I've been thinking about reading comics age-by-age and was thinking whether or not I should just skip this entirely and move on to the silver age whom just seems more attractive. Thoughts?
Would you say the Golden Age is worth reading?
Not really. Maybe some exceptions like Plastic Man.
It's all ass
Golden Age is more interesting for Batman in general compared to the silverage. Bill finger is still writing into the 50's
Reading GA in general can be a flog though, but most of 60s Batman is a wash until around 69.
GA is full of garbage because of both an industry bubble and a lot of throwing shit to the wall to see what sticks. It's also full of a surprising amount of quality due to the size of output and lack of genre formalization. If you do decide to skip it, keep in mind the early Silver Age has a lot of garbage in it as well.
It varies. There are genuinely good comics like late 1940s era of The Spirit, Captain Marvel, Plastic Man, Daredevil, EC Comics, Carl Barks' Duck comics, but a there was a lot of stuff like said where people were throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. Because of that thinking sometimes there were characters that were so undeveloped the creators never bothered to give them a backstory.
Plastic Man is fun but a lot of GA comics are downright unbearable to read
Golden Age Batman is best in those first few years of stories, but readable up through the early 50s. There's a lot of Batman and Robin vs generic criminal stories and after a while they blur together.
NO! IT IS BORING
maybe 2, 3 stories
No.
Not unless you're a historian and you want to learn various origins.
Golden Age Batman is worth reading if only to see him kill Joker. Yes, that does happen.
Comics didn't get good until the 80s.
Some stories still hold up imo like The Origin of the Batman from Batman #47 or Man Behind Red Hood from Detective Comics #168
That's a bad opinion
Botslop spotted
why are trannoids always so asshurt at Golden Age Kino? Is it because it comes from problematic times?
This a shallow post that feels extremely contrarian
OMG why can't trannoids enjoy boring stories?
Faggot. Of course there are some good things there, but don't act like it's good in general. And you fags always post the same Spectre page, use something new
Good art, shit writing. Face it, you know I'm right.
Besides acknowledging your heckin cute and valid gender dysphoria do you think comics are good now?
Art is part of the storytelling
And it's engaging storytelling.
Sure, but they put words there, which are going to be read and judged.
60's Marvel is pure word diarrhea that makes Tim Buckley look succinct
Yes Stan Lee's writing is overrated. But Ditko's direction, plots, and drawings were great. And sometimes Lee's parts were good
who the fuck is tim buckley?
Your mileage will vary between what characters and companies you read. My suggestion is give them a shot, but also learn to know what to skip within each panel. Many of them ramble on with big text boxes that offer nothing to the story. Hell you can probably just read the dialogue and follow the stories just fine. Obviously start by reading everything on the page, but you'll eventually get a feel for when a box is going to be skippable.
hating GA means that I like new comics
What kind of cope is this?
Golden Age started in 1938 ('39 if we're talking about Batman) and ended in 1954. Let's find out what was the best issue of each year in that timeframe:
- 1939: Case of Chemical Sindicate (Detective Comics #27)
- 1940: The Joker (Batman #1)
- 1941: One of the Most Perfect Frame-Ups (Detective Comics #58)
-1942: The Crimes of Two-Face (Detective Comics #66)
-1943: Here Comes Alfred (Batman #16)
or The End of Two-Face (Detective Comics #80)
-1944: Knights of Knavery (Batman #25)
-1945: no idea
-1946: Dinosaur Island (Batman #35)
1947: The Penny Plunderers (World's Finest #30)
-1948: The Origin of the Batman (Batman #47)
or The Riddler (Detective Comics #140 )
-1950:The Secret Life of the Catwoman! (Batman #62 ) or
Man Behind Red Hood (Detective Comics #168)
-1951: idk
-1952: The Mightiest Team in the World (Superman #76)
-1953: City Without Guns (Detective Comics #196)
or Batman of the Mounties (Batman #78)
-1954: Batman – Double for Superman! (World's Finest #71 )
What good is the art when it's buried under a metric fuckton of blabber?
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Thats very helpful, thanks. Which one did you think was better during these early ages? I think I'll start with Marvel because I found a very helpful guide, but I gotta say silver age DC does interest me a lot more.
visual medium. You should still be able to appreciate the storytellling in the art.
Tim Buckley is why aging 00s fanboys don't want to put effort into reading, they see words, and they think of Tim Buckley and how they made fun of him for using a lot of words
As someone who has gone through the original stan lee run of spidey comics... It's worth trudging through the dialogue-heavy early ones. The stan lee run is full of iconic important spidey lore that's still adapated to this day.
Not when the art is clearly secondary to the words words words, why not just read a book at this point?
You sweet summer child.
Tim Buckley, AKA BU, is the cartoonist who created the popular 00s webcomic Ctrl+Alt+Del.
You may be familiar with his worko through the Loss meme.
Let's face it. if you can't handle wordiness of 60s Spiderman, you aint reading any books
Lettering can be a visually interesting component of a composition. If you don't like reading words, try watching tiktok.
You sweet summer child.
no I just don't bother to remember pointless webcomics. Been here since the early 2000s. I only talk or post about things relative to my interests and some guy's webcomic isn't one of them.
I really don't care about reading at all. Old GA comics also had that issue. My problem is when what I'm reading is dumb
Spider strength!
My Spider powers!
The radioactive spider gave me these Spider powers!
My Spider powers!
Those were the bad parts. And I don't have that issue with pic rel, for example. I prefer huge boxes of text instead of 3 or 4 panels per page, with one sentence in each panel.
Show don't tell. By the late 70's comics finally learned this and got good.
Penny Arcade is better
And your complain reminds me of a Anon Babbletard's post. Pic rel is one of the best and most iconic moments in comics of all time. And he said that it was too much text. What makes these three pages so good is the combination of the art and Peter's monologue
I read prose at least thrice a week, sometimes every day, and this shit bothers me. When it's superfluous, it sucks.
Nice LARP. Anon Babble didn't exist in the early 00s. It was 2006. Before that it was Something Awful and shitposting CBR/Newsarama/DCComics.com
READ NIGGA, READ
GA comics had a lot of goofy quips and other bizarre things (like Batman asking Robin to kick him in the ass) but compare this mid-battle quipping to the truly insufferable early Daredevil and Spider-man where they're vomiting out full paragraphs of hey daddyo type word sludge and it's like night and day
Yeah, peter's monologue SELLS this moment. Without truly understanding his desperation and how he keeps urging himself to keep going, this story arc wouldn't be as iconic as it is today.
Hating GA comics feels like bigger contrarianism
I came here before there was a Anon Babble, through a Godzila forum mentioning this places as a source for hentai.
Liking Golden Age comics is much worse contrarianism.
Hating GA comics feels like bigger contrarianism
right? it's called "the golden age of comics" for a reason
art is clearly secondary
By nature if how these books were made, not at all.
There are some of them that are good. But I won't act like it was good in general
Liking Golden Age comics is much worse contrarianism.
What's with Anon Babble having the worst possible takes
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Yeah, the art wasn't secondary. Their method of storytelling was just clunky, supposedly because they wanted readers to get more words per installment to keep them entertained. They just didn't know better.
patently false, that's Silver Age slop
that would imply that the consensus is that they're all bad, which isn't the case. at worst people are apathetic to them. Most discussion around them is about seeing the good in them and sorting through the most worthwhile stories.
Woman: Daredevil, please save my baby!
Daredevil in one single word box: Au contreur, ye put upon matronly mother of the night! I'll have your baby safe in his jammies before you can say 'high-flying superhero !' And away I go! Ah, saving tykes is the small price to pay for being such a free-wheeling high flying red-clad adventurer par excellence!
Daredevil isn't from GA, you dumbo
i'm talking about 60's Marvel
There is a GA Daredevil, but I don't think that he's aware that it's a different one
Oh boy you're angry lol. 60s Daredevil wasn't good. Not everything made by Marvel in the 60s was gold, that's common sense
Because not all comic books are artist driven. The fact that this "words are bad" talking point came from a retard who rose to prominence by calling hack writers "cumdumpsters" doesn't surprise me.
Insert podshots at Bendis' Superman run here.
Simple Zack did not pioneer the notion that word-heavy comics are shit, maybe you're the one who should stop hinging your opinion off some internet talking head. Even supposing you're right, are you going to pretend that early Spider-Man had good writing?
"Show, don't tell" was promoted by the CIA via their support of the Iowa Writer's Workshop. The goal was that American dullards could pat themselves on the back for projecting their narrow worldview onto art that fails to challenge any of their preconceived notions. Don't know that I'd celebrate this sort of advice.
Simple Zack did not pioneer the notion that word-heavy comics are shit
He popularized the talking point whether you want to admit it or not. Some comic books are art spectacles (see early Image) while others are Talkies (see Vertigo). Notice how its about "too many words" and not about if the writing is any good. That's Simple Zack simple logic i.e. "It's a visual medium so there shouldn't be any words".
A good writer could convey their intent without resorting to something as egregious as 60's Marvel slop
words bad words bad words bad
Same simple logic. No, I want my Talkie comics.
words bad words bad words bad
Yes, but '39 Batman kind of sucks. '40 to '41 is when Finger, Robinson and the rest find their groove.
My favorite from this era is The Honest Crook.