When the artist and writer are not the same person, is it better if the artist is subordinate to the writer or if they are co-creators?
Writer subordinate to the artist
HAHAHAHAHA
When the artist and writer are not the same person...
There’s no such thing as writers or artists anymore, there’s the writing team and the artist team and both are slaves to the almighty editor.
art is nothing. writing is everything
Writer subordinate to artist is actually a common occurrence in Continental European comics.
Art is what people read comics for. Ideally, the artist and writer work together, but they work together to maximize the artist's potential (ie. if the artist is known for good fight scenes, every issue is a 20 page fight with one page setup and one page wrapup).
This is false unless you're literally Alan Moore, and you're not.
art is what people read comics for
such nonsense. if you have a shit story but draw it beautifully, why should anyone care? draw the nicest looking peter parker ever but have him be raped by norman osborn for the rmalofa random lulz -- is that going to be a good comic book? no. meanwhile, there are comics drawn with literal stick figures that have emotional weight because of the writing.
art helps immerse and accentuate the story. at the best of times art and story elevate each other.
Art is what people read comics for.
yeah fuck the story, i just wanna look at the pretty pictures
Art is what people read comics for
There are certainly people like that out there, and they were the ones buying all those absolute garbage early Image comics that were all art and little else.
Writer subordinate to the artist
Murata one punch man?
draw a spider-man issue with stick figures and see if anybody cares
half the story is in the pictures
How?
Gaiman's Sandman is still wildly successful, and some of the artists he worked with were really rough.
there’s the writing team and the artist team and both are slaves to the almighty editor.
It's always been like that.
The manga was adapted from a webcomic
art isn't just how pretty the picture is, but how engaging the story is told visually.
Co creators. I remember reading an interview with Steve McNiven and he talked a little about how he puts shit into the book the writer never mentions that everybody credits to the writers in the fandom and I was blow away by how much extra work he puts in to elevate the scripts he gets. I think that was when he was on fantastic four back in the day.
But the webcomic creator was both writer and artist.
This is Alan Moore's script for the first panel of the first page of Watchmen
The panel for reference
Crazy fucker.
The highlight is Gibbons cutting though the tedium
notice he basically took Moore's note that the other things could be ignored and did so
I have NEVER read this btw and I refuse to
The amount of detail here is fit for a Geof Darrow comic.
if you have a shit story but draw it beautifully, why should anyone care
That’s literally what half of triggers shows are, or even some of Todd McFarland comics are. It’s not just about the story, it’s about how you tell it, and the art is a big part of that. New frontier wouldn’t be half as good without the art
Is it really necessary to write this much text to express
Why are scripts written all caps?
Gibbons ignored a ton of it.
if you have a shit story but draw it beautifully, why should anyone care?
Because the art is literally the most important part, anon. Hush was a shit story with great art, and it was a massive sales hit. All Mark Millar comics have shit stories but great art. Art is the important thing. As long as the story isn't outright offensively terrible, art carries.
Typewriters often didn't have lowercase letters.
Hush
great art
But that one clearly does have lower case
How the fuck does that even work? Does the artist just draw random scenes and then tell the writer “make a story out of these”
Yeah, and the webcomic artist also wrote the story.
Kek
It honestly depends. Great writing can carry bad/lame art too
I think he's bullshitting.
Do you really think someone would just lie on the internet?
Basically an artist comes up with a general idea and asks a writer to help dialog or plot it, with the ability to add or remove anything they like.
If that was me in that situation and the publisher put fucking someone else's name down in the "Written by..." part, I (THE GUY WHO CAME UP WITH THE STORY) would fucking sue
Stan Lee came up with a name for it, it's called "The Marvel Method".
The artists would come up with the stories and draw them. Stan would come in at the end to add the dialogue (even though the artists often penciled in their own suggested dialogue).
Ditko would HATE you.