Why doesn't Batman just fix Gotham with all his money?
Why doesn't Batman just fix Gotham with all his money?
just give everyone a fish bro, fuck teaching them how to fish
retard
Do you want a meta reason or what?
Put more effort into your bait threads, anon. I'm sure you're eager to get back to sucking cock but the dick'll still be there if you take a bit more time on your threads.
Even twitter leftists hated this comic lmao
Doesn't work in real life. Burgerland spends the most on education only to get shit results. Dem programs never work in anything.
Oh shit is it time for another thread where we talk about all the charities and jobs he gives out as Bruce Wayne when he's not fighting crime and saving people as Batman? Don't forget to make another thread about how Superman should stop all international conflict and cure cancer so we can show how he does just that but it never really sticks.
Why doesn't he put the whole world in a bottle?
People didn't get better with COVID checks, how would universal batman income change anything?
The only mistake here is Gotham thinks it can rehabilitate people and not just immediately killing them off once they become too much of a problem. It's not Batman's job to do that.
another BLoud thread
Batman when he equally gives his wealth away to all Gothamites, but half of them just use that money to buy guns and steal
low income doesn't cause high crime. High crime rates cause areas to have low income. This is like economics 101
this is funny because tanzania actually tried this once and all they got was an incredible amount of crime because the military groups that roam around were taking the money from the people and using it for weapons and stuff, I imagine if batman did this every single crime lord in town would be sending their crooks to punch hobos and single mothers for their money on pay day. the only way batman can save Gotham is executing the super villains that live there
Surely giving Gothamites money will solve the Bane or the Ra's or the Joker problem
MAN WHY ISN'T THE COMIC ABOUT THE GUY IN THE BAT SUIT FIGHTING THE CLOWN ACTUALLY BASED IN ADDRESSING SYSTEMIC POVERTY AND SOCIAL ISSUES
I WANT A COMIC ABOUT BATMAN BEING A COMMUNIST AND DISCUSSING THEORY FOR 30 PAGES, I WANT DETECTIVE COMICS TO BE ABOUT NOTHING TO DO WITH DETECTIVE STUFF
The Dark Knight was a mistake.
They have a point that the reality of Bruce Wayne and Wayne Enterprises does shackle the role Batman can actually have in solving anything, but god forbid we stop having Bruce Wayne be poor, let alone have Batman be someone else. Really these are all just stories that have gone on too long and gotten too big and stupid to tell anymore.
People forget so easily that Gotham has an Arkham ASYLUM, not just a prison.
The fact is Batman beats up people who work with the criminally insane, like a lady that wants to murder men to feed her plants or the (rightfully) sad dude who's wife is an icicle.
People commit crimes cause they're evil not to survive.
Why should he give his money away for free? What the commie bullshit is that? That wouldn't fix shit anyways.
If they ever do a new Injustice game, they should have Batman be the new big bad of that one, basically having taken over the world.
And instead of making everyone Superman-level strong with pills, all the stronger heroes have been forcefully powered down.
all the
ironic since this is the only job he has ever given out as Bruce Wayne. But it's the same single instance you've been fed by social media without reading the comics, so it's the same one you spam. He never gives out jobs, but he does repeatedly and actively stop criminals from reforming.
Superman also never stops any international conflicts or cures cancer. In fact in most stories he gets asshurt at his villains and rivals for stopping international conflicts instead of being passive fart-sniffers like himself. He's stood by and allowed a genocide to happen onscreen in Libya while refusing to help or stop it (JLAS). This is the whole reason The Outsiders were founded. (WSFTJAW, JLA Superpower, Kyle Rayner)
There's also Blackgate for the normal people, like Penguin when he doesn't plead insanity.
Batman had no retort when Scarecrow pulled this argument on him and Gordon had to reassure him with a cope that because Scarecrow is a villain, his argument is wrong
He does, the issues are threefold
Ace Chemical is pouting the environment and giving the locals brain damage but are so legally protected nothing can be done.
Lazarus Pit runoff is causing people to have their positive emotions hollowed out over time.
The City is filled to the brim with curses and dark magics, like I think Darksied even has his tainted presence there in some way.
Batman can give out all the jobs and aid he wants. But the land the city is built upon will twist anyone living in it.
Ah yes, Penguin, Black Mask, Ra's al Ghul, etc. just need therapy and welfare to stop doing evil. Lmao.
His superpower is that any money he spends on articles not Bat-related is transformed into Zimbawe Dollars.
The mafia will switch to becoming research scientists if they just got that Batman stimmy
Corrupt officials hiding behind the law to prevent any real long term impact, ancient curse, whatever else the writer may decide. These sort of "I'm going to apply extremely specific real world logic to the most surface level interpretation of a fictional premise" comics always come off as cheap and lazy.
Superheros by thier nature can't or won't allow the world to change for the better.
Thier role in the story doesn't allow them to create a world that doesn't need them forever.
Asking these questions is like asking why most romantic comedies solve all their problems through bullshit true love and asinine hijinx:
That's what the story is.
Realistically even, people like the Joker would've been killed by someone by now.
Not Batman, just another human being with a GUN.
He's not that good, no human beats a gun. Batman for as good as he is, should've been killed by a start bullet any point in his stories.
But, the narrative makes these guys untouchable.
Because you have to, in order to sell these books.
give everyone 1500 dollars
criminals now know that everyone has an extra 1500 on their pockets
crime rate quadruples on a single night
Isn't there a Jonah Hex comic that shows that way back in the olden days Gotham was cursed to always be a crime ridden hellhole?
I think it was an issue of All Star Western, which is absolute kino btw.
Why doesn't Batman use the Bat computer to run a statistical analysis on the crime doers to see if he can find any kind of pattern to it all?
cowboys are lame
by a STRAY bullet...
Sorry, I mistyped.
Pretty much all of the supervillains are white
What was meant by this?
Batman Inc
That's the one where he literally tells a guy that he'll pay him to punch furries if only he could shut down all the community services he's been performing.
Then he builds robots to punch those furries and probably keeps the guy in an office somewhere to keep him from returning to performing community services.
Doesn't it apply to Scarecrow too? He could've devoted himself to wiping out mental illness, but he used his knowledge of psychology and pharmacology to make a toxin that makes people scared and dress up to rob banks.
Scarecrow has a higher education and it didn't stop him from doing crimes.
woweee zoweeee mr rich bucks could pay half of 1 month of rent. somebody call in the redguard. we fixed all our peoblems. turns out it was all about rearranging fiat
whats missed here, and by every leftist because they are these people, is that criminals arent criminals because theyre poor. theyre criminals because they lack empathy. it's fundmental to their being.
Scarecrow specializes in hallucinations and false illusions?
I've never seen Batman "beat up muggers" he's always out to get the crimelords orchestrating everything.
Spend all Bruces money on good causes and there would have been less crime in Gotham? I don't buy that for a second.
And it's the same problem too. The system is corrupt to its core. The reason our public education is so shit is partially because a bunch of nameless administrators in the superintendent office get all the money and most of it vanishes before it even reaches the schools
I've never seen Batman "beat up muggers"
Cmon now anon even you aren't this in-denial
find me that verse in the bible
Realistically even, people like the Joker would've been killed by someone by now.
Not Batman, just another human being with a GUN.
Just imagine being some wage-slave EMS driver working in Gotham and you have to drive the Joker back to Arkham from whatever hospital Batman dropped him off at after beating him half to death.
You drive an ambulance so you know a lot about the Joker and what he does to people since you work in the medical field. Even if you've never treated someone laughing themselves to death from Smile Gas, you've still seen all the property destruction and knock-off effects from his constant domestic terrorism: traffic accidents resulting from getaway attempts, crowd stampede victims, you could go on and on and on.
So you're driving through the long stretch of woods back to Arkham, you hear him giggling to himself in the back, you feel the weight of the gun at your hip (you work in Gotham, of COURSE you're strapped) so you just decide "Fuck it. I'm going to pull over and shoot him in the face." I'd do it. I'd do it nine times.
Batman owes you nothing. Be grateful that he's doing anything at all to fight crime.
I hate to defend this shit argument, but Batman's whole mission started because a mugger killed his parents.
Sure muggers may not all want to kill random parents, but Bruce sure as hell isn't going to take that chance.
nah you wouldn't
Batman can absolutely buy any number of city elections. Combine that with him breaking and entering houses to find dirt on people, he would've cleared the city within two election cycles.
But apparently that's 2real for these comics.
Several members of the batfamily have their origins from Batman beating up muggers
Harper Row's was just "I saw Batman beating up le homophobes and I wanna beat up chuds too!"
How would this stop the Joker from gassing a high school so that he can draw a giant dick on the football field with the dead bodies?
People will strangle their babies for crying too loud. Someone will shoot the clown.
It's an isolated miniseries, this scarecrow isn't a bankrobber, he's just morbidly curious to forcing Batman into a therapy session against his will
It's also honestly kinda boring lmao, does anyone really want to read about politicians?
I wouldn't have to, because there are no penises in their universe.
You're confused, there are penises in the DCU, they just don't masturbate.
Maybe if the politicians fought crime with their bare hands and a variety of gadgets.
A guy tried to shoot Joker once after Joker killed his wife in front of him.
Batman arrested him and locked that man in Arkham for the rest of his life.
You wouldn't, you're just a chicken and a coward and a psychotic who would get sent to Arkham too.
The only people who can get away with implying that penises even exist are confused foreign artists, and they're all eventually told to drop it.
Batman can absolutely buy any number of city elections.
That's corruption, and being caught with that would be much worse than the general population finding out that bruce is batman
This. Additionally, anyone who thinks that the long-term poor are victims has never met anyone who's managed to spend their entire goddamned lives in poverty. The vast majority of poorfags are poor because of continual bad life choices that they refuse to stop making.
Why aren't they shooting him instead of themselves?
Merchandising
We have photographic proof of Batman's penis, and let's not forget that sex and reproduction is also a thing.
In other words, penises exist.
Anon, I would hate him soooooo much and it would be soooooooooooo easy. So easy to just pull over, not even leave my fucking seat, pull out my gun, turn around, press the barrel direction to his head and pull the trigger 3 or 4 times.
No jury would convict me. I'd never have to buy a drink again in my entire life.
The Joker is bulletproof, everyone knows this
This is what the average Gothamite thinks before Joker anally rapes them with a rubber chicken.
No, that's just PACs doing their thing. It's completely legal and rather cheap as voter turnout in local election is low.
Within a couple years, there won't be anybody in any relevant position who isn't beholden to the Bat-PAC.
this isn't true.
Batman: Faces of Death. when Batman was wrongly accused of killing Joker (who had actually just escaped) the entire city went into a crazed mob demanding Batman's punishment for murder. They eventually caught him and almost tore batman limb from limb. That will be you
That one time some artist put a penis on him, management had the issue removed from circulation.
Clearly, humans in these comics don't descend from ducks.
Batman had no retort because the writers choose to. In reality either path wont be any diffetrent.
It was merely censored, the dick was still there.
Dicks exist, they've been mentioned, implied and even seen in bulges.
The Batman who Laughs series showed a bunch of alternate timeline Bruces where he did something with his life other than crimefighting
In one he becomes the mayor, and by choosing that he successfully and easily stopped all crime in Gotham. There's no retort to it either, Bruce at the end just accepts he's the 2nd most evil Bruce Wayne timeline after Batkek
Not all heroes wear capes.
Gotta love how hypocritical regular schmoes are in like 99.9% of superhero media when it comes to superheroes. They'll gleefully take it up the ass from supervillains, but turn into an unstoppable lynch mob the instant a superhero becomes unpopular
Didn't he end up being murdered by Batkek out of spite?
yeah he did. I think he was the first one Batkek killed just so Batman would see what he could have been
Those were exceptions that were specifically there to taunt Bruce, they're not applicable to actual mainline Gotham, just like how Batkek isn't applicable to mainline Bruce.
Didn't they give money to the poor and homeless in California? And that it made things fucking worse?
Here's some more welfare you poor poor man!
GIBS ME DAT!
I spit on you and rape your mother OP
Batkek is applicable to mainline Bruce. Bruce gets half a second away from becoming the next Batkek in that same story.
The whole point of the story was "this literally would have happened if you made better decisions"
Bruce gets half a second away from becoming the next Batkek in that same story.
But he doesn't, the end even implies he didn't because he's a better Bruce than Batkek.
The whole point of the story was "this literally would have happened if you made better decisions"
The whole point of the story was that Batkek was literally just talking shit and shouldn't be trusted, he's not the first villain to try to get to Batman and won't be the first, he was just more personal because he was also Bruce.
It’s just like that old saying goes, rape a man once and he’s a victim, teach a man to rape and he’s a predator.
That explains why Batman never took Gordon's advice on dealing with the Joker
won't be the first
*the last, you get what I meant.
The whole point of the story was that Batkek was literally just talking shit and shouldn't be trusted
Post a single page from the comic that says Batkek was making it up about the other Bruces
Even Bruce himself accepted and said the other one were real and came to terms with the fact the other versions were real. He just accepted "I may not be perfect, but i'm still good enough"
you're lame
They were real because they were there, but my point is that nothing Batkek says is actually worth listening to because he was literally just a living nightmare, my point is that the other Bruces were real, but they still weren't applicable to mainline Bruce, with the multiverse, nothing really is.
He just accepted "I may not be perfect, but i'm still good enough"
That's what Batman thinks, but I liked Alfred's interpretation better.
They probably gave them enough for drugs, but not enough to rent a sleeping pod.
So drugs it was.
This is true (in DCEU)
Oh brother.
KEKAROOOOO
Batkek is literally Batman if he chugged the Joker Kool-aid. Batman outright goes "By YOUR standards, I'm the worst Batman", which is like basically saying to Hitler "By your standards, I'm the worst Nazi around". Batkek's assessment of Batman's character is as worth listening to as Joker's usual ramblings about how nothing matters, except it's worse cause it's just Batman's own negativity magnified.
This is the kind of shit they put in parodies.
Because it's capeshit and the main attraction is to see Batman beating up thugs.
why do liberals think that poor = criminal?
Giving Gotham residents a bunch of money is the most retarded thing you could do. Bane threatening to nuke Gotham is a smarter plan than giving Gotham's seedy underbelly a free check.
Joker thug #43: What are you gonna do with your money?
Joker thug #51: Buy a gun and shoot my bitch wife. You?
Joker thug #43: Drugs. I can just stab my landlord if he cries about rent
the only way batman can save Gotham is executing the super villains that live there
The funny thing is, most of Gotham's problems aren't even necessarily caused by supervillains, just gangsters. People seem to forget that like a third of Batman's villains have next to nothing unusual about them and are more or less just normal mob bosses.
A good number of Batman's villains are annoyances at best, like Catwoman, or can easily be contained by the narrative equivalent of jingling keys in their face.
Get your retarded champagne socialist shit out of here. It’s a fucking comic book, if you don’t like how it goes bitch to the writers that force the status quo.
Bruce isn't teaching anyone anything, he is just spending money on cool things to routinely beat the shit out of the same 20-ish people over and over again.
That still doesn't resolve the multitude of ancient curses or lazrus runoff in the groundwater.
....Did Biden giving everyone $1500 reduce crime overnight? I feel like we have some actual evidence to refute this comic now.
Supergirl sold Batman a kryptonian sourcedoc that can specifically cure cancer. Batman never did anything with it or shared it.
Superman gave Batman a piece of platinum kryptonite that can give regular people Superman powers. Batman only let his sidekick Gotham Girl use it and noone else.
Batman has over 100 Billion Dollars liquid, and has never spent any of it on lobbying against foreign dictators
Batman knew a genocide was going to happen in Libya, then attacked and tried to arrest Libyan hero Antaeus for trying to intervene in it. It happened anyway and Batman and the League did nothing to interfere.
Batman arrests little kids sometimes with no due process or crime other than being near or living on the same premises as his villains. Arkham has a children's wing where his villains often source their child hostages under duress.
Gotham has dozens perhaps hundreds of homeless orphans living in the sewers since No Man's Land when they all escaped Arkham. Most of them were orphaned by the Joker. Batman, though he's been aware of them since No Man's Land, does nothing to help them.
Batman successfully invented a machine in the batcave that perfectly clones his own body and keeps a running backup of his memories to inject into it in case he ever dies, granting him immortality. He has never donated this technology to medicine, even though several of his villains like Mr Freeze and Clayface simply would not exist if he did this.
So the Wayne Foundation is made to beat the shit out of people?
now posts the next social media screencap
FROM A NONCANON CARTOON
thanks for proving to everyone here you don't know what you're talking about, or even read the shit you post
You just repost the images you're fed from Twitter
By that logic, people should be throwing shit at The Flash all the time cause he's not stopping literally every rape on the planet at the same time with the speed force
Yes, The Designer arc showed he uses the Wayne Foundation to launder money under the government's noses, which he funnels into his gizmos like the Batmobile.
I do throw shit at Flash for this
Are you guys fucking high?
Like for real is this what you would like to read about? Is this what you think that ANYONE wants to read about?
26 pages every month of Bruce Wayne writing checks?
Be honest.
he's not stopping literally every rape on the planet at the same time with the speed force
What makes you think he's not the one doing the raping?
That's Reverse Flash
Yes I know you need to trivialize and act like this never happens so you can satisfy your retarded hateboner for a fictional character while preaching the same gay narrative about how rich people are evil in a comic about a guy that fights clowns and space aliens. Let me guess you’re going to say the Wayne Foundation isn’t canon? Or will it not matter because Batman didn’t cure cancer or stop the voices in your head from telling you you’re a failure. I would say to take this shit back to Anon Babble but you’re only here because you got booted out when you made yourself look like a fucking idiot. So now you have to cry about political shit on the fucking comics and cartoon board.
Nobody honestly does. People just like trying to "prove" superheroes are childish and unrealistic, since apparently the goofy circus costumes, dramatic acting and doofy stupid sound effects aren't enough to convey it
I presumed that was Zoom
Sure it does, and I suppose all the buildings and other shit it’s funded are all just holograms.
He was fucking up a Loud House thread of all places
That isn't really a fair comparison though, because a lot of what that anon said are far more reasonable and easy to achieve
That being said, I don't know about what half of the things he's referring to are referencing and some of them sound suspiciously "too good to be true", making me think they're either lacking important context or placing too much stock in Gold/Silver age "here's a macguffin with absurd implications that will never be mentioned again" stuff
Cool!
far more reasonable and easy to achieve
Flash stopping rape in atomseconds is literally more doable than throwing money at things to end poverty.
Seriously? So it’s another mindbroken schizo using Anon Babble as his personal tantrum chamber?
people resort to crime to survive
No, people commit crime because they want the riches of the world but they don't want to work for it. It's a type of person that does that, not a poor person trying to get money to survive, that's just the excuse they give the judge.
Crime being caused by laziness, lack of empathy, low impulse control, low intelligence, and a culture that glorifies it is more accurate.
Yes I know you need to trivialize and act like this never happens
trivialise what?
That you don't read the twitter scans you post, and had to try and sneak in a noncanon example from a cartoon, because it never happens in the real comics and so you can't even post a real one?
All you can do is cry and whine that people who do read the comics judge the character fairly, instead of self-inserting like you are and crying because you're a retard who can't support the shit you make up in your head, and instead just look to twitter for all your opinions on something you're not astute enough to read for yourself.
Yeah, for what it's worth, >"Batman successfully invented a machine in the batcave that perfectly clones his own body and keeps a running backup of his memories " is either a reference to Batman The Last Knight on Earth or a modern thing that was created just as a plot device to give the Zurr-En-Arrh possessed Failsafe robot a Robin sidekick in the form of Batman's younger clone. And both are as dumb as they sound.
The implication though is that Flash should spend 100% of his time sprinting around the world stopping rapes (or, crimes more generally) without resting.
more doable than throwing money at things to end poverty
Except half the things that anon mentioned were specific actions Batman (supposedly) failed to undertake when he had the opportunity, not just "give people money".
what buildings? The earliest and only reference to that I can remember is the Court of Owls when they were gonna rebuild old marble architecture (which never ended up happening cause the story). Even Harper Row said the same as I, none of it helped anyone in poverty like her and her brother.
And I like your vague use of "other shit" since you couldn't name anything concrete lmao
Here's how Batman could actually save Gotham.
give everyone on earth a flash rape alarm
now Flash can race to the location whenever someone signals
Not foolproof but that's 90% of rapes just gone
trivialise what
The fucking comic, but I suppose that everything you don’t like is either non canon or doesn’t matter all so you can continue this tantrum of bitching that a character that has a history of actually helping people is just an asshole because to you fictional rich people can’t do good.
All you can do is cry and whine that people who do read the comics judge the character fairly
You literally tried to write off a guy that posted an example of Batman helping someone by saying he doesn’t do it again and then when something was shown you said it was non canon when that is an utterly asinine thing to say in a series with a fucking multiverse.
instead of self-inserting
Nice cope, I see you think that everyone that is sick of retards like you using comics and media as your own personal political propaganda machine are just “self inserting”.
has mentioned twatter multiple times
Is that where you’re coming from? Did you lose an argument there and are coming here to cry and shit your pants because you lost to some other retard?
Wait a minute niggers.
You guys just want Batman to BE a fascist. You want a rich man with full control of Gothan... that has the entire population paid and reliant on him to function, for all politicians and police to be under his pocket and picked based on his industry's money, shaped by his ideals. You also want Batman to be the one that decides who live or dies in Gothan bypassing laws.
You niggers just want to submit to an ubermensch. You CRAVE fascism.
That's literally the logical conclusion.
Orphanages, Hospitals, that kind of shit.
none of it helped anyone in poverty
Almost like throwing money at something isn’t going to just fix everything and people have to actually put in the effort instead of blaming everyone and everything they can.
and I'm sure cowboy's don't think too highly of you either
The noncanon things are noncanon
Things don't become canon just because your manbaby self-insert looks bad if they're not.
Here then: this is canon now. Bats said so himself
posted an example of Batman helping someone by saying he doesn’t do it again
because he doesn't
So let's total up the tally:
In canon Batman has done:
countless atrocities and examples of preventing hundreds of criminals from reforming or getting jobs (batman: love bird)
out of hundreds of criminals he actively stopped from reforming, he let 1 (one) single girl get a job
Outside of canon, he has 1 other instance of helping anyone, and 1 other instance of admitting he does nothing to help anyone.
So in conclusion, there are not "all the charities and jobs he gives out " like you desperately tried to lie about, there are all the jobs he stopped people from getting, and the 1 job he ever gave anyone.
Now you're crying and shitting your manbaby diaper because you can't back up the opinions you got from your twitter hivemind.
Get a life, loser, take your hurt feelings and go.
He never built any orphanages, in fact in Court of Owls it was shown only his parents ever built any orphanage and it turned into a rotten hellhole because Bruce didn't keep up their funding after his parents died.
He never built any hospitals. Gotham has only 1 main hospital and Leslie Thompkins has to keep up her own self-funded medical practice because Gotham has nowhere for most of injured and impoverished to go.
He never gives an ounce of money to these problems, or puts any effort to help these problems.
I do all that shit already. I also dress up as a bat and fight crime.
He doesn't do any of that though.
He is literally constantly donating moneyto fund things like childrens hospitals, rebuilding infrastructure, and straight up hiring the undesirables to keep them from becoming goons again
In one of the comics he even had a video play of him as Bruce, promising a job if they stopped working for the baddie of the week
He didn't have to fight, they all left
Bruce Wayne is supposed to be the perfect billionare
How do you know?
Been said in several comics by several villains and allies.
I think the earliest was a Batgirl arc in the 90s that said so
The noncanon things are noncanon
Nothing is non canon when you have a multiverse retard, trying to use that as an excuse is just you saying you don’t like it so it’s not there.
your manbaby self-insert looks
How is it self inserting to point out things the character has done that contradict you narrative? So far you’re just making shit up to smear me because you have no way of actually defending your position.
In canon
All you have is trying to arbitrarily declare what is and isn’t canon because you have no way of actually arguing which is why you’re here throwing a tantrum about Batman in the first place.
Now you're crying and shitting your manbaby diaper
I always know I strike a nerve with retards like you when you just start repeating shit back to me and resort to “no u”.
Get a life, loser
Says the fag that is crying about Batman and was shitting up a Loud House thread. This better be just you trying to troll because if you’re serious this kind of histrionic shit just pathetic.
Yes he did, you keep resorting to your new 52 shit whole ignoring decades of comics of him doing philanthropic work all because you need to continue throwing your pathetic tantrum.
DC Multiverse has only 52 universes retard, all laid out plainly.
You would know this if you ever read the shit you cry about, which you don't. Cartoons aren't part of it.
Nothing is arbitrary of saying the actual, comic Batman everyone in this thread is talking about does not help people, then here comes you crying that he does because a cartoon by entirely different creators did so (and ignoring the examples of other noncanon cartoons who don't help either)
I'll say it again, stop projecting about however you cried on whichever Loud House thread, and get a life loser
Right but that's just the versions of batman who decided to have this take.
Plenty of others would simply say that batman does do all the good he could do as bruce wayne already.
I named the stories that showed he never built any orphanages.
You're crying like a manbaby and making vague platitudes about "decades of comics" without specifying which.
In which comic does Batman build an orphanage? Surely you can name it like I could, right crying manbaby?
histrionic faggot ignores decades of comics all so he can latch onto anything that supports his hateboner
Yup that figures
Nothing is arbitrary of saying the actual, comic Batman
Which one? The one that you declare matters most or every iteration throughout the years? Because so far you seem to continently be avoiding them because you know if you go beyond this arbitrary barrier that you’ll just look like another retard who needs to cry about fake rich people.
I'll say it again, stop projecting
You never said anything about projection, but nice slip. Maybe you shouldn’t be doing this in the state you’re in, especially since you clearly don’t have the emotional fortitude to handle it on twatter so Anon Babble is going to be much worse.
decades of comics
lmaooooo
and yet the only examples you could ever post, were the same 2 scans twitter reposts (1 of which isn't even canon)
If you had decades worth of scans you could actually post one that's real, or that's different, but you couldn't, because you can't read
Go back to twitter, since you obviously never read the comics you're currently wailing like a bitch about
You named a specific story that covers a small portion of the existence of a character that is nearly a century old.
You're crying like a manbaby
Saying you were crying really hit hard seeing as you keep bringing it up just to say “no u” over and over. It’s like a kid being told he’s dumb so he keeps saying it back getting angrier every time.
If only Batman spent his money on social programs, right? LOL
Is it a requirement that webcomics have to do this same self congratulatory deconstruction of Batman? This has already been done before, it wasn't funny then, it ain't funny now.
and you can't even name one, despite the century old character. Looks like I'm right!
Keep crying, little manbaby.
Glad to see you realized crying “not canon” isn’t going to work and now you have to trivialize in a different way. So let’s see here, there are examples of Batman helping people and him having a whole facility dedicated to it and all you can do is cope about that fact.
Go back to twitter
I would say the same to you but you clearly can’t or else you would end up having a brain aneurysm from getting btfo so badly by whatever stupid shit you tried and failed to argue.
you're currently wailing like a bitch
You’re fixating on this far too hard for it ti be anything but projection. Maybe follow your own advice and get a life instead of sperging out online over Batman.
It would honestly be really funny if they did a comic or two of Wayne running a publisher's clearinghouse type contest and showing up at peoples' homes with a giant check
The Thomas Wayne Memorial Clinic, let me guess that doesn’t count?
Keep crying, little manbaby
Projecting like this isn’t healthy.
Speaking of Thomas, I like that lately they've made Damian interested on being a doctor like him.
I know they won't retire him from the Robin role just yet, but it's still an interesting development for his character.
Are you really this fucking pathetic? And if you’re not him why would you choose this of all replies to do this instead of just randomly replying saying how you think it’s interesting.
Yes you do need a functioning government with rule of law for...anything to work, thats some deep insight thanks
I will never understand why DC continually publishes stories that attempts to nullify it's most successful property.
I think Batman should give his money to me :)
Just gonna point out that any version of Batman that decides to go with the angle that Bats already does plenty as Bruce Wayne isn't necessarily going to advertise the fact with a neon bright sign.
Bruce doing philanthropy naturally isn't as interesting as being being Batman and any writers deciding to go this angle likely don't have bone to pick with the matter. Unlike the writers who decide Batman neglects his duties as Bruce Wayne and so will totally write in things that draw attention to this.
Does Gotham just not have a normal jail or prison? Or did the guy have enough of a goofy themed outfit to qualify for Arkham?
Because the people that make this shit either suck off the idea of “The Batman” so he is right no matter what or they’re ideologues like OP that need to constantly seethe about characters being rich so they do shit like this to take them down a peg despite having the ability to have the character use their resources to do shit they complain about them not doing.
There’s Blackgate where the mooks and sane/saner criminals go.
Thomas Wayne Memorial Clinic, let me guess that doesn’t count?
Not him but, literally no. That's not an orphanage.
Have you not been reading the chain?
Because dressing up a bat and fighting another rich guy that looks like a penguin is funnier.
well he was asking for an orphanage and earlier a hospital. It's not a hospital either but ok.
Are the court of owls of Jewish descent? I highly doubt they would allow Batman to donate 1500 to poor people.
He saids things that help the overall living status, goddamit, you retarded nigger, he even blatantly state
Orphanages, Hospitals, that kind of shit.
Bruce doing philanthropy naturally isn't as interesting as being being Batman
That’s the thing, the reason it’s done seems to be not about being interesting but to have a shield against retards crying that Batman is just some rich asshole that beats up poor people.
Throw money at a problem and everything gets better. There's never any learned helplessness and definitely no corruption!
This is why Trump will have a third term.
Funding building and funding a public medical service is no different.
Erm.
Accidentally writes an extra s in his attempt to tariff The Penguin.
JOKER WINS AGAIN BABY! AHAHAHAHAHAH!
Just give everyone $1500 and let them blow it on stupid shit in a day or two and then crime is back up now because they want more
Great advice
Ok so he's made no orphanages and no hospitals, but he has made
that kind of shit
why you getting so butthurt lol. This isn't real.
I feel like it also kinda goes without saying, because of course Batman also helps Gotham in the "traditional" sense, it's kinda obvious, we're just not gonna usually focus on that cause it's kinda boring.
What's wrong with a tax incentive for doing something that helps society? I get that doing good should be its own reward but why is it so bad to reward people for doing it?
I would like to see more of this stuff and less of the revolving door
Some people really love the jackboot. But only because they fantasize themselves in said boots, never under the boots. But they can always lick them.
Why are you trying to act like this wasn’t said? Do you think someone saying some akin to etc. means it doesn’t count?
why you getting so butthurt lol
Projection isn’t healthy, but you know that.
I'm sure giving The Joker a universal basic income will keep him from poisoning Gotham's water supply.
when people talk about tax stuff for rich people and charities it usually goes like this:
charities are not taxable
create your own charity that doesn't actually do anything
donate tons of money to it and fake expenditures
And it's basically like a bank account you'll never get taxed for.
Same for donating artwork to museums actually. Not saying it's the same for fictional comicbooks, just irl all "charities" are scummy vehicles of fraud, none of them are legit
Because all billionaires are bad, this also applies to fictional superhero characters like Batman, I am very intelligent.
Also Paw Patrol is copaganda.
It’s funny because I really want to see a miniseries like this where it’s just Bruce doing philanthropy and watch how everyone just calls it boring. And then say that if they don’t like it then stop complaining that it’s not shown.
They should make that an April Fool special where it's just Bruce doing the most boring shit ever.
Do you think someone saying some akin
your grammar is so terrible I don't know what you're saying.
"ok goddamit you blatant retarded projection nigger"
any other buzzwords you got for the class?
I wouldn't say deep, but the anon has a point.
If you have a functioning government you don't need these ridiculous gotcha suggestions against unconventional vigilantism because there would be no crime that requires unconventional vigilantism.
Also it's a low blow, but you seldom ever find the people who throw out these things actually involved in any efforts to better things in their own areas or lives for that matter.
Woah... so deep.... #Justice4Alfred....
you sound very butthurt
what fucking robin is this lmao
I think the core matter is, how modern society views rich people have drastically changed in recent decades. There's always rich snobs that just enjoy being rich at the cost of the poor, been that way for countless years, but we've always admired the rich that do step down and try giving a shit with their money instead.
But these days the 1% is so detested and untrusted, mainly because of Elon Musk and Loogi, that your average Joe can't even trust philanthropy without thinking it was some sort of long con to avoid taxes or whatever Epstein-esque conspiracy island that person may or may not have.
your grammar is so terrible
This of course is all you can say given you can’t actually argue that all the bases weren’t covered
i don't know what you're saying
Alright let me show you what it was supposed to say “ Do you think someone saying something akin to etc. means it doesn’t count” so you’re telling me that because the “thing” in something wasn’t there you were completely able to understand what I was trying to say? Ironic you want to bitch about grammar when you can’t deduce basic shit like that.
gets mad about getting called out for projecting
Man this really is that hard for you isn’t it?
That’s the thing though this seems to not be your average Joe doing this but some a bunch of liberal arts grads that spend their time complaining about capitalism and the rich while they leech off of their upper middle class parents.
Says the samefag.
he is just spending money on cool things to routinely beat the shit out of the same 20-ish people over and over again
Maybe they should stop, then he wouldn't have to?
Translation of poorly drawn comic: I'm poor and it is a rich person's fault despite evidence of a skill issue
Well it has to be someone's fault, and you can't blame criminals.
just give everyone money
Didn't Dave Chappell already cover this?
Can't. Freeze needs to cure his wife and although the technology to cure her exists in the batcave he won't share it
Who made these? Because they seem to have little to no understanding of Batman or butlers work.
1. He does
2. Literally every fucking time batman stops doing batman stuff something bad happens.
Has he tried asking?
Some dumbass who doesn't understand the difference between a cop and a vigilante, essentially
Niggas who take fictional cops too seriously fucking annoy me.
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The whole thing is as mind-numbing as you'd expect.
The writing is just as lazy as the artwork, so at least it's consistent.
Someone who wanted to sound smart by running for the goal instead of stopping and asking "Am I saying something poignant? Or just saying "Batman bad because rich" because I didn't think that the whole rich angle was just an excuse to afford a batcave and all his crime gadget shit".
Why doesn't Batman build a border wall out of giant Trumps?
This has gotta be fake. No way there's this few labels in a Ben Garrison comic
Yeah and why didn't he fund to renovate Crime Alley all these years, money doesn't fix everything.
Why is the cost of living high in Gotham when it's a crime/terrorism riddled shithole? That should reduce the housing costs, like New York in the 70s.
anon when I say average, it's a generalization of *everyone* in say, The United States. Also there is precedent for not trusting rich people because they're either going to do stupid shit with their money, quietly evil shit, or just waiting to fuck you over someway or another.
This isn't a culture war thing, it's a generational mistrust sorta thing. Anyone who thinks the big rich man is gonna actually come save the day is a sucker. You're telling me poor kids don't also complain about the 1%? Stop baiting it back to "I hate da libooarlz". I'm trying to put an actual argument here.
The hell they are, they barely show off any of the cool new stuff.
Top Gun Maverick, there's some fucking propaganda, hell yeah.
Is that fucking Slenderman?!
They are? Isn't one of the major plot points of the entire Avengers series of films that the Avengers are unaccountable and do whatever they want without any official government backing... Making them completely the antithesis of military and police propaganda by making them anarchic vigilantes? I'm not entirely sure how Blade or Punisher are that either. Ghost Rider? I am not entirely sure where the military propaganda comes in because 99% of the time the military is the first shit to get absolutely rekt. Man of Steel has them rekt and has Superman threaten to rekt them at the end (after destroying their shit). Only Watchmen kinda makes propaganda on the military and that's really just done to establish Dr Manhattan becoming disillusioned with being a weapon so is it really propaganda when it's the guy going 'Man this sucks'?
Like it's OK to have these opinions but it'd be nice to back them up.
Telling a superhero this in-universe would be like telling someone part of a drug cartel that media like Breaking Bad glorifying their lawless behavior is impressionable to youths. It might be true, it might very well be how they got into the life even, but they still have nothing to do with the studios pushing the shit out.
He tries. Many times. It never works.
Always found it funny how Ben Garrison got so mindbroken by Anon Babble and Anon Babble he flipped sides and now does actual retarded shit instead of borderline retarded shit and now Anon Babble laps him up. SinFest too.
Fun fact: the U.S. military didn't like The Avengers because it made them look incompetent against a space invasion.
You could maybe make the argument that Captain America is military propaganda, since it's a pure hearted all-American that becomes superhuman with military technology and goes on to save the world from totalitarian evil. Although then you'd have to contend with him fighting against a branch of the government in cap 2 and finally just saying fuck it and going rogue in cap 3.
I'm pretty sure one of the reasons Gotham still has people is because it's relatively cheap to live in, compared to like, Central City or Metropolis.
Why am I not surprised, they probably have exercises where they reenact War of the Worlds just so they can 'prove' they could do better than the 1900s British army.
private philanthropy can only do so much.
also the people writing superhero comics are dumb as fuck
That's Mr. Bloom, everyone's favorite Batman villain!
He's fun in Task Force Z.
the people writing superhero comics are dumb as fuck
This should be a banner.
Exactly. Like the only way I can see it being propaganda is implying that the superheroes trying to stop a guy from destroying the world is a police/military analogue... Why is it bad if the police or military stop a bad guy from doing harm? I don't get it. Like where is the propaganda? Where are they portrayed as good?
I mean even in the original he comes to realise he is being used as propaganda and realises that ignoring all that, there are sometimes bad guys who really do need stopping. Like Red Skull. In fact, that shows the US military to be shit because it gets rekt by Red Skull backed Nazis. So not really propaganda.... Especially when, as I said, Steve literally resents that part of his job. It's a huge part of his growth as a character and him becoming a proper hero.
This isn't a culture war thing
It is, the people that push this shit aren’t the kind of people that bitch about the proletariat, and complain how he is a fascist.
Anyone who thinks the big rich man is gonna actually come save the day is a sucker
It’s a fucking comic book, the idea is that he is doing good shit and saving people and stopping crime. Trying to make it about systems and other shit is just going to be boring and gimp everyone involved.
You're telling me poor kids don't also complain about the 1%
No, I know I call that shit out, but I don’t go spouting champagne socialists talking points and acting like Batman is an oppressive force to keep the lower classes down.
Stop baiting it back to "I hate da libooarlz"
The more this goes on the more this sounds like you’re not seeing who is making this shit and who are the ones actually complaining about Batman. How many kids in a trailer park or ghetto do you think are going to say Batman is bad because he’s rich. They won’t because they don’t think like that they don’t see that bullshit they see fucking Batman fighting the Joker. The people that do think like that are the retarded “intelligencia” that constantly find shit to complain about and need to use media as a soapbox to spread their bullshit.
based
You've got a point, I guess it's been a while since I watched an MCU movie. I think the last one I saw was Deadpool & Wolverine in theaters.
I've only seen Marvel films if they've come on TV on I've been bored and streamed it online. Last one I saw in theatres was GotG3 and that was to spend time with my aged father who likes the series. But even I know that it's not really propaganda... Unless the propaganda is 'Military and cops are inept and have to rely on guys in silly costumes to save people'. Maybe that's his point? That it's shitting on the people who work in the military and police force by implying a guy in spandex could do better? I am truly baffled by his claim.
Almost like if you say 'something is propaganda' you immediately win because you've said propaganda and the zeitgeist knows that the word propaganda has a negative conation.
Matthew 25:14-30
29 For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
The point being that simply mooching off charity is of no use to anyone, including the moocher. People should instead make productive use of what is given to them in order to benefit themselves and others.
Like it's OK to have these opinions
Why? Because with all that you just said it seems to be utter bullshit that exists from a place of either delusion or ignorance.
This would all make sense... if Gotham wasn't literally cursed to be a shithole forever.
For most people it's only "propaganda" if they disagree with it.
It's "truth" or "facts" if they don't.
Why doesn't Batman just learn magic and uncurse the city? Is he stupid?
Too few midi-chlorians to do anything about it.
Something about him being sad about his parents or having nothing to lose.
I blame the Arkham games for the recent potrayel of "le Batman is billionaire that brutalizes homless people".
They're great games but it is Batman at his most needlessly brutal and asshole-ish.
Yeah I don’t really feel bad for the mooks especially given their dialogue sums up how fucking messed up they are and how we see them up and about in lock up in Arkham Knight so he’s not crippling them for life.
Its bloom, the whole point of his character is to say that even if there's no batman some random lunatic will decide to nuke the city for shits and giggles.
I remember when Sinfest was an actual feminist comic
Batman comics have horrible design. This can be any random shit of Deviantart
Simple Fact: Anything Superhero related that tries to convey some deep complex morality lesson about society or the human condition basically falls apart because of various factors about the world of superheros.
Cut Lex Luther a Check
Reed Richards is Useless
Status Quo is God
Our society and it's problems simply do not work in the comic book world of literal Gods, Aliens, Hyper Intelligent Scientists, and other Non-Humans so any moral lesson about the problems of our society fall apart because these people are not human. They have entire societies that are run by laws, morals, and technology that simply do not apply to any normal person.
Superman could improve the world just killing obvious dictators and autocratic governments. Who's going to object to Supes killing Putin and ending the war in Ukraine? Or destroying the CCP and overseeing China transition to a multi-party democratic government? Or forcing an end to the Israel-Palestine conflict?
Something Something, slippery slope and Superman turns evil and takes over the world.
Don't give me that horse shit.
He doesn't beat up mentally ill criminals. He's beating up criminals that are mentally ill.
You send a counselor or other to talk down poison ivy and that person is getting melted down to plant food.
These retards are non-negotiable, that is a simple fact in life.
That's because Burgerland's youth is less than 50% white.
These kinds of people are so smug that they always assume they are the most poignant person in the room and anyone who does not agree with them 100% is clearly an ignorant chud who doesn't know better or just trolling because deep down they know they are absolutely right and everyone else is wrong.
Thier role in the story doesn't allow them to create a world that doesn't need them forever.
I remember reading about that in My Hero Academia. The heroes there beat the big supervillain that tried to sink Japan into the Pacific Ocean, then decided to campaign to change society to prevent that kind of villain from ever occurring ever again. They focused on increasing mental health counseling, community outreach and cooperation, and finding places for everyone to coexist, regardless of superpower. And in doing so they wound up creating a society that has little need of superheroes.
As a result, natural disasters for heroes to need to intervene in and villains for heroes to beat up became rarer, and thus only the most skilled and most competitive of heroes could still pull off the profession. Many lesser heroes would have to hang up their capes and find civilian jobs instead. And many of the top-ranked heroes still had too much free time and had to pick up hobbies and other interests anyway.
So the heroes wound up "destroying" the concept of superheroes, the supervillain's original goal, in improving society for the better.
That is not why people become butlers...
Why doesn't Batman simply monopolize the weapon and drug markets of Gotham with his company and use those dependent on his products to reorganize the city to his will?
this way of thinking is fucking retarded
do people do not realize that the huge majority of cases the people is just fucking shit?
Superheros by thier nature can't or won't allow the world to change for the better.Their role in the story doesn't allow them to create a world that doesn't need them forever.
Say what you want about Invincible but I did like how it had the balls to acknowledge and subvert this.
city is LITERALLY cursed
the mafia is still around
half the police force are probably on the take from said mob
plus actual villain led mobs like Penguin or Black Mask
not to mention the actual powered supervillains
The fact that the Batfamily has like a dozen members working together across the entire city and shit is STILL fucked shows just how awful the city is.
isn't Alfred very wealthy? He's the butler to the Wayne family out of loyalty not necessity
What's particularly insane is the idea Alfred would want to live further in the city where his employers were helplessly mugged and murdered instead of the safety of Wayne Manor, which has only become safer since Bruce built whatever paranoid panic rooms and security systems to monitor and defend it.
If some rich nutter offered any sane person that level of stability in the most crime ridden shithole in any country in exchange for barely Butlering a few rooms while they owner broods in a cave anyway you'd hear nothing but glowing praise from them. Alfred's only complaint has always just been seeing the son of his close friends self-destruct, not the zeroes on his fucking paycheck.
It feels disingenuous not to disclose that this is the end of a parable. I took the talents to be graces and the lesson being that God gave us graces to spread His glory and hiding His grace away to give back to him intact isn't why He graced us at all. He actually would've preferred if the talent was spent instead of buried away because as God is the God of the living, we are to live and not die. Dying is gay.
But you saw it differently than me but still came to the same conclusion. That's the beauty of Scripture to me.
Give everyone in Gotham $1,500
All the poor people blow it on shoes and jewelry
No longer have enough money to fund crime fighting
Crime skyrockets and the city gets destroyed by super villains a few months later.
That's the least of the panels issue.
Alfred is straight up Bruce's surrogate father and has devoted his life in helping Bruce anyway he can despite not even really liking the whole Batman schtick.
A one time payment of $1,500 to every citizen will, at best, pay one month of rent. And without his assets, Bruce can't generate more wealth. Is this a troll comic?
Yes and that very isolated miniseries spits in the face of the idea of batman doing nothing. its explicitly stated that scarecrow was trying to get at his greatest fear and make him stop being batman for personal gain and that just because bruce fears that he's Sisyphus doesn't make it true
I remember when Sinfest was a Libertarian comic.
Because the vast majority of criminals don't "resort to crime" due to poverty. There isn't anybody out there that needs to break into Old Man Greg's house, cave his old man head in, and take his old man television or else Little Timmy can't afford is heart transplant operation.
But they'll sure as shit rob Old Greg for a new $500 pair of shoes.
Matt Reeves The Batman actually does a solid job answering this question.
He does, you fuckin retard. He uses his money to improve the life of poor people in Gotham all the fucking time.
Fuck billionaires
Batman would ultimately make Gotham safer by just killing literally every criminal he comes across than if he donated all his wealth
Europe had some of the lowest criminality in the world at the turn of the 20th century and it was because in the several preceding centuries they executed about the bottom ~5% most violent people of every generation which had a compounding effect on the genetics and behavior of every successive generation. Killing a violent criminal doesn't just remove a criminal, it stops their (probably predisposed to violence) genetics from propagating and ultimately decreases future criminality.
It had the side-effect of turning Europeans into huge fucking pussies, though.
That's probably more due to the two giant world wars in the 20th century which were disproportionately destructive to those with lots of bravery, duty and valor
This movie is so fucking shit good lord