I've been reading 2000s cape comics lately and it's been going kinda rough, but sadly, these are overall still significantly better than the cape comics we have coming out today.
Plenty of cynicism was being injected into these stories, as well as a movement to make them more appetizing for Hollywood to option, but there was still a decent helping of interesting ideas and passion. Yes, they dressed these comics up as movies, and they didn't have much meat on them per issue, but they had a momentum that just isn't there anymore.
The worst general aspect is the art, however. The conversion to digital was a huge mistake.
Let's go over the stuff from this period. Loves, hates, all of that.
2000s Superhero Comics
uh okay
I kind of see it; you can compare Bendis' 00s work with his 10s work and see that it felt more like he tried to build up to something, even though I feel like a lot of Bendis' 00s work doesn't hold up that well.
I'll always love the fighting game/anime inspired cartoony artwork people hated back then that was popular in late 90's and early 00's , I have since I was a kid.
In retrospect I think comics should've gone more in that direction instead of the photorealism
I hate 2000's comics.
Everybody became an asshole.
I mainly agree.
It's a weird era, They all stopped being heroes and became celebrities with powers.
It's a more natural evolution to the already very stylized 90's stuff.
I read All-Star Superman for the first time in a long time and enjoyed it. Mostly for the art. I know bitches complain about muh mershed perderders, but there was so much life and detail to the art, it made the whole thing a great experience. Probably my favorite use of the widescreen format.
As for the writing, quite good overall, but it definitely felt like a balancing act with several wobbly parts. Lois Lane was too cunty for my tastes. I did like hip Jimmy Olsen and petty Luthor somewhat.
Very solid 8/10 comic.
Not a big fan of that, but I prefer it over the multitude of tracers and realistic artists like Hitch, Maleev, Rags Morales, etc..
Better than anything we've had since then.
This is a perfect description and I hate how true it is.
We got some top prime slop "artists" in the early 00's.
There is plenty of stuff worth reading from the 2000s, but there's also far too much unforgivably forgettable mediocrity for the decade to appear to have aged well overall.
One thing I will say though: It was the last time that reading comics was still fun.
2000's are only good if they're your first exposure to the medium.
Is that even the 2000s?
Kyle Baker's Plastic Man was really disappointing. I love Kyle Baker's art and I love Jack Cole's run, and this mostly felt like a waste of time.
The quality of his art fluctuated a lot. I think the best drawn issue was #20, the last one, but he had a lot of stinkers, most notably #11. I really don't like that he went digital. Some good gags here and there, but he started showing his disinterest eventually. It became as cynical as the shit he was making fun of.
Baker's a solid cartoonist, but, I don't know, he fucked up here.
4/10 overall.
2004.
I wish we still where headed for that high art Earth X stories, But instead we got this Jerry Springer cursed timeline Quesada put us on.
It wasn't THAT bad, dude.
The Ultimates (1 & 2)
Ellis's The Authority
Johns's JSA
Johns's Hawkman
Johns's Flash
Johns's Green Lantern
Johns's Action Comics
Loeb's Superman/Batman
Loeb's Superman
Kelly's Action Comics
Casey's Adventures of Superman
Schultz's Man of Steel
Waid's Fantastic Four
Waid's JLA
Kelly's JLA
Nextwave
Vaughn's The Runaways
Morrison's Batman
Morrison's New X-Men
Whedon's Astonishing X-Men
Bendis's Daredevil
Brubaker's Daredevil
Gotham Central
Powers (for the first 30 issues at least)
Threeboot Legion of Super-Heroes
Ennis's Punisher
Astro City
Tom Strong
Terra Obscura
Tomorrow Stories
Greyshirt miniseries
Top 10
Promethea
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Rising Stars
Busiek's Avengers
Brubaker's Captain America
WildC.A.T.s 3.0
Loeb/Sale's "color minis"
I'm sure I'm forgetting a few (and I'm limiting it to superheroes, because that's what OP is talking about), and few of those are admittedly questionable in quality, but every one of those is still generally well regarded (even if I think a few are crap).
I didn't like Silver Surfer: Requiem that much either. It was pretty boring and maudlin. I would have preferred more three-dimensional contemplation or something more substantial.
I like that Ribic utilized the Moebius approach to the Surfer.
5/10.
Add Peter David's Captain Marvel. One of the best series of the era.
Ennis's Punisher
The only GOOD one.
I still laugh at the period joke.
Add: and All Star Superman.
90's Comics: Big guns, shoulder pads & pouches.
00's Comics: Sexual Assault in every other issue.
You could also add: even though that poster didn't like it. I think the general consensus on it is positive.
Good thing you didn't put John's Avengers.
That was a pile of hot garbage and ruined a bunch of characters.
Yeah, that's fair. I didn't enjoy them, but I understand I'm in the minority.
As soon as the clock struck 2000 we've been shitting on 90's comics but God-forbid we say anything bad about 00's comics 25 years later.
Planetary
Jack Staff
The Winter Men
Seven Soldiers
Marvel Boy
I think there's been more shitting on 00s comics outside of here now, which I didn't expect.
The 2000s are pretty reviled around here. I'm just taken aback at how much worse things are now.
The 90s was the most hit-or-miss decade for comics. Most of them are either great or the worst comics of the 20th Century and there's not a lot in between.
2000s comics are often decent to good, and just as often mediocre to crap.
The 90s isn't as great as Anon Babble says it is and the 2000s isn't as bad as Anon Babble says it is.
Planetary is the fence in terms of genre definition.
Seven Soldiers I guess works.
The others are questionable.
I honestly find the 2000's more fascinating as this decade of forgotten comics trying to thrive in a post-crash world.
Marvel and DC are well documented but everything else is so niche and forgotten that you end up stumbling onto some hidden gems if you bother looking
That's nonsense. All Anon Babble does is go on and on endlessly about how the 2000s was the worst decade in the history of comics. You absolute morons hate the 2000s more than you do the 2010s or 2020s.
Planetary is the fence
ON the fence
The 2000's where degenerate full stop.
It was like your meathead older brother got the keys to the kingdom and drove it into the ground.
This is actually an interesting perspective and the most productive and observant post in the thread.
Not really. It's just another revisionist approach to superheroes and includes the precursors.
complimenting yourself
All the characters got stripped of their charm & Ethos.
See the post 2 above yours.
here's your 2000s Marvel comic bro
Jessica Jones.
She-Hulk becomes a complete slut
Ironman becomes a fascist.
Spider-Man makes a deal with The Devil
Starfox becomes a serial rapist.
Beast becomes a war criminal.
Truly it was the new renaissance for the industry!
Old fogies being mad at anime poaching their audience is one of favorite things.
Yeah and I will admit there were interesting and remembered things past the Marvel and DC stuff from the 2000's
BRPD, The Goon going to Dark Horse, Scott Pilgrim, The Walking Dead, etc but then there's also stuff like the initiatives that tried to make sure comics could still reach to kids, the Image Universe revival which only saw Invincible live on, the genuinely inspiring rise of DreamWave which only catastrophically fell apart due to incompetence, etc
I don't think that panel is them getting mad at anime
It is there another part making fun of characters announcing their attacks.
*could still reach to kids that weren't as successful as Scholastic's
It was the last time that reading comics was still fun.
This is the most important part, but Anon Babble genuinely doesn't want to have fun, so that doesn't mean anything to them.
The 1990s were the last time but co isn't ready to have that conversation yet.
How was the 2000s for Indie nobody ever seems to talk about it? Indie did peak in the 90's but I've always been kind of interested in the weird Indie books from the 2000s or like that period of Image Comics before the TWD but after the crash.
no Ultimate Spider-man
I know it's trendy to hate Bendis now, but there's no denying that first decade of Ultimate Spider-man was gold.
Just read pre-1993 comics and you should be good, OP.