Death Battle

What?

capeSOVL

Yup.

OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
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Post characters who have really good alternate opponents that they’ll never get to fight in Death Battle.

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ENOUGH! DCshitters, it's time that you answer the real questions! Is Kyle a Reifag or Asukafag?

Fridgefag

Uh... what can Jenny actually do? Because Nono busts planets like its nothing and can summon black holes at reaction speed.

I don't know a lot about Jenny, but given the sort of show that she is from I just have trouble imagining that this is actually a fair matchup.

Neither, he's a Kaorufag

Yugi vs Ash is kind of retarded because it always devolves into fucking playground rules.

Well, he'd have every card ever

He'd also be able to summon them instantly no cost

He'd also be able to use Mind Crush to kill Ash instantly

All of his cards can just instantly kill Ash and his Pokemon

He can also make unique game rule called "Yugi wins and Ash gets cancer" and if Ash doesn't follow that rule he dies instantly

And all of Yugi's monsters have infinity attack and defense

And Yugi has a gun he could just shoot Ash with

And Ash only gets 6 of his Pokemon, it's only fari

And Ash has a bomb strapped to his chest and if his heart beats the bomb will go off

And Yugi will have Jack

Jenny does have the option to speedblitz Nono, for all her impressive offensive feats we’ve never seen Nono actually tank any attacks aside from when she was controlling Diebuster, one good hit to take her down should be feasible for a robot who can casually travel between galaxies entirely by herself.

Can Yugi summon and use monsters IRL?
Yes

www3.animeflv.net/ver/yu-gi-oh-182
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Yugi can summon monsters he wants to irl without a care for tribute to fight the very real orichalcos serpent god.

Excuse the spanish dub.

Are duel monsters just holograms?
No

As shown in GX, the duel monster world is its own separate realm and not just fictional
www3.animeflv.net/ver/yu-gi-oh-183 in ep 183, 1:02 has DMG literally lead a full on duel monster army to attack orichalcos serpent

Why hasnt Yugi killed his foes with duel monsters before?

In general he doesnt kill

1 pegasus has his granpa soul and wants it back, bakura and pegasus use their MIs in this season's finale to try to kill the other.

2 they were trapped in nova's digital world

3 marik has good marik captive and yugi wanted to save him for Ishizu's request, marik also haxes a guard with a spell card in s3

4 orichalcos duels cannot be abandoned just like how yugi tried to against the first duel of the season and they are rituals to steal the others soul. and in this very same seson he summons monsters irl to kill other irl monsters such as orichalcos god
in ep 183, Dark magicial girl literally leads a duel monster world charge against the serpent as well
Capsule monsters - yugi uses capsule monsters and duel armors to kill other real monsters and against Alexander the great

PoL - he kills anubis in this movie with shining dragon

5 bakura also has a good side both yugies wanna save so killing him would not work, also they use fucking monsters to try to kill Zorc

GX- They fucking use monsters irl too and yubel uses her duel power ba to almost merge all 12 dimensions then make them explode

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE JACK THATS AGAINST THE RULES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You have to be retarded if you believe only Yugi fags were the ones doing retarded wank, did you ignore the entire universal pokeyman argument, which lead to Digimon fags making them a new one?

Its just something that has too many questions in regards to how things would interact. How does a pokemon even measure up to a yugioh monster? Can they even pen a the defense stat of one or crash over it?

these shorts are the reason think Yugi and Ash have anything in common

plus 4kids and literal meme videos like Cell vs Ash

Yugi has just had more wank saying he can use spell cards to insta-kill anything as well as use monsters with infinite attack as well as using Exodia which just instantly wins.
I'd believe Yugioh Monsters have better feats when it comes to lore or whatever but it kind of gets ridiculous. Card game rules aren't going to be one to one to an actual battle.

Actually blow through vsbattle scaling criteria

Entirely curated to protect statementfags

I shant be taking them seriously anymore.

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A lot of that just doesn't apply anyway with a lot of it is things Ash can already bypass. If Pikachu before even reached Leon level (who already got stronger before their final bout) could contribute in taking down Eternamax Eternatus which already has infinite power, what's the big deal? Even mind crush isn't going to work anyway considering the conditions needed.

these shorts are the reason think Yugi and Ash have anything in common

...yeah? They're two popular monster buddy anime that aired around the same time.

based on IRL children

outerversal

monster buddy is a genre now

fucking smt vs digimon vs yugioh vs pokemon vs card captor sakura are all "thematic" now according to this clown

Ash caught all of existence already. You can't top that.

Mirror Force

cardcaptor sakura

"monster buddy"

No one thinks of that series as a monster series you absolute buffoon.

Eternamax doesn't have "infinite power". It has infinite energy. Volts =/= amps.

Also it was no selling basically everything from Pikachu, the only thing that took it down was Zacian/Zamazenta who don't scale at all anyway.

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I think we are forced to assume that Nono can take a hit, because its illogical for her not to be. She was designed to fight Space Monsters, and Gunbuster Space Monsters are horrifically powerful by the standards of most settings considering that they lay their eggs in stars, can fire ranged attacks clean through planets like they were made of paper, and travel in swarms of trillions.
Nono's job is to defend the entire solar system from space monsters indefinitely without any human oversight or interaction such that they can just ignore the rest of the galaxy and never have to think about the space monsters ever again. A job that she has done SUCCESSFULLY for 12,000 years. The idea that she wouldn't be built tough as shit is absurd.

We know that she isn't invulnerable, because she was found disabled by that astronaut some years ago and suffered memory loss, but even in that state she was still physically intact and had all of her limbs and shit. Just surviving a space monster attack at all is pretty damn tough, since you need nukes even to kill the itty-bitty ones and the larger ones don't even notice direct nuclear strikes.

Monster Capture/tame/buddy
Yes. All of those series have that in common. A (usually) normal person taming and befriending a monster that fights for them. SMT and CCS are massively different series, one is a baby's first series and the other is a manga by CLAMP; but they fall under that broad category.

Why do people always bitch and say Ash vs Yugi has nothing in common, it should be obvious what the connections are if you have two working eyes and know anything about both and their franchises

and yet he lost to Jack meaning
Jack > Ash's Pokéball > existence

NTA but are they not? In the people used to compare digimon and yugioh and People STILL call smt "Edgy pokemon" I never watched card captor sakura so I can't say anything about that.

cell vs ash

can you post it?

The first four, sure

But... we gotta take downplayers seriously?

I renember a faggot having a literal meltdown because I was posting Kratos myriads of anti feats, to the point he said that I was making "anti kratos propaganda". Fucking retards.

Jack does the miracle machine scream ending Ash and Superman

So is the idea here that if I punched this thing or threw a rock at it, i'd also scale infinitely even if it did nothing?

Wasn't Ash capturing all of existence during the Hoen region? Ash lost that first round but he won the war.

kratos anti-feats

Lemme guess you just posted him being hurt by random monsters in the game?

WRONG. Yugi's magic cloak card makes the pokeballs disappear.

u mad. u obsessed.

Why didn't Yugi use his magic cloak to stop Ash from capturing existence then?

It hasn't even been tried.

Well, yeah, the series is done but by what we know about Spiral Power, the Spiral Nemesis is linked to it inherently, changing it from happening, would require reality warping to a conceptual level, something Simon has not been shown to be capable, otherwise this DB discussion is pointless when Simon could just erase Kyle at a conceptual level

The entire time it's some hypothetical brought up by the Anti-Spiral that never came to be.

And I'm telling you that Nakashima makes it clear that it's a real event that will happen had Spirals lost control

Because it's recent.

The Muganns attacking the Earth wasn't recent? It was like two weeks ago that Kamina City was on fire because higher dimensional aliens blew it up, with at least thousands dead.

People have already moved on from the deaths of people like Kamina

What about the people who still mourn the deaths of those who died against the Spiral King? Who's to say how long it should take for someone to move on from that?

freshly dead people have no reason to remain dead if you can bring them back.

That would disrupt the Spiral order but whatever dude. You just sound bitter about the ending, which I can understand at least,

Unless of course you don't trust Simon with that.

I trust Simon with everything, ironically it feels like you don't trust Simon with that because Simon chose not to revive anyone at the end of the day, while you're arguing that he should have.

Lemme guess you just posted him being hurt by ra-AIEEEEE A 2 TON PILLAR, MY ONLY WEAKNESS, NOOOOOOOO

He tried to argue that the pillar became a 5-D multiversal construct because he was thrown..By a (supossed) 5D multiversal deity.

Gurren Lagann/Simon can absorb higher-dimensional energy exactly like lantern energy

Gurren Lagann/Simon can weaponize higher-dimensional energy and pull a reverse Uno card

Gurren Lagann/Simon's power will keep rising while Kyle's will be limited, even as the White Lantern.

Kyle is VERY COMMONLY getting his energy stolen

HMMMMMMMMM

the pillar was conformed of magical 20Dimensional material pls understand

She's been doing this for almost a year now. This is elite autism.

Greek kratos wasnt the god of war when that happened you idiot

It takes narration as word of god. For example, if someone could blow up all matter in a multiverse of 10 finite universes, and then another character could blow up a multiverse of an infinite number of universes, including all the branching timelines all the way down their time continuum and then RAPE and GAPE the very laws of physics that govern every universe individually.

The former would still scale to the latter because the narrator of the first universe said that he can destroy a multiverse. Even if that character also gets raped by a bear or soemthing.

If kratos was multiversal, then he would obviously be able to do feats like this, right?

So guys really share porn with each other?

Eternamax doesn't have "infinite power"

Yes it does. It produces an infinite amount of energy to the point of power overload, warping spacetime as a result.

Zacian/Zamazenta don't scale

They very obviously do because they beat the thing down. Pikachu and gang still helped when it came to taking it down. They aren't some laughably large amount weaker than Zacian/Zamazenta by the end anyway. This is still all before the powering up they did before the Masters 8. Leon was already beating base Eternatus anyway.

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Powerscale this (bigger) pillar, then. I guess it is a boundless construct than came from real life. Also not even the writtes themselves believe on Kratos nonsense.

I remember the time Daredevil once hit the wall and destroyed an entire town

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what is the font death battle uses and how did you get that bg

i mean forums share jav codes for porn movies

whilst vaguely fitting into the monster buddies paradigm, SCC is mahou shoujo which is one less connection to many monster buddies like monster rancher that are shounen-oriented

if

Kratos is multiversal. Just like Odin, just like zeus. You do know hes not even the only multiversal character in fiction right? I dont get this cope about kratos...

unnecessary homosexual fantasies

So Kyle won?

This matchup is quickly becoming one of the funniest just because this shit exists.
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Omniversal bear then.

Nope

The Muganns attacking the Earth wasn't recent? It was like two weeks ago that Kamina City was on fire because higher dimensional aliens blew it up, with at least thousands dead.

Bring them back too. There's no real point to not doing so other than thematic reasons but thematic reasoning should still be supported by some degree of in-universe logic and there's nothing lost by bringing them back. There's zero practical reason for it. Even the idea of "new generation" is just false, Kamina having some throwaway line about the newer guys doesn't suddenly make what Simon said at the end relevant to anything that happened inbetween.

Yep

No don't you fucking bring up god of war 4 you retard. You posted greek era kratos first. You will discuss greek kratos. DONT FUCKING RUN FROM ME YOU BITCH.

Anon... There are multiple boards on this site dedicated to sharing porn. Unless you're assuming everyone is actually a girl fantasizing about sex with men constantly.

maybe

Can I play Kuriboh?

No

What the fuck Yugi?

It's not his card. Of course he can't play it.
Honestly I kind of expect the match to go like that though

Your pokeballs are cards? That's crazy!

1 billion bears vs one of every Kratos

All of that is true, but the fact that Nono has been demonstrated to be capable of being disabled and has very few durability feats to work with should put her within Jenny’s means to destroy or harm, the first alone has Jenny blow up an asteroid stated to destroy the Earth if it made impact, a shot with that much firepower connecting with Nono would do plenty of damage if it doesn’t outright obliterate her.

RIP all the people in that town and in this part of the city which he easily destroyed.

Yugi was being a bro. He knows kuriboh is best used as a hand trap.

Nigger, your point was that it wasn't God kratos, I posted a Kratos which should be around the same strenght as him, running from his life from...A falling 80 ton pillar (omniversal deity, btw).

Just look up Death Battle font on Google

The whores who kratos fucked tanked his multiversal cock btw

Fuark. A 5 ton 20 featbear....Which means that the bear is omniversal...

Doesn't Marik merge with Ra when he duels Atem?

You're using the game dex entry for anime shit. The spacetime stuff doesn't happen in the anime.
The entire point of Eternatus is that it's supposed to be a battery that Rose was going to use to power Galar, it has an infinite power storage, but doesn't transmit that much all at once. Think the androids from Dragon Ball, just because they run on an infinite energy source doesn't mean they can output that much.

They very obviously do because they beat the thing down

Literally none of their attacks do any damage. It's outright stated.
And I'm saying Pikachu and co. don't scale to Zacian/Zamazenta in literally any way.

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fight Kratos won

I meean...sure.
The point is yugi using duel monsters outside of a duel

Because the multiversal conceptual deity that kratos is supossed to be, being lterally gaped by a fucking (very) big bear makes no sense.

You underestimate the power of cookbooks, GoW was inspired by TORIKO because food makes Kratos strong

Don’t you just hate it when totally-normal-not-magic-shapeshifter Bears reach down your chimney with their 10 foot long stretchy arms and scissor your kids into pieces with their katana-length claws

I was just unaware that deathbattle and powerscaling in general needs to consider plot induced stupidity when accounting for the peak of a characters power...

Soloes the sonicverse

Speedforcesisters, you'll want to sit this one out.

That bear is supernaturally large..That explains why it is able to gape a person who can destroy a multiverse

Retardo.

Kratos is confirmed to be holding back in the sequels

It also is not a bear, it’s a shapeshifting berserker empowered by a dark god
You also fight those berserkers in the DLC and they’re in-lore stronger than the valkyries, who have multiverse busting feats
But of course you thought the bear with elongated mr tickle arms is just a normal slightly larger bear

A giant crocodile that spits waterballs hard enough to harm Kratos and gets killed by knives and arrows is considered a tough boss fight

How does Death Battle expect me to believe this guy can even tickle Asura?

Goes from killing titans to struggling with this

is this like a higher dimension or something?

Anon, are you just being dumb on purpose? He just told you why it's a bad idea to revive them.

Didn't the valkyries struggle to kill a literal dying man? I guess dying men are BOUNDLESS DEITIES.

Kratos is omniscient and has outerversal knowledge so he intentionally held back here because he knew Baldur, who is a sadistic psychopath wouldn't hurt his kid. Kratos wants to make it entertaining for the player (who's not actually playing because this is a moviegame but you get the point). GODtos is truly omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omnivastant

Non Kratosfag,
but what if normal setting but it's a supergravity realm where gravity and energy is literally infinity.
Just being able to survive in it would make you BOUNDLESS btw desu

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Blah blah blah Kratos is multiversAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEE DON’T SPIT WATERBALLS AT ME CROCODILE SAMAAAAAAA YOU’RE HURTING MEEEEEEEEEEE

*slits wrist*
I am now a TITAN!!!!!!

If this was true, then why did he let Asgard be destroyed?

Martial peak has that...But also Martial peak has stars of galaxies. So eh...

Bring them back too.

Bring back tens of 1000s of people? And you think won't interrupt natural order?

There's no real point to not doing so other than thematic reasons

Yes there is, it's called the Spiral Nemesis. At this point we are just getting into headcanon territory though.

some degree of in-universe logic and there's nothing lost by bringing them back.

A Spiral moves forward, if they die, they're dead. The flow continues forward, that is the Spiral. If you bring them back, the flow is interrupted. Chaos ensues.

Even the idea of "new generation" is just false, Kamina having some throwaway line about the newer guys

Dude if you really think that was a throwaway line then you probably didn't watch the show right, for any other reason beyond powerfagging. The "next generation" is very much present throughout the show

Kamina's Dad > Kamina > Simon > Gimmy

Lordgenome > Simon

the Anti-Spiral > Simon

Father Magin > Rossiu

Not to mention Simon's speech in the final fight

This drill will open a hole in the universe! And that hole will be a path for those behind us! The dreams of those who've fallen! The hopes of those who'll follow! Those two sets of dreams weave together into a double helix! Drilling a path towards tomorrow!

Is it possible that when writing a story keeping a characters power consistent should come before narrative choices? Like why didnt odin just use big rocks to harm kratos and the gang? Didnt he see that they were being threatened by big rocks earlier in the game? Doesnt make any sense... why is he using spells to fight?

So can anyone tell me what exactly the speed force that the Green Lanterns are capable of conjuring does? Or where I could see more information?

stars the size of galaxies

That “dying man” was a berserker

NTA

And you think won't interrupt natural order?

Fuck natural order
Just do it anyway lmao

but what about issues

Just fix them too?

Is it possible that when writing a story keeping a characters power consistent should come before narrative choices? Like why didn’t Kratos just instantly kill that giant crocodile with the power of Hope? Isn’t he trillions of times faster than light? Why is he treating it like a tough battle and getting hurt by waterballs?

And that's TENGEN TOPPA!

this person is multiversal, the reason that person wasn't able to kill a dying man is because the dying man, you guess it, was also multiversal, the somewhat supernatural bear is also multiversal (it is two times as long as a normal bear, so that makes sense).

Of course there are no outliers if everyone is omniversal boundless omnistavance, retardo bro, what are you going to argue, that the rocks that hurted Krtatos are also a godly construct?

Because it’s a mythological setting and that is a magic/mythological crocodile beast
Same way the Aztec creator gods got fucked up by a magic aztec crocodile or Norse gods got fucked up by a wolf.
They’re not just normal animals same way as the gods aren’t normal humans.

THAT'S GURREN LAGANN

Just do it anyway lmao

It would kill everyone, Simon literally gets negged by the Spiral Nemesis

Just fix them too?

How are you going to fix the Spiral Nemesis, which is the logical conclusion uncontrolled Spiral Power, the force that links Spiral lifeforms to the infinite Universe, without some crazy conceptual manipulation hax that Simon has never been shown capable of?

Why doesn't Superman just pop Lex's head off by blinking at him from across Metropolis.

Holy fuark, a building level mythological giant crocodile…….

THE ENTIRE FAUNA IS OMNIVERSAL

KEK.

You seem to be seething a lot because I exposed your lies and falsehoods for everyone to see
Literal shapeshifting berserker empowered by a cthonic god
Stronger than the valkyries who destroyed multiverses
Only people who valkyries ever struggled against were berserkers
Kratos beat both of these
Kneel to your king

By going row row fight da powah, duh.
Just punch it in the face really hard.

The entire point of Eternatus is that it's supposed to be a battery that Rose was going to use to power Galar

Which still applies to it being able to produce infinite energy. The same applied to the games where Rose wanted to use it for the same reason, the lore like that gets passed around even in the anime anyway. Why should I expect anything different? They always have the same lore attached. I don't expect Pikachu and Leon's Charizard to stay surpassed by the end by Zacian and Zamazenta especially when Leon's base Charizard was winning against base Eternatus anyway.
Of course, I could just pull Masters out of my ass (with it tying in to the anime after all) and say Ash scales there where Leon full on uses Eternamax itself.

Literally yes. It’s a mythological setting.
That crocodile would solo Superman and Goku’s verses and appear cosmic-sized to them

Stronger than the valkyries who destroyed multiverses

Post the valkeryes destroying a multiverse.

One character blows up planets

Other is wall level

Put the wall level character into the other's settings and he's universal

Take the planetary character and put him in the wall level's setting and he explodes in a squall of gore

kino, imagine the seethe

>THE ENTIRE FAUNA IS OMNIVERSAL

Then why did she fucking graduate?

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Sounds like some pretty fragile multiverses.

I don’t know what a valkerye is

Does that make the cocodrile waterball multiversal?

Anon, stop shitposting.

Spits subsonic waterball at you

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In Hal Jordan and the GLC #29, there's a story where Omega Beams are going all over the cosmos and killing New Gods
One of them goes after Highfather, who's been taken around the galaxy by Lightray, and Hal needs to catch up to him
In the process he goes really fast with his jet construct and they say "speed force" on panel for a second. So he can't conjure it but was going fast enough that he could have accidentally entered it.

This same run has the GLs use specific superluminal pathways to go FTL around the universe though

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Ultraman vs Ultraman (DC) is actually a very interesting fight that comes down to how their powers interact but they're both tied to different opponents in the vs community.

He's a Norikofag.

Devolves into playground rules

As it should. The best part of the fight is going to be seeing the two counter each other's plays with lateral thinking. From a strict vs battle standpoint, Yugi just absorbs Ash's entire team into the puzzle as soon as the bell rings, but that's boring. Blending the two rules sets, however, is very fun.

Can Yugi summon monsters IRL

You're right in that he can and he probably doesn't even need the cards to do it since the Egyptian Gods were being summoned back in Egypt with just the millennium items. He could probably summon monsters he doesn't even use like Blue Eyes. The only caveat is that there's no guarantee all the cards exist as duel spirits. It's likely that some cards, like Leon's, don't have duel spirits because Pegasus just made them based on his ideas.

Are duel monsters just holograms?

In Arc-V they're hardlight now and people can ride them.

Why hasn't Yugi killed?

Same reason he never soul-sucked a person while Bakura and Pegasus have: he has honor. It's his anti-drug.
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The power level scaling is going to be bullshit but since they put in an image of GSOS attacking the moon they probably will, unironically, argue that 1300 ATK equals blowing up the moon.

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Fine...Post the valkyries destroying a multiverse.

I mean if you believe that Simon can do that, like Wally West outrunning the Speed Force, more power to you

simon is too CHUD to do that and punch this Spiral Nemesis in the face when even anon could do it

WEAK

Yep. Aztecs also had a multiverse and a previous universe was destroyed by a big ball of water

Oh, I should have guessed that it was once again a context specific situation. Thanks for the issue number.

If all the stars align juuuust right then Kyle can literally hop out of the comic into the real world and write the script.

MY DRILL IS THE DRILL THAT CREATES THE HEAVENS

Kyle fags don't even read the fucking comics

imagine my shock

Literal shapeshifting berserker empowered by a cthonic god

it is powered by a [featless fraud] so that means he scale to that featless fraud. The featless fraud feats...Uh....He scales to someone who scales to someone who scales to someone who scales to someone who shook a multiverse (probably)

Really? We have gone this through SEVERAL times, for almost an entire month, just because you are empowered by something doesn't mean you scale to that thing without any proofs. This is the same argument that Kyle fags tried to use, to explain how the LE has boundless beyond reality warping capabilities.

HOLY FUARK VALKYRIEBROS WE MADE THE 9 BILLION TRILLION MILLION KRATOSVERSAL TREE BLEED AND WE HELD OUR OWN AGAINST FUARKING ATREUS FUUUUAAAAAAAARRRRKKKKKKKKKK

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We need a out of context panel where it says Kyle is literally god only for the next panel to clarify he is not so Death Battle can take it out of context and use it as a feat.

ValKINGries…

Then why didn't the cocodrile waterball destroyed a multiverse, if he is capable of harming KINGtos the omniversal deity?

Giant Soldier of Stone? Passes the Roshi test.

If Death Battle weren't cowards, they'd do this match

this is boring, Atreus stomps

HASHIRIDASHITA OMOI GA IMA DEMO
KONO MUNE WO TASHIKANI TATAUTERU KARA
KYOU NO BOKU GA SONO SAKI NI TSUZUKU
BOKURA NARI NO ASU WO KIZUITEIKU
KOTAE WA SOU ITSUMO KOKO NI ARU

The gods of incomprehensible power…

Out of all the things Kratos has been hurt by a waterball is by far the most pathetic, everything else at least makes sense in the scale of his games, but a fucking crocodile spitball tapping him is enough to harm him, really?

Shut up cucky soi, the MEN are talking here:

There is nothing in Kyle's arsenal as powerful and as quick to turn the tide of battle as Sorairo Days.

Wouldn't be the only time they had cards based on IRL children.

KRAKA-DOOOOOM
ENTER....
THOR, THE GOD OF THUNDER

Outerversal multi FTL 9th Dimensional Bear
Kratosbros?!?!?!?!

More like
THOR, THE LACK OF SALES

Kratos has so many anti feats, that his scaling may as well be considered PIS now.

Kratos has plenty of good feats.
He just has a lot (read: literally 99% of everything he does) of antifeats if you think he can so much as blow up a planet, let alone a universe.
He's otherwise a pretty solid high street/low-mid building busting character

Atreus is the same age as cucky simon in Valhalla (14) and he gets a harem, so he does outscale gurren lagannverse in base chudbeit

"Mons" have always been a genre mate

SAAAAAAAAAAAARS

Most series will typically depict things like guns or monsters with additional decals so it doesn't just come across as literally your average gun or animal, think of how Yugioh monsters or Pokemon that are really strong aren't just literally the animal they're based on with no additional discerning features.
They'll also typically depict these items doing wacky shit, like how most series have human characters do shit like bust a planet or whatever so you know this dude means business. They typically don't do something like depict what appears to be a regular man getting shot at or mauled by what appears to be a regular bear only to casually write in a lorebook that actually everything depicted was infinitely multiversal conceptually platonic shit

HOLY FUCK THE GOW ROCKS REALLY ARE OUTERVERSAL, JUST LOOK AT THOR BRAGGING ABOUT BREAKING THEM WITH MJOLNIR

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ITT: “Wtf why is Herakles struggling against these magic lions and magic pigeons I thought you said Greek Gods are multiversal”

I am... defeated

This is the power of a GOD

*barely above a high grade RPG explosion*

This. They’re disingenuous because they know Kratos beat them and they have no genuine counteragument to get back their lost dignity.
As a kratos scholar I forgive them and hope they will be better.

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Post Kratos destroying a galaxy.

Hercules

struggling against the Nemean Lion

Actually he had a pretty easy time with that, also it was stated to be magical and did some shit since the medium was limited in visually depicting the lion's capabilities, also it was his first labour

ITT: “WTF why is the guy who destroys universes and is trillions of times faster than light getting his ass beat by an oversized crocodile”

Okay, so that leaves... Spectre lifting and Kilowog surviving Crisis on Infinite Earths. Is there any additional context to those?

Kratos is really strong physically and obviously has crazy lifting strength (see, pushing agaisnt Cronos, the Hecatoncheires etc), but I don't understand why there are so many Kratosfags who say he has infinite speed when the games themselves show multiple times throughout the series, in cutscenes, that he is at most around marvel super soldier tiers of speed, and frankly at times it seems like he is not even that, struggling to be that fast.

I’m pretty sure most if not all the crocodiles Kratos has fought were magical

I think I recall running into a SethTheProgrammer video about God of War once where it mentioned all this nonsense and ever since then we've gotten the outerversal bear.

That oversized cocodrile is magical, that obviously means it can destroy a multiverse, you don't believe me? Then I guess actual mythology only peaks at wall level (Just ignore that going by that logic, Naruto would scale to fucking buddhaism).

"Beware my power, green lanterns light!"

"Cool light show, dumbass."

How does a crocodile being magical allow it to survive a punch from a guy who can destroy universes?

Kilowog never tanked the anti-matter waves, what actually happened is his ring teleported him to another universe
Whenever death battle says "survived", it means "escaped"

Does that mean that Itachi is galactic?

Kyle really shouldn't get that feat. Hal did it, and he had to push himself to do it. If creating speed force jets was something all lanterns could do, they would have sent a fleet after Lightray not just Hal.

Was Kratos holding back when his punches couldn’t even destroy a single stone pillar?

Itachi is High Boundless+++ when downplaying

No because this is an actual, physical place. time travellers later went to the empty battlefield while Kratos and Ares were battling in the dimension

we should've long accepted they'll say Kyle can do literally everything a Lantern has done ever, to be honest.

nothing happened

no dimension destroyed

shows him getting mind raped

Retardbro…

Galaxy level Hokuto no Ken

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Going back and reading the issue I'm not entirely sure Hal accomplishes this under his own power.

When he starts racing Lightray his Lantern construct immediately begins breaking down and he talks about an "energy wake" outside his cockpit. The "energy wake" then has him see some strange version of his father's ghost who encourages him to keep going but it's also implied the wake is somehow allowing him to go faster than what's physically possible.

The energy wake also screws with his communications with John, and he only manages to re establish them after he catches up to Highfather in the first place.
Seems like a really weird feat

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he hasn't seen the Kyle preview

Why didn’t Ares drop an entire galaxy on top of Kratos in his boss fight is he stupid?

This thing from Puzzle and Dragons is meant to be star-level, notice how it doesn't look like an ordinary crocodile or bear but actually monstrous and removed from reality to conceivably bust a star without needing to visually be depicted doing anything it is claimed to be able to casually do

fuwark....

Nobody in narutard is even above wall level

Hares super duper galactic sword gets outmached by...A building sized sword that wasn't even made for battle.

What is with GOW and building level things gapping the literal god tiers

every impressive feat kyle has is incidental

Why didn’t Ares just dump his entire dimension on top of Kratos and instantly kill him is he retarded?

the “Ares’ illusion is real” argument is happening again

Do not engage with the retard.

Reminder the GOW guide stated in plain english that just a single thunderbolt from Zeus threatened to destroy trhe universe until Zeus trapped the fure under a volcano
“B-but why can it be contained by a volcano” because it’s magic dumbasses. Same shit with magic animals and magic weapons in every mythology ever

Every single that happened in DC is because of Kyle. In fact, he's the back bone of all of fictional history. If it happened in fiction, it's because Kyle did it.

Okay? Luckily we don't scale creation feats to AP, and Kratos didn't destroy Ares galactic domain (which wouldn't make sense if he did, as Ares gets literally gapped by a concrete building sized sword.

I doubt anyone but middle aged otaku know who Golgo is. 47 will get Spy or a Wick runback.
Yeah, I can't see them being interested in using Terry again.

Maybe they'll do a new Golgo anime eventually. It got an anniversary not too long ago.

bruno veloassqueso

Is NOT a writer on GOW1, pablo
PLAY THE FUCKING GAMES instead of sucking off your mexican janitor coffee bitch It’s real and you physically fight in the empty battlefield after they leave

Ares gets literally gapped by a concrete building sized sword

Multiversal+++ concrete sword, please understand…

Why didn’t Ares just destroy the universe in his boss fight with Kratos to kill him instantly is he stupid?

Generally, things like real world animals or guns should either be
A. Fantastical enough of a design to be removed from reality and thus conceivable of doing exceptionally impressive feats
B. Actually be depicted doing said feats or similar.

FUARK STOP DEBUNKING ME YOU EDUCATED GENIUS CULTURED KRATOS SCHOLAR THE ONLY CULTURE I KNOW IS DEATH BATTLE AND SHONENSHIT AAAIIIIEEEEEEE

Wait, 2020 was 5 years ago? Nevermind...

that's lame, have them be regular animals like Animal Kaiser

mindbroken by Bruno

As expected.

THE GAME DIRECTOR DOESN'T KNOW JACKSHIT...I KNOW MORE THAN HIM

Does GOW fags actually love the games they are wanking? Because that seems very disrespectful.

- s_y capeshitter.

Why did Zeus not destroy all of reality with a thunderbolt to kill Kratos is he dumb?

OH OH OH
IT’S MAGIC
YOU KNO-O-OW
ALWAYS BELIEVE IN
KIINGTOOOOS

A. Fantastical enough of a design to be removed from reality and thus conceivable of doing exceptionally impressive feats

B. Actually be depicted doing said feats or similar.

Xianxia gawds...We do all of those things (also something something those animals are literally being amped by multiversal energy in some cases).

Yeah notice how even in Animal Kaiser they visually show impressive feats and don't just have the animals do absolutely nothing impressive or larger than life and then casually write in a guidebook "These are all star level btw"

He’s not the game director you lying mexican pig
Holy fuck enough with your lying to save face this is so pathetic

absolutely rancid idea: betting real money on these fights.

I bet my life savings on Kyle. Cant wait to retire early

Like his son Kratos there is good inside him and he would not destroy the world and people he cultivated (it also would not be enough to kill Kratos)

Bruno Velazquez working on God of War in an official capacity means his word matters more than every single God of War fan on the planet btw

The Animation Director doesn't know what is happening in the series he is directing? That sounds like fucking bullshit.

By the way has anyone watched the new Batman Ninja movie yet? It was written by Nakashima, the same writer from Gurren Lagann

I was a mexican janitor cleaning up the shits Cory Barlog would plop in the middle of the floor that means I decide the canon

Batman has Gurren Lagann scaling

Holy FUARK……..

Batgod supports Simon

I found that scene where Batman watches Bane fucking Catwoman from some bushes very strange especially when he starts calling him Big Bro for the rest of the film

No money in the world holds the value I'll find in watching Simonfags on here seethe without end. A whole new form of Spiral Power will form from that shit.

We know anon who keeps crying like a bitch whenever someone posts a Bruno statement.

Damn the lantern girl looks sexier and cuter than any DC girl in over a decade. What's her name?

did he also write the previous one with the Batman mech made out of bats, monkeys, and Batman?

When simonfags lose you’re gonna have to call everyone here Big Bro from now on, and you shall be called Lil Bro

You could make enough money from selling all the salt spilled in these threads when Kyle loses to make your own business.

Mech made of bats monkeys and Batman

That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. I'll take 50

youtube.com/watch?v=r4O270_mlbo
Woah notice how the whale actually slaps the Earth out of the galaxy and it didn't just do generic whale shit and then they casually wrote in a cookbook that it was actually a universebuster

When is the animation preview.

Kylebros why don’t WE ever get anything cool like this?

Wednesday or Thursday

Tomorrow

He’s genuinely mindbroken and seethes like a rabid dog whenever Bruno is brought up. Actually hilarious.

monkeys are joker’s weakness everyone knows this

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when the podcast episode comes out, so tomorrow since they changed that from Wednesdays to Tuesdays

He's about to go 4-0

It’s very hilarious you can never get statements from the actual creators, and eveey time need to cope with your mexican twitter cousin

Obviously, he's been supporting Simon this entire time!

BatGod = GodBat

God = Kami

Bat = Batman

the song goes "nananananana Batman"

Kami + na

Kamina

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IESLB

Warrior-Z seething

Kek.

If I told you this Fish was actually at least planet level, you'd probably believe it on the account of actually looking cosmic and not literally just your average fish in the ocean, right

then why'd he train Kyle?

HOLY FUARK BATMAN KEKED SIMON
Kneel and Gimme Nia right now you cucky BITCH

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Yes he wrote both

reality flip

the fact that this idea gained any sort of traction goes to show how retarded Kratosfags are

be GoW creator

some faggots both pro and anti-Kratos constantly ask you about VS Battles bullshit you don't care about

I'd be annoyed too if II'm being honest.

He trained him wrong on purpose as a joke. That's why he loses that fist fight in the first place.

Shut the fuck up Rajeet, we are bullying GOW fags for the 245th time.

because Batman is a whore

Nia vs my cock and balls

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE NEXT MATCHUP YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT KRATOS FOR THE 193629118 TIME THIS WEEK

BIG BAT BRO??!!! YOU’RE GONNA GIVE NIA AND YOKO THE BIG BAT COCK??!!!

Talking about my fetishes is match up related discussion!

Pokedex wank

Pokémon Ash doesn't even have vs thing Yugi always has

Don't make me play Mario.

Listroon out of nowhere

Ryonadeities out of fucking nowhere

NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO SPEW THE EXACT SAME ANNOYING SHIR WE'VE SAID IN THE LAST THREADS UNTIL THE FIGHT COMES OUT!!!!!

Ryonadeities

Ben anonymously jerking himself off…

better some new same shit then 5 month old same shit

Batchad would beat Simon up and cuck him and make him do his chores and call him “lil bro” but he wouldn’t let simon be robin (robin actually requires a little respect)
Yoko can be Batgirl tho, since she wants it so bad

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It's on movies7 if you guys want to watch

Creates an infinite branch of set theory universes in which the only common variable is your favorite HERO is a cuck

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Jeet ban evading to spam his fetishes all over the thread again

Energy wake is speed force energy. It's why Hal is seeing his father from the past.

That’s already how it is in Gurren Lagann, we tank it cause you changed NOTHING

Jobs to a bunch of acasual birds

there are infinire gurren lagann timelines

there’s also none where Simon isn’t Kamina’s pathetic cuck because Otoko erased that possibility

FUARK INFINITE CUCCK POWER

I haven't been reading the last few threads, did anybody get to posting Kyle destroying a galaxy?

Nope

658169

infinire

I guess grammarly finally gave up on rajeesh.

Imagine getting kekked infinite times across infinite timelines kekypow

Oh my god, is it too much to ask for Death Battle to actually give the entire context for things that they cite?

Conan the Barbarian

I have no idea who is winning the db, I have not watched any TTgl or read any green lantern comics (outside of Alan in the jsa). I am just here to post jobbing.

changes literally NOTHING

FUUUUUUAAAAARK, SIMON IS STRONG

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they usually leave that for the aftermath

Canon in every universe

Nah you don't get it he scales to dude that scales to a dude who was in the vacinity of a dude that blew up the multiverse he totally scales above galaxy

can literally just write himself being invulnerable and omnipotent

doesn't do it because????

Where's the infinite possibility of Nia sucking my dick?

Bad writer. DC is filled with those in case you haven't noticed

You're so focused on your cuck memes that you forgot that if Yoko so much as kisses Bruce he's fucking dead.

one Big Crunch

Impressive...?

Yoko has the kiss of death.

Big Crunch of the entire multiverse

Apparently it's Jessica Cruz. From SHG to the RWBY crossovers, it seems like DC has been really insistent on pushing her.

Post Kyle surviving a Multiversal Big Crunch

I would have said Captain Marvel but you know what? Thor really does sound like a good match.

Then why hasn’t DC used her in any of their live action movies yet? All this pushing and yet they won’t put Jessica where normalfags will actually notice her.

BatGOD

The joke was that he's not the writer anymore so he can die.

FUARKKKKKK BIG BRO BATCHAD-SAMA YOU HAVE OUTSMARTED AND OUTMANNED ME ONCE AGAIN YOKO AND NIA’S SOAKING PUSSIES ARE YOUURRRSSSSS

They shill characters based on what slot they occupy. Jessica's slot was "girl lantern" which was taken over by Jo.

Cause we haven't had a live-action lantern project in years and the new one is going to focus on John.

he's still going

don't you have someone to scam

BatCHAD always wins...

No wonder Superman only loses to this bullshitter lmao

“FUCK! J-just get it over with Big Bro…”

That Gojo fag really brought up a good point on Gojo being a fraud checker.
JJK deals with a bit of "fantasy" science/mathematics and has concept like actual infinity durability/distance and just has him tossing out dark energy anti-matter meme purple bolts.

Despite being fantastical in nature, most death battle characters that don't have smart authors don't have means to fucking kill or tank Gojob without huffing MASSIVE amounts copium

the dorky nerd, nigger, and alcoholic womanizer victim

Couldn't be me.

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The Spectre feat is just retarded. He falls onto the surface of the moon and the moon supports his weight perfectly fine. The only thing Kyle does is create a forcefield around the area for Flash/Batman/Plas to breathe in.

You can even see on the very next page the ground underneath the Spectre is rocky, not lantern construct, so he is lying on the surface of the moon
I guess the moon is infinitely strong in DC, dials go way up

Brace yourselves...

The TTGL Universe is infinite as stated, with numerous higher dimensions, and personal infinite multiverses within it. You should be used to this, no? I'm sure DC has a similar system

"[Quantum cosmology] [Other] A theory of the universe explained by quantum mechanics. It analyzes the probabilistic interpretation of the universe from nothingness to entire Universe by dealing with the microcosm immediately after the birth of the universe."

Nakajima: (ignoring) However, I set the Spiral Nemesis as black matter that has mass and causes a Big Crunch that causes the Universe to contract and collapse. But if you think about it, it's the same as 'GaoGaiGar FINAL!' (laughs) So no more! Because it's 'Gurren Lagann,' when the Spiral Power is activated, people become he galaxy! In short, the Spiral Power of the double helix is actually transferring the energy of the spiral galaxy that is connected in another dimension. The infinite energy of Spiral Power is activated by controlling the energy of one galaxy with human will. When it becomes uncontrollable, it devours the flesh and a galaxy is born. Galaxies will be created in the universe as many as the number of spiral life forms, and as a result the Universe itself will collapse.

Poor joker and sephiroth

"Wasnt persona so outer?"

"Weak shits"

Holy fucking shit can they EVER stop lying?

one universe

"infinite dimensions bro"

More like, 10-11 at most, 12 if you're feeling generous.

Who fucking cares? Death Battle is fanfiction. Even when Kyle decimates Simon, it won't matter. It's noncanon. It's for fun, nobody actually cares how 'accurate' it is

The keep using that one panel where a construct from hal fucks up his footing lol

Simon's winning btw.

Yeah, a free ticket to hell.

Where in this screenshot does it imply there are only 11.

Canon

for fun? they put ads on this

I never said "infinite", I said numerous.

picrel

10-11 at most

Not what it says, but also check out my pic. Do you see the layers beyond the 11th dimension?

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Nobody actually cares

Threads have been spammed with cuck faggotry for several weeks

Nobody actually cares

A lot more than Dead Company's weakass cosmology at least.

No shit. More than half the official characters they've had on have been made to be radically ooc.

Good idea
Also can you make a thumbnail for me?

Dc bros..Our 10th beings are only bigger in a finite manner compared to our 2D pizza omniverse...

Batman, like every capeshit hero is a cuck. I got get hundreds of cuck panels from his comics but I am too bored to do it.

That hand? Kratos

Why did he shrink all of a sudden? He wasn't that small compared to the multiverse before but now he's tiny compared to it.

tranimefag literally collecting cuck panels

Interesting.....

Spam cuckshit every fucking time someone points out how kyle could lose

every single fucking god damn thread

"Nobody actually cares"

kill yourself

I think Rei is the bestest of girls

Meanwhile MurataGOD delivers.

They don't know I'm playing both sides

Looks too white

Imagine being Indian and autistic. The kylejeet is speedrunning the path to becoming a degenerate rapist.

try to read western comic

it's nothing but cuckshit

Well, it's not my fault. Why is your medium so garbage?

Remember when Catwoman left Batman at the altar and his own fucking father knew?

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Yep. No wonder people stopped reading this garbage.

Only 3-A

Fraud

sure, what you want?

They betrayed Sony...it was a fitting end...

Reminder he's said before he hates this matchup and doesn't care who wins but Simon STILL lives rent free in his head so hard he needs to keep spamming his gay porn and cuckpastas to function
Just how FUARKing powerful is Simon to BTFO brownoids irl?

I can't lie, BLOB Princess eating Bayonetta and Cole wearing Sonic are fucking hilarious.

posts untranslated image

I don't read Japanese retard.

admits it isn't an infinite multiverse

Thank you.

He is grey.

How weird for Asura's Wrath to crossover with DC, if anything I thought Marvel would be first

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im autistic enough to know that he was actually almost in MVC:Infinite
so was Gene, from God Hand. both cut thanks to Basedvel

I meant like white people, not niggers covered in dirty ashes

"infinite dimensions bro"

post says "The TTGL Universe is infinite as stated with numerous higher dimensions"

are you actually, ACTUALLY retarded?

Can't knock off my Emerald Crown.

Kratos moments before getting obliterated by a death punch

Hahahahahahaha

If Solomon Grundy fights any Hulk it should be Red Hulk

Give me some TTGL stuff that's actually translated and you'll find out, lil bro.

Asukafag definitely

Kyle

Booooring, he's like the most sauceless GL.

At the very least the devs were aware of the demand but why would Marvel have a say on Capcom's side of the roster?

A reminder that the guy writing Kyle v Simon is such a casual he thinks Kirby would fit into the Orange Lantern Corp, and that Thanos’ lust for Death is anything resembling actual love.

kwab

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Its not literal, dummy. Its not a poison, its the fact that everyone who gets romantically involved with Yoko dies soon after in battle.
Terminal case of bad luck. No amount of skill or preparation can save you from an authorial kill.

The fuck did Sanji do to get forced into the unwillingly redeemed sociopaths Lantern corps?

to be fair it's pretty funny

DOOM not being Willpower

Courage not being Love

Wario not being Greed

Dumbass

This anon thinks that you only ever own the pants you are wearing, and other pants don't exist anywhere else on the planet.

No, you see, Thor’s hammer hit Jormungander so hard it affected Yggdrasil and sent the World Snake back through time!

Yggdrasil is TOTALLY infinite and NOT a continent-sized tree, and it TOTALLY has infinite durability! So even though Kratos and Thor’s fight does absolutely nothing to Yggdrasil, Kratos and Thor’s fight would have been fracturing time and reality if those darn dirty GoW Devs REALLY knew how strong Kratos was SUPPOSED to be!

And like, the GoW Multiverse that has never been mentioned is like… BEYOND size! Kratos’ universes are so big they make Marvel’s look like chump change!

I dunno enough about Sanji, but sometimes you can be part of the Indigo Tribe by actually just being compassionate, no brainwashing necessary.

Don't blame him
Capeshitters are all fucking idiots like their characters are

Batman has trained himself to fake love, even while he’s sexually involved with a woman for months he will feel nothing
Nothing can beat preptime

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I don't read Japanese retard.

You don't need to read Japanese to look at the visual representation dumbass

FUUUAAAAAAAAARRRRKKKKK BATCHAD WILL FUCK NIA AND YOKO AND NOT FEEL EVEN A DRIP OF ROMANTIC ATTRACTION TO THEM FUUUUUUUCCKKKK

That describes 90% of moids

he psychologically tortured himself into becoming a faggot

This is why nobody reads capeslop.

Sonic beats bowser

Kylebro btw

TRUMPETS PLAYING IN THE DISTANCE

Then why do people give so much of a shit about DC's record against non-Marvel stuff?

CU

Fits.

Michael

Fits

Thanos

He's black, though kudos to Swank for playing into the twisted version of love the star sapphires have always had. I feel that the love corps starting with Hal's psycho girlfriend who was obsessed with getting Hal and Superman to kiss her feet doesn't get talked up enough. I really think the cosmic forces need to examine what "love" is. I think it might be something that took over and corrupted love. It would explain a few things about the nature of reality.

Broly

Fits.

Luke

Not bad, but really he should be compassion. His compassion for Vader is ultimately what saved the galaxy.

Kirby

Retarded. Kirby isn't greedy. That's Dedede. Kirby is a baby. He eats because he's hungry and sleeps because he's tired, not because he's greedy and lazy. Kirby should be white because he's a being completely at peace with his existence.

Sanji

Fits.

Dommy mommy demon

The fuck? Why is she death?

Giorno

No. absolutely not. His power is life themed but his personality is not geared to the full spectrum of existence that white represents. Giorno is a blue because he embodies the kind of optimistic, revolutionary, forward-thinking that hope represents.

Is that Raven?

Is that supposed to be the dumbass UV corps? God they were dumb, especially when infra red and low frequencies would better represent a spectrum that was "always there" but never observed.

shut up

But the only shill Jo got is Absolute.
Jess is getting hew own cartoon and also showed up in several animated projects.
And live-action wise it's going to be the Guy and John show ft. a soon to be retired Hal.

may i have the lime green fla-vor-ice now?

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How the Indigo Tribe is structured has no real bearing on whether or not you're fit to wield compassion.

He would have been so cool pulling off combos with his arms.

They tried shilling her in other ways, most amusingly on candy bars. Given how hurting WB is for cash, I'm not sure Jess' show is still going to be a thing.

Can someone please explain to me how good Batman is at fighting?

He would have been so cool pulling off combos with his arms.

Maybe he can be in another crossover fighter in the future like Marvel vs Jump or something

At like skill? Varies.
Sometimes he’s only 10th/11th most skilled in DC, sometimes he’s only olympian level and gets beat up by regular mooks or big guys
The most skilled he’s ever been was when he beat up Karate Kid (a future dc hero) whose whole schtick is he’s so good at martial arts he can even beat up Kryptonians, and is supposedly the best martial artist to ever live

Not good at all. He can't even dodge pebbles.

This is why BatGOD is the only capeslop people read.

The MAWS guys say the shows aren't that expensive, and it took a long time between our first look at MAWS and it coming out, so the lack of information seems to be on brand there.

Let's be real, first two rows on the character select would be Dragon Ball and the next two would be One Piece.

None of that really tells me how good he is at fighting. Precision, foresight etc what can you tell me about his fighting that doesn't involve too much of his physical stats? Physical stats are obviously counted but there's more to it than that.

Lady (Devil May Cry Franchise) vs either Jill Valentine or Claire Redfield.

what's stupider, the UV Lantern shit or the Grey/Sadness Lantern?

Lol what is this faggy self-insert cringe
At least he's not as autistic and easy to trigger as supercuck.

I’d say nowadays (Rebirth) he’s the most skilled human on the planet rather consistently
Post-Crisis he was always less skilled than Cassandra and Lady Shiva, but ever since rebirth both he and even his dad Flashpoint bats have been regularly beating up the entire batfamily at once, solo

There should definitely be more OP characters in there but tbf Goku, Bejita, and Frieza are at least all that as all 3 have been throughout pretty much every other Jump crossover.

He doesn’t do clever fighting much, it’s usually comicbook “nerve bundle finger strike” shit when he tries to sound smart

Willpower: Should be Doctor Doom but Chosen Undead works well too

Fear: Yeah Michael is the most fitting

Love: Should be Courage

Rage: Broly works but only since they tend to be uncontrollable ragetards. Otherwise Doomguy or Asura would work better but they have a better handle on their rage

Hope: Probably Aang

Greed: Wario or Scrooge c'mon.

Compassion: Ignoring the sociopath forced redemption and focusing on compassion itself; Deku I guess

Death: Mahito

Life: Po

RNE: Who cares what the fuck even is that?

Admittedly, yeah, Shonen Jump games tend to have rosters that are like 70% Big Three + Dragon Ball.
Reminds me of MvC2 just being filled with X-Men and Street Fighter.

Here's Jump Force's roster for comparison.

I guess Kyle proved that even with the life equation, all spics are too stupid to know how to use it. Instead of trying to build a source wall, he should focus on staying behind the Mexican wall....away from us!

Kyle had experience swimming through the ocean to enter illegally but that wetback drowned in his sorrows when he realized he couldn't best Simon!

What was with them this episode? Simon beheading Kyle with a drill like it was a cartel execution felt a little out of character. I was expecting him to just donut him like he did with the Anti Spiral.

Golden age/Silver age

Honestly not that good. His combat training was just "he studied martial arts" and performance wise it wasn't uncommon for mobs of thugs to overpower him and put him in death traps.

Bronze Age

We're in the Enter the Dragon era so martial arts have gotten big. Danny O'Neil makes Batman an expert martial artist with ninja skills vaguely on par with Bronze Tiger, Richard Dragon, and Lady Shiva (Danny O'Neil also created those three characters. He quite liked chop socky flicks).

Modern era

Suffers from being placed firmly below a huge list of fighters including Richard Dragon, Lady Shiva, Cassandra Cain, Black Canary, and Wonder Woman.

tldr

He's mid.

So is Kyle Rayner scalingsman in which all his feats are just scaling to other characters

I don't really like when people try to scale skill like it's numerical power levels and not much more nuanced than that. There's always the "he mastered over 1 hundred martial arts" to lazily slap onto something to say they're a good fighter when you'll never see them use anything from any of those martial arts in their fighting. You'll never see Batman throw a nukite.

This still doesn't tell me much. Say he had to fight Baki, say they weren't that far from each other in terms of physical stats. What approach does Batman take to his fighting?

The Cuck Lantern shit is retarded but will probably get forgotten after a year or so
The UV Corps had to be a major cancer on the rotten shitfest that was Metal and they'll probably return at some point once some other hack decides to bring back Batkek

Kinda yeah. Though really that's DC characters in a nutshell in these things.

HALBROS WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

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Jill is for Aya Brea and Claire is for Regina from Dino Crisis.

BRING ME RAJ THE KEKHOLD SPAMMER!!

UV because at least sadness is an actual emotion. UV is just a retarded hive mind where everyone dresses like Super Friends Sinestro. Sorrow could actually be viable with some clever writing. Like imagine a corp of lost causes and cold cases. Every member is driven by sorrow to accomplish or avenge something, and then they pass their ring on to someone new when they're done because they no longer feel sorrow. It would give them an interesting dynamic. They would be led by someone who's been at it since the dawn of time because his sorrow is for the fall of Adam or something like that and he can't feel peace until the universe is perfect.

It is weird that the current GLC has two children on it now.

UV is just repressed emotions

It’s also an evil hivemind for some reason

Does DC have problems with stoic people?

the difference between Simon's feats and Kyle's feats is pretty clear-cut. Simon does damn near everything himself, while Kyle relies almost entirely on feats from other lanterns. Kyle seems like a cool character and his creativity is a charming detail, but he's just DC's potential man.

The problem is that a lot of DC fights are visually drawn by someone who has no idea what a fight looks like so you see a lot of high kicks, backflips and jumps, maybe some part where they knifehand and then go for le nerve strike.
That's why for the most part all you can really rely on is statements when discussing this kind of thing. It does make it very frustrating when trying to determine skill comparisons outside of DC if you're talking about two "skilled" fighters.

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Abel, the first sorrow landern

Aizawa

not All Might

What?

INFINITY BIG BANG STOOOOOOOOOOORM!!!!

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erm gorilla bros I though we had the edge in boxing...?

Not actually infinite btw
Smaller than the big bang Kyle held back by himself btw

Sorrow Lantern got retconned. It isn't a Lantern type. Instead Nathan Broome is just the Sorrow and he and Starbreaker are trying to make a Sorrow Lantern Battery to force it into existence and destroy the emotional spectrum.

Bigger than Kyle’s big bang btw

Bejita bros...

It would be pretty funny if giving GL Kyle all those feats fucks him over because it means that the emotional spectrum doesn't increase in power at the same exponential rate spiral power does

Kyle can go from the base form vague level of infinite multiversal to vaguely stronger levels of infinite multiversal

uhh Simon went from moon level to some vague level of infinite multiversal in a couple of seconds

Depression makes you an evil Lantern and it’s also incompatable with the emotional spectrum for some reason

BURN IN THE EVERLASTING HELLFIRE OF CREATION
BE UTTERLY ANNIHILATED
DOWN TO THE VERY LAST SCRAP OF DNA

Post it

Death Battle confirmed the big bang Kyle held back was 12.3D

They'll probably just use the 12x modifier which would be worse for Kyle.

Kyle went from 12x stronger as a GL compared to WL....

but Simon went from being moon level to 179739928191819x stronger in 10 seconds when pushed

Post it then

I don't wanna, watch the preview

The question is less about how skilled Batman is in a fight and more about HOW he fights. They have to sell movements that look like something no regular guy could pull off of course. How one fights could be a factor into who wins a fight, matchups are a thing too. It's not like Pokemon of course but it's still a factor. If all you have to go off of is statements there then you're really left in the mud because it's not like power levels where a statement is all you need a lot of the time to know how hard a guy can hit or get hit.

Wow so it's

11D+ Big Bang that spawns multiple galaxies off instantly, expanding MFTL

Vs

12.3 "Big Bang" with the power of a few galaxies

big bang

can't even eclipse the galaxies around them

Oh and don't say they're universes because that's a load of bull. Unless of course you admit this the same.

DNA

Didn't go down below quarks

sub 4d galaxy blast

KWABAROO

12.3D

still no idea what the fuck you mean

11d

galaxies even though the ones around them are supposedly other universes

YOU FUCKING IDIOT WE HAD THEM GOING FOR THE PAST FEW THREADS NOW THEY KNOW WE'RE FRAUDS

>can't even eclipse the galaxies around them

It's a concentrated energy beam faggot

Kylecucks.......GODvel has fucked us over again.

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illuminates nothing

JOB battle

Aren't comics inherently gimped at choreography? You have all those images of Saiyan Saga paneling that DBZ scholars constantly dissect that capeslop will NEVER come close.

How the fuck is a Big Bang just an energy beam. That's not how a Big Bang works.

shut up

Well, that's why I specified two "skilled" combatants. Even though Batman's visual skill feats are hilariously bad, I would still say he's more skilled than someone like Spider-Man who tends to be not depicted as well versed in martial arts. I do still think "knowing dozens of martial arts and being considered a top tier fighter by other people who are similar" means something.

But yes, put Batman in a room with any high tier Kengan or Baki or whatever fighter with similar stats and realistically he should just be eating shit because he has no idea how to grapple or strike well and often just flails around like a retard. Because this is powerscaling where a man who blows up stars is weaker than a man who can't break a mountain, though, Batman would probably solo all of Kengan no sweat.

No u

knowing dozens of martial arts

means the writer is fucking stupid

>Didn't go down below quarks

It says Lazengann was breaking down on a quantum level seconds later, DNA was probably chosen for thematic reasons

>galaxies even though the ones around them are supposedly other universes

I never said they were supposed to be universes.

he never quite mastered all of its potential

HMMMMMM THAT SOUNDS SO FAMILIAR

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Depends on the artist.
DBZ was a comedy fighting manga, and initially a karate/Kung-Fu fighting one at that. Toriyama KNEW how to draw a good brawl between two fairly normal guys, and so he excelled at doing it even as the stakes progressed because he knew the fundamentals of a good fight.
Jack Kirby was also great at drawing fights.
You can tell the movement between panels in pic related, and that helps the whole fight flow so much better.
A lot of other comic artists don’t do that, so a lot of those fights lack the weight for an effective fight.

How the fuck is a Big Bang just an energy beam. That's not how a Big Bang works.

That's how it's being used. A Big Bang Energy Beam on a higher dimensional scale, that is effectively the Infinity Big Bang Storm

the anti spiral clashed two galaxies into each other, made a ball of massive energy stated to be on par with the BIRTH OF THE UNIVERSE, and threw it at TTGL.

Knowing many martial arts doesn't really translate to how well you do in a fight. If you can memorize it all that's great but you're not actually going to use the principles from each of those martial arts are you? Even if you could it'd be a pain to have to decide what move to do at any given instant unless your mind is running like a supercomputer, even Kengan's Kanoh Agito had that as a problem later on. Tons of options is great but getting stuck on so many choices is more trouble than it's worth. How many of those martial arts is he really going to be doing at any given time? No one cares if you know both Krav Maga (pussy shit) and Vovinam, what principles are you sticking to?

All the debates for this episode have just been “Infinite Dimensionality Universe Sizes are really worth 254 quintejillion Regular Universes” and other VSBW-tier brainrot of people regurgitating physics and concepts they literally have no actual grasp on

Remember when planet-level was still impressive on this show? And discussion was about power interactions and not, “well MY fav exists in a bigger universe than yours, so I win haha” bullshit?
I have no idea what autists finds this kind of discussion enjoyable…

But the DC universe is BIGGER so it doesnt matter. That means everything is bigger. Kyle is actally a million million billion billion trillion lightyears tall compared to a standard sized universe. Aka ttgl's universe.

*universes
but yeah. Not as big as the thing Kyle stopped.

Actually, since Green Lanterns have to create a universe they then need to escape from when they are chosen, that really, REALLY fucks over the idea of the Lantern growth rate

two universes not galaxies, commentary from the director iirc confirmed the "galaxies" we saw were actually universes.

I'm aware that knowing 122 styles is retarded, merely just bringing it to say Batman would be more skilled than someone that literally has zero martial arts skill, even if only in a narrative sense

We really need to find out what retarded DBZ dumbass got that idea popular.
This shit was only a thing because TARDkufags thought that shit would one-up him over Superman, just to get their shit pushed in when DCfags easily matched and surpassed that.
And now it’s just brain rotted everything…

All the actual good comic artists are long dead.

New thread

Not as big as the thing Kyle stopped.

See this is my fucking issue, dimensional tiering aside, the Big Bang Kyle stopped was created by entire galaxies, while the Big Bang Simon had to face was an actual "creation of the universe" Big Bang. Obviously one is more powerful than the other

Wait until we hit Page 10 before a new thread, fuckwit.

This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Close second one is whatever capeshit writers make when it comes to the multiverse.

yeah we obviously see multiple galaxies BEING BORN

sonicfag jobs to basic arithmetic

FFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCKKK

Eh, we're a Wild West era of these threads. Fastest on the draw dictates the future.

4 threads in less than a day

Jannies must be on vacation

What are the most iconic capecomic pages of all time pre-internet, or at least pre-2000 without internet memes?

I think SImon's rate of growth is going to be what does Kyle in, yes Kyle is stronger at peak, but Simon went to utterly INSANE growth in fighting the Anti Spiral. Going from a moon level mech with Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann to multiversal within a period of one fight, being trapped in a multiversal labyrinth for an admittedly ambiguous time period then another fight and going even higher level of multiversal. I think its safe to say though all this happened within a day as theres nothing to imply it was longer.
think exponential growth compared to logarithmic. Simon's ability to grow in power is fucking insane.

I will say that though Im bias for Simon, Kyle's stuff is fucking nuts and really it absolutely depends on how cosmology tiers are viewed in this fight and if White Lantern with Life Equation allows Kyle to put down Simon BEFORE this growth can reach his level and eclipse it.

Yes Simon can absorb the energy of the lantern rings as we saw with his fights against various Mugann but Kyle using his own willpower might be able to resist it to sorta tug of war him.

Id say you must be fun at parties but you clearly dont go to them.

Parties are overrated mostly anyway.

Yes Simon can absorb the energy of the lantern rings as we saw with his fights against various Mugann but Kyle using his own willpower might be able to resist it to sorta tug of war him.

The GL resistance to draining feats weren't that good if I recall.

Going from a moon level mech with Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann

Arc already had the power to punch through spacetime and send you to the end of the universe. SGGL was much, much stronger than that with it being able to attack at all points in spacetime and holding the power of a sub-universe inside of it.

Fights also just don't have narrative quality to them anymore

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my bad I misrembered Super Galaxy's level.

these days yeah/

anger gone now

kek

Asta (black clover) beats Gojo and the author of that garbage is as retarded as his MC

It worked better before Pak's awful sanctimony and retcons about how noble Hulk is

Who's Pak and what's the retcon?

Makima

Death

I already knew these niggers had no idea about CSM but this is beyond ridiculous.
Now I need to see Simon fodderize the other guy just to make this ape mad

Greg Pak. He wrote Planet Hulk, World War Hulk, the Chaos War and created characters like Amadeus Cho who partly exists to be a Hulk apologist. He made it so no one was ever killed during Hulk's rampages because he went out of his way to calculate collateral damage and that even at his most manic as savage Hulk he was always holding back his true power

That's pretty fucking lame. A Jekyll and Hyde story where Hyde never actually does anything bad? Loses a lot of weight and tragedy.

I agree. And powerscaling-wise, he wanted Hulk to straight up one shot Sentry at the end of World War Hulk. No fight or nothing, but the editor said no

muh grows as he fights

Didn't help Goku/Vegeta/Black/Trunks/etc., didn't help Asura
Death Battle clearly doesn't put much stock in stuff like that if you're not someone like Doomsday.

Simon is pretty much more bullshit than Doomsday

Goku and Bejita don't grow as they fight in the same way as someone like Simon does. Goku and Bejita never grow in ways that matter against their foes unless they pull a new transformation.

If they rank Kyle as starting at a higher level than Simon I don't think they're going to rule that Simon can catch up in time. Increasing spiral power is only going to be a factor if Kyle doesn't start with an overwhelming head start.

Even then, they gave Doomsday the stat advantage at base anyway.
And Asura had a similar power growth anyway, but they still capped him at where they thought the final boss landed at rather than making his transformations even stronger.
It's explicitly canon in Dragon Ball that Saiyans grow in power as they get into intense fights, Broly has a more intense variations, since he's a freak of nature, but that's always been a thing, even outside of Zenkai boosts.

I know that. I'm saying Goku and Bejita's aren't very special compared to Simon's growth.

Again name me a time a character on the show actually won due to that kind of battle evolution without already being stronger on the base level.
Asura, a character who constantly grows to the point his base form beat the strongest form of his final boss in base after it BTFO of his super form lost to LOREtos, a character with a static power level.

They never really took into account Asura's strength gain in that episode or the fact Destructor wasn't his strongest form. Just sort of treated the Chakravartin idol explosion as his limit.

And that'll be how they'll go with Simon as well.

planck length context

Any developments from that?
Some anon in a previous thread said:

It is worth mentioning that the Planck to Centimeter thing only happened in a bizarre set of circumstances where the laws of physics had been totally broken down by an entity called the Aberration.

The scene is really weird because they apparently get flung into the future, but they reach the present by increasing the size of a Planck Length because somehow that allows them control over reality even though increasing the size of a Planck Length would be controlling reality.

And what's more is that the plan shouldn't have even worked because they were explicitly shunted into a future where the laws of physics had been completely broken down, so whatever cause and effect relationship that Kyle and Anarky used to control reality shouldn't have worked since it relied on that standard reality assumption.

Anyways, issue number is Anarky Vol 2 Issue 3.

It's not like he posted scans though, but it sounds like they just tinkered with universal constants just to do it for a secondary purpose, not because it made anything bigger relative to its surroundings.
Presumably if you change the plank length it would affect everything in the universe and nothing about the sizes of things would appear to change.

I think he was part of a planned DLC with Apollo justice, Kamala Khan, Star Lord, Ant Man (hence why he's missing from hawkeye's Level 3), Gill, Vergil and Lady

Gene was meant for 3. got mixed up.

also Fun fact: Shadow the hedgehog, Chun Li and Sub zero were almost in that.

I don't think they're going to rule that Simon can catch up in time.

Well that's weird because the Anti Spiral grew to STTGL size when Simon absorbed that drill. Unless that's different.

If I looked for myself it wasn't actually that hard to find with Google.
And yeah, it's about as much of a random plot device as that guy said.
They just do it because that will magically bring them back to the present from a future without any physical laws, because an AI said it would, without any particular reasoning. They don't do it to make anything bigger.

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They just do it because that will magically bring them back to the present from a future without any physical laws, because an AI said it would, without any particular reasoning. They don't do it to make anything bigger.

What an odd thing to do