i did not get this.
so flash has a nervous breakdown and that causes him to jizz speedforce all over other heroes and that kills them?
why did he have a breakdown?
why did he frame booster and harley?
why did he travel forward in time to meet future self. was the future self trying to kill him or vice versa?
nothing about this made sense. can a smarter anon explain the story to me?
can a smarter anon explain the story to me?
No, because you’d have to be autistic to understand Tom king’s magnum opus.
Bro don't post that, I just ate.
so, no one else gets it either? why was this so hyped up?
The story is that King came up with the rough plot and Didio told him to make Wally the culprit.
First you gotta understand this story got some last minute rewrites apparently.
I like that it got completely janny'd out of existence because it was so abhorrent. The Empty Hand ate his first L that day.
To help you out I'm gonna use a rating from 1 to 10 to help explain what Tom King got wrong.
so flash has a nervous breakdown and that causes him to jizz speedforce all over other heroes and that kills them?
5/10. even though The Flash's superpowers have shown to be influenced from their emotional state and could explain how Wally could be a dangee to himself and others this is more of an example of King needing an impossible murder weapon to explain away the impossible crime.
why did he have a breakdown?
7/10. Wally's mental breakdown here is entirely ad hoc existing only to put Wally at the scene of the crime.
why did he frame booster and harley?
10/10. This straightup does not make sense and only exists as an obvious red herring.
why did he travel forward in time to meet future self. was the future self trying to kill him or vice versa?
9/10. Tom King seems to love ambiguous endings like this and probably thinks leaving it as an open ended question encourages the audience to question their preconceptions of the narrative.
Tom King is a mentally ill perverted piece of shit.
1. Good art
2. King is one of those writers that's good at tricking people he's a good writer until they actually read anything he's written
I don't think a "crisis" written by King would have any hype anymore. People have figured him out.
I liked how they retconned Wally's entirely arbitrary breakdown and attempted coverup to actually be Professor Zoom subconsciously convincing him to do it just for the hell of it
Then they retconned the speed force freaking out as Savitar escaping the speed force, and then retconned that everyone is actually still alive but got sucked into the speedforce
That's how most of these filler events work. The writer has a high concept, the editor tells them which characters are getting the push, then everyone is stuck trying to make it work.
With good editors it generally works out well. With shit editors... well... look at DC comics in the 00s and the 10s.
so flash has a nervous breakdown and that causes him to jizz speedforce all over other heroes and that kills them?
why did he have a breakdown?
Flash struggled with the idea of Sanctuary and thought it might be a fake thing to placate him (other heroes going "no bro, we get it, we get it, we've all been there") so to understand whether or not he was alone or other people got it, he attempted to experience everything that every hero who had used the facility had ever gone through in the span of a moment, only to find that watching every traumatic confession a thousand other people had gone through was actually way too much, lost control of the speedforce and killed everyone nearby who had come out to see what was wrong.
why did he frame booster and harley?
why did he travel forward in time to meet future self. was the future self trying to kill him or vice versa?
He killed himself to punish himself and try to atone for what he had done, he framed the two survivors because after killing himself in the future, he needed time before Batman and the rest of the JL came to arrest him to try and make up for the wrong himself (by killing himself and leaking the Sanctuary situation to Lois). The idea was that he'd loop, kill himself in the future, atone for a few days and then die at his own hands--but instead he was interrupted and convinced that more violence and death wasn't going to solve the problem, so ultimately he was arrested and a cloned body was used to fill the paradoxical missing slot.
Who should be the therapists for our superclinic?
Oh I know, how about autistic robots that don't understand why humans want their families?
just reading this is pissing me off. look at this goofy comic book science explanation, and it really patted itself on the back for being as deep as Watchmen.
The corporate push behind tom King is really irritating. It makes sense that his mom was a WB exec in the 90s and she's using her networking clout to get her son plum opportunities. The whole WB/DC machine behind Tom King is comprised of people who don't actually like comics but are executives who want to keep bringing in new profits with more "content" like Watchmen... and they think what Tom King is doing is that.
And Didio's weird silver age boomer asshurt about Bronze Age/90s sidekicks and legacy characters allowed him to get a few good petty shots in over fictional characters
Tom King being involved with James Gunn's movieverse is the red flag about Gunn's movies. Gunn, unfortunately, got tricked by the great art in standalone graphic novels like Supergirl and Human Target and he's been tricked into thinking they could be the storyboards for a good standalone cape movie
Pretty much everyone hated it
why did he have a breakdown?
why did he frame booster and harley?
It doesn't matter what the actual reason was, it was a blatant attempt to character assassinate Wally, and they retconned it less than a year after the fact by making Reverse Flash the cause of every stupid decision the Flash family has ever made, like the speedforce war.
Why did Bane hang the Bat family with nooses but then they were fine but it wasn't really them or was it
They should have made the event all about starting the therapy thing, not ending it in a poorly thought out mass shooting parallel. If the event was just "people are getting burnt out from superheroics" it would be great, but an obsessive need for pointless spectacle doomed it.
Thank God Adam's retconned why this happened in his Flash run.
Now it's a side effect of Savitar fucking with the Speed Force. Iirc, Adam's contrived the situation so that Roy is making a sacrifice, and Wally doesn't really have any hand in it now.
I bought this book because it was so bad. Goes on my Shelf of Shame, right by Trouble and Dark Knights: Metal
This
You gave money to DC for making a bad book? Are you retarded?
King is one of those writers that's good at tricking people he's a good writer until they actually read anything he's written
His Batman run was a huge hit...among critics who loved that he was basically sticking it to Batman for being a white rich manchild and Mary Sue-ing Catwoman. This brought in some new readers curious about the hype but all he was doing was writing a Batman book for people who literally hated Batman who were going to leave when he left but not before he salted the earth.
I've had plenty of issues with Bob Harras BUT I give him credit for seeing the damage King was doing and kicking him off the title.
Pretty much yeah, it's part Wally part Roy - not that it matters who did it, Roy came back as a Black Lantern for a bit then the others were revived via Speed Force shenanigans
nothing about this made sense
It's cape shit. It's not supposed to make sense.
None of that matters. What matters is his writing ability, which is shit tier.
They couldn't have a twist where it turns out it was Walter West who did it?
Because Didio and King didn't think that far ahead
Tom King.
Critics and redditors absolutely fucking love Tom King, for reasons incomprehensible to anyone with a functioning brain.
Tom King being involved with James Gunn's movieverse is the red flag about Gunn's movies. Gunn, unfortunately, got tricked by the great art in standalone graphic novels like Supergirl and Human Target and he's been tricked into thinking they could be the storyboards for a good standalone cape movie
Exactly my thoughts too.
Any interest I had in the new DCCU died when I saw that King had been made one of the architects of the new films.
event was so shit and damaged Wally so much that they eventually retconned him to be innocent of everything
Nearly everyone had a fat ass even the guys.
Op here, thanks for the detailed answer
but this part:
to try and make up for the wrong himself (by killing himself and leaking the Sanctuary situation to Lois). The idea was that he'd loop, kill himself in the future, atone for a few days and then die at his own hands
still isn't making much sense, but i see now that is due to it being a poor idea, poorly executed.
Tom King being involved with James Gunn's movieverse
why did u tell us this? holidays: ruined
1. Good art
Mann was good at one time but this was around the time he started getting lazy and began tracing 3D models. You can always tell when artists do that because the coloring is always really weird (maybe to try and hide the obvious tracing?) and the facial expressions completely unnatural and wooden.
It gets even better.
King is co-writing the Lanterns show with Damon Lindelof. It's a match made in hell.
The best part about Heroes In Crisis was Batgirl showing off her hole.
I wanna see if they cancel each others' bad habits out or worsen them
I'd love to believe that two wrongs can make a right, but let's be honest: those two hacks will only encourage each other's worst writing habits.
No Identity Crisis? You'd think HiC and that would make a perfect pairing.
I always believed that they should just split those two off into its own self-contained universe, call it like the Trauma Universe or something like that