Libshits are crying that their hero is a predator

Libshits are crying that their hero is a predator

Dont care, sandman is still GOATed

Art =/= Artist
Learn to separate.

Not my first rodeo.

You can't separate the Creator from the created. You can tell hes a predator by his shitwork.

That's your problem. Doubt you'll get over it.

No everyone just dropped him

You can't separate the Creator from the created

This. That anon is an atheist.

I bet you're the type who thinks casting a Hispanic in Snow White role is ok

literally who?

Oh, fuck off, people have praised it for decades now

No we need to ban all art and force everyone to live the same life and experiences like in Harrison Bergeron that's clearly the better option

Millar is based outside of his comics.

Art fascist

idiot who shit on C.S. Lewis' work turns out to be an immoral sex predator

Really gets the noggin joggin.

Interesting how you didnt give a fuck when she was played by an italian for eighty years.

Lewis was a retarded christian extremist he deserved to be shat on

Neil "Open Marriage so open my wife falls right onto someone's dick across the Atlantic" Gayman

How did he shit on him?

I'm always thinking this.

but what if he said the N-word? would you separate the artist from the art then?

you woke retard, only you people think casting a voice actor that matches the characters race is important.

Does the art itself include the N-word or did the artist just have a gamer moment or something?

And only people like you care who played Snow White in a Disney live action remake

Maybe don't let celebrities be your role model and seek out real people to inspire you.

he said it with froothing glee to a pregnant Black woman of power!
would you still separate the artist from the art?

The problem with Susan.

we care that you that you snicker and play coy at white characters are being made brown and black, while having heart attacks over fan art that doesnt use the proper shades of poop brown

Honestly, don’t even do that, real people always have a secret they’re hiding. You should take inspiration from fictional characters, at least they can’t hide anything
How good is the art in this case

in this potential scenario it would still be sandman.
do you think it's worse to say the n-word to a black pregnant woman than it is to make a sex slave eat your shit?

Buddy, I don’t care at all what a fan artist does, that’s the whole point of fanart. As long as they’re not harassing other people about it, I don’t care what they do

He has a whole ass essay on his pretentious blog. Essentially, he's thankful that Lewis introduced him to literature as a kid. However, contextualizing the stories with an adult POV, he criticizes the stories for their Christian messaging.

See What people have praised it for decades?

I obviously think the shit eating is worse, but both are pretty awful things to do. I think I could still separate the art from the artist enough to still somewhat enjoy it, though I’m questioning it any time a black person or woman appears in the work given the author’s views on them.

would you care if someone harrased an fan-artist for not making a character brown enough?

Probably not.

Is he not allowed to criticize Christian messaging in something?
Tons of people, it’s won multiple awards and some rank it as one of Vertigo's best series
Yes, that is what I just said. People shouldn’t harass others over fanart, it’s really dumb.

cant wait til everyone thinks its stupid to get upset about nigger.
in 10 years embarrased leftists will write op-eds about how it WAS justifiable the last decades to go after people for using it(like hulk hogan saying it in a private telephone call), but because of the changing race dynamics(whites still on the bottom) its now silly to care about

Just because it’s not the worst thing you can do doesn’t mean you should say slurs like it’s no big deal

people who criticize Christian messaging often have their own messaging wich of course is the REAL one. atheistic or otherwise

no way fag!

Do you think people shouldn’t criticize any religious messaging or just Christian messaging?

Is he not allowed to criticize Christian messaging in something?

If he has something of value to say, perhaps. All works should be allowed to be scrutinized but complaining that a work meant to be an allegorical Christian tale is, in fact, an allegorical Christian tale is not just self serving it's a waste time. I've never been especially religious myself and while Lewis is hardly subtle, it's also the point.

Everything is fair enough game but it seems with Christianity especially there's a level of intentional antagonistic cynicism.

Sure you can. They're physically separate things. He doesn't usually carry copies of his works around, so it's already done for you most of the time.

such a person would never complain about hindu or muslim messaging. it the hypocritic glee in attacking european beliefs but defending even more backwards beliefs just because mostly brown people hold them.
a real fedora tipper would complain about all religious messaging.

I mean worse case argument I might have is maybe not wanting to support such people financially anymore but it's easier than ever to get around that. Moreover comics are a collaborative effort and I kind of hate the idea of not supporting and artist because the writer is a fuck up. So it's a real catch 22 there.

such a person would never complain about hindu or muslim messaging. it the hypocritic glee in attacking european beliefs but defending even more backwards beliefs just because mostly brown people hold them.

I'm honestly struggling to think up a major example of some non Western religion getting the same level of harsh criticism. Mean while ever hack cuck from the UK is quick to shout about how GOD is stupid and religion doesn't mean anything and that vampires are just retarded math geeks and not demons from hell pushed back by faith.

There's much less evidence that MJ raped a kid than there is evidence Gaiman raped his kids nanny.

I think the reason we see more cynicism towards Christianity is because we live in a very Christian dominated part of the world, so it’s the logical religion for people to discuss and dissect its values. Islamic states don’t really allow for that kind of discussion and Judaism is much smaller overall compared to Christianity and Islam. It doesn’t help that Christianity is so splintered and split into differing sects compared to other religions, which of course is going to spark debate between the differing beliefs and interpretations between each one

He wrote a story where a expy of Susan from Narnia (the girl who was left behind on earth as the other Pevensies were raptured into heaven) was raped by Aslan and the White Witch.
Gaiman did this because he both hates Christianity as most socialists do, and because he found it unfair and horrifying that Susan is condemned to hell for the crime of 'growing up.'

Write what you know I guess

The son of a Scientologist has no right to criticize anyone.

Your new pope is a liberal American. Deal with it.

I was more talking about people in general than just Gaiman. Also, wouldn’t that fall under sins of the father, unless Gaiman is also a Scientologist, in which case, yes, he would be a bit of a hypocrite

Is he not allowed to criticize Christian messaging in something?

If i'm not allowed to criticize Islam in a work of fiction because I'm not a Muslim. Then people like Gaiman shouldn't be allowed to criticize Christianity because he doesn't believe in the resurrection.
It doesn't help that their criticisms of Christianity boil down to basic bitch shit we've heard hundreds of times before like criticism of Christians historically not living up to Gods standards, or hypocritical prosperity gospel preachers, or catholic priests abusing altar boys.

I thought Gaiman was jewish?

Fair enough, but it doesn't really help that most of these complaints just come off like something you'd hear out of a jr high student who only just discovered theological debate around the same time he learned about trench coats.

Anon, you’re allowed to criticize Islam, especially radical Islam. There’s a reason people were so happy when the Arab Spring happened or when Gaddafi died. People don’t like Islam but there isn’t much they can do about it outside of wars

Millar has tried to distance himself from the Unfunnies and his earlier edgier work in recent years. I can't find the exact quote, but I'm pretty sure he said that he feels he went too far with the Unfunnies.

jew with access to White teenagers

Anyone who didn't see this coming is a retard

He's a Jewish Scientologist, one of the worst possible combinations.

Just ban religion. Every last one of them is a scam.

So much about him and his writing suddenly falls into place.

OH BOO HOO CS LEWIS WANTED TO MAKE A BIBLE FANFIC WHERE JESUS IS A LION

Atheists are just as bad as fundies now. I bet if Harry Potter was released today, Atheists would complain that it is occult propaganda trying to turn children away from The Science.

Anon, you’re allowed to criticize Islam, especially radical Islam

Not in mainstream entertainment. You'll see a hundred stories like The Problem With Susan before you'll see even one mainstream novel or comic like A Horse & His Boy.

Agreed, anon, fuck that bullshit

anon, bible belters literally burned copies of harry potter for being witchcraft

Ironic considering rowling is loved by right wingers now because she has the very tame opinion of 'don't inject hormones into kids'.

and now gender special people are upset about harry pooter

That's a racial trait

People who replaced their Harry Potter tattoo with Neil Gaiman tattoos are on life support

Like I said earlier anon, people are more likely to criticize things they are familiar with before they criticize things they are unfamiliar with and we live in a very Christian orientated part of the world

wait until you find out about harry potter and the methods of rationality

Yeah. Needless to say it did not age well given what we know of what he did.

I don't really care either way about Gaiman, but the one woman who lived with him comes off as simply regretting being in a BDSM relationship with him.

Wouldn't you?

Ironically, I really like that idea because I’m a huge fan of Clarke's third law

Only in a way that doesn't involve me contacting the press and claiming abuse.

There are actual receipts here that seem pretty damning. At least when compared to say Johnny Depp.

drumpf won

GET FUCKED NERDS

I hated her long before that because she is an awful writer who clearly tries to retcon things after the fact. No, JK, I didn’t need to know that wizards shat themselves before discovering toilets, nobody was asking about that until you brought it up

Drumpf

Ben Garrison art

Nice bait

His miracleman run was the laziest shit ever except MAYBE the first two issues

Is it really though? I mean I distinctly remembering magic saying fuck off tranny.

Jesus explicitly told people to bring him their children.

So clearly, the heavenly kingdom belongs to pedophiles alone.

Ben Garrison art

based

Christ also said anyone who hurts a child should have a stone tied around his neck and be tossed into the ocean.

So...When is Justin Roiland going to get his multiple jobs back?

What the fuck is that thing clinging to the wheel on the left?

RLM fan

Post discarded

Christ is dope
No need to be upset

I'm so glad I never gave a fuck about gay european shit like Sandman or Miracle Man

Never, that’s the whole point of separating the art from the artist. The “artist”, Justin Roiland, was separated from the “art”, Rick and Morty, Solar Opposites, etc.

that homosexual who only rants about banning guns

Sandman is evergreen, so it's not going anywhere. In fact DC might use this as an excuse to start using the Endless more, no longer concerned about Gaiman's wants

No it doesn't the publisher gets the residuals

Gaiman was such a popular author it's not that hard to get his books secondhand, and if you can't there's always your local library.

It depends on the deal the publisher and Neil made on what royalties he gets any time his work is published

Ah one of those.
What about the elderly asian man in the Fleur de leis hat?
I don't follow politics that closely, I can only recognize a few people here.

Read it for free on Libgen

They were all too happy to throw her a parade over that gay dumbledork shit too

Darkhorse apparently cancelled reprints of the comics he did with them because they didn't want to give him money.

The thing is she's a very progressive woke person. She just falls short of being a perfect woke ally because of one bad belief.

How long until he shifts course and tries to milk conservatives now? Lib turn sex pest love to try and milk the conservative right. I can't blame them though because it usually works. Say something about cancel culture and freeze peach and they'll throw money at you. Hell at this point you can scream nigger at a retard and they'll give you a fortune.

I give him 2 years to let the allegations die down before he switches

Looks like James Carville. He's not Asian, just squinty.

Fuck me, you're right. Zyklon Ben just decided to draw him like a railroad worker I guess.

You're missing out on a lot of great comics.

Would you rather they downplay his actions?

Libshits are crying that their hero is a predator

Sorry but no, that's not how it works. What they do now is to push the "he was always creepy" and "early signs of problematic content / right wing ideology" #heforshe #pride #yesallwomen

Have you ever lived outside of the West? I have. No one in Southeast Asia is cynical about Buddhism (or Islam, depending on the country). My wife is Indian and while she's /nominally/ Hindu (as in she celebrate Christmas, eats beef and really only cares about Hinduism for festival days) and even she's not cynical towards Hinduism. I doubt anytime raised Hindu actually is.
Christianity is uniquely derided by both outsiders and former adherents. Judaism is, too, but to a far lesser degree. I noticed this long ago and I'm not really sure the reason. It can't be strictness. Islam is strict and Muslims aren't cynical towards their faith. So what the hell is it any Christianity that makes people turn against it as they do?
I've started to think that cynicism and skepticism are just uniquely white attributes since black and brown Christians are all about their faith.

didn't want to pay for the work they commissioned

If true, what pieces of shit.

Todd won

sells angela to marvel

the cuck deserves what he got

Hillary seething behind the window because she never got "her turn" while Biden is just innocently standing there not knowing what's going on

Kek that got me
She was always a one trick pony with a really good trick. I would compare her to George Lucas but then I remembered Indy.

Well Buddhism is because it’s not really that organized of a religion, it’s mostly just based on one man's teachings. I’m not sure about Hinduism though, though I assume a former adherent of more strict Hinduism would be more cynical towards it
Her one trick isn’t even that original or good, Hell, Gaiman basically told the exact same story before she did in The Books of Magic which itself was just a take on The Once and Future King

In the West at least? Because Christianity hinges heavily on evangelizing and the people who do the most aggressive evangelizing are fucking obnoxious.
Also the more you hang out with hardcore evangelicals, the more you notice they can get really cult-like. Particularly the 'born-again' types who turned to Christianity when they were at their lowest and needed a sense of meaning. I went to a church session made up of born-agains and it was actually fucking uncomfortable because they started breaking into tears and throwing themselves on the ground and stuff.
In-and-out of church they all acted the exact same with these bright smiles and overly friendly demeanors. But at the same time, they'd gladly start talking about the horrors of hell that await everyone who hasn't properly turned to Christ. Because that's how souls are saved
Then it's like, you have this really hypocritical sense of judgment when you get to that area. It's all extremely drama prone and they'll basically keep that aggressively friendly demeanor while purity spiraling and talking mad shit to whoever they feel fell short of the standard.

"You've sinned and need to repent before God and this time you need to genuinely turn to him because we don't think you're genuinely saved because Calvinist shit.

Oh? That sin I did last week, I already apologized to God and he forgave me and I'm saved. Trust me, it's you who has the problem and I'm just saying that to help save you."
I saw them doing this shit to each other.
Basically, a lot of ex-Christians and other sects have learned to hate Christianity because people cannot stand a lot of the hypocrisy and judgmental behavior