Death Battle

what style will the fight animation be in

The guy who did Ghost Rider VS Spawn is doing it so sprite with some 2D animation thrown in

Who do you think is stronger?
Who will actually win Death Battle?
Dream match up?

Muuuuch better.

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH

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Definitely shitty ass flash animation…

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This thread? Got STOMPED by listroon's thread

OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
3 - 0

Hopefully hand-drawn

Hopefully fully 2d with motion tweens

kaijutard fluffing listtroon's thread

Always knew that faggot leaned trans.

On the bright side, the threads are going so fast one of the two unused ones will probably get the chance to be recycled.

Jack vs Bane would be better.

last night i had a dream and in it somewhere in what i can remember i had the idea of perry the platypus vs yoshi as a death battle fight

hal, I think we finally beat starbreaker

no Clark, that was his robo ant

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That makes no sense!

We need more CapeGOLD vs CapeGOLD fights. Tranime is shit.

If the ending is a hands to hands fight that's hand drawn, I'll be satisfied regardless or reasoning or winner

I wonder do Capefags read any comics outside of Marvel and DC?

Based.

THIS

Why the fuck would I read anything else when I already read GODvel CHADmics.

idk maybe you're a fan of the walking dead

I wish Starbreaker had a good matchup. He's cool.

Dreams rarely do

KirkmanSLOP

yeah i agree, the stuff the makes him fun as a villain

not showing up often

having to power himself up by eating first

makes him bad for finding a good fight

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Simon? Kyle? Two frauds who I neg diff.

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u? obsessed

Swank'd Kyle trained you Kratos, don't talk about him like that

The other thread hasn't reached bump limit yet

Kyle
Kyle
Captain N vs Bob the Guardian (ReBoot)

U? Ass Void victim!!!

Let's be realistic here, how long until we get [WONDER OF U] in a fight?

He's pretty much the new "Ultra ridiculous OP" JoJo ability replacing GER, no?

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Simon
Simon
Lord English VS Syperboy Prime

You wanna keep fighting even tho ive achieved this form?
Heh, you must really think you're...

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BRING ME MASTER CHIEF

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Name one character stronger than Swank'd Kyle.

discuss matchups

Relatively soon, Toru vs SCP 96 is pretty popular

/DBS/ Jiren

Any winners here?

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Swank'd Kyle trained him and Kratos.

Swank'd Dio

Reporting in.

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Toru vs SCP 96 is pretty popular

Funny how that's also literally one of the lamest of the possible fights he could have. I can already see it now, "AHHHHHH HE MOVED THE SUN IN THIS ONE STORY, THAT MEANS HE'S GIGAULTRABLUPLADUPLAFUCKLAVERSAL!"

Honestly, I like the "Tooru vs Makima" matchup a lot more. Or I would, if there wasn't a chance Makima got awarded the win solely to make up for her previous defeats.

No wank who wins? Video game Metal Sonic, by the way.

But Wonder of U has duraneg attacks

Here

FUUUUUAAAARRRKKK THEN I CAN'T!!!!

Kill yourself listroon

Metal Sonic has no way to counter transformations. Something Popeye does to things on a whim.

Eh, it's a fun match concept-wise, I like it

Did you just pin two random characters against each other?

Anon, strictly speaking, Wonder of U is literally unable to be harmed by anything that isn't a stand. Even if you killed Tooru, Wonder of U itself would still survive. It is literally impossible to kill it without a stand, and that stand also has to be Go Beyond due to being the only thing capable of destroying the law of calamity.

But obviously, they're not going to do that. T

It's a dumb match because SCP is a fan community where anyone can write it, so you're going to get all sorts of retarded nonsense.

Bring me Raoh so we can have our duel.

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Foolish boy

My fists are the ones that will make you face one thousand deaths!

Has there been a story where SCP 96 has died? It's hard to powerscale them when they're always just put in a normal world. It sounds like it's a potential never ending battle unless WOU can just erase people from history.
There's seriously no 'canon'?

96 seems to be more grounded than most though, with the exception of that one sun outlier it is mostly street tier

What kinda hivemind or evil cosmic overlord character would in character end up turning their foe into its servant or drone slave instead of killing them in a Death Battle episode?

Has there been a story where SCP 96 has died?

Several. Its regen is dependant on its bone marrow if I recall correctly. He'll die if that's broken

There's seriously no 'canon'?

The universe got its start as a bunch of Anon Babble shitposts, there's never been any "standard" for a universe here.

faceless fat bastard with hypnosis from a million hentai doujins for one

Stop exposing us to your gross fetish listroon

There's seriously no 'canon'?

SCP author here, and yesn't. There's no central canon or "main storyline" per se, but there's a bunch of smaller and separate canons composed of different articles

Yeah, it just popped into my head. I’d heard how strong Metal Sonic is, so I thought, hey, why not?

Is it really that much of a stomp?

Hey so I'm not a fucking physicist or anything but if we are taking the "DC Universe is actually expanding at 60 trillion light years per half-second" thing seriously, how would the Infinity Big Bang Storm compare if we actually calculate it? Considering its expansion rate as we see dozens of galaxies forming (which in our universe would take BILLIONS of years just for ONE to be formed) and moving at MFTL+ speeds the instant the attack is used, the IBBS might actually dwarf the 60 trillion expansion rate easily. Without even considering the broader TTGL Universe is infinite in size, of course.

not listtroon but wtf corruption / mind control is based

I'll think by DB standards

A DC big bang is 60 trillion times the size of a normal one!

It also made more galaxies than the anti spirals attack, we wouldn't even be able to see how fast it went compared to this where you could slow it down and count the number of galaxies

The infinity big bang wasn't infinite so this doesnt matter

Kyle held back a big bang all by himself!

>Kyle held back a big bang all by himself!

That's what matters. It's more than enough to outscale it in death battle terms.

Don't try to argue the feat with me, I'm just saying what DB will do.

Favorite Character?

Swan will just say that Infinity Big Bang Storm is not meant to be taken literally because muh flashy Anime attack names.

Yeah, and that Kyle without the white lantern! He's a gazillion times stronger than that too!

It would be VERY disappointing if they took that approach. I would love to see the absurd number they can pull from the IBBS

They might pull out some numbers, but they'll just say the big bang Kyle held was 'like, infinity times bigger'

That'd be lame. I want to see autistic calcs for that thing and then having to scale up from that with the exponentially more powerful form that followed

Simon

Come on anon, at least try and hide what you're doing. It's blatant. Or be honest, you don't have to hide it.

Kill yourself listtroon.

no which is why the guy who debated for 096 said if it was made into an actual episode they'd need to find a way to use 096 without just fully compositing it

What's the fucking point in bondage or rape if they're mind controlled?

Tiny shitter beam that was maybe a sliver of one is better than the totality of one of an actual cosmic scale

I can never take DCfags seriously. They can't even handle solar system tier shit

See you space cowboy

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no

...yes there has. He died in Daybreak and in SCP-6170, among other tales

Rape? It wouldnt really be rape anymore.
Bondage? I dont see why thatd change at all, she would just be into it now.

So he needs to be completely destroyed? Not sure if WOU can do that or if we'd rely on 96 falling in a volcano
If there's not really a solid canon I don't know if it would be worth the research. I know SCP is crazy popular with Gen Z though so they could just say fuck it and do it for the all mighty view count.

I said no to the second question not the first

Yes but given the nature of SCP it would probably be a "weaker" iteration where it happened. Like you can have him job to relatively lesser stuff in some tests/stories and then have him do dumb shit like inexplicably shatter through universal boundaries to get at a guy.

Why are you people incapable of talking about powerscaling in a powerscaling thread and instead force in your fetishes where they don’t belong?

Not a matter of incapable. More of a matter of "who cares"? These threads are trash anyway and people just spam or post whatever shit they want

It's one guy

Fuck all of these gay-ass matchups, when do get a proper mecha vs. mecha fight again?

What catch phrase or motto would your HERO yell after he's been cucked and realized he's into it?

I'll start

BY THE GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!

Why would Simon yell that?

Literally the reason why Witch lost was cause she was a crazy BPD schizoid who can’t control herself.

Mecha outside of Power Rangers and Gundam doesn't seem to be in their wheelhouse

They could do Code Gayass.

Does Batman have a mech? Have him fight BIG O

Yeah but she's Marvel

wins you're fight

Batman have a few, but always get thrash

In brightest day, in Blacked night, no bull cock shall escape my wife.

Is that even a thing anymore?

Just have some grand Gundam Death match to settle who is the top Newtype or something, there's plenty of options. You could have Amuro vs. Kamille vs. Judau vs. Banagher vs. Kou vs. Machu in UC alone. Or have grand melee between Char and his clones. Gundam alone has tons of interesting mecha fight options

Are you talking about:
Myntanon who scales Paraphore a porn game with player accessible pedo shit?
Raj/Cuckanon/"yogirigayhere" who obsesses and cuckposts about Simon in relation to Kamina?
Droneanon who is mostly harmless and just wants a Death Battle to end in drone/mindbreak/corruption.
Or just the random porn posters?

“Wowwee Zowwee! FIVE BIG BROS!!!”

Why did they make NTR Yellow just Sanji kek

he would call them this

Since Kyle won and it wasn't even close what are your hopes for a MU that is actually a close call?

Not unless Lelouch managed to Geass them before the fight. And if its mech vs mech, Lelouch is mediocre pilot who needed Suzaku or Kallen to carry him

Mr Magoo vs Mr Bean

was kyle holding back a big bang or was he struggling for like 5 seconds

Uhhhh I didn't read it. But he probably held it back with his bare hands. I know superman was there, I imagine he said even HE can't do that.

Doesn't really matter since the Infinity Big Bang Storm would vaporize him

Dc big bang is way bigger than simon’s tiny big bang

It isn't 120 trillion light years per second, it is "just" the Post-Crisis big bang expanding 60 trillion light years in a half second. Our own universe had a rate of expansion far greater than the speed of light in the moments that defined moments after the big bang.
We really don't have anything to suggest that it continued to expand at this rate or not.
In addition to this, I don't think we are able to make any consistent rulings upon the DC setting, so doing this for the DC universes doesn't exactly seem feasible when they are most subject to change.
It is even worse now with DC's All-In initiative making everything (supposedly everything at least, I have to imagine that they have no intention of rendering some character relationships as simultaneously canon) in terms of offical DC content soft canon.

you mean the anti-spiral

We really don't have anything to suggest that it continued to expand at this rate or not.

Death Battle believes so

Post the DC Big Bang creating and expanding dozens of galaxies moving at MFTL+ instantaneously

doesn't matter how big something is, if it can be converted into spiral power, simon's taking it

Dont know why people jerk that moment off since it was basically just a trickle of it in context. It was just a crack in the armor

post it

Bejita and Broly are the actual saiyan winners. (Hulk and Shadow).

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thinking db researches actually read comics

They rely on out of context panels. If a character lied about saying how he killed God, they would take that panel out of context and use it as a feat. Even if in the next page the character admitted to lying.

Silver Surfer one-shots the dc multiverse btw.

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Kylebros I'm not reading this. Is this good or bad for us

SO I CAN DIE

Thor solos.

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Thor has a cool and JACKED 3D model from rivals

no Thor fight

Shame.....

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if kyle vs simon flops they'll never do another Anon Babble fight instead of learning not to book D-listers from capeshit
if kyle vs simon is a success instead of doing more mech fights they'll do more D-list capeshit fights

tranime can do no wrong

Retard.

Didn't Spawn win even with the retarded cosmology argument

Kyle has both the COSMOLOGY AND THE HAX!

I really want to know if there's anything that explicitly says or shows how much stronger the White Lantern is than the Green Lantern.
Yes. He won because of better hax and resistances.

so by that logic Simon wins

normalfags do not actually care about kyle, they barely even know he exists
HXH is fairly popular, arguably moreso than TTGL, and even that couldn't save it when booked against some shit nobody's heard of

I really want to know if there's anything that explicitly says or shows how much stronger the White Lantern is than the Green Lantern.

Uhhh, he has all the powers of the rings so he is as strong as every lantern user combined!

hax

Post Kyle hacking a computer.

Post Kyle maintaining a construct near Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann's size, let alone Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann's.

Post Simon having a career.

Simon and Kyle are so weak they could not hurt a fly.
Show me either of them hurting a fly.

I know you're shitposting but realistically no. he has all the POWERS of the lanterns. It's not like super saiyan where his physical stats are boosted. It's like giving 50 guns to a man with 10 guns to destroy megatron

Kyle will win. I still don't know why Simonfags think that they have a chance.

He was a defenceforce lead/figure head president for a bit.

sub-jesse level

FUARK

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dude has PREY eyes

Wonder Woman victim should remain silent

Post characters women literally salivate over

Wonder Woman doesnt matter to even DC themselves and all of her episodes are either unmemorable and or cheap

he SOLOS my favorite verse AND my WIFE

I haven't played the post wii games, but don't they get some crazy buffs in TSA and 3?

Average Dr Who cuck…

Vergil vs Sephi 2 would be cool

/db/......

Would be but it's still a stomp

I don't think anyone here has spent more than 5 minutes on tumblr

Even with the "he has all the powers of all of le lanterns" what does that even mean? It's not like the Pink or Yellow Lanterns have some inherent ability unique to them that aren't just differently colored Green constructs. The closest I think you get are the Red's blood vomit but he never uses that.

You do have the emotional manipulation I guess but he uses it 3 times ever successfully, twice against normal people and once against space sharks. The one time he used fear against a named character they just casually brushed it off.

I think at one point he used compassion for teleportation, but shouldn't that be something the Greens can already do?

Yeah but they only get to Sun level while Vergil is a universe buster

we're talking about straight women

DONE!

Blackbros....

I want to see Thor NUDE!

Please draw him much more handsome and NUDE

I got to respect how unapologeticly horny she is with it. I hope she was happy a few years later on the internet

It is from the issue in the Our Worlds at War event that has Kyle hold back the exploding dude. It saying that if they broke open the bad guy then the explosion would multiple galaxies worth of energy.

Bros...

Now what is more strange is that the climactic issues have this energy upgraded to big bang tier. This might have been because it was absorbed by Brainiac 13's Warworld and this caused the energy to be increased or otherwise enhanced, but we get zero indication.

Yes, but honestly I don't think Henry should reliably scale to Travis' craziest feats.
Where is Sun-level No More Heroes coming from?

Is shapeshifting really that bad or useless when it comes to power scaling? It hardly ever gets mentioned, and if a character can use it, it never gets mentioned in the discussion.

Depends on if shifting shape shifts stats.

5. Takasugi, Gintama (40 votes)

4. Raoh, Fist of the North Star (46 votes)

3. LIGHT, Death Note (57 votes)

1. HISOKA, Hunter × Hunter (71 votes)

1. DIO BRANDO, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (71 votes)

capeshit and shounencucks are completely incapable of understanding what women like

women think gay pedos are the sexiest things ever by a considerable margin over a whiny high school student

Grim

OUR HEROES...

MEOWTH DAT'S RITE

The fanbase was evenly split by gender

not a single woman on the list

Are all male shonen readers gay?

gay pedo gets as many votes as the charismatic vampire

Something's wrong with the Japanese.

What's his MU?

Well it is Shonen Jump villains, so I don't know how mamy options they had.

You do know Pucci was 18 here, right?
Likely younger actually

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He was less than 17 considering DIO died in '89

yeah u mad lol

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1. STRAWBERRY 100%, Mizuki Kawashita (2002-5; 47 votes)

2. VIDEO GIRL AI, Masakazu Katsura (1989-91; 44 votes)

3. I"S, Masakazu Katsura (1997-2000; 40 votes)

4. Jigoku Sensei Nube, Shō Makura & Takeshi Okano (1993-9; 35 votes)

5. Magical Taruruuto-kun, Tatsuya Egawa (1988-92; 29 votes)

6. To Love-Ru -Trouble-, Saki Hasemi & Kentarō Yabuki (2006-9; 26 votes)

6. DNA2, Masakazu Katsura (1993-4; 26 votes)

8. City Hunter, Tsukasa Hōjō (1985-91; 25 votes)

9. Dragon Ball, Akira Toriyama (1984-95; 23 votes)

10. Bastard!!, Kazushi Hagiwara (1988-9; 22 votes)

erotic

Code for NTR

Who is the strongest tumblr sexyman?
Did anyone else know that there was another TSM contest just a month ago?

Where is Sun-level No More Heroes coming from?

Well, maybe not SUN level, more like small star because Travis defeated the Space Peacock whose wing alone was bigger than Earth.

i am the fucking KIIIIIIIING!

Yeah, Sofa King Weet Arded

i am fucking the KIIIIIIIING!

Honestly, there is no character more downplayed than CHADtor. Even his creators are doing their best to bury him, yet he refuses to die.

Tanks beign canceled

Tanks being mutilated to fit ameriLARD tastes, including a whole movie

Tanks Steven Moffat going insane

Tanks being rule63'd

Tanks being written by soap opera hacks

Tanks David Tennant going insane tranny chaser

Tanks being turned into a nog

British Broadcast Corporation was losing so badly at besmirching HIM that they needed to run devil mouse for help

They are literally retreading old, OPUS episodes in a vain hope of making them retarted and gay, but it's not working.

Name one character that survives more hate from his creator than CHADtor

How come no one else has a harem in death battle?

typing the full name instead of using the one everyone knows

you're smart anon, this place is too childish

do you think the tail would help or get in the way during copulation?

Timeline>Universe

From the Final Drill databook:

[Quantum cosmology] [Other] A theory of the universe explained by quantum mechanics. It analyzes the probabilistic interpretation of the universe from nothingness to entire Universe by dealing with the microcosm immediately after the birth of the universe."

Since Simon won and it wasn’t even close what are your hopes for a MU that is actually a close call?

I came from the future.
Kyle won

Char vs Lelouch

I came from the future.
Simon won

We knew

We knew

If you still think this would be a bad episode, then you lack creativity

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Adachi stomps

…on a civilian with Bite the Dust, killing himself instantly

… in Kira’s dying dreams.

Char vs Lelouch

What do they have access to?

Mech vs. mech

Char is the better pilot by far, has the Newtype senses to further boost him and has access to superior robots. While either Gawain or Shinkiro probably could wreck any of the Mobile suits or Armor Char has used, I don't see Lelouch being able to hit him with that. Damocles and FLEIA have the same issue: could vaporize Char if hit, but Char is too fast to be hit and has Newtype precog on top of it. Outside of their robots Char is physically superior and would beat Lelouch in fair fight, Lelouch's wincon would be to Geass him which would work only if Char didn't wear his iconic mask or sunglasses. On the other hand, if you include Resurrection, Char has nothing that can prevent Lelouch from (eventually) resurrecting and if you scale him to C.C., Code gives him limited mind rape ability on physical contact and potential immunity to Newtype mindreading. Not really that helpful since Char doesn't usually go for the close combat in person unless you want to argue that Newtype peek inside his mind would allow Lelouch to mindrape or Geass Char which is a stretch.

army vs. army

This is more interesting since while Char has superior quality forces, Lelouch drowns him in quantity. Char at his best had access to Zeon Remnants and Spacenoid volunteers. Lelouch at his best had uncontested control of the Earth. Lelouch is certainly the better commander, but Char's forces would have the technological edge.

tl;dr: 1v1 Char would wreck Lelouch even if the latter would resurrect later and all of Lulu's wincons are situational longshots. Army vs army would be fun to see though Gundam tech would probably give Char the edge

Kira falls into a TV after blowing up a woman, her hand still in his hand

Adachi is also in the TV world sees Kira

Blasts him with Ziodyne instantly

...which only exist in VIRGINdachi's head.

Bite the Dust is absolutely worthless

Who should Kirei Kotomine fight?

Enrico Pucci

It's too situational. If the scenario of them fighting is Adachi being in Morioh to investigate against women disappearing it could get him if he got deep into it. But I don't think he'd even give enough of a shit to try to investigate against Kira, he'd run into him by pure coincidence. Killer Queen has a really close range and a good speed but Adachi has a fucking gun. KQ could use Stray Cat to toss exploding air bubbles and maybe Sheer Heart Attack could help but Adachi can tank big attacks from the Investigation Team.

Can only cobble together your cosmology off the bastardized midwit dalliance of the demented, insane headcanons of mathematical theorists

what even is the point of SHITction?

lol

Baxter bro....Are you retarded? Do you know he also does the same, right?

inb4. Umm? Who is that baxter fellow you are rambling about, my fellow schizo, I am afraid to say that I am not him...Though he seems like a very handsome fo-

I actually laughed until i coughed, lmao

Kyle is most likely stronger

If you mean shitting himself at the prospect of a containing a big bang powered by like 20 galaxies, then yes.

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But the matchup can still come down to hax

STTGL size cope. Kyle is stomping

What do they have access to?

Going by Death Battle rules, I guess Char would have the Sazabi and Lelouch the Mahoroba.
I personally don't care about the matchup that much, but I've seen it around enough to consider it popular. Way better than Eva-01 vs Wing Gundam Zero which borders on spite match.

Reminder that a character could never ever be considered universe level unless they themselves destroyed a universe. Creating a universe doesn't count.

Way better than Eva-01 vs Wing Gundam Zero which borders on spite match.

In who's favor? I don't know either.

Sinestro is a Silver the Hedgehog victim

CAUGHT YA LACKING
ITS ME, TERUMIBRO, AND I'M HERE TO GIVE THIS THREAD A WEDGIE AGAIN!!

Kyle is stronger

city level explosion

Susan would swat Sinestro

asura fags sent mail bombs so the had to tone it back

Fake news, Asura fans don't know how to mail things.

So something just occurred to me about the potential dynamics between Spiral Power and the Life Equation. One of the arguments from Kylefags is that the Life Equation could just reverse Spiral Power, erase it, or alter it in order to render Simon useless.

The problem I'm starting to see is that Spiral Power is tied to the broader infinite universe itself (directly from the show/movies), specifically from spiral galaxies which Spiral lifeforms are in sync with (Work Soul databook). Spiral Power is effectively a law of the Universe, which is why the Anti-Spiral can't just snap his fingers and get rid of it for the entire multiverse, they only surpress Spiral lifeforms to make it impossibly difficult for them to generate Spiral Power. My point is that in altering Spiral Power, you are not just fucking with Simon's power source but also the entire Universe/multiverse/cosmos. Reversing Spiral Power, if we accept that Simon's Spiral Power as infinite, would de-evolve the Universe/multiverse infinitely as well, essentially destroying it and Kyle killing himself in the process. Same as erasing it, Spiral Power is what maintains stability between life and the Universe ("The growth of galaxies is proportional to the growth of life."), getting rid of it theoretically would just cause the Universe/multiverse to collapse.

Ehh I think the "neutral battlefield" negates that kind of thing. Spiral Power is the thing that keeps Simon's verse together, but not Kyle's. Sort of like how Raven can casually just kill the thing that maintains life on a multiversal scale in Marvel and suffer no ill consequences for it.

If Kyle tries to use the LE on Simon he might just bring down the wrath of god himself by accident

I really hate the Anti-Spiral Vs Anti-Monitor matchup, it's just really hard to find someone for the AS where they don't stomp and have decent connections with

Wouldn't the LE be interfered by a neutral battlefield? If Kyle can supposedly do whatever he wants, couldn't Simon arguably do whatever he wants too since he's in full control of Spiral Power?

TAKE IT SIMON, USE MY POWER TO DEFEAT THE JANETTY LANTERN

Could LE rewrite the speedforce? As in, can it even erase important conceptual laws from its own universe?

Makes me wonder where the Obitobro is.

you all hyped for the new digimon series coming soon and the movie?

Fair, though I do think just making Spiral Power about willpower is kind of bastardizing it and cosmology

It should be pretty irrelevant anyway since Kyle can't use the fucking thing and there's precedence that Simon could just no sell even a full power version with how we are told it works.

anyway since Kyle can't use the fucking thing

Let's be realistic. Death Battle is giving him full control of it.

The neutral battlefield mostly just means that each character can use their full powerset without some weird condition that needs to be set in their verse, i.e. Flash can't use the speed force unless it's specifically in DC.
I don't think it should mean that if the loser is some cosmic keystone for power in their verse that the winner should just automatically die though, as in the above Phoenix vs Raven example. Imagine if that's how GvS ended.
Logically it should be able to as it's just the source code of all reality. Kyle never uses it that way though, nor does he show any of the precision and control that imply he could use it that way if he wanted to

The Evangelion’s. It towers over the Gundam (being like 80 meters tall), can go berserk, regenerate and generate a bullshit strong barrier called an AT Field only countered by other AT Fields or bombs as strong as nukes.

Speedforce is an aspect of the Life Equation seemingly, so hypothetically if one could edit the Life Equation freely, then yes.

I'm shitposting

I doubt it since even on the dbcast they thought him having it was extremely iffy (and even then they gave it to Simon despite him having it). I think they'll give it to him as an arsenal note but then handwave it in the end going "but what about the life equation!? That thing can affect the whole DC cosmology supposedly! The issue is that Kyle never really learned how to control it at all. Even in the most generous terms we see here that if one embodies enough emotions or willpower they can resist if not outright ignore the power of the life equation!"

It feels like the most Death Battle thing they would do.

Blazblue GAWDS, have actual feats for their god tiers. Unlike Fraud Comics.

Reminder when people laugh about the 'city level' explosion that knocked out Kyle. THIS is what you're laughing at...

Even in the most generous terms we see here that if one embodies enough emotions or willpower they can resist if not outright ignore the power of the life equation!"

is that true?

Kyle verse specific hax is okay

But Simon verse specific hax isn't

Biased fuck.

tranime

vidya

I am getting my hammer.

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That's Death Battle.

Also something something, Simon managed to unleash his SP even in a universe without.

Don't make me get my rock

Doesn't that mean that the DC omniverse is only like 20 times bigger than ours? If we are ignoring the several times DC has said that the universe is smaller

Realistically being able to do the latter would mean you would be capable of the former in any setting that actually consistently applies """science""" in a cohesive manner.

But for example in TTGL a rat can vaguely in it's primitive mind think of the possibility of cheese being or not being around the corner and then he made a universe.

I feel like (if Simon wins) it's going to be the opposite of Ben vs Hal

Simon could use missiles/energy drain/probability manipulation to win...

but there was ONE weapon in Kyle's arsenal that Simon could not overcome with raw power

yeah, Simon didn't really have an answer to something that can overwrite something as vast as the DC omniverse

but that didn't mean the Life Equation had its weaknesses. For one, Kyle couldn't control it very well and failed to erase other people with it

also, we've seen the Life Equation being resisted by characters waaay inferior to Simon

Etc etc. Or with Zarathos in GR vs Spawn where they bring up Zarathos's weaknesses like Johnny holding him back

It's related to the non canon future Kyle who went mad with the life equation. Some literal who chick who would go on to become one of the chosen white lanterns in canon no sold the life equation. Now Kyle was hoping for such an outcome, but I don't see why he would be lying about the mechanics regarding the life equation and being able to no sell it. It's the best we have to go off of and again canon Kyle can't use it

now wait...

cont) in TTGL it's kind of the universes internal structure itself that is 2A rather than the characters themselves.

Like in pop fantasy/sci, I could create universes where I decide to push out a shit that afternoon because alternate universes were made incremently ever nano-second I decided to wait to take a shit, but that would be the universe's "engine" doing that rather than me.

The cosmology argument only becomes critical when you have two characters whose feats are "I can blow up the universe" and then you need to try and quantify exactly what a universe is in that setting.

I don't think it should mean that if the loser is some cosmic keystone for power in their verse

But that's not what I'm saying Simon is though, that's how Spiral Power functions for Gurren Lagann and manipulating it would cause havoc. I don't think it's actually that similar to Pheonix Vs Raven now that I think about it because Simon is able to be killed without it affecting the Universe, but it would just make "just get rid of the concept of Spiral Power" as stupid as "well Goku can just destroy the universe and win".

This is canon, actually. It didn't actually come to happen, but Kyle in the fight against his evil twin in the present is aware of this future, and they keep showing flash forwards to it in the fight itself. It's also the reason why he gives up the Life Equation in the first place

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Here's the image for it.
3x2(9yz)4a is the Speed Equation in DC.

Let's see how Kyle does when Simon unleashes the power of the quadratic formula.

Mean more that the other Kyle effectively doesn't exist.

so this means it's still canon that the LE can be resisted via willpower

Sees that Future

Alters it

For Sephi
Dissidia is canon

a rat can vaguely in it's primitive mind

Well, not really. in TTGL it's pretty limited to those who have intelligence, which is why Boota didn't get put in a Labyrinth until he evolved and was able to perceive other possibilities.

Capeshit

I am getting my squids.

Kyle bros, We immune to laberynth (:

Technically which lies the chink in the life equation if they actually gave it to Kyle. Actual Kyle can't use it for shit so even if he did send out spazz bursts, Simon should be able to just ignore it due to his absurd spiral power which essentially compasses what you need to go "no" to the life equation's manipulation

Yeah. I think the remakes give him enough buffs. Hell, you could argue OG Sepiroth could still stomp Vergil now

define "intelligence"

just joking, okay so replace the rat with a drug addict, and the cheese with meth.

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capeSOVL

well... unless you consider smt canon for vergil

tho death battle retardly made smt scaled joker just universal

which means in a theoretical Life Equation Vs Giga Drill Break situation, Simon would likely overcome it through superior willpower

meow

So serious question, how is a TTGL universe infinite if it's cosmology requires people to conceive of probabilities, but the amount of people in it not infinite?

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With Dante in Nocturne? Depends because another version has Raidou and the current release has Dante as DLC instead

I wasn't ready to read this.

Because Simon made the all real, and absorbed it? If he is able to percieve himself at his fullest then that means the laberynth has become trully real. This is backed up with him saying that he is truly acasual, and beyond casuality and effect.
Nia entered the cockpit of the Lagann, along with Simon. Each Lagann merged into Gurren Lagann. It was anger. It was sadness. It was compassion. It was every emotion one could think of. The feelings that each of us had in our respective universes appeared in the form of a drill, breaking through the wall. It was appearing in the form of two shapes and sizes, and they became one. If you have no choice but to fight, do not hesitate. We are not afraid to ask for power. If there's a wall, we'll hit and break it, if there's no way, we'll make it with our own hands! No, more. Breaks through cause, effect and fate, the cry of life resounds in the galaxy yet, more. Engrave the feelings of a friend in this body, and turn infinite darkness into light! -That's it. A power greater than the stars, greater than the galaxies. A power greater than dimension and time.
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how is a TTGL universe infinite

I mean

someone perceives something and creates a universe

the people in that universe perceive something and create another universe

So on and so forth, infinitely

Because each person conceiving possibilities (even impossible ones like Kamina being a weasely loser) contains people that conceive their own possibilities. So one person imagining a possibility causes a universe to exist filled with a universe of people that they themselves can do the same.

Infinity isnt infinite enough!

Being able to do whatever the fuck you want isnt hax enough!

Is this really what vs debates have turned into?

Theoretically yes unless they make some bs claim like "oh the embodiment of will in the DC universe praised Kyle so he must have more willpower than Simon!" even though we demonstratively see he doesn't.

Plus if they want they can add existential erasure to spiral power's repertoire through Nia maintaining her own existence for days till the wedding when she should have ceased to exist the moment Anti Spiral died.

simon momentarily became omniscient or w/e

Magic, got it.

acasual

which one

existential erasure resistance* and the implication Simon could have just willed her back into existence if he wanted to

Massively exponential functions do not reach infinity CHUDbeit
see above

I'm in the Simon gapes DC camp brothers, just curious.

kyles infinity is bigger than cucky simons infinity

FUARKKKKK!!

Kyle's infinity

lol

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>simon momentarily became omniscient or w/e

momentarily

At no moment he lost the laberynth, wut are you talking about?

Acasuality

Beyond casuality and effect, having no version of himself in future, present, past, infinite possibilities based on quantum, and the multiverse. Probably more.

wait tomorrow, you'll see why Kyle wins.

having no version of himself in future, present, past

wouldn't that downscale the cosmology though lmao.

infinite possibilities based on quantum

TTGL cosmology is based on theoretical conception, not quantum mumbo jumbo.

mfw it just talks about Hal and other lanterns

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Ok, what what can KYLE do?

Who?

wouldn't that downscale the cosmology though lmao.

No? He has no future, past and present versions, because he absorbed them. How the fuck would that downgrade the cosmology. He became the cosmology (par AS domain, I guess)

SPIRAL POWER IS FUCKIING BULLSHIT

FUUUUUCK NIGGERMAN REASON WITH HER

Basically going to be this plus the big bang "feat"

See this is where we get to the more theoretical parts of TTGL, branes cosmology, the idea that the Universe is made up of many higher dimensional layers, often compared to sheets of paper in simpler terms. I'm not that well-versed in it but this is definitely going to be discussed in the Death Battle.
societyofmodernastronomy.wordpress.com/2014/11/06/the-brane-multiverse/

LordGenome: How could we have been so blind? They eluded our super-Spiral scan sweeps by creating an imaginary oscillating time-space located between the MEMBRANES of the dimensional universes we call the 10th and 11th dimensions.

Picrel is from the manga and is a good representation of the branes

Because there are less people thinking of shit cause he merged.

I guess I would have to actually watch TTGL to get the gist of it, thanks.

my brain hurts

No? He absorbed all the possible futures into himself?

kyle...

30 years and not having blown up a galaxy once is pretty bad

So this fight is gonna be one literally who fighting another literally who?

I swear, we are THIS close to getting shit like a Touhou vs Umineko matchup.

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But he was in the same room with other people who did! So that means KYLE CAN!

wouldn't that downscale the cosmology though lmao.

No because Simon is the one who integrates with his multiverse. Every individual has their own infinite multiverse.

TTGL cosmology is based on theoretical conception, not quantum mumbo jumbo.

It actually is based on quantum mumbo jumbo, chud.

30 years and Kyle has never even killed a baby. He's THAT weak. He can't squish an ant, he can't lift a 1lb weight, is there even proof he can take a single step without shitting his pants and dying?

30 years and Kyle has never even killed a baby

Downscales from batman

He can't squish an ant, he can't lift a 1lb weight

Scales to Superman

is there even proof he can take a single step without shitting his pants and dying?

Scales to Flash

I'll give you Batman and Flash. Show me Superman lifting a 1lb weight.

Scales to

But what has KYLE actually done?

He lifted 1LB*4409.25

Can't show him lifting 1lb

So he can't

DC writer here. Kyle has secretly trained every DC character.

If they mention Kyle’s white space/time travel tomorrow it’s over.
First one removes all willpower/lantern power and earthly items, even for Parallax and Oblivion. And then it’s just a skinny asian manlet vs a muscly white irish man who learned kung fu from Batman

Second one’s just time travel.
simon’s only hope of countering time travel is sucking his tranny boyfriend’s penis again for these, and they weren’t even significant enough a weapon to carry over into the later mechas, kek. Still his only shot and unlikely to work

Space removing willpower

Anti Spiral literally tried that. Didn't work.

--By the way, what is your favorite episode in "Gurren Lagann"?

Nakashima: Episode 26 ("Let's go, buddy"), I guess. When I thought of bringing out my big brother (Kamina) there again, I felt like the gears clicked into place. I graduated from Rikkyo University's psychology department, and my mentor became the president of the university just when my son was in his teenage years. I had the opportunity to visit him to say hello when I was thinking about how to deal with my teenage son, and at that time -- this was back then -- I heard that "between male and female students (at university), boys have a harder time (depending on how you look at it)." Girls are told to choose one color from 16 colored pencils. But boys have to choose one color from 256 colored pencils. So, since future possibilities are limited, women don't have to be confused when it comes to making decisions. Of course, there is a problem with the fact that women's career paths are limited, and I'm not saying that it's a good thing. However, that aside, he said it as an example of the difficulty of making a judgment.

--I see.

Nakashima : If you are asked to choose from 256 colors, people are at a loss. When I heard that, I realized that there is something like the "cruelty of possibility." When I first heard that the target audience for "Gurren Lagann" was middle school students, I thought I would do a story like "Hell of Possibilities." That was connected to the multiverse story in episode 26, and the gears meshed nicely. Kamina's "Don't be confused by thoughts like 'what if', 'what if', or 'what if.' The one thing you choose is the truth of your universe." I'm glad I was able to write that line.
febri.jp/febri_talk/nakashima_kazuki_3/

don't we already have proof that Simon has acasuality

The White Space is canonically a cell of Kratos’ white skin

Too bad the Anti-Spiral already tried that.

The worst part about this fight is that it's going to reinforce the view Kyle is the "most creative Lantern" when all his "creativity" amounts to is just making pop culture anime references in his constructs. And that's all Kyle ever does is make constructs.

Hal during his early years as a GL had a thousand times more creativity and weirdness to his powers than just "spam green blocks" that Kyle and the rest of the GLs would fall into

Did work. Labryinth was just a hypnosis and Simon still needed Kamina-sama to save him. in White Space all will energy physically does not exist

Nakashima: Indeed. We are opposed to each other because we are in the same position. Also, I was impressed by a story I heard from my university psychology teacher around that time. He said, "I feel sorry for male students today." He said that if you take out 6 crayons and ask them to choose their favorite color, they can choose, but if you take out 120 colors, they can't choose. In other words, today's boys have so many choices that they can't choose. Girls, on the other hand, unfortunately, still have only about six colors to choose from, so they are able to choose cheerfully. When I heard that, I thought, "That's exactly what I'm talking about!". The reason for the youth's sense of boredom I was feeling fell into my own hands. And then, with a snap, I was blown away by "Gurren".It is. When "presented with infinite possibilities," a person can't do anything but stand still and become stuck. But in the end, the only choice one can make is one's own will. That's what I wanted to convey to the young people, to show them that kind of straightforwardness as entertainment. That's the fourth part of the story.

FUARK. Every single missile is the size of millions of solar system (at minimum)?

Well it wouldn't be an exponential function, it would be a function series summation. Since every entity that contributes would contribute instanteously there is no nonzero time where the summation wouldn't instantly diverge.

No. Simon has blase conjecture from his fanboys because “he absorbed a labryinth so…it SHOULD mean he is!”. But he isn’t.
We do have proof his entire life is a result of time shenanigans altering his past, though.

What the fuck is "White Space"
Did you accidentally huff too much feces from the street again

Ignore Yogirigayhere, or whatever is his name. He will eventually tire himself out.

Read the shit you cry about instead of crying about your indian neighbors, raj

Reminder that Kyle can't even deal with slightly over a thousand

White Space

is this another feat that some other character broke out of

Okay, so infinite consolidated Simon-minds in one guy, thinking of infinite possibilities. How or if it's convincing doesn't matter.

based on quantum mumbo jumbo

From the author: "When I looked up cosmology at that time, I hadn't read it for a while, so I found that it was very advanced. I was given the theory that the universe can be confirmed only if it is observed, and I set up the idea that there is a universe that can be created if we recognize it."

In quantum physics, the "observer" is a term used to describe the entity or process that interacts with a quantum system and makes a measurement, thereby influencing its state. This interaction is known as the "observer effect," where the act of observation alters the system's behavior.

Not accurately, but that doesn't matter. Point is if you go down small enough the fixed state of particle physics doesn't behave as expected and you get "11-dimensional" compactified/folded dimensions. This led people to start ripping off the pop-science alternate branching timeline theories where our entirely deterministic particle physics behaved slightly differently in alternate dimensions.

TTGL replace this with thought-created branching universes rather than the insane mathematical "manifold" verses. He put a lot of weight into the "free will" interpretation of schrodinger's cat.

Kyle’s white space

How does it work exactly? Is it just BFR?

Nope. was only used once (on Neron with Parallax and Oblivion’s powers) and worked 100% of those times

It doesn't exist
I think he's trying to pretend Kyle has his own version of the white hot room

sounds like some chud thing

He didn’t. Labryinth is just giving him a lot of choices. And even that btfo simon.

are you telling the truth or are you lying through your teeth again

..If you ignore how those possibilities literally put his mind into another simon.

You seem extremely incensed for someone i’ve never spoken to before
This fight will not end well for your mental health

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STTGL sized construct

Fist fight, trained by Batman, no pussy shit

Kyle won

Kyle was fighting a guy with both Parallax + Oblivion’s powers (long story)
Could not beat him physically, so he sent them both to a place outside time/space he’d accessed a couple issues prior
There without Lantern energy he just beat him up by hand
Also could time travel from there but opted not to

you stupid asshole that's Ion's power. Kyle canonically said he gave that up

That isn't STTGL sized. Also no ring fisticuffs isn't a good idea. Simon's power is all inherent and he was throwing down with a full powered anti spiral

Read the comics please, this was before he became Ion. And Ion is all Green energy, it’s a personification.

building sized

Willpower is inherent too.
But there there’s no will-based power, just fists. Simon is beaten up bad.

Issue and arc please. I shall be the one who reads.

Yup, Simon got beat up by some no name prison beastmen. Kyle kicks his ass and snaps his neck.

Kyle removes all his power in a pathetic attempt to equalize the field

Simon just regains his spiral power in two plank lenghts, before shanking him, because the AS already did that

Though nullifying yours, and the opponent powers, to make it into a pure 1vs1 MU, without any omniversal conceptual shenanigans is a kino idea.

Yeah that's basically the cosmology in a nutshell. You got it down.

Point is if you go down small enough the fixed state of particle physics doesn't behave as expected and you get "11-dimensional" compactified/folded dimensions.

Yes and that brings us to branes cosmology see

It's not just willpower. Its evolution. Going there wouldn't just turn off his power. Also again Simon can just manifest it anyway even when in a space that bars spiral power as a concept.

This is a lot more than just “here you have a lot of choices so it’s confusing” i’m afraid

Call it whichever name you want. Lantern energy also comes from within, but neither could use it inside.

Tell that to Hal, he’s proven this many times over after this arc

Are you retarded? We have already gone it through several times, Simon got BFR'D into an universe where SP doesn't exist, and he still manifested SP (SP is a fundamenta, metaphysical force, btw). And I doubt the same trick is going to work twice, specially when Simon mind hasn't been wiped (so he just willpowers through it).

Hal's right there supporting it

This is a lot stronger than “here you have a lot of choices” i’m afraid. Simon’s boned. It’s way more than just basic confusion lmao

Does the word “after” confuse you or something

Just ignore the pajeet he's been doing this song and dance for multiple threads.

Kyle LE reality warping being superior to anyone

Post Kyle creating or removing something fundamental voluntarily.

Where’s the source that the Labryinth has no spiral power again?
I watched the anime and it never says this. Just that you have to remember your true self in order to use Spiral Power. Which then happens with Simon once he remembers

why would that place remove spiral energy from simon? it only removes lantern shit, no?

Are you retarded?' Jesus, one of the universes have no Spiral power, not that the entirety of the labyrinth has no spiral power.

DB are probably gonna say they’re similar enough to work the same. Both come from within, both are willpower and some other emotions, both are blabla related to how universe was made.

neither can they use their

SO IT WAS A LIE
Not being able to use it is not having it removed of you

ANTI SPIRAL DID IT
ANTI SPIRAL DID IT
ANTI SPIRAL DID IT

Anti spiral didn’t do it, lol. is weaksauce. Reboot their memories so they can’t try and use it

He goes on to say later how their realm should have barred it and was surprised they manifested it anyway

Okay retardo, they can't use it because they got "transported" into an universe without spiral power, If there wasn't any oxygen in earth, andI didn't have lungs, I wouldn't be able to breath, right?

Because in the labryinth every time you remember, your memory gets rebooted and you’re sent to a new possibility/universe.
That’s a way different thing than getting it removed of you.

Forgetting you have a gun vs your gun taken away and dismantled.

into an universe without spiral power

Never said. And your scan just proved the opposite.

Your grammar and spelling is atrocious by the way. Talk about retardos, lol

Yep. Kyle can just literally take it away and Simon's fucked.
GGEZ. BIGGEST STOMP IN DEATH BATTLE HISTORY

That didn't take place in the labyrinth. It's more just to hammer it you can't seal it or take it away from them no matter what you do. The AS realm was designed to specifically fuck over spiral power users and its use and they just went "nah fuck you fag" and did it anyway.

Y-Your grammar and spelling is atrocious

Damn, so you are saying you are getting beaten by an ESL? SAD. Anyways, the scan never refuted me, infact it is kinda supporting what I am saying.

The labryinth didn’t take it away, just made them forget so they couldn’t try and use it.

It's not basic confusion, the Multiverse Labyrinth had Simon perceive an infinite amount (and growing) of REAL universes and was stuck through being overwhelmed.
Simon already conjured Spiral Power outside space-time because he was momentarily in the AS homeworld and formed TTGL through Super Spiral Power. According to the novelization, the Anti-Spiral's homeworld is located outside the space-time continuum.

"Nia's scream is the only sound that echoed in the empty room. The Anti-spiral's homeworld. The space between the tenth and eleventh dimensions. An empty space-time on this planet, separated from both time and space. Nia, trapped there, is now about to be completely analyzed by the Anti-Spiral's original form. "No matter how much you examine my body, you will never be able to defeat them now. He will come, you can be sure of that." Nia said, desperately trying to regenerate. She brings back memories of the past and spins her body with them. "It's useless, irregular." But the Anti-Spiral instantly read the truth of the information."

So unironically, "the Anti Spiral did that" is still true

Beaten, no, amused very much so.

Your scan said they cannot use their spiral power in there, not that it is taken away or erased.
“Infact” is two words, raj

Kyle fails to stop a bomb that is explicitly described as being 100 megatons of TNT under his own power (also not fast enough to clear a populated area with said bomb)

has to tap into Parallax's power to contain it

this is the way he's able to use muh "White Space"

he gives up the power after this arc and is naturally never seen ever again

Embarrassing

Lanterns like Parallax keep their powers outside space time
White Space removes lantern energy from beings like Parallax
Just being confused by a lotta choices, or being outside of time ain’t enough unfortunately.

Are you retarded? They can't use it because it THERE IS NO SPIRAL POWER, GODDAMIT, THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE EPISODE. Retard. I mean, you can't even comprehend the implications of words.

Simon's biggest feat was just people misinterpreting some lines

Why are we rooting for this guy again?

And yet this is never said, amusing. Nice headcanon though.

I imagine your use of all-caps is meant to represent you crying now? Damn i’m sorry I hurt you anon.

It’s all they have. Their life is over if they get beat up in db

lmao

???? Did you even watch the episode?

N-no no the white space isn't the same as the labyrinth I swear-

lmaoooooo

He didn't and he doesn't read comics either. Just ignore em

?????? yes. ?
??????? no such thing is ever said, and on none of your scans. ?
???????? Lol. ?

memory reboot being compared to actual power removal

It’s stronger. Damn.

Where’s the source that the Labryinth has no spiral power again?

I'll be honest, they are kind of misrepresenting the Labyrinth a bit. The universes themselves don't get rid of Spiral Power innately, what it does is restrict the user from using Spiral Power by being overwhelmed by the infinite real possibilities being played in their head basically. You have to reread Nakashima's intentions when he wrote it to actually grasp it

By DARKEST day, by BLACKEDest night, no BVLL's semen will escape your wife

So from the looks of thread all Kyle's things is basically just "Anti Spiral did it"

You were the one who had to be told the events of the comic by me.
Don’t project your own follies, you should live up to them.

Show me proof of there being absolutely no spiral power in the mind labyrinths.

Yeah that’s what I got. I understood that perfectly. Was a cool analogy actually.
Just a 100% different thing to what simonfags kept crowing about every thread, including this one.

Are my tears and screeching proof?

Maybe.

simon’s gonna get the cuck chair (he wanted a bush)

pretty much only generally less impressive and with limits attached

you guys need to shut up about your fetishes or I'll put you on the chair

White Space removes lantern energy from beings like Parallax

I still don't understand why this would matter to Simon

Just being confused by a lotta choices,

Living through infinite possibilities simultaneously, yes

Look I'm going to say this, Spiral Power is a fundamental law of reality that exists within the multiverse. I'm willing to grant that if the White Space is some Source Wall level shit, then sure Simon's probably fucked. But if it's still within the confines of the multiverse, Simon could easily conjure Spiral energy, his power is fundamentally tied to the Universe and galaxies from other dimensions

Time Travel
White Space
Teleport
Source Wall
Life Equation
Snowflake
Superman
Bush

Spiral Power is a fundamental law of reality that exists within the multiverse

As is emotional/lantern energy, as proven by Geoff run and Volthoom
White Space still just removes it, only thing you got is your bare naked body and some underpants.

Kyle can actually just take away Spiral Power

Can't wait for Simon's shitty mech to just fade away while he chokes out in space.
Pathetic death for a pathetic fraud who's supposedly the strongest.

when that hobo white lantern got batman erased from the entire timeline he was in a white-colored space

ohnonono

"Kyle can use this ability he gave up!"

holy fucking hell

FUARK!

Simonfags keep downplaying Kyle because they're fucking scared.

And Kyle used White Space for time travel too
Just saying it’s 2 for 2 on white lanterns time travelling

This seems like a really bad idea honestly.

Simon can still just manifest it from within since unlike lantern power it doesn't come from somewhere/something else

Simon CQC'd a hivemind composite of an entire hyper advanced race and won

is the white space an ability he can do anytime or is it in only in a specific situation

white space is just being racist

Hm, alright that's fine. I guess the final question would be, how the fuck does Kyle get Simon in the White Space? But ignoring that, Simon's fighting experience is limited but he showcases skill in his prison fight against Viral who is a trained soldier and the Anti-Spiral who were roughly around the same level of power during their fight so Spiral Power wasn't really a factor until the blood drill

Appreciate it.

Well given the only time he ever used it was by being amped with emotional entities he isn't using in this match, you can make a guess

The problem I can defintely see Death Battle taking this approach, it's very fitting for a finale

It would be kind of funny if it was just the anti spiral finale again

White Room

Simon manifests drill anyway so Kyle is defenseless

Kyle ends up drilled

This fight was close

Simon outclasses Kyle in basically everything that matters

Kyle has bad experience with the LE

White Space evens the playing field

Kyle trained with Batman, Simon only really fought Viral and the Anti-Spiral in a fist fight

I can see this happening

so the white space is even less likely because that would rely on a bunch of entities fusing with him. and I don't think Kyle can do that at any given time either. amazing how context changes all these arguments

See The reason Parallax bonds with him in the first place is because he can't stop a 100 megaton bomb kek

Kyle tries to pull the WS shit on Simon and starts wailing on him

Simon catches one of his punches and locks the fuck in

Simon forms a drill and shoves it right through Kyle

would be kino

Kylefags think they have some sort of gotcha

Gets revealed to be a nothingburger in functionality and the guy even being capable of doing it himself in the first place

Every thread.

I didn't know capeSHIT was so weak

Literally every single thread at this point

ummm did you read THIS comic of Kyle's?

read it

not only are there tons of retarded antifeats that would put Kyle below city level

but there's also tons of extenuating context that make it worse or means the feat literally isn't applicable at all

or the argument being given is straight up wrong

or shit is just said without sourcing anything

It's been fun reading all these Kyle comics though. He's a neat character other than the weird Carol relationship in n52. Too bad what DC did to him.

This White Space guy Kyle was fighting is a fucking jobber in CQC though, he barely put up a fight. Simon had to fight the Anti-Spiral when he had his tentacles and shit

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new thread

yes please keep posting comic panels without context kylebros.

We need out of context panels and chain scaling to be atleast solar system level...

B-But anon, don't you know Kyle trained with bartman!!! So that means he is skilled enough to calculate a brazillian ammount of possibility in an atto second.

Nia SEXO

The labyrinth worked until Kamina's spirit gave Simon a pep talk.

Simon losing a fair hand-to-hand fight with Kyle would be the ultimate fuck you to Simonfags.

There's no winning for Simonfags if the white space gets invoked. He can't win a fair fight because he wasn't trained by Batman and spent the time skip sitting around. If they bullshit spiral power working in white space, then Simon chickened out on a fair fist fight to use his powers.

There is no victory for Simon in this scenario.

How can Yoko even compete?

Didn't Simon fist fight with Viral in the shower room?

Kyle beat up Anarky so he's getting the Batman kung fu scaling. Simon is fucked.

Swan posted how a naked Batman could beat Homelander

Naked Kyle scale chains to naked Batman

Simon's best powerless feat comes from a fight in prison showers

Why is this matchup so fucking gay?

thats the thing she doesnt

Did you see how much of the fanart is symmetrical drill docking