Why don't kids care about cartoons anymore?

Why don't kids care about cartoons anymore?

Kids are Gen Alpha.

Instead of TVs, they're getting stuck in front of youtube on ipads nowadays. Algorithm does the rest. Let me tell you, my kids won't see a touch screen until they're fucking fourteen.

It would help if Hollywood actually gave a shit about what they were making. Disney biffed their Star Wars trilogy and their 100 year anniversary film because they were so focused on making money that they forgot they needed to actually tell stories.

They need more diversity representation.

When I was a kid the world made sense. It was a clear pecking order. Serious movies at the top, followed by comedies, followed by sitcoms, followed by Reality TV, followed by cartoons, followed by comic books at the bottom. Now, all of those are irrelevant thanks to Breaking Bad setting and example and Rick & Morty poisoning comedy and the only media format that matters is drama series.

Nothing has ever made sense

Am I a zoomer? I am watching streamers right now.

When I was a kid the world made sense.

How can Hollywood compete with these compelling content creators kids watch?

Pippa is based tho

The production pipeline for corporate entertainment is too slow, too expensive, and too bottlenecked by some absolutely retarded executives. Consider you really aren't giving up that much quality to move from whatever the hell is on Disney/Nick/TTGO Network to youtube or tiktok, and any millennial parent or zoomer cousin can make that experience ad-free as well.

When I was a kid the world made sense.

Children's entertainment is cratering because it's a bunch of nerds following rules made up by Joe Murray in 1993 like it's the Bible.

Motherfucker that article isn't about cartoons. It's not even saying they're rejecting cartoons. It's about kids getting their entertainment on phones done by content creators making stuff they prefer over Hollywood shit.

It's about kids getting their entertainment on phones done by content creators making stuff they prefer over Hollywood shit

Where do you think tv cartoons are produced anon? (outside of the outsourcing)

Joe Murray in 1993 like it's the Bible.

what

They watch cartoons. It is just either brain rot animations or stuff like Digital Circus.

Anon Babble needs to make an original series

capitalism basically

Count how many new series there are, and how many actually have any creative intent or advertisement behind them. Now, look at online indie creators skipping the mainstream process and going straight to consumers to bring media to life. The traditional avenues are struggling beneath the weight of bulging production budgets and corporate expectations

i grew up with all kinds of cartoons made decades before i was born still on tv, that's pretty much unheard of anymore

probably not the only factor, but an important one i'd wager

The only things Anon Babble has made are Loss, Horses and that one letter in America.
Anon Babble couldn't make content even if it was threated by rape.

Because they never cared in the first place. TV has never been anything other than a babysitting tool.

Anon Babble is already full of failed creators, a bubbling hive of jealousy and envy.

Because they have no reason to. It's a combination of cartoons being largely TERRIBLE for the past 20+ years and also cartoons failing to capture kids' attention with "cool" factor. Those old toy-based shows like He-Man, GI Joe, and Transformers get a lot of slack from cartoon autists for being "toy commercials", but kids thought those shows were cool. Shows with action, shows with guns, shows with ninjas, shows with cool cars, shows was monsters and dinosaurs, these are the things that young kids like. Not all these lame slice-of-life cartoons with badly drawn children and not these touchy-feely "let's cry our problems away" shit that they've been peddling either. If I were a kid I sure as hell wouldn't watch any of these new cartoons.

It would help if Hollywood actually gave a shit about what they were making. Disney biffed their Star Wars trilogy and their 100 year anniversary film because they were so focused on insincere virtue signaling that they forgot they needed to actually tell stories.

Fixed. They also forgot to also make money in the process as well.

NOOOOO IT'S VIRTUE SIGNALING

You know why they do that, retard? Because they want to make money. Shut the fuck up.

Watching videos online satisfies the kids' need for mischief. Back in the day children would go outside to do stupid shit, now they can just watch someone else do it for views.

Here's where this talk always blurs.
What people say is the reason existed back in the 2000s, and we still had all that. There were PS2s and Wiis. There was YouTube and Twitter and Facebook and Myspace, and I remember everyone using them. There was still very available anime like Naruto, One Piece and Pokemon.
Yet animation not only had ratings, it had record ratings.
I honestly think what happened is after 2010 cartoons abandoned core demographics after Steven Universe and My Little Pony's success on places like Anon Babble that had them chase an audience that largely did not exist. The last cartoons we got that targeted boys, including just white boys, was in the early 2010s. Afterwards they targeted online terminals and brown females, both of which were very infrequent animation watchers. That caused a cascade where boys abandoned animation entirely for the other mediums that were still there, which caused increased cable cord cutting, which caused companies to have less budget and only focus on the online terminal and brown girl shows, which furthered this cycle.
I'm really not surprised to see this is how it ended. They abandoned their core and don't make any new content anymore.

make every cartoon gay and lame therapy for the writers

surprised pikachu face when kids dont watch them

I don't blame them at fucking all, what is there to get excited about?

There's the Atlantis special of We Baby Bears, the premiere of Iyanu, season 9 of Teen Titans Go, Nickelodeon is launching Wylde Pak. Tons of stuff!

These poor kids.

Quality is one thing but studios really forgot to engineer a few Fandom franchises. That's the real bread and butter.

Yep. TADC just walked right up and took it.

And executives wonder why Skibidi Toilet is destroying them.

Can you engineer a western fandom franchise anchor and abandon straight white men? AT had to change to get to where it was. Maybe SU did it, but even that show had a little cheesecake.

it only makes sense as a kid because your ignorant of/unable to comprehend the fact its a lot more complicated

Ehh, I wouldn’t say it’s about quality. Content creators don’t make quality, they make slop as frequent as possible to get the most audience and ad revenue. Let’s not sit here and pretend Skidibi Toilet, Mr Beast, Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, and TikTok shit is this beacon of creative quality
But what’s important with those is they target boys. They succeed because it feels like content geared to them they can enjoy

"Has appeal" is higher quality then most of what the industry is putting out.
I'd also give Skibidi more credit.

The quality absolutely matters.

Somewhat, but the other factors are much more contributory. Masses still slurp up absolute slop.

Not interactive enough. No chat, no host talking to you and saying your name. No people playing games you know with you.

Same reason videogames dominated passive media like TV and movies. Soon AI chatbots will be your kids best friends and streamers will be made irrelevant too. Custom best friends who can be programmed to be harmless and nice? Nigga that shit is what made Pokemon the largest media property on the planet. A friend that cannot leave you or die. Streamers are done soon too. Don't worry though we'll all be too plasticbrained to care soon.

The difference is the slop they slurp up succeeds at something instead of nothing.

Anime and Manga is more popular than ever.
Anon Babble will cope from every angle but the truth is today's cartoons are gutter trash.

Kids don't like calarts yuribait shit.

I was not attracted to girls my own age as a kid so I don't see what I would have gotten out of these cutesy shipping bait calarts shows with primarily child casts.

Anime and Manga is more popular than ever.

It's not kids that are watching it. It's sad adults. That's why every show is an isekai that promises if you die you can be reborn in a land where cute girls actually want to talk to you.

Adults don't give a shit about stuff like Solo Leveling, it's literally just kids.

They can see whatever kind of content they like, whenever they want it, with no restrictions on accessing it, consumed on any device and in almost any format. Also, many creators seem able to establish a relationship with of sorts with the viewer, acting as a parasocial bond for children.

You want to know the real redpill? It's that 10-14 year old boys like the coolest shit on the earth and that's where it peaks.

Dinosaurs, Dragons, Trucks, Monsters, Aliens, Ninjas, Swords, Machine Guns, Sexy Girls, Blood, Detectives, Goblins, Wizards, Barbarians, Ghosts, Laserguns, Super spies, Sharks, Giant robots, saving the princess, fist fights, edgelords, moral bastions, racecars, etc.

Second best shit is what little girls like:

Castles, horses, pretty colors, handsome princes, flowers, outfits, drama, romance, cute pets.

You know who has boring fucking taste? Adults, especially pretentious nepobaby californian man/womanchildren who are embarrassed to be associated with kids who like cooler shit than they do, so they go in and write shit that appeals to boring shit adults are into (muh social message, muh politics, muh representation, muh breaking the glass ceiling.) Fuck that shit. Cartoons (and comics and video games and popcorn movies) were better when they were created by people who kept in touch with their based kid self and can elevate it just a tad without enshittifying it with their adult stupidity.

bootlicking capitalism by rushing production to meet a release deadline is because of the woke

genuinely brain diseased

kek i was looking for this the other day

And worst of all is they parasitize shit that is already kid-cool and make it gay and lame. Looking at you, Star Wars.

everything boomer executives fed me when i was 12 is exactly representative of what modern boys like

Why would I pay for limited media made by rich weirdos, when I can watch working- and middle-class weirdos make almost anything I can imagine for free?

COPE
Adventureshit, King Arthur shit, Sherlock Holmes shit, Pulpshit, doesn't matter, what kids like rules, and that's across long stretches of time.

Kinda seems like it, yeah.

how's the eastern market doing in their efforts to capture this demographic?

Only mentally ill millennials do, and then they wonder why men don't even wanna be around them. They're just gonna rot in their rooms. also what's with all the women in the industry with diaper fetishes, you can go on a bunch of their socials and see they follow some abdl accounts

Disney acquires SW to sell it to boys

they're now twisting and mangling it to sell it to girls

Utterly baffling decision.

Good but they put most their toy commercial shoes straight onto YouTube.

Conan the Barbarian/The Thing/The Terminator/Blade Runner/Alien/Gladiator/Robocop, it's all just stuff kids think is cool but Rated R

At last I truly see.

to be fair those boomers did the market research with real kids, not 20 something snarky Leddit fag-shippers

Was focus testing ever bad? It's a lot fucking better than letting some Millennial woman with 200 different mental illnesses making the decision.

It was unironically better when it was less understood, and the people doing the testing weren't just deliberately skewunh things for the sake of getting results that confirm their existing biases. But now that's all it's used for.

The only issue with focus testing is a negative result would be overweighted. So if a kid got too scared at a spooky part or didn't like something that was too different they would just shut down. Good executives would know when there was a "there" there. Bad ones would just be too risk averse.
Powerpuff Girls famously flopped in its first test screenining due to the girl's designs. Craig rushed to change them, and the executive told him no, a strong reaction is a good reaction when it comes to kids.

The only correct take in this thread.

Kids don't give a fuck about Star Wars. Never did

Lil Tyrese, you want heroes that look like you, don't you?

No, I want Batman

How young are you? Actually unhinged take.

Because back then there was this thing called MARKET RESEARCH that nailed what demographics liked and wanted down to a science. Bruce Timm talks about this when he was making Green Lantern TAS, it was hysterical how stereotypical the responses from the demographics were to it (boys liking the action scenes and girls liking the romance scenes). Now we don't have that anymore, now mentally ill Californian white women use cartoons as a form of therapy and that's why everything is terrible.

Yea, I won't say I wasn't attracted to girls my age, because I was jerking it to loli porn when I was 12, but I was definitely way more likely to watch something with hot older women with big titties than something with a bunch of young girls.

Anon, little boys have been into stories about adventure and heroes fighting enemies and saving hot women for literally thousands of years.

I was a same age kinda kid so I didn't really consider this but yeah, half the boys growing up said fuck Misty, gimmie Jessie (or equivalent). Those boys are pretty much left out to dry on most shows today.
And yes, unironically waifus do attract boys to your program. Dan Schneider knew it, and so did some cartoons. Piquing that interest is just good business.

They did in the 70s and in the 2000s, Kids like whatever advertising tells them to like, it's just advertising is so diffuse it's difficult to get a coherent beam of it into kids now in between KSI and Logan Paul videos

Gen Z aren't kids anymore

Kids like whatever advertising tells them to like

No, kids like when they're advertised aliens and laser swords and heroes and spooky villains and princesses to save (she kinda hot tho) and moving shit with your mind.
Thinking you can force a kid to like something is peak retard.

Kids have subject matters they are interested in and have great taste in interest. What they are weaker on is detecting how well that interest is being executed, that's where it's on the adults to give them a good version of what they want instead of Clutch Cargo.