Which comics universe is the king of powerscaling, CHADvel or DCHAD?
DEATH BATTLE
ENTERRRRRR
What can Kyle do that the Anti-Spiral hasn't done to Simon?
DC, duh. But I don't care, I prefer Marvel. Honestly most people that disagree with DC being stronger are probably sad manchildren
Be white, Anti-Spirals were black/purple.
Didn't anti-spiral run out of ideas at a big bang level attack?
With white outlines!
Infinity big bang and no it got biggerer. Plus they were pretty much already transcending everything by that point
confetti
Why are the jannies mad this time
Does Infinity Big Bang Attack
Lord Genome sacrifices himself, turns it into spiral energy (and him as well)
In the anime it just boosts up TTGL, the other forms fall and Simon pierces the Anti Spiral with Lagann instantly
In the movie after absorbing it, TTGL turns Super, Anti Spiral instantly matches his size
They have a giga drill break clash, Simon's drill breaks down to just Gurren Lagann
Simon is tossed inside Anti Sprial's mech
Fist Fight
Simon forms a drill, kills Anti Spiral
TTGL cosmology scales to at least 11D, so it would be a Big Bang at that level at least, even then Simon probably scales to Outer
All Might
Kirby bros don't look.
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do tell how exactly?
Deadpool is full of shit
Superman X All-Might when????
I kinda feel like I'm disrespecting franchises by just reducing them to out of character power level slaughterfests.
Death Battle CHADS... we're strong.
…said Homelander, to the fodder standing before him.
Nothing
...at the "die to janny tantrums" competition.
uses LE (something they'll give him because Death Battle has their fighter at their prime)
Erases Simon from existence
At least Kyle's not a faggot
Is Deadpool Samurai the OHKO of Manga?
Uses LE
Sucks at using LE
Gets giga drilled anyways
How is the life equation supposed to kill Simon?
The last fight in Gurren Lagann is in a pocket universe
Not really impressive. Kyle flexes in infinite REAL universes
Hulk is a jobber
All-Might strongest there is
Post Kyle growing to the size of a universe.
It just is!
Post Kyle destroying a galaxy.
Post Simon doing something that wasn't in an imaginary space
P-please don't post Simon's feats! I'm a featless fraud and need some way to cope!
Kyle does things in an actual universe. Simon plays pretend. I just imagined a gun that's a trillion times bigger than Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann it can kill him instantly, no matter how much spiral energy he has.
Simon is sent through an infinite amount of universes with literally no chance of escaping
Escapes anyway
Kyle gets his drink spiked
Literally gets raped
Oops
List of BOUNDLESS Slayer feats
Made Microsoft kneel and buy his company to save them from Halo's stink
Most successful revival of an old IP, with three critically and consumer acclaimed games
Canonically the strongest of the GODLY trio and made LAMEtos and BITCHte his servants
Single-handedly makes Azathoth stay asleep out of fear
Makes the boogeyman check his bed for him
Found Waldo without trying
Knows how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop
Keeps Godzilla as a pet
Slew GOD himself for killing his pet rabbit
Is the reason why the DC cosmology is a flat gay pizza
Out pizza'd the hut
Bullied Cthulhu
Freed Master Chief from 343's clutches by sending him to the pearly gates
Turned SLUTana into his AI bitch
Can run on anything, even a calculator
Saved 4chud from hackers
Just curious. What can he do to stop Simon? What would the Life Equation do? Can one Kylefag post feat(s)/hax that beat Simon?
Could TTGL exist in normal space?
TTGL could exist in normal space as it creates the Super Spiral Space within itself.
Out of story fanfic slop
Super Spiral Space exists in the show, moron. Also it's Word of God
Lost to Samus and would lose again
The Metroid Suit is Samus's only suit upgrade that grants total invincibility.
Wonder Mommy is just fead up with pussies like Kyle and Thor
Slayer would rape Samus.
Why would he rape his wife. Last time I checked, Slayer isn't Indian
Slayer would have passionate baby-making sex with his wife.*
What does Shitmon the Faggot have for this?
what's the strongest indie animated series?
Ballot banter:
The Beast vs Erik
Uses the book versions, the thumbnail uses the B/W films. Would be cool to do an episode in B/W and with flim grain.
Danny Sexbang vs Hatsune Miku
They think it's pretty funny, Ben really likes it.
Kiryu Kazuma vs Jotaro Kujo
Cool, but Jotaro would stomp. Arguably, he would still win even without SP (survived the World's punches).
Frieren vs Tiki
They say they should really do a Frieren episode.
Geralt vs Talion
Talion is busted in Shadow of War; he would win. When it comes to the Witcher, the video games are more wild than the books.
Jolyne Kujo vs Mayday Parker
Would be interesting to see spider-sense vs stands and webs vs strings. Swan says Jolyne is one of the most creative Joestars right behind Josuke.
Omar Little vs Mike Ehrmantraut
They think it would be awesome. Would be cool to do normal, regular guys fighting in the city. Jokingly suggested that they would bring it up to Ismahawk.
Kang the Conqueror vs The Master
Kang is essentially a timelord. Ben wonders what the Master could do to him. They'd have to give him a TARDIS to stand a chance.
Springtrap vs Clockwerk
They think it would be fun. They need to do a Sly episode, sepcifically Sly vs Lupin.
Peppino vs Anton
The last indie game character on the show was Shovel Knight, so they should do more indie game episodes.
Professor Layton vs The Riddler
Layton would stomp the Riddler (in puzzle-solving). In a fight it's little more up in the air. Overall, they really like it.
WHEN I SAY GO BE READY TO THROW, READY?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm throw
WAIT I DIDN'T SAY GO, I DIDN'T SAY GO!!!!
Dog Layton has canonically appeared in Inazuma Eleven and has a move where he jumps into space from the fucking ground.
Simon would stand absolutely no chance against Bueno Excellente
rat survived
arle food
12-or-so olds and swarthoifs still discussing meaningless takedowns
Ok, your fave is multidimensional or whatnot, but can he beat anyone in a civil debate?
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almost all of those things are actually on the same level
Proof for any of this?
Which ones? Bleed is contained within the multiverse, Speed Force and God Sphere is outside of it, Monitor Sphere is above those layers, Sixth Dimension is above the Monitor Sphere and Source Wall, Overvoid is the highest DC layer I'm aware of.
How will Simon defeat Swan?
…’s laundry
Same way CHADgonborn did. By out bullshitting the bullshitter.
yeah but even with wank Dark Souls doesn't reach Elder Scrolls levels but DC does
DC does
DC is 6D paper frauds.
BEASTmon and the GODborn? High boundless+ deities who are able to outwank real life retardation
checking in from my business trip
you better not be arguing cause i'm gonna be back to btfo you once it drops
Requiem æternam, Dona eis, Domine
and what did they put DC at during Goku vs Superman 3 hmm?
Who cares, they were on Warner’s payroll then.
not answering
done, have fun coping I'll be back soon
Look at Swans frustration
*Posts a timestamp of him after he was laughing from Sam making a joke about changing his vote to a draw*
Huh?
Overvoid
kek
OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
3 - 0
Okay so what’s going to be the cope if Kyle wins?
WILL IT BE A:
S-SWAN RIGGED IT! LOOK HE WROTE THE EPISODE (ignore the fact that he wrote Giorno Vs Swan, Dark Souls Vs Skyrim, and a whole lot of other fights where his “favorite” lost)
B:
T-THEY WANT TO GET BACK INTO DC’S GOOD GRACES (ignore the fact that this just doesn’t make sense LMAO)
ORRRRRRR C:
T-THEY ALWAYS MAKE THE POPULAR CHARACTER LOSE (Grade A cope that changes more often than the moon’s shape)
Skibidi Toilet won, of course.
*Giorno Vs Joker
post a single plane- no, post a single multi-continental feat from Skibidi Toilet
… the never getting into Death Battle competition.
why would people be surprised about this outcome
just look at it logically: it's a billionaire in spandex vs a billionaire in a robot suit, anyone with the slightest bit of common sense knows who wins that
It will be bullshit and proof that they still overwank DC more than anything. Though now it’ll just look even more pathetic because they aren’t getting paid to do it.
anon, they were never getting paid for it
Ah, this cope, huh?
Ahhh, so you’ll be choosing cope option B then? Also do you think the owner of Warner personally came down from the heavens and gave Ben a 100K check every time a DC character won? Get real.
because they aren’t getting paid to do it.
They’ve always been paid to do it you fucking moron. What do you think sponsorships are. They are literally paid constantly to have characters kill each other.
Viable out bsing via actual theory instead of DC's mess, capability of absorbing/redirecting ring and LE, and audio drama bs making him "outerversal"
Based on their DBcast I wouldnt be surprised if that is how Simon wins. Either Simon's setting portrayal being "stronger" than DC due to not ultimately being treated as on paper, or they go into audio book Simon and have him as above The Source Wall / paper
question: does anyone actually enjoy all the multiversal wanking?
feels to me like it makes 99% of what makes either character interesting irrelevant in favor of taking obscure statements that technically fulfill multiverse requirements
ur mad :)
The nog flaring his nostrils and jabbing at his camera looks a lot more frustrated then the white man laughing at him.
No. Once you get into that territory it essentially comes down to bias
Both you and that other guy are retarded for thinking that either Swan or DJ were legitimately upset.
Retard actually thinks it’s impossible for a company to make one of their IPs shill for them
Can’t help but wonder what it’s like being this stupid in life. Brown maybe?
Thunderbolts seems to be getting positive initial buzz
Sentry episode confirmed.
You are needy.
Ultraguy did a blog all about Superboy Prime last year.
Impossible? No.
Guaranteed with zero evidence other than “THEY MADE MY GUY LOSE!!!!”? Yes.
You faggots think that Warner was puppeteering DB, a subsidiary of their subsidiary that they already didn’t treat properly, so much that they were telling them to have Superman beat Goku BEFORE DB ever was a part of WB. It is the definition of schizo cope, and now you don’t have that layer of defense to hide behind if Kyle ends up smacking Simon silly. I’m ready to see the fallout if he wins. What’ll be your cope? Also what exactly were they “shilling” half the time? The existence of Black Canary? Of Scooby Doo and Ben 10? I don’t really need to be reminded that they exist.
ur so mad :)
Dude, they constantly make the Batfamily job. Harley jobbed during peak Harley shilling. They humiliated the Rock before his movie even flopped.
they had Black Adam beat Apocalypse with an ad for his movie in the episode
Wh-what the fuck are you talking about? Black Adam lost. Are you retarded?
Are we sure the fight didn't happen and they just retconned it out?
Any regular green lantern is infinite dimensional and can't lose!
Because they mess around with the source wall that isn't special at all
Dimensional "scaling" wasa mistake
yes, mildly
ok Jar Jar
shits on the floor
evolves into numemon
eats the shit
screams in your face
So? We gonna pretend limitless Superman, omniversal Zatanna or Hal bullshitting a win against Alien X aren’t clear cut cases of wank? Or Raven beating fucking White Phoenix? Really? Or Thor jobbing to Wonder Slut? Or that DC has only lost ONCE to non-Marvel? I cannot believe there are still retards who think they didn’t shill for DC.
Why’re you using Ben 10 Vs Hal as an example of Warner bias? Who do you think owns Ben 10?
Realistically, Tony should win because his tech is totally retarded, but then Batman sometimes randomly showcases tech that he shouldn't be able to. Brother Eye should not exist. Failsafe should not exist. These should both be above Batman, and yet he just casually creates insane tech offscreen. Tech that is completely at odds with everything else he does. He goes from wearing tights and throwing metal bat-shaped shuriken at things to creating Iron Man-tier robots. Out of all tech-based superheroes, Batman is the most schizophrenic. There's no rhyme or reason as to what he's capable of at any given moment.
Just another Monday at the office...
Imagine if swan unironically says,"just because Kyle never destroyed a galaxy doesn't he couldn't"
doesn't he couldn't
low IQ melty
We gonna pretend limitless Superman
I mean, that one is something some writers for him believe.
omniversal Zatanna
That's what you get when vidyafags (and to a lesser extent weebs) allow for super permissive scaling to get their 9 billion-versal Kratos or whatever-versal Sonic and Mario.
Hal bullshitting a win against Alien X
Thor jobbing to Wonder Slut?
Dude, they straight up thought Hal would lose that fight. Nobody except H.E.A.T. was prepared for Hal. And Thor vs Wonder Woman has always been a debated fight.
Raven beating fucking White Phoenix?
That seemed more like your standart waifufaggotry.
That's what you get when vidyafags (and to a lesser extent weebs) allow for super permissive scaling to get their 9 billion-versal Kratos or whatever-versal Sonic and Mario.
what makes you think the same people who call out DC bias aren't also the people calling out how idiotic that is?
If anything Vidyafags are better at calling out dumbass scaling than comicfags will ever be, look at the reaction within their respective fanbases to Fire Emblem or Dark Souls scaling
Vidyafags
Pretty sure their trend of "muh x universes" autism started with Beerus VS Galaxia
Low IQ hours. I’ll come back when the Israelis and jeers go to bed.
It's up to Soulsborne protags to stop the rat menace
>>at their prime
Remember when they didn’t give Alucard Schrodinger because he can’t have that and his millions of extra lives at the same time, because he needs to sacrifice the latter to gain the former? Same shit with the Life Equation. He needs to sacrifice the LE to gain his White Lantern form, and the fight is literally titled Gurren Lagann vs White Lantern, so they’re absolutely not gonna have Kyle skip his most iconic form
Kylebros…
Wouldnt work and Simon can potentially absorb it
It's not really a DC bias when multiple series are getting it.
And for every FEfag who thinks their series is normal human level (and if anything underrate their guys a little bit, FE humans have a decent amount of stuff to say they're super-human level) you have 10 autistic Sonic/Kratos/Mario/Doom/Undertale fans wanking the shit out of their franchise.
It was bubbling on other vs forums before that. But that was when that stuff reached event horizon.
he needs to [headcanon]
Remember Raven vs Phoenix, when Raven impossibly went from devil form straight to purified soul form? They'll cycle through all forms, and you'll find an tr/a/nime image to cope with.
We need more fights that are just “two normal guys”
most mario fans really do not give even a single fuck about powerscaling anon, maybe you have a point about sonic/gow/doom fans, but guess what, they are more than likely to also be comicfags
the overlap between people powerscaling DC and people powerscaling sonic is almost a perfect circle
I think you are overestimating how many people actually believe those things. Thats just within the scope of autistic powerfags.
Ah yes, Giorno vs Swan; the battle of who gets to be DIO-sama's son.
They “didn’t give” Alucard Schrödinger (in the animation) because it wouldn’t have been interesting from an animation perspective. They gave it to him in the analysis and rundown and still concluded that he’d lose with it. Fucking retard.
muh sonicfags are a-actually dcfags...
Why are you blatantly lying, anon? You already made yourself look retarded crying over DC's win record.
they genuinely are, why do you think that most sonic powerscalers use the comics for it?
sonic powerscalers have more in common with DC powerscalers than with mario fans
look at the reaction within their respective fanbases to Fire Emblem or Dark Souls scaling
Oh please. Both parties had people saying that the stats they gave the characters were downplay. I can pull up ten different videos saying that FE and DS are planet level and beyond, but that would go against your narrative so they don’t count right?
That was more a what if and Swan wanting to jerk off his fanfic DIO more. Al couldnt get it in the set up
crying about using canon sources
This is a new low for you, benpedo.
Reminder that comic scalers are exclusively to blame for the current brain rot state of battleboarding, btw.
So…they gave Al Schrödinger…in the analysis…like I said. Do you realize how idiotic you sound?
They didn’t give Alucard his peak form
A-actually they did but it was a what-if
A-actually it wasn’t a what-if but they just didn’t include it in the animation
He got Schrödinger, it just wasn’t included in the animation because that isn’t as interesting as Al using his familiars or Level 0. But feel free to tell me how Al doing nothing but dying and popping back into existence over and over again before getting mind wiped is far more interesting than what we got. Go ahead, I’m all ears Faggot-Sama.
I can pull up ten different videos saying that FE and DS
Alright, then bring me 10 videos saying Dimitri is planet level and beyond
Well, everything in Death Battle is only within the scope of autistic powerfags (except maybe for 'They can't beat Goku').
Sonicfags are far more likely to be anime weebs than comicfags anon. Also, Mario is so normalfag that of course any autistic sub-fanbases aren't as visible.
mind-wiped
You mean the thing that DIO needed a physical parasite to achieve? Which can’t attach to something incorporeal like Schrodinger?
They literally didn't give him Schrodinger, then went all "w-well even if he DID have it, dio would still win because [headcanon]".
Rope immediately, Swan.
We’re not even discussing the outcome of the fight. You can’t help yourself. But FYI he doesn’t need fleshbuds to mind control.
They did. You can rewatch the ENTIRE episode and you’ll hear them mention and give Al Schrödinger IN THE ANALYSIS and say that it wouldn’t matter because XYZ. He got in the episode, he just didn’t get it in the animation. Don’t be stupid on purpose, it makes it easier for me to prove you wrong.
That one still gets me.
we can't give Alucard Schrodinger because it would be a stalemate with no one doing anything to the other
b-but the possibility exists Dio could hypnotize the centuries-older and more experienced vampire into ejecting the catboy...
You can rewatch the ENTIRE episode and you’ll hear them mention and give Al Schrödinger IN THE ANALYSIS and say that it wouldn’t matter because XYZ.
Nigger, they LITERALLY said they didn't give him Schrodinger because it conflicts with his powers or whatever. Fuck off.
Not to mention Al was capable of doing the exact same trick on Dio. That was just Swan coping
Okay. What does the Life Equation have that will beat Simon? Everyone hypes it up as the one thing that will beat him. What will he do when he couldn't handle using it in canon?
why do you think that most sonic powerscalers use the comics for it?
But people don't really use the comics for Sonic powerscaling. Like, where are the Sally or Bunnie or Rotor matches? Or even Naugas and Mogul for powerfags? It's all just Archie versions of Hedgehogs, Tails and Knuckles. Hell, the only Archie OC I see get thrown around in these circles is Scourge, a literal green Sonic.
That's because actual Archiefags aren't actually a big enough fanbase to powerfag. It's all Sonicfags pressing the emergency power-up button for their furries.
Also, from my experience, DC/Marvel fans tend to be more into TMNT and Transformers than Sonic. Sonic comic readers tend to be licenseshitters exclusively
Okay so now you’re just being retarded on purpose. Is English not your first language or something? Read the words on your screen: They gave him Schro in the analysis. They didn’t use it in the animation because it’s not interesting. There is no reason to assume that Kyle won’t get the LE, because it IS interesting and CAN change the fight, just like Lee’s Eight Gate.
Its basically just reality warping which Simon already dealt with but like "super stronger because paper cosmology!" and blah blah blah. Really Simon absorbing it is more likely
But FYI he doesn’t need fleshbuds to mind control.
Then why didn’t he do it to Jotaro? Or use his eyeblasts on him? Or freeze him upon contact?
They gave him Schro in the analysis.
They literally didn't. They just went "well IF HE HAD IT--" then immediately brushed it off. The entire episode was made around him not having it.
they're going at it again
Fantastic.
>Lost to Samus and would lose again
When did this happen?
I was thinking about how Rick vs Joel might be possible, but then I started to think how would they reconcile using both the comics and tv show for Rick.
Well if he had it
Oh, so they gave it to him in the analysis like I said? Good talk dumbass.
Buh why-
Didn’t wanna.
Buh muh ic-
Didn’t wanna get close.
Buh mah lazer-
Surrounding attack that can’t be easily blocked or dodged > One directional beam. That was easy.
Oh, so they gave it to him in the analysis like I said?
No? Are you actually Swan?
Powerscaling Twitter is unironically crying over this being "Too much"
Lmao, imagine thinking a fictional character deserves "respect" because it makes a bunch of money to some soulless corporate entity.
You show me all these terms for the same thing. All of this is just a multiverse.
Match ups for this feeling?
It will just reaffirm my stance that Death Battle's methodology is imperfect and biased towards treating inherently inconsistent characters as consistent in degree of extracting the most power.
Did they mention Schrödinger in the analysis and explain its usefulness, yes or no.
Didn’t wanna
Why not? It would’ve been an instant win, and DIO got paranoid and cautious the second he realized Jotaro could move in stopped time, so you can’t say he wasn’t treating the fight seriously.
Didn’t wanna get close.
He would’ve frozen Jotaro’s arm the second SP’s fist touched him, just like he did to Zeppeli. It is LITERALLY a defense against close-range attacks.
your garbage last point
He does a shitty version of this against Jotaro by squirting blood from his leg wound to blind him, and it actually hits him. If he did the same thing, but from his eyes at high pressure, it would’ve blown Jotaro’s head off. The only explanation as to why he didn’t do it is because he can’t.
All true vampires resist hypnosis, unless you are arguing that Alu would have jobbed to it, while seras no sold it after absorbing her aussie boyfriend.
It makes me want to scream at times. The amount of delusion and radical disconnect you need to believe that these characters that just punch each other usually are somehow beyond all confines of rational reality. It is also impossible to argue with such stances because it isn't just an understanding of the works but a belief about them.
No. Glossing over it is not the same as giving it actual thought.
One of their biggest rules has always been 'take the characters at their strongest', so muh consistency nonsense has always been the LOSER's cope.
In their defense they're working with comic characters vs anime characters
Comic characters would never win if taking them at their peak wasn't allowed because too many writers pulling these sort of stunts
I wanted them to do it for Slayer SOLELY because of how funny it would be against building-level Chief. It’s like Omnilander; the whole point of the MU is that it’s a stomp, and it’s funny.
tr/a/nime melty
Fine with Chief tbagging doomguy's corpse in the first one because infamous in Halo multiplayer
Now all of a sudden people are bitching and moaning when Chief gets rip and teared by the guy infamous for ripping and tearing
Fags
CH/A/Dnime rebuttal
Okay, I’ll indulge some DIO Vs Alucard stupidity for the tenth time.
true vampires
Neither Alucard nor DIO are “true vampires”. Both of them follow completely different rules and logic from normal vampires. Stop trying to conflate typical vamp mythology with a vampire who can fire cloud destroying eye water and a walking talking blob of edge. Seras also didn’t no-sell mind control, she resisted mental illusions with the Third Eye, which needs to be activated manually. Those are two different things.
DIO himself says that he doesn’t want to risk getting close to Jotaro, so he keeps his distance. He needs to be close to use his freezing touch and his hypnosis. Don’t be daft. Also why are you assuming that he could use his vampire powers on a Stand? Ignoring the fact that this isn’t how it works (Joseph can only conduct Hamon through HP), he can’t physically interact with Stands. Him trying to blind Jotaro to get one up on him is DIO being a petty asshole and Jotaro being caught by surprise by an out of the blue, non standard way of attack. I don’t know how to tell you this, but DIO opening his eyes is way more predictable.
No it predates it. Ben 10 vs Hal was the first time we started getting cosmological measurements.
Maybe I was thinking of "universes sizes"
Capecuck melty
I...What? How did you even believe I was talking about mythology, GOD, I even put the seras example
B-But it is manual
And? Alu realizes that he is being mind haxed, considering even Seras did, and with a far more impressive mind hax, and snaps out
My character is X dimensional!
No one can explain what it means or why it matters, only NUMBER BIGGER!
Last I checked it’s stated literally nowhere that Alucard resisted getting mind controlled.
Alu realizes that he is being mind haxed, considering even Seras did
When did this happen? I could be completely missing something, but the only time a mental attack is done in Hellsing is when the tatted chick attacks the mansion.
DIO himself says that he doesn’t want to risk getting close to Jotaro, so he keeps his distance.
All the more reason to use Space Ripper Stingy Eyes. Especially since Jotaro doesn’t know he has that power, so it would be a surprise attack.
He needs to be close to use his freezing touch and his hypnosis.
He froze Zeppeli’s arm the second his punch landed. It was quite literally a defensive use of the power.
Also why are you assuming that he could use his vampire powers on a Stand?
Because Stand damage reflects back to the user
If DIO actually had his vampire powers during Part 3, he would’ve won. The reason he lost, is because he doesn’t.
Comic characters are strong!
...if we look at 5% of their showings instead of the unimpressive 95%
This is why no one takes capeshit seriously. No one cares if Superman farted a galaxy in one issue if he jobbed to nukes in every other one.
Dimensional tiering doesn't mean anything! It's just mumbo jumbo!
No I will not put any effort to understanding it! I just want to bitch and moan about things I don't understand!
What brought on this melty
Giorno would forfeit.
Imagine needing a brainbug to mindrape somebody, lmao
except it's retarded there too, Slayer is stronger than MC but he's not "that" strong
he dies to relatively normal things such as extensive heat or radiation (compared to multiverse wankery yes that is normal)
he dies to
Slayer has canonically never even come close to dying. The demons literally stripped him naked and still couldn't fucking kill him. Go cry over Gaylo elsewhere.
That heat and radiation comes from a higher dimension
SRSE is an insanely predictable attack even when it’s done by surprise. Both Johnathan and Joseph have dodged and reflected it when it was done raw. Your example is piss poor because Jotaro would be on far higher alert for an ACTUAL attack and not blood.
Your last two points just fail to recognize the fact that DIO and non-Stands can’t physically interact with Stands. He wouldn’t be able to freeze Jotaro via SP in the first place because his frost isn’t a Stand power nor is it even spirit related.
Athena vs Bison is great
DoomBITCH is never getting his lore scaling btw
Dimensional tiering literally doesn't mean anything. A dimension is just a DIFFERENT state of energy. It isn't weaker or stronger, just different. All dimensions intersect with each other and influence one another. Not some arbitrary unit of measure that is wildly inconsistent between every piece of media ever written.
I mean he could do it without the bug in Part 1 when he was super weakened after regenerating from being turned to ash/melting in a fire
Athena is for Heart Aino
Hell no. Real life scientists don't even fully understand the workings of our universe. What makes you think some schlub on the Internet has the authority on how universes work, let alone how multiverses work. It's why I'm so glad they DIDN'T go into it in the latest episode.
When you get to that point trying to compare becomes pointless since it all means the same shit. With something like DC its especially obnoxious because they harp on about infinite infinity infinites and Knuckles only to then go "no wait THIS is actually above all that" and have it be planet pies to the face like I am supposed to take any of their cosmological word salad seriously
Boundless outerversal++++ planets, please understand.
Jonathan literally died from it, while seeing DIO charging up the attack. Joseph was never caught by surprise: the first time Straizo used it, he was facing the wrong way looking at Joseph’s reflection. By the second time, Joseph had already seen the power, AND where Straizo aims when he uses it, so he was fully prepared.
NTA. What I mainly see regarding Sonic scalers is that they have chips in both of their shoulders for Mario and Goku. Not even necessarily Mario and Goku scalers, but just for the characters as a whole.
To be clear as well, I don't know if it is even accurate to call most powerscalers fans of a given franchise or character. Most of them choose who to like and rep for entirely based upon how "strong" they are. They get most of their info from wikias, forum discussion, and glazer videos.
Why is it like this? I'm not entirely sure. Maybe it is the projection of power that they find appealing?
Rewatch Doomguy VS Chief 2 again
Just realize the rat survived and joined Doomguy in the final standoff pose
kek
Dimensional tiering literally doesn't mean anything. A dimension is just a DIFFERENT state of energy. It isn't weaker or stronger, just different.
This is fiction you pseudo intellectual retard, dimensions are a valid way of scaling higher dimensional energy in this context, especially if the writers make it that way.
doesn't know what outliers, PIS, CIS, etc. are
Many such cases "spoon-feed me the information so I can bitch and whine some more"
TLDR me on the rat.
Anon the "outlier" in that instance is supposed to be higher and it just isn't impressive.
why did these retards forgot about batman's prep time? they said they were gonna use characters at their strongest.
the strongest attack of MC and doomslayer couldn't kill the rat
12D multiversal rat, or rat level MC and doomslayer, you decide.
But it isn't them at their strongest. It is some hybrid of their peaks across decades, writers, and stories. It is versions of the characters that don't even exist.
Ah so it's an argument from incredulity then, again many such cases. "I can't imagine it to be higher dimensional so it must not be!" Read a book
en.wikipedia.org
Actually that's what I was meaning as well. They gave Hal this in one of the black boxes:
Hal's accomplished far more universe-level feats than Alien X, such as overpowering the U-Bomb. Based on the greater size of DC's observable universe, this would produce 10 times more energy than Alien X's universal feat.
Also might be the first mention of dimensions too:
Hal's ability to kill Mandrakk proves his ring can damage higher-dimensional beings even beyond Celestialsapiens. While a Ben 10 creator claimed Alien X could destroy a multiverse in "six thoughts," this is not supported in canon and is likely a joke.
My guy doesn't know what composites are
Holy shit, is everyone on this board braindead? They gave Goku MUI Avatar Kaio-ken, for fuck sake
their peaks
So literally at their strongest.
What the fuck makes you the arbiter of character interpretation? Your butthurt?
Why are you using real life examples in a sci fi debate?
cringe
Losers losing (as expected of them).
Yes, after she becomes a true vampire, she is able to resist mind hax, and Alucard is THE vampire.
My infinity is bigger than your infinity!
Perhaps the gayest thing to come out of modern battleboarding.
Why does The Darkest Knight have such a womanly physique?
10 dimensions are used to describe superstring theory (6D hyperspace + 4D), 11 dimensions can describe supergravity and M-theory (7D hyperspace + 4D), and the state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space.
The concept of dimension is not restricted to physical objects. High-dimensional spaces frequently occur in mathematics and the sciences. They may be Euclidean spaces or more general parameter spaces or configuration spaces such as in Lagrangian or Hamiltonian mechanics; these are abstract spaces, independent of the physical space.
Did wikipedia get infiltrated by powerscalers?
Because dimensions mean nothing in terms of powers. How they are used to describe power is so wildly inconsistent, it's a non factor since it cant be defined.
The first time Johnathan was faced with it he reacted quickly enough to not get killed. The second time he was already prepared to block it, in fact he DID block it and saw DIO’s eyes getting ready to fire it, the only issue is that he didn’t know that they could pierce, which is why he died. Joseph saw the attack happening and properly defended against it, which loops back around to my point about the eyes being a predictable attack. If DIO used it he would’ve gotten the piss beaten out of him.
Frieren vs Tiki
This is weird and dumb.
Also a pretty bad mismatch.
Scarlet Witch: So childish. The Japanese really are behind us Westerners.
Green Lanterns recruited Daffy, it's over for the TTGL Gurren brigade and anti spiral.
A foreshadowing that Tom will win Tom vs Coyote
the dimension of an object is, roughly speaking, the number of degrees of freedom of a point that moves on this object. In other words, the dimension is the number of independent parameters or coordinates that are needed for defining the position of a point that is constrained to be on the object. For example, the dimension of a point is zero; the dimension of a line is one, as a point can move on a line in only one direction (or its opposite); the dimension of a plane is two, etc.
Bruh this is the exact shit powerscalers say
They didn't recruit him. It was a laundry mishap
Hulk is a jo...
Punches universe
dimensions mean nothing in terms of powers
Because they are usually relative to characters within their same dimensional tier, retard. Lower dimensional beings killing higher dimensional entities isn't that common outside of comic fuckery and even that's its own separate thing
Well they aren't composites. Composites generally involve taking all versions of a character and mashing them together. DB gave Goku a composite of sorts for the third fight, but Superman was technically only his Infinite Frontiers incarnation.
Well no. There isn't one true peak. It is trying to glue together multiple different points together.
there may be extra dimensions that instead are not apparent because the matter associated with our visible universe is localized on a (3 + 1)-dimensional subspace. Thus, the extra dimensions need not be small and compact but may be large extra dimensions. D-branes are dynamical extended objects of various dimensionalities predicted by string theory that could play this role. They have the property that open string excitations, which are associated with gauge interactions, are confined to the brane by their endpoints, whereas the closed strings that mediate the gravitational interaction are free to propagate into the whole spacetime, or "the bulk". This could be related to why gravity is exponentially weaker than the other forces, as it effectively dilutes itself as it propagates into a higher-dimensional volume.
Ain't no way powerscaler brainrot got to wikipedia
rat survived
You mean lose.
There was an episode of Timon and Pumbaa where they had an argument like that. Lmao
No I see the vision
Both are Knife eared non human fantasy races who lived for hundreds-thousands of years and have heroic blue haired former quote unquote love interests
But if they really want a FE Dragon MU they need have Archbishop Rhea vs Emet Selch.
No. Just that Tom goes up against the far more powerful opponent
Spiral gets absorbed by Thanos like a quick bag of cheetos.
Everythinf about the show is weaker than newtype gundam and thus ain't all that strong
This is valid, just ignore all the blatant contradictions and evidence against it
Are you stupid? Fiction does not portray higher dimensions as some kind of higher infinity more option than not. Even the idea of time as the fourth dimension isn't really related to space.
Then define them on a case by case basis instead of trying to umbrella term it? Seems pretty easy.
Your all talk
And then you have like someone like Bill Cipher who is strong because he is 2D.
Because they are usually relative to characters within their same dimensional tier
Which doesn't mean anything in regards to how hard you can punch.
Because they are usually relative to characters within their same dimensional tier.
What makes a character a higher dimension than another? How can you prove it?
but that's mathematically accurate since for some fucking reasons those mathematician faggots have come up with numbers even bigger then infinite
Gurren Lagann's cosmology was intentionally built on this btw
There was a Space Dandy episode about Dandy's 4D ex-girlfriend who was on the run from her 2D ex-boyfriend who was manipulating his own 2D universe to assimilate anything it came in contact with including planets.
isn't that TOBA just using Hulk's body as a skinsuit with the actual Hulk and Banner being dead
Only when it comes to numbers. An infinity of 1s and an infinity of 2s. Between the two, you can technically say that the 2s infinity is bigger. But with the concept of infinity, its meaningless. Its the same question as what's heavier, a ton of feathers, or a ton of lead?
Tom has xianxia scaling, AND Halo+Doom scaling, it is fucking over for the Coyote.
So? Simon's toon force beats Daffy's
REMINDER
Cobras can kill elephants
Mongoose kill cobras
Therefore, mongoose > elephants
ELEPHANTS ARE FRAUDS
Either Simon's setting portrayal being "stronger" than DC due to not ultimately being treated as on paper, or they go into audio book Simon and have him as above The Source Wall / paper
All this invalidated by dc having Looney Tunes who the heroes matched their toon force and also above the source wall/ paper. Plus they are more respected all over the world studio trigger and dc and dc actually gets fan power from the real world to win any fight TTGL iss still niche compared to DC
Daffy beat an anime writer doing shonen gag shit, so no, especially pre chuck Jones daffy.
these are unironically terrible compared to listroon's
Daffy
Gets mogged by Bobobo no diff
Roadrunner vs Jerry
Who wins
When are we getting a western vs eastern toon force fight
Gets shat on by yakko, wakko and dot, also warner bros/dc
Jerry because of the aforementioned goofy xianxia bullshit
I think Roadrunner technically gets it. Is he ever aware that he's being attacked? Jerry would try to pursue him which would ultimately doom him.
Is anti spiral the biggest fraud anime has to offer? Dude doesnt win any of his matchups?
Who's he been put up against in Death Battle match ups?
AS doesn't have any match ups.
How does he fare against Kyle?
Daffy would win because hes american, and booboo japanese. Plus his toonforce is a power breaker(he literally makes his toonforce stronger) when he's insane and a total pyscho.
Most common seems to be the Anti Monitor because name similarity
Is Bobobo not also insane
Not compared to Daffy.
Show me me Daffy turning into a giant cabbage
Different types of insane. Daffy is the HOO HOO ZIPPITY DOO DA WAHOO HOO HOO type of insane. Bobobo is the type of insane where he just nonsensically flips the script or the entire situation. Daffy pulling that would just result in Don Patch or Jelly Jiggler getting harassed while Bobobo is watching from the bushes filming the toon specimen before placating Daffy with some bird seed that was actually rabbit shit
DC's cosmology is stronger than any anime verse because it's created by Yahweh (a real world omnipotent) who's Jesus in another form.
Depends on who's pursuing who
Is the Roadrunner the type of guy to pursue? I feel like Jerry usually isn't but he probably has a few times.
Roadrunner is Wonder of U
Speedy Gonzales is faster than the Flash and the fastest character in fiction btw
Jobs to any anime verse based on Buddhism or Hinduism
In a sense, no? Isn't the joke that Wile E. Coyote puts all of this effort into catching the Roadrunner. The Roadrunner is completely unaware and unintentionally gets Will E. Coyote hurt from it because he always dodges it.
There is also them representing the collective of a force that wants to destroy the normal universe because they represent the antithesis of life
Death Battle agrees Buddhist cosmology is OP (Wukong vs Hercules) so this makes me wonder why they don't let any verse with it just stomp DC
just realized they replaced monika vs miyuki for big boss vs nick fury
guess its cuz the self aware thing only has so much fight potential
Anti Spiral does not wish to destroy the universe or all life. His wishes to preserve existence and keep life controlled.
Could Kyle or Hal even beat the Anti Sprial?
It makes more sense for white people (aryans) support anime over Semitic derived cosmologies and characters because Buddha was aryan and Jesus was a kike.
The only things Dio has over Alucard is timestop, and his Stand's speed. And then the speed difference wasn't as huge as they try to claim.
hell Dio's regeneration is hardly better than Alexander Anderson's.
As far as I can tell from talk around here they wouldn't be able to do the multiversal absorb stunt so I think they get screwed by the multiversal labyrinth where the rings are gone
Trying too hard.
It is actually decently thematic with Tiki missing Marth, but eeeeh.
Oh fuck, i forgot i should replace one of my matches with Marth vs Aragorn.
Perhaps Lyn vs Kenshin.
solar system level
Anti spiral doesn't even have to try.
might as well put him up against the Chaos King because they're both black
ah I see, I bet Dio also wasn't punching that road roller at full strength because he was too paranoid over Jotaro.
because DC also has Buddhism
wants to destroy the normal universe because they represent the antithesis of life
Except the Anti Spirals don't want to destroy the Universe, they're trying to maintain the status quo because they see that as the only way of peace in the Universe, as opposed to, in their eyes, abusing Spiral Power and risking the Spiral Nemesis (the destruction of the entire Universe/multiverse), nor are they necessarily "anti-life". They were only hellbent on eliminating Spiral lifeforms after Team Dai Gurren showed more potential than they anticipated. They didn't outright murder Lordgenome for example, they showed him the Spiral Nemesis vision to appeal to his reasoning and fear. The Anti-Spirals even put Humanity Annihilation Systems on each homeworld where they could have once again, just murdered all of them. The Anti Spirals are meant to be a parallel to Lordgenome, they don't want to kill for the sake of it, they only see it as a way of maintaining peace.
Why are you debating religion
Their cosmology isn't based on Buddhism.
Didn't Chaos King basically 'lose' to something like the multiversal labyrinth and he thinks he won?
Ah, oops, I guess that's a contrast then
solar system level peak dc heroes