Why?
Why?
I'm torn because she's cute but I've never been convinced that her show has any merit to it.
BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO JERK OFF TO CARTOONS, PISS OFF!
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If you have to ask you'll never know
Because have you seen AF gwen design? Its fucking awful
Most familiar design and the one that most fans fell in love with, as they watched the original growing up.
Plus she's sexy as fuck
To my knowledge? Because the online art community has next to no principles.
One minute, underage characters, then underage are stigmatized, then it's like they'll draw teenagers and say "actually this character in my picture is aged up to 18 here", then they make a weird rule around how it's only okay to pull this if you grew up on said character, then it'll be noted that Azula and different Pokemon girls were still being done the entire time all this was going down but everyone will make the "grew up on them excuse", then people start going through the galleries of different popular artists and realize everyone was acting like a massive hypocrite the entire time, then those artists will purge their catalogs and pretend they didn't do that. Then the cycle repeats every 4 or 5 years while they all continue pretend they're not pedophiles.
Why not?
No one cared for YEARS if people cracked to underaged characters, only time someone get called out is if they look like toddlers which it was kinda rare to see back then but degens gotten worst.
neck yourself prudecuck
Do we need to pull up that one chart? It's not an art community thing, it's a general men thing.
but it's peak.
Excuse me, I like my wonen to be hypermasculine like black men with bald hair and huge jaws. You knpow why? becasue I am an University graduate, I am an Intellectual, I am letftist and I am an ally.
and I like my Bulls how I like my wonen.
cause it's her hottest version both in design and personality all her age up redesign lose what makes her hot the best they can do is slap some tits on the 10-year-old design and make her taller but keep the personalities the same
I mean, maybe, but I'll readily admit I'm not a common man here. I find a lot of popular women who are supposed to be attractive gross and old. I keep turning down horny fanart of my waifus because they've been given age-ups and boob jobs.
best they can do is slap some tits on the 10-year-old design and make her taller but keep the personalities the same
I fucking hate that shit.
You know she's 10, I know she's 10, we all know she's 10. You just making her slightly taller and giving her tits won't change that fact so don't bother.
Either draw her as loli or don't draw that version of ehr
Pedos like bratty, know-it-alls. Because that is what their weebshit groomed them into.
I don't got any problem with loli (in fact I'm quite the connoisseur) I'm just answering the question in the tweet
muh pedos
muh groom
Shes a cartoon character
No, I wasn't angry at you, I was angry at the artists that draw her like that.
I either want her to be a the loli or I want her to be the adult form.
I don't want a cope, half way compromise because they're afraid of being yelled at on Twitter.
I think it's mostly people who grew up on Ben 10 having a crush on her and it just stuck. Seeing porn is like that childhood fantasy reaching it's extreme.
Reminds me of Misty from Pokemon with people who are a little older. Funny how they're both redheads. At least Gwen has versions of her that grew up to be a full grown woman.
couldn't be that the people jerking off are also underage
But both Misty and Gwen are really hot though
you do you, man.
simple fact is some people don't really grow past their childhood waifus
She's cute, she's funny, she's quite a bit bratty
I hate that normalfags invaded fandom. People didn't place fiction within the same realm as reality so hard. Men and women could enjoy fictional "problematic" concepts without much pushback since fandom wasn't invaded by normies yet.
Now fictional characters have to be treated like they're real.
Eventually it just became "if she's badass and snarky its ok" because the internet is so obsessed with badass snarky smug women they're forgo previous rules so they can draw gwen stomping a dick or azula pinning you down with sharp grinning teeth. THEN it's ok if they're underage.
I never really had many waifus as a child. They're primarily an adult development for me. I mean, I'm an adult. The waifus are still children.
Kys homo
define 'sexualized'
then explain why that's a problem. like, what can you "do to" a fictional character that is somehow wrong. that'd be like expecting a medal because you did something nice to one.
Because we were both 10 when my crush for her started
Same. I don't consider it weird because she's basically as old as me.
Because Anon Babble is full of tasteless pedophiles who still think lipstick = ugly.
These past few months I've gotten the feeling that is a good two scoops of cute and funny cake eaters on Anon Babble but they and their threads get drowned out by obnoxious moralfags (who are probably projecting) and birchy.
Kys roastie
I hate cunnyfags but lipstick is ugly. sorry.
fuckin clown bullshit.
unless you're a sexy clown, I guess.
Don't know who this rostie is, but they sound based.
If you want to see a fag, look into a mirror
kys toddler-character-liker
most fans
speak for yourself faggot
You sound like you like lip fillers and bolt on tits
she's a precocious girl with an appealing design
what did they expect?
For me it's 2016 Gwen.
This, they totally butchered in AF; they sabotaged any chance of an older Gwen getting more traction.
Omniverse tried to fix her but she still looked ugly.
Because they are cartoons, and that rarely translates to real life. They speak like adults, think like adults and in turn are more so like adults. Even their designs can be ambiguous to age. Also, some simple features, such as the right colors for skin and hair, and eye design are enough to set off a hard on.
Thats because moral white knighting faggots have been a nuisance to the art community since the mid 2000's. Most guys like these faggots , fap to some horrible rl stuff, but overcompensate to either feel superior or to lay low from criticism for their own fapping preferences.
I don’t really care what weirdos do in the privacy of their own home, but they need to drop the “it’s just a drawing, bro” cope.
If you jerk off to drawings of men, you’re gay.
And if you jerk off to drawings of kids, well…
Cartoon characters always look more attractive without pronounced lips; its not even a man thing, women also hate male characters with lips.
Why even bitch about it if you don't care? I don't like feet or fat characters but I don't go into those spaces and bitch at them.
Like it's really not rocket science why the only attractive Gwen designs are the ones getting all the art.
I don’t care if someone jerks off to drawings of children.
I do care about honesty. There’s no need to be ashamed of what you are (provided you don’t act on your urges or consume CSAM).
I saw someone once argue that the reason there's such a sharp divide between lolifags and actual pedofags is because lolis are basically elves or succubi, just in the same vein slutty porn stepmothers, they're so divorced from anything that actually exists that it comes off as being into cat girls or werewolf bitches or whatever and occupies the same psychological niche vs what pedofags want which is rooted more in a fantasy about something that actually exists.
It's kind of like all those fags into incest porn but who thinks their relatives are sexually unappealing, the whole "being related" thing is essentially just the same as an succubus being from hell, it's basically just part of this fictional entity's identity within the fantasy.
Because her design is so great it transcends any moral barrier.
Because she looks good, is the best version of her design, and is old enough to have raised new artists.
Personally, I consider this unconvincing cope from people who are extremely dishonest with themselves. I'm not attracted to drawings of little girls because I see them as some entirely different type of thing. I'm attracted to drawings of little girls because they're drawings of something I find attractive (little girls). I enjoy cartoon art styles because I have artistic taste, but when I waifu a cartoon character, I am implicitly saying that I believe they would be extremely attractive if translated well into a real person.
It is imperssive just how well they hit with her and how bad they missed with every version of her after. At least the reboot's was kind of cute and the freckles one of them had later was a nice idea. Just that none could compete with the original.
adolescent boys are horny. Gwen is a classic crush for a generation of boys.
I mean it tracks? I don't like kids, don't want kids and couldn't afford them if I wanted them anyway. But I've liked characters like Gwen or TT Raven or Princess Eilonwy from Black Cauldron (who is still my favorite) since those cartoons first broadcast. It's just my fucking weirdo fetish I guess. I do get very upset when irl stuff gets mentioned, or even 3dcg stuff since it makes me feel super uncomfortable in the same way. I don't have the vocabulary to fully articulate what I'm trying to say, but I guess it's like that furry vs zoophile or role-playing incest vs actually liking your sister kinda thing.
Aside of her design, it's also her personality, her way to call Ben a dweeb and her way of fighting with magic & martial art was even more based. How can we not love OG Gwen?
It is just a cartoon and no one gets hurt by wacking off to cartoons, prude
why do all of you ignore en.wikipedia.org
This is close, but not quite. Based on my observation, the way people sexualize drawings can be really fucking different.
A. Representational. Some people for some crazy reason will look at a drawing and interpret it as a depiction of a thing they want in real life. Like their brain will transmorph a drawing they see into a real life object in their mind’s eye. Or in this case, a 2D girl into a 3D one.
B. Literal. Some people are attracted TO THE DRAWING. Like, the lines and shapes are hot. Like, you want to fuck THE CHARACTER visually, as is.
Real lolicons do not want a stand in for “the real thing”. They don’t play shooting games to fantasize about murder. They don’t jerk off to cartoons wishing it was something else. They like the cartoon, ACTUALLY. Some of them are even fucking autistic about being on model and shit. People will argue about characterization, or even a facial expression. The attraction is to the literal anthropomorphic cuteness of cartoon characters. Lolicon started in japan as the first real big wave of rule 34 over there because people wanted to fuck Tezuka-style cute characters. They had access to more realistic gekiga art depicting young characters, but they wanted the tezuka characters because they were cute. Cuteness is one of the elements of femininity, and for guys who value that more, and are attracted to literal drawings, lolicon is the perfect fit. Characters aren’t people, they don’t look or act like them. It really is just a case of not getting it, paranoia or an excuse to wish death on somebody in a publicly acceptable way.
Think something through here, there are people who want to fuck the animated horses of MLP.
If you break down why that might be the case and it's certainly not usually because they're horses.
Why?
It’s exactly this. I am attracted to the cartoons in the most literal way possible. I get off to good line weight and physically impossible traits like heart shaped pupils and pleasure lines. I want to Who Framed Roger Rabbit that ass.
redhead
green eyes
smug
Gee I wonder why
It's funny how the same logic isn't applied to straight shota or milf's. Drawn and game milf's are nowhere near real 35-60 year olds. Stretch marks, veins, ect are usually not drawn. It's not supposed to be a 1=1 but no one wants to bring the conversation to guro or inflation because for some reason this is the only issues normals care about. Also every time people talk about violence being different bring up flowers of flesh and blood and see what they respond with
I mean, I'm autistic about my cartoons being on-model but that's not because I'm not attracted to the real thing, it's just because I'm autistic about art in general. No point in engaging thoughtlessly.
I’m aware of that. But it’s obviously pedophilia. I think people just get offended because they think pedophile = child molester. Deriving sexual pleasure from depictions of children obviously makes someone a pedophile. No one would seriously argue that a man getting aroused by depictions of men isn’t a homosexual. But it doesn’t mean they’re going to harm anyone in either case.
yaoi, futa, twinks, gender bender, ect ect. Females consume yaoi in japan but arent homosexal. Check the writers for yaoi manga, usually have kids and a family
Have you seen Enchanted? Look up what the stepmother looks like in a drawing and what she looks like in live action and tell me that there can't be a significant gap between fiction and reality.
Just to clarify, I don't think that gap is as big as says, and I really think there is a correlation between fiction and reality, it would be strange if it didn't exist, but clearly there can be exceptions or variations in the magnitude of that correlation.
No one would seriously argue that a man getting aroused by depictions of men isn’t a homosexual
This actually does happen with things like femboys. It's practically a meme that the people most attracted to femboys/traps are straight men.
Lolis are hot no matter what their backstory is. They could be a 500 year old dragon, I don’t care. The drawing is what is attractive. I’m also attracted to chibi characters and other cute things. It’s not pedophilia because a drawing isn’t a child. There’s no attraction shown to anything other than the character on the paper. It’s objectophilia.
Well, yeah, and guys watching lesbian porn aren't lesbians, what's your point?
YEAH! it's kinda what i meant to say hereIt's like, the design, the flow, the shape, the faces, the poses. It's the way different artists put their own unique styles and features on a character. The shading, the line weight, the different ways they draw the eyes, how they sketch or how they render. It's just the best when it all comes together and makes the girl really pretty or really hot. Nothing in this world can come close to ever being as amazing as that. Putting down lines and colors to be an amazing illustration or, if I may crude, a really sexy piece of cake.
men can jerk off to yaoi or futa and not be gay
Lolis are hot no matter what their backstory is. They could be a 500 year old dragon, I don’t care.
Disagree on that. I find the "excuses" like that unpleasant; I hate "all the characters in this game are over the age of eighteen" crap. The character needs to be literally young and vulnerable to properly appeal to me.
By realizing Ben 10 was cringe
I think that gendering the drawing is the biggest line in the sand sexuality can manage. You’ll see that the exact same drawing labled a male will get a different reaction, it’s at the core of our psyche down to our bones.
BUT
You’re still wrong. There are people who will only cross gender lines in 2D. Women who like anime girls, men who like anime guys. Japan has a meme that bishonen don’t count.
I’m not 2D exclusive (I like of-age women too) but illustrated characters attract me in a way no human ever can, and vice-versa. It’s a different thing.
Well, we’re different on that front. Do you think you’re a pedophile?
Oh good I’m not crazy or alone on this rock.
"Think" doesn't seem like a strong enough word for it. Happy to be alone, though. Escapism is fun.
The nu-internet is really no-fun allowed.
Having internet should be a privilege.
Oh don't get me wrong, I still lust over real women. I really love Latina and Afro-Latina women, especially when they have curly hair. I love textured hair on Latin women. My 2D lust is just that other side of my monkey brain. I don't get these guys though, I'm looking at form and quality not head spacing a power dynamic. I would be suspicious of people like that In my space, but maybe I'm just a prude.
Gender is deep down in your lizard brain. Ask someone if their car “is” a girl or a boy car, and then tell them you feel the opposite, and watch their reaction. We’d look at a “girl” rock differently. I don’t think it’s the same with age.
Eh that's not so bad.
Apes together strong:)
Cartoon girl as a kid
Looks the same just shorter
Cartoon girl as an adult
Looks the same just taller
This why this isn't an issue, it's actually weird Gwen doesn't follow this, Ben does.
Too blobby for my taste, but you do you I guess.
She's spunky and in need of correction.
Heh...Spunk
honestly who fucking gives a shit, im wondering if they'll ever do another good ben 10 series which will probably wont happen seeing the current industry is full of massive fags
She sure wants to be spunk hard
Another? Was there already one?
Sultry Summer’s getting kind of fun again. I’m happy to see a bit more shipteasing instead of pure focus on eroticism.
Bro there’s five main series.
Nevermind I just saw “good” lmao disregard
another good ben 10 series
Let the show rest.
Sure is a bizarre coincidence that most anti-lolifags inevitably get caught with real CP or grooming real minors.
Must be unrelated, definitely not projection or anything like that.
Does seem to happen a lot oddly.
It's funny when people like don't care about loli shit at all because the antifags will spreg and the profags will be like COME ON MAN ANIME CUNNY
COME ON MAN CARTOON CUNNY
arachnophobes secretly fuck spiders
yawn get new material
If you’re not bothering me I’m not bothering you. Milfs more your thing, right on dude.
No it’s actually happened at least 3-4 times publicly. Must be like a Anon Babbleack who’s into interracial kinda thing.
ben 10 is a great show if you're 5-9 years old
I don't know what you'd get out of it if you were a teenager or older.
Personally it's just a character design/size difference thing for me, I like the other extreme of large amazon women as well.
While I think that a lot of it is just carry over from stuff we used to beat off to as kids ourselves I think a lot of lolicons are just looking to fill that higher dopamine quota from their over consumption of porn.
You can see it happening in real time as AI generated stuff becomes the norm and blurs that line between what's real and what's at best extremely questionable, it's why I don't use ATF anymore because most of that shit is one level of complexity away from getting that whole site b& and v&
These two fool around when grandpas not looking
Gwendolyn, my beloved.
look fat
why doesn't he get it?
Hell, the head of a UN taskforce that was all about pressuring the Japanese into censoring loli out of anime was caught in a child trafficking ring.
About the only ones who aren't just projecting outrage as a smokescreen are the hood weebs and tourists, but the opinions of shonen-slop retards and normies are hardly worth the energy of typing.
Charmcaster is better anyway