind of person who can resist it depite wankers saying it can never ever fail
To be honest, I don't think he does either. I'm just saying, if he gets more they're not dead weight
I think out of the characters I think of when someone says favorite character... Vegeta could probably get past at least one round seeing as he was confident enough in his own cooking to try and make food for Beerus in order to placate him.
Zooms to Simon's face with life equation stufd going on around hi.
He smiles
JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!?!
The LE is absorbed into his drill and he defeats Kyle Anti Spiral style
Share respectful bats as Anti Spiral did.
Kyle's ring flies to Simon who catches it like he did with the wedding ring at the end of Gurren Lagann and he walks away
kicks an omnipresent god's ass with just his bare hands
That is the most cucked fantasy I’ve ever heard.
I guess being trapped in hell for thousands of years and going insane would do that to you.
thats cool and all but why does Hideki format his tweets like that, i thought he was the person asking the question at first
All it is missing is the KO screen having Kyle's Pink Lantern swooning over Simon.
Canon tends to be weaker than fanfiction and headcanon.
Marth vs Aragorn Is even worse than Lyn vs Kenshin
Wouldn't kicking an omnipresent's ass be incredibly easy
their argument in the DB for Hal beating Ben 10 was that Hal could resist everything Alien X could do
Simon can resist everything in Kyle's arsenal
Ruh roh
Alien X is not as strong as Simon
Time huh?
Travels goes back to when Simon found Lagann
Kills him
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
Already been gone over. The result would be
Time huh? Thanks for the tip
Goes back in time
The instant he exits he is met with a cosmic sized omnipresent probability altering missile to the face
"Time, huh"
Tries to go back in time
"OH NO YOU DON'T"
Kyle gets a face full of probability missiles in his face from the past, present, and future
Context?
Probability missiles explode in the past
Hit Simon as a kid
Since he was a normal person then, he dies
Either that or
"Time huh"
Travels back to when Simon found the core drill
Acasual "past" Simon puts a drill in him
Probability altering remember? Simon wouldnt suffer any damage. Plus it wouldnt affect Simon anyway
mmm sadge
guess i could also replace it to eldrick vs warrior of light
According to Christian Lore in Paradise Lost. Michael OHKO the Egyptian, Greek/Roman, Norse pantheon, Satan, 1/3rd angels in heaven during satan rebellion, and Jesus scales way above Michael. So Kratos is super lucky that Jesus is a pacifist
Looking back at the Ben v Hal
Kyle held back a big bang
Batman tricked Kyle to thinking he was blind, because Kyle thought he was blind it actually did make him blind
References other ring users outside of Kyle, someone who survived the Crisis on Infinite Earth
A ring does carry a finite charge (24 hours) but it takes 10 seconds to fully recharge
If the energy is it spends too much energy too quickly his power battery needs to refuel
Ruin his willpower or belief in himself, he loses his powers.
the one possible outcome for Kyle to win and even that would probably backfire due to Simon's probability manipulation and being acasual
it's a wrap folks. we finally found an anime character that could out bullshit the biggest bullshitters in the history of animation
so what is Simon going to call him names?
Simon's not the type to do that obviously. I think if Simon not being able to be taken down even after losing his mech disencourages Kyle then it could just be downhill from there. If a Kyle with LE and White Lantern be stopped like in that bad future version of Kyle, it shows he's not completely unbeatable
ring has limited energy
spiral power is unlimited
I honest to god believe spiral energy would probably be too much for a lantern ring to handle
Gets Life Equation
Keeps Spiral Power, but changes evolution to be de-evolution
How does Simon beat that? Serious answers only
>Kyle held back a big bang
No he didn't.
I'm just quoting them, man. It's something they'll bring up again.
by reversing it
How does he reverse it? If Hal changes how Spiral Power works, then Simon can't do shit.
Hal
My bad, I need some coffee
Either uses his own definition or goes so hard the other way he becomes Anti Spiral / Spiral Nemesis or some lovecraftian thing so back to square 1
Before there was time. Before there was anything. There was nothing.
And before there was nothing...
...There were monsters...
Even hypothetical controlled LE Kyle couldnt do that
How is he going to do that? Simon is able to warp reality and is practically a God. But he still follows the laws of the world. Spiral Power just lets him do that. If Spiral Power changes as a whole, it doesn't matter if he has an infinite amount of it. I think if you take it away, Simon can bring it back, but changing how it works is a different game.
Does Kyle even know how to do that? My small understanding is that Kyle doesn't even know how the LE works but apparently he knows enough to do conceptual biological manipulation
There's been instances where he has full control of it. Even if it's a bad future, I think DB still gives it to him because it's an example of him at his prime. He may be mad with power, but he's still powerful.
also the anti-spiral is right there. Lordgenome experienced quantum breakdown, absorbed the energy, and converted the infinity big bang storm into another source of spiral power
He still follows the laws of the world
Unless he decides not to. Same schtick against Anti Spiral.
But in the Bad Future people still no sold it from him. Simon would be like that one person in that story
In the end it's a fucking Anti Spiral rematch
There's been instances where he has full control of it
Like? I would kind of like an example of Kyle doing something to that degree, because Spiral Power is essentially an unchanging constant in the show, rewriting it would require very serious skill, like rewriting the concept of time
according to [HEADCANON]
Also why are we even assuming that the demons scale to their mythological counterparts when it is very much established that said demons were liars or mortal men? That's like claiming Marvel/DC expys of each other get their actual counterpart's feats
changing how it works is a different game.
the anti-spiral literally tried that and it backfired
GET THE TURN COAT!
TRAITOR
That should really be the proverbial chink in the armor they mentioned in the DBcast. Power rings can run out of charge or be overloaded, essentially finite. Spiral Power is not
Yes and no, i'd say western comic fans that like powerlevel shit are more likely to post on Anon Babble and they don't want to split the communities. Hoodweebs that care about Goku's powerlevel and aura don't post on Anon Babble.
Really sounds like Kyle would be easy pickings for Anti Spiral
Do hoodweebs even care about Death Battle?
Unless he decides not to. Same schtick against Anti Spiral.
No, I get what the other anon is saying even if I disagree entirely or at least, I think requires way more proof that Kyle can even do that with the LE. Simon is 100% bound by the laws of the Spiral, even if went full apeshit crazy with Spiral Power, he can't just resist the Spiral Nemesis with sheer willpower.
No see, here we go. The Anti-Spiral can't rewrite how Spiral works as a concept, if they could they would have done so already, not as a way to kill Simon but literally after they halted their own evolution.
Death Battle fanboys just hate powerscaling apparently,
oh yeah, i guess it makes sense since the show does the thinking for them, they don't enjoy the hobby they just want to know their tv dad wins
give into despair, lantern corps
Just shoves em into the Yellow Reality
Ez
stinky hat
Just enough to be shown it on their phones and be like, "Nah that's not how it'd go."
His teeth are the context.
Show me the Anti Sprialing how Spiral Power WORKS. Not taking it away.
I'll do a simple comparison
If Simon and AS were playing a game together, AS unplugged his controller and tossed it across the room out of arms reach. Simon got up, plugged it back in and won
If Simon and Kyle were playing a game together, Kyle would fuck with how the buttons work and there would be no other controller around to change to
Journey to the West" is a Buddhist propaganda novel, where Wu Cheng'en's Monkey OC, Sun Wukong, beats up and humiliates supposedly omnipotent Daoist gods like the Jade Emperor. and shows the Buddha (a Buddhist deity) as stronger than the Jade Emperor, the supreme god in Daoism. funny how this kind of shit is only problematic when Christians do it.
changing*
Man that would be a goofy as fuck ending
The the two barrel through the Source Wall and brawl in The Source
Deadlock with some slight hint Kyle is gonna win
Zooms out to Simon drawing the fight
Mm...nah
Pencil to paper and Simon wins
He is referring to the bad future where he presumably mastered it...but even then people resisted it with one just flat out going no to it full stop so take that as you will.
Tbf they only care about the animation and not the actual analysis, saying things like aura and character wouldn't do that.
I think requires way more proof that Kyle can even do that with the LE
the problem is he does not know how to use it. so even if he tried, it could backfire because he never mastered how to use it. as Wiz said in Sonic Vs. Flash, the story comes first.
Simon should have been going against someone with toon force...
meant for
Not outside of the relevant shonen anime/pop culture MUs, hoodweebs still have normalfag taste
Death Battle mostly appeals to white kids whose entire playlist is video game OSTs
He's infinite.
Sadly they're going to waste Yujiro on fucking Sportacus.
?
Hopefully, this will be one of those times where they don't turn a podcast matchup into an actual episode, and we get Yujiro vs Homelander and Sportacus vs Pepsiman.
and we get Yujiro vs Homelander
That's not a fair match up, Homelander is still getting stomped. Nobody ever suggests fair fights for Homelander.
What is? Brightburn?
I'd say they would be talking instead of fighting. Jesus ain't a fighter, & so what reason for Kratos to even beat a guy whose just there?
more like Buttburn
The Life Equation was excised from The Source by the White Lantern (Kyle Rayner) after his escape from it following the fight with Relic, combining with the White Light of life.[3] However, Highfather found this out, and, hoping to use the Life Equation as a weapon to defeat Darkseid once and for all, he set out to take it for himself using a scepter-like device constructed by the smith of the New Gods, Hyalt, but was without success when he obtained one of most of the other rings: violet, indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange, and red.[4] He only managed to obtain the true Life Equation after convincing Kyle Rayner to give up his White Lantern Ring of his own accord.[1] However, as it was Kyle who took the Life Equation, it was intrinsically tied to him, being the true source of his abilities since escaping the Source Wall. Therefore, he would die without it, but only he could truly use its potential.
He only managed to obtain the true Life Equation after convincing Kyle Rayner to give up his White Lantern Ring of his own accord.
so he physically can't be the white lantern and use the LE at the same time. why is this even an argument
stomp with one or stomp with the other, like Good Cole and Evil Cole
see
Homelander can beat...pretty much a teenage Homelander
C'mon
Kyle loses in both kek
What about the Red Dragon Keeper?
It's all biased, like if Egyptians were in charge of writing it they'd say their pantheon btfo'd Moses
Audio drama Simon just goes "lol no" and changes it back or flat out ignores it because equations are fag logic shit for fags
Audio drama
Non canon
Yes it is
Yes it is
Show me the creator saying it is. Not like Death Battle will even CONSIDER it
but muh cookbook
Something you could stumble across at Target. They're not diving that deep in for poorly translated CD scripts.
Not likr Death Battle will even CONSIDER it
Anon, they used a damn cookbook
Dont see why it would be out of bounds when a cook book wasnt.
Who could POSSIBLY challenge him?
I don't think they care enough to look for an audio drama CD. Unless they get word that it actually contains feats and is canon (still no proof btw), they'll be unaware of it. Do a rematch in 5 years and still have Simon lose because by then Kyle got 5 years of wanks
the kratos episode could've grown this fast if they had him fight dante or thor instead of literal who asura
No one would’ve accepted SHITos beating CHADor or CHADte.
People always wanted Asura vs Kratos. Even before Dad of War. Two really angry guys going at it is its gimmick. Plus, I'm happier to see Death Battle sometimes go for something a little more niche anyway.
God the wiki makes it sound so much more confusing than it was.
Highfather wanted to defeat Darkseid forever.
He found out that Kyle had gotten the Life Equation.
He collected the other rings.
He comes to Kyle during a time where Kyle is totally losing control of his powers after the Guardians try to strip him of it.
He offers to take this uncontrollable power from Kyle.
Kyle agrees and uses a device that the Highfather made that was said to be able to take it away.
The Life Equation is tied to Kyle's existence as the White Lantern, so all the device actually does is set up a backdoor for the Highfather to access the Life Equation.
Kyle is led to believe by the Highfather that the Life Equation was removed and that Kyle was depowered by taking the White Lantern ring..
Godhead arc happens.
Kyle gets his ring back and is shocked he can't access his White Lantern powers.
Guardians inform him that it is because it wasn't taken from him and rather just being hijacked through a mental power.
Kyle goes into the mindscape and confronts the Highfather.
Highfather brings Kyle to his knees by exercising more control over the mental block.
He would have won if two things didn't happen:
1. His usage of the Life Equation failed to convert the Source Titans into his subjects and instead just made them angrier.
2. Hal Jordan said he was acting like Darkseid.
Highfather closes the mental backdoor so Kyle can have all his power back.
Kyle just sorta desires that the Source Titans be somewhere where they wouldn't be bothered, but doesn't know exactly how he made it happen.
post thor chopping a tree with an axe
Egypt did actually have their own characterization of the Israelites. They basically accused them of worshiping Set/Seth.
It's all biased, like if Egyptians were in charge of writing it they'd say their pantheon btfo'd Moses
the Egyptians absolutely did it to themselves: See Aten flr the most astroturfing effort
what we understand as the Egyptian Empire is actually similar to a theorical North American Union (Mexico, USA, Canada), the egyptians just mixed their gods accordingly to whoever was in power
apparently not many people, asura is a guy people kinda know but he won't put asses in seats
The more people go into Kyle's stuff the more it sounds like he would be shut down by the multiversal labyrinth technique
Unless they get word
afaik a vswiki poster was hyping it up, it's the entire reason anyone knows about it lol
Sure. I still respect that they went through with it though.
True, but you don't see anyone saying that the Daoist God's WuKong and Buddha humbles in the novels shouldn't be scaled to their mythological counterparts.
Show me the creator saying it is.
that's not how it works, anon. Audio Dramas are always canon unless it is obviously OOC or they come forth and state it as non-canon
It is definitely possible, he was pretty set on letting Oblivion kill him after Oblivion told him that his future would be a mad god. If it wasn't for his friends telling him to get his shit together, he probably would have.
I think Bobo-bo is a good choice or Kamchome and Fulgore
Bobobo is a good idea. I don't know if Takaba can keep up with him though, he was struggling with Kenjaku playing along. Bobobo is just insane.
Christian theology actively claims pagan gods don't have powers/are lying demons. It's retarded to scale feats to a theology they actively claim doesn't exist
you are a liar worshipping false idols with no power, but also God scales to any feats these false idols didn't actually do according to Christian theology because uhhhhhhhhhhh
Kyle vs Anti-Spiral
Kyle loses
why is he fighting against Simon again?
The problem with Kenjaku was he started critiquing his form of comedy Bobo-bo on the other hand probably would force takaba into his brand of comedy
We need more death battles where it's a protagonist taking on a villain that's similar to the antagonist in their work
Technically Simon should be capable of it and all AS stuff. At least going by their DBcast of it. Kyle just has generally weaker actual willpower compared to Simon demonstratively
True, he'd just need to keep up with it ultimately. Bobobo might jab at some of it, but maybe more of joking about things happening to 'him'.
Seriously, why was Kyle pushed as the one to fight Simon and not Hal?
false idols
isn't that a protestant point of view? early christians considered guys like Zeus real and the book itself didn't mention anything about "false idols" but about "other gods" and then the proper idols of the gods
Kyle doing a gurren lagann reference one time
This is from the manga based on the Audio CDs.
READ, COPE, AND SEETHE
Well, this project, which started from my wish to have the drama CD made into a comic, has finally reached its conclusion.
Thank you very much for your hard work, Nonoyamasaki-san.
As the story progressed towards its climax, the plot became more original and the amount of content increased rapidly.
But thanks to the love for Gurren Lagann that surpasses all of that, it became a wonderful work.
appreciate.
Coincidentally, this year marks the 10th anniversary of the broadcast of "Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann," and it's even set to start being rebroadcast on television, so I feel like drawing a line under it in this way is very Gurren Lagann-like.
And, without a doubt, this has also become an important work that makes up the Gurren Lagann multiverse.
Just like the main story, I hope that this "Otoko Series" comic will be loved by everyone for a long time to come.
Thank you for staying with us until the end.
The Old Testament views with things like Baal vs YHWH with lighting a fire and the Bel idol make it abundantly clear that Abrahamic theology views these gods as having 0 power and all their feats as being manmade stories, stories like the Chemosh thing are very rare and notable exceptions written before Israelites went full "No gods real except YHWH"
Still won't be referenced.
Life Equation still stomps.
I'm gonna assume people thought Kyle being the White Lantern meant that he was the strongest Lantern.
DCfags going further into cope mode
Kek
I'll be enjoying your tears when Kyle either rewrites reality and fucks with how Spiral Power works, drills a hole in him or shoves him into the Source Wall.
'll be enjoying your tears when Kyle either rewrites reality
Post when Kyle has done this
Gets no sold
Wall drilled
Kyle bodied and his ring taken
Kek and that is without getting to Otoko.
I'm STRONG, I'm a RIPPED HIGH TESTOSTERONE CHAD, I get ALL the BITCHES, I remain UNDEFEATED and UNSTOPPABLE, and entire verses KNEEL before me, MAN it feels good to be so POWERFUL
Dude couldnt even rewrite how willpower worked when he supposedly "mastered" it.
DO THE IMPOSSIBLE SEE THE INVISIBLE
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
TOUCH THE UNTOUCHABLE BREAK THE UNBREAKABLE
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
Didn't Ben or someone say they wanted to make alt endings for some fights? This seems like a good one for it if so.
>Wall drilled
Show me Simon drilling a wall at the edge of the universe that NOBODY can get past
Ring taken
Show me Simon being smart enough to evaluate he would need to take away that within <5 minutes
I agree with you, Father Anderson from Hellsing
Show me Simon being smart enough to evaluate he would need to take away that within <5 minutes
A caveman would be able to realize that Kyle's source of power stems from his ring just from seeing him use it
Nobody can get passed.
Lanterns opened it fine. It isnt that special. Simon is also a smart fighter though animation wise it eill just be portrayed as the ring running out of gas while drill go brrr. That is a consistent problem with the ring, even the white one
Show me Simon being smart enough to evaluate he would need to take away that within <5 minutes
He would have prior knowledge due to him being acausal
Show me Simon being smart enough
... Kyle is Mexican. What ethnic stock do we know Simon to come from?
Spiral race
He's a spiral, but is his spiral a fractal?
he's human. all lifeforms within TTGL, human or animal, harness spiral power. hell, this little guy was able to power up lagaan
make it abundantly clear that Abrahamic theology views these gods as having 0 power
Egyptian Priests vs Moses and the War of the Nine Kings differ.
Also YHWH jobbed to Jacob so all of them are human level by default
wait
Kyle tries to drain Simon's spiral power
Boota just recharges him since he's on Simon's shoulder 24/7
OH FUCK WE FORGOT THE PIGMOLE BEING A POTENTIAL BATTERY CHARGER. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
stomps Gordon (literally)
breeds Samus while the 1-1ers Doomguy and Chief watch
TTGL has a suprisingly complex and somewhat realistic backup for higher dimensional shit.
Simon actually has backup while Kyle has "UHHH WELL HE COULD USE THE LIFE EQUATION" even though he never fucking used it properly and gave it up. all we hear is that he POTENTIALLY can do pull feats off with nothing backing it up
He was able to use enough spiral energy to warp reality and change into a human (though that didn't happen in the movie)
It didn't save him from the dragon born rage.
Written by guy that actually sat down to research physics.
vs.
Written by guys that think 1 million decibels is real physics.
Mate. Don't bring up that argument again because DC Editorial are actual frauds.
SPIRAL POWER IS BULLSHIT
I completely forgot that happened.
If you think about it, if Simon wins then the holy trinity of vs aspects (that have defeated swank) will be completed
Lore:Dragon born
Scaling:The jonklah
Feats:Simon.
I guess there is hax, but as far as I renember no character have beated swank retardation with hax (Spawn could count depending on how much swan likes GR).
A toast...to being FTL +++++++++++++++!
It's a weird scene. Bootan turning from a mole rat to a human is impressive but he just gets mind wiped with everyone else, I get why they cut it from the movie.