Can 1940s super soldier research outmatch 2500s cybernetic enhancements?
Can Master Chief beat up Captain America?
the winner is whoever the writer wants to win, because its made up
cap realizes he is outmatched in strength and comes up with some strategy to nullify master chiefs armor, like luring him somewhere to drop a tank on top of him, and then his vibranium shield cuts through his armor like paper: cap wins
or master chief is experienced enough to see what cap is doing and avoids it, and then rushes cap down with his futuristic powered armor, and just tackles cap to the ground: master chief wins
Steve would take pity on John because of his depressing childhood.
real nerds would realize that they would never fight each other, as they have common interests in defending innocents and fighting evil tyrants
Way I've got it figured, Steve is superior on a biological level, but he'd need to get creative if Chief is armoured up.
Actually the SPARTAN-II program was created to suppress insurrectionists so technically the role Chief was intended for would be to prop up the regime, not tear it down.
Possible? Yes. Likely? About as much as iron man, but if he had captain america's cqc skills. So I doubt it. Especially considering cheif has dealt with enemies sporting shields before, daily, even.
Batman isn't a superhuman and even he assesses that he could give Steve trouble, despite the gap favoring Steve over a long fight.
Chief would be too strong with his cybernetics.
to be fair, that insurrectionist act was a threat that would brought the UNSC into a bloody civil war if the covenant hadn't showed up and started to burn planets.
But the core ideal still stands, "protect humanity what ever the cost"
That has a whiff of a "the winners write the history books" slant.
Yes and it’s not even really that close.
I’m not even really a power level fag but this shit annoys me. it only works a in certain situations and is, especially these days, abused by big 2 writers. Flawed thinking that allows for shitsmears like Tom king to have catwoman knock out three flashes in a single page who despite being controlled by ivy had just clearly shown they were fast enough to cross the country in seconds and we’re moving at speeds that should have turned her to salsa.
In this case, a hand to hand fight, cap would genuinely be torn limb from limb, the Spartans are almost Spider-Man strong.
I INVOKE THE KOTH SHOW BIBLE RULE.
Master Chief is def stronger than Cap, but Cap could kick his ass if he was really pissed off.
This isn’t a goku/Superman situation (and even then goku fights everyone so it doesn’t apply). Both of them routinely fight for and against the power structures around them.
At Chief's peak they're physically fairly close. I'd say Cap would win unless we're talking about MCU Cap. Comic Cap has way more experience than Cheif and has leveraged his shield to go up agienst people way above him.
Chief might win agienst MCU Cap though, the lack of experience puts him at the disadvantage (unless you give him Mjölnir but that feels like cheating)
Peak human in DC is superhuman by real world standards. Cap struggling with Bats doesn't mean anything really.
Yeah the knee jerk power-scaling hatred is out of control. If you don't have any sense of who can beat what, there would be no stakes or internal logic to the story.
BatInTheSun did a Super Power Beat Down on this
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Power scaling is retarded because it's being applied to fiction and will immediately cry about 'muh inconsistencies' as if it has no understanding whatsoever of what it's attempting to examine. The consistency in fiction is what a given writer determines over time and many not necessarily contiguous stories. The only rule that applies, and sane people understand, is Power scaling is fucking useless and requires a total divorce from reality. It's no wonder powerscale threads are full of schizos, consequently.
OH NO !
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
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The interesting thing about this quote is that it's completely wrong. Like no, the person who decides who wins is not the writer but the editor. If Writer McShithead writes a story about Daredevil 1v1 Galactus it's the editors job to tell the writer why that's fucking retarded.
Only Stan Lee, a man who at his tenure was never told no, could make such a stupid fucking claim.
It's clear the last 30 years the editors don't do shit, non-reader illiterate.
against the power structures around them.
346 does not count anon
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Bullshit as it’s routinely used to defend absolutely retarded, illogical writing.
Against MCU Cap, evenly matched outside of armor, Chief edges it out in armor.
Against 616 Cap, depends on whether Chief is in his armor or not. Outside of the armor, Cap wins, inside the armor, it gets a bit more dicey because Chief inside his armor is closer to Steve at his baseline since 616 Cap hasn't just been peak human for a long time, but I'd still give it to Steve.
Your whiny insistence on consuming poorly written slop with no coherent story-telling only proves my point.
if a writer can come up with a compelling reason that daredevil could beat galactus, then daredevil beats galactus
Pretty sure Chief is programmed enough to always kill anyone he is ordered to go kill without question.
This is stupid marvel wankery bullshit.
If Bruce wanted to take Cap down he would take Cap down. He would not stand there and make it an old faswhioned boxing match. He would come up with an elaborate plan to incapacitate Cap in some way, probably in his apartment at night in his sleep.
A compelling reason would be something like Daredevil was granted a device that reduces Galactus in some way that he's essentially powerless. Technically, yes, Daredevil beat Galactus, but not in the way most people are thinking how it could be written, which is Daredevil throwing a baton at Galactus's foot, causing Galactus to trip over and impale himself on a skyscraper.
Can't tell if troll, but the only things keeping Batman from getting humiliated in any crossover against any character is DC throwing a bitchfit or a popularity contest since Batfags are one of the most insecure fanbases on the planet.
Trips of truth.
Seethe of COPE.
no argument
pure seething
'p-p-proves m-my....'
LOL
LMAO
Imagine being so low IQ you don't understand what 'fiction' means.
Cap lures Chief somewhere and drops a tank on him
Chief presses X
Pretty sure Chief is programmed enough to always kill anyone he is ordered to go kill without question.
No, that would be something Noble Six does.
I wonder captain America would be considered a spartan 1 type
forced engagement award
could X beat Y award
redundant content award
Don't post if you have nothing to say.
Does anyone have the webm of Kratos vs Balder but it's Master Chief and Doom Slayer? Fucking thing makes me lose it every time
Nvm I found it
I think Master Chief would take it but would struggle if he only has his usual load-out of an assault rifle/battle rifle and a magnum. I also think Chief could catch a shield throw
"The industry is completely broken and exists in a terrible place" is not a reasonable counter argument to my claim. Like ideally that wouldn't be the case.
Can Master Chief beat up Captain Amer-
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