Why is this spider-mans number 1 enemy?

He was the first to find out his secret identity,t hen he was a supporting cast member, then he killed his girlfriend which cemented him so hard they kept inventing replacements, and then he came back and has reigned since then.

You just took a joke page and tried to attach some sort of kino to it when it's just a once in blue moon moment for Slott writing something mildly funny. Yeah it makes sense since Gobby expects Spidey to joke and quip. Perhaps it's just your personal tastes but if you want a better example, the Death in a Family story, even with the horrible Ramos art, is better at achieving that pathos.
The end of Revelations where Norman kills Reilly as well as the stuff with him trying to brainwash Peter shows that all this shit he does to Peter is simply impersonal and he just wants to torture him for "killing" Harry and it all started in the Ditko days because Spidey was simply threatening his criminal empire. Only when Norman found out his identity and killed Gwen is when it became personal only according to Norman's own schemes.
Maybe you agree with that but those stories I mentioned show that it's half business, half personal except during the 00's when he grows obsessed and crazy from finding ways to torture Peter. It's not a bad direction but I miss schemin' Norman.
He grew to that role because people were intrigued by the sheer weirdness of the Goblin motif and his gadgets and the mystery behind the mask.
Basically a combo of his mystery, strength, criminal leadership, and gimmicks that culminated in him finding Peter's identity for real made him the number one archnemesis. I think the motif fits as says for all those reasons but also goblins fit with spiders in medieval settings, witch's magic, and gremlins are creatures which fuck up planes which would instantly ruin someone and a goblin being like that sword of Damocles hanging over Peter's life and the web of people surrounding him, fits that.
Also goblins like greed and gold which fits Norman's wealth and the glider fits with that aforementioned Gremlin theme being a flying vehicle.
Read Revelations, lol. Takes place at Halloween and is a pretty kino goblin story.

I know Spidey would annoy the heck out of Batman if they'll meet, but would it be Joker who'll kick GG's ass or the opposite?

in a straight fight, gobbie wins no contest
his gadgets are something joker would have used in the silver age, but he is willing to kill with them like its the bronze age
he also has a (depending on the author) level of super strength and durability thats vaguely "less than spider-man but still enough to hold his own"

joker wins if he can create a zany trap that can eventually disable enough of gobbies gadgets and then neutralize him without having to go face to face, unironically the prep-time meme but for joker
but if you are talking a straightforward brawl, then green goblin drops a bomb on joker and turns him into a skeleton before laughing maniacally as he zooms away on his glider

Goblin and Joker would be interesting, desu. They have some overstated similarities but enough differences/

Joker is about chaos/the fun of it/the presentation, Goblin is about achieving long lasting power even if he revels in petty vengeance at the same time. Norman is much more of an egotists/opportunist than Joker, so the conflict would arise, who would win just depends on who the writer favors

Joker wins because he's so unpredictable and wild card etc, Goblin wins because he actually has order and goals and isn't just goofing around

Let me give you a little thought experiment.

Spider-Man hears that Green Goblin, Doc Ock, and Venom are rampaging around a crowded New York at separate locations. Who would he - NOT you - try to stop first?

That is part of his power. He feels like he should be an occult being, but his is the realm of science. Only kind of magic is maybe madness of the mind, but that is later on.

Also, this crossover sucked kinda but I love the contrast painted between Joker and Carnage, cause it's true. Carnage is a pure sadist who loves blood and guts and machismo, Joker is a showman who's clown theme (when done well) should come first before the carnage

Goblins and spiders are natural enemies, just like bats and jokes, and supers and balds.

I thought the natural enemy of spiders were wasps? Or is it that goblins are a kind of wasp?

He's very irresponsible with his power.

Batman's #1 enemy is a clown
Superman's #1 enemy is a bald rich guy
Flash's #1 enemy is a stupid looking guy in a parka with a freeze ray
Aquaman's #1 enemy is some autistic loser who owns a wet suit

None of their evil opposite type villains are their main nemesis.

Norman should be enough to handle Batman in a straight up confrontation. Joker is much less of an issue.

spiders have enemies, mostly other spiders, reptiles, birds, frogs, small predatory mammals etc but some breeds of scorpions and waps yes

Captain America and Wolverine definitely have evil counterpart as their main villain. Thor is debatable since the domains are different, but is also a god raised as a brother. Iron Man is also weird because most his notable guys are an evil counterpart to Tony Stark the man instead of Iron Man specifically (also dead).

Batman's #1 enemy is a clown

Gaudily dressed clown who sees murder as a joke vs stern, stoic, black clad gargoyle

Superman's #1 enemy is a bald rich guy

Brains vs brawn

Flash's #1 enemy is a stupid looking guy in a parka with a freeze ray

Its actually reverse flash

Aquaman's #1 enemy is some autistic loser who owns a wet suit

Underwater guy vs deep sea diver

spider-man

The 8-legged animal scientist or evil alien spider-man sound like good starts

Kek

natural enemy of spiders were wasps

They explored that theme a bit in 2000s issues of ASM. A wasp woman villain named Shathra was introduced when Spidey went to some spiritual journey into chaos dimension. She tried to feed on him and actually kicked Pete's ass for a few issues. When it didn't work as planned, she resorted to a cunning tricks every woman knows and said on TV Spidey and her had sex.

She was a cool one-off villain for a 2000s comic but then Marvel ruined it by bringing her back because no one can fucking die in Marvel universe completely.

Because villains don't *need* to be natural opponents of the characters.
Zod isn't the number 1 Superman enemy, even if he is the most natural opponent, Killer Moth or Owlman isn't the number 1 Batman enemy, and so on
Green Goblin is a petty asshole willing to make Spidey's life miserable just for the fuck of it, like Black Manta, another villain that isn't necessarily the natural opponent of Aquaman considering Ocean Master exists.
These character grew into the archnemesis role, they weren't made for it

Sorry anon but with your logic I would say Captain Cold is still Flash's main nemesis. At least from a man on the street type perspective. Opposite Flash is as fast as him but he's just obsessed with him? Nah cold man who slows Flash down makes more sense to me. His glasses make him cool looking and I don't know too much Flash comics but Cap Cold is like Doc Ock in the sense that he's not a super personal enemy like Thawne but he shows up enough due to his iconic look and more unique move set before Mr. Freeze became relevant.
As for the ol' shellhead, wouldn't the Mandarin be his main nemesis? Plays a part in his origin and uses his legacy to study evil magic, the opposite of the science Tony uses from his legacy of his father? I haven't read Iron Man but Mandarin growing more addicted and vain from conquering lands could be the counter to Tony's struggle to stay humble and not be an addict.

Spider-Man is much more a hokey themed guy than an actual spider guy despite some fans wanting that, like how people like organic webbing. He could easily look like this, more than being a mutant spider. So I think Goblin fits to be honest, both seemingly random themes interpreted in a classic scifi superhero fashion

wouldn't the Mandarin be his main nemesis?

the mandarin has, for most of the comics run, been his one true nemesis
its only more recently that they have tried to diminish that, mostly because he is a fu manchu cultural stereotype
but before that, the mandarin was seen as iron mans opposite, mystical to tonys mechanical

there was also a brief time when they tried to make doom into iron mans nemesis

both of them wear powered armor, but iron man embraces looking new and shiny while doom hides his power under an old timey exterior

iron man is a modern day self-made businessman while doom lives in a gothic castle

iron man ultimately wants science to benefit humanity while doom sees it as a means to his own ends

iron man is all about technology, doom dabbles in the arcane

despite being in a few really good comics exploring the dynamic, doom is just too tied down to reed to ever truly stop being the enemy of the F4

while ditko hadnt gone full ayn rand at this time yet, green goblin was more of what the objectivists would have called a looter
in contrast to the raimi-verse, where he is definitely a scientist who built his own gear, ditko goblin stole the glider and the goblin formula from another scientist instead

Doc Ock lost his spot decades ago

More like he failed to capitalize on taking the spot when the Green Goblin was off the table.

This, also Venom became way to popular and has had one foot in the anti hero camp for the better half of his existence.That's also the reason there have been so many Symbiotes characters. Each one an attempt to replace his heroic or evilness half.

All of the Goblin knock offs were an attempt to fix the "oh shit, why did we kill Norman" problem. No one could replace Stormin Norman or Doc Ock of that matter.

Venom lost all chance of being the all time greatest villain when he got his own onging and started teaming up with spider-man to fight Carnage. Carnage has for all intents and purposes become the defacto Symbiotes villain.

I hate to powerlevelfag, but my problem with Otto is that he's just some dude (an out of shape one at that).
His one superpower is specifically something that exists to be countered by Spider-Sense. Spider-Man should be easily beat him in one punch (and he often does) unless the story bends itself backwards to justify it even being a fight.
Norman on the other hand has similar super-strength and durability + healing factor and all kinds of Batman-tier gadgets, so far as fight scenes go he's a better match for Spider-Man as well.

He did that in the 80s, dumbass.

I never understood why people want some opposing symbolism at all. Just have a guy that likes law and order punch a criminal that breaks laws. There does not need to be a deep core philosophy about it.

If the people punching each other don't care about it beyond "it is my job", the readers won't care either.

What part of kill yourself are you still not getting

It kind of bothers me Scorpion is really low on Spider-Man rogue gallery. Isn't his whole thing that scorpion hunt spiders?

He's strong but retarded and boring and hechman-tier, like Electro.

I never understood why people want some opposing symbolism at all

Because its cool and interesting

Just have a guy that likes law and order punch a criminal that breaks laws.

The penguin breaks laws and gets beaten up by batman, but hasnt been anywhere close to compelling as the joker because he lacks the same contrast with batman
A monster clown who dresses flamboyantly is just much more visually interesting juxtaposed against an all-black dracula look alike

boring

Only because writers have no idea what to do with him.
He's a total psychopath who functions as Spider-Man's evil mirror. And I guess being a PI requires some level of intelligence, but then again Jessica Jones exists so maybe not.
He could be Bullseye-tier if the writers could grow past the "this character is le lame" crap and actually try to write him as a credible threat.

Because Spider-mans whole shtick is "With Great Power MUST ALSO come great responsibility." Norman, be it in his civilian guise or as the Goblin is someone who has great power but flaunts the responsibility that should come with it more t han anyone else.

the mental illness aspect makes osborn more interesting than brock or octavius

The problem with Scorpion is that he was the EVIL arachnid but then the whole world got gay for symbiotes so Scorpion sort of became obsolete. Which is a shame because his connection to JJ I think makes him more interesting.

Somehow Bullseye got more brains than Gargan.

hes not. bad writers and editorial decided he had to be and forced it for no reason. no one likes him and now you have to have him be responsible for everything wrong with spidermans life and anything bad that happens.

It isn't like Eddie is exactly an example of good mental health either.

Venom is no longer a villain.
And Carnage is some gay god shit or whatever. The whole thing is retarded and I hate Cates so much it's unreal.
Maybe it's time to give Scorpion time to shine.
Oh, right.

ASM writers and editorial doing anything competently

Lol

Spider-man's theming is evil scientists, the animal bit doesn't really matter

origin brock isn't that crazy when you think about it, i think that's why they ramped it up later

Scorpion first of all never had a great look. He's just a bland boring looking green guy. Venom massively overshadows him in the cool looks department. He needs more than green with stripes.

But also no one could ever really think up a good gimmick for him. Scorpion abilities do not translate to superpowers well, and no one ever fully decided what the tail should do. It's sometimes a whacking, bashing thing, sometimes it has a little blade, sometimes has a laser on it, sometime shoots acid, sometimes it's jut a Dock Ock arm.

After all that, he has no real function. He's a dumb lug with bug powers. No real goal other than revenge on JJ sometimes. Other than that he is a common criminal that robs people. Dock Ock and Osborne are megalomaniacal supervillains with city domination plans. Venom has the revenge against Peter and he has some delusions of being a better hero thing.

Doc ock and venom are far more natural opponents.

The most natural enemy of the spider.
An octopus and a blob.

Pretty sure Spider-Man's theme is low level common nobody who got superpowers.

While most of his villains are also normal ol guys that also got superpowers.

But aren't most superpower people who aren't mutants already like that? Got irradiated or built something useful or something.

Pretty sure Spider-Man's theme is low level common nobody who got superpowers.

via wacky science gone wrong