The Penguin Season Finale - "Great or Little Thing" Gamethread

tries to give the Oz speech

immediately btfo

vic my guy I'm sorry

oh fuck Oz got got

Oz goes to city hall

everyone else is coming to kill him to give to Sofia

Oz is still trying to get the city councilman in his pocket as a hero

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noooooooo its not out in the uk yet :(

FUCK NO

I keep forgetting Ozwald is a piece of shit.

Penguin's mother knew he killed his brothers and asked Rex to kill her son, but didn't go through with it

Vic convinces the gangs subordinates to kill their heads and work for Penguin

Sofia kidnaps Penguin and his mother. His mother admits she always knew and hated him, stabs him with a bottle.

Penguin's mother has a stroke after stabbing him, is more or less a vegetable.

Penguin puts Sofia back in Arkham

Selina writes a letter to Sofia saying they're half-sisters.

Penguin strangles Vic to avoid having any family left, takes his money and throws his license away leaving him just a body in the park

Keeps his mother locked in a room facing a window

Ends with Eve dressing like his mother and Oz gets his final dance with "mom" saying how proud she is

The Batman starts by showing just how terrified every criminal is when they see the Bat Signal, jumping at their own shadows

The Penguin ends with the Bat Signal not even being an after thought now that he feels the city belongs to him

Pure Kino

Also RIP Vic

I'll be watching you..

Kino, didn't think they'd get Pattinson

FUCKING PURE KINO

Sofia is so fucking hot.

They reduced The Penguin to a retard who kills uncontrollably and stumbles into being a kingpin.

Do you think Oz knows Eve gave his hideout up to Sofia? He has to, right? She was the only person he told where he was going to hide.

This. My one specific headcanon Penguin is the only real one, all others are wrong.

and stumbles into being a kingpin.

What? He kept hatching plan after plan to get the top, and even after failing or being thwarted he just kept trying and climbing a little higher each time. He didn't just randomly end up on top at the end.

Having Cyborg as Penguin's sidekick was a really weird choice, but I think Gunn will be able to pay it off

Cyborg?
You must be blind, they just race swapped Mr. Freeze

Yeah he did. Randomly finds an underground drug warehouse. Randomly turns two bags of mushrooms into an empire. Randomly gets people to be loyal to him when he is constantly selling people out. Randomly has his bum leg make him able to do ninja flips whenever he’s inches away from certain death. Randomly has Sal Marone die from a heart attack mid fight. I can keep going if you’d like

It’s another half assed attempt to “ground” a character by having him be an edgy cartoon character instead of an actual cartoon character.

Oz, there's someone you're gonna wanna meet. He's a real joker.

Seriously?

Anon Babble on pure meltdown and hates it

Anon Babble loves it

huh

i laughed so hard when they introduced Dr. Fries and he said "ice to meet you!"

i'm so glad i was right about the mom-fucker vibes, they went from "i'm a good boy" to "I really want to be married to my mom"

That light isn't for the Penguin, it's for us

It's a warning

you dumb asshole, the whole point is that Oz's gift is taking advantage of opportunities. That's the thing that makes him successful, he didn't "randomly turn two bags of mushrooms into an empire", it was the result of a shitload of hard work, attention, connections, making deals, that's his whole THING. You'd have to be blind, deaf, and dumb to miss it.

I'll count every single day until I get outta here again. You got a Calender, Man?

Alright come on

I admit I cringed when one of the guards complained about all the "poison ivy" on the side of the facility and looked dead into the camera and it held on him for a second too long? I felt like that was too much, but then again I'm not a director, so what do I know.

Should have been Cobblepot

I agree, or work that into the plot. Like if he found out his mom was part of the Cobblepot family but she ran off and changed her name to be with a mobster? I dunno, I'm not a professional writer, but something about that, if you're going to change it change it for a reason, and we haven't gotten one. Kinda feels like the whole MGS5 Quiet "you'll be sorry when you learn why we made this this way" and then there's no reason

Had a real Joker by Azzarrello vibe since episode 1, and I am not sure if I feel good or disappointed that I was right.

Top hat, umbrella, and cigarette holder in last scene.

Oz doesn't use any of them.

He still looked pretty dapper.

Really? Why they hate it?

I wish the last scene was just a shot-for-shot adaptation of this moment, wouldn't even need Pattinson

Series became shit since episode 4

or something like that

no lolis

Penguin doesn't get raped

ah, I knew it had to end with tragedy. still stings tho.

is this at all required viewing for da batman 2

Or that he himself shortens it to "Cobb" just like he does with "Oz" because he thinks his full legal name sounds like the name a little pussy-boy would have. And he ain't no friggen little pussy-boy.

many viewers are not ready to hear this, but Vic got exactly what he fucking deserved
the Penguin isn't a misunderstood anti-hero, he's a villain hiding behind empty rhetoric, a power-hungry psychopath with issues
Vic was a chump who fell hook line and sinker for his bullshit and got the true Gotham City henchman experience: getting killed by your own boss

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Not really. Even if Penguin is a major villain in it, you already know the basic gist of his backstory.

I doubt it. The Batman's ending already implied that Penguin was going to take over Falcone's operation and nothing really substantial is left hanging except for Sophia, but her story's pretty much done anyway.

you're not wrong, he told Vic he could leave, and he chose to come back and ride the tiger. you don't get to act surprised when it eventually turns on you.

If you want to go from "I want Batman to punch Penguin" to "I really REALLY want Batman to punch Penguin" yes

Sofia ruined the show for them. They convinced themselves that she'd take over the show and Penguin would end up Surf Dracula'd.

I did not expect to like this show as much as I did tbqh.
The "dark and mature" capeshit series that's totally not capeshit has been tried before, but this is the first time I actually enjoyed it.
Especially if you compare it to something like Jessica Jones which desperately tried to be grimdark but only ended up being boring and cartoony.

this

Oz's superpower is that he can talk his way out of any situation that he got painted into. half the time it's himself doing it, but he always finds a way. he's like a bad penny, like he said, he's just a hard working hustler. his brain never fucking stops weasling. it's based

Does Penguin ever get a gun umbrella?

That's because Jessica Jones is still MCUslop at its core, Penguin is barely capeshit since it's basically a diet Sopranos but the Sopranos is one of the best so it being even a fraction of that is still pretty good.

exactly! the reason he seems so fucking capable is because he fucking *is*. you put any normal person in those circumstances, they end up dead. You all saw how that kind of environment treated victor. Oz is a fucking supervillain for a reason and I won't tolerate people disrespecting one of my favorite villains! Him and doc ock, man, just normal fucking guys and not mutant monsters or superpowered freaks, just normal motherfucking men taking what they want when the world refuses to look at them