Well, batfags?
Well, batfags?
why doesn't Punisher kill villains that matter?
Punisher is right, batman is mentally ill to a degree which makes him a compelling character too but no kill is retarded
Because money.
Because that's not fun.
Cause as much as he rags on guys like Daredevil and Spider-Man for not killing their supervillains, it's not like he's actually capable of handling them himself without taking them by surprise
Because he isn't used like that; See Punisher Kill Krew.
Economy of scale, with no limit:
If you kill 2 killers then there is only 1 killer remaining. Kill as many killers as possible.
Infact to maximize your economy kill all the killers then kill yourself, then no killers remain.
Anyway this position is a retarded strawman. He doesn't avoid killing out of some retarded moral position, he avoids it out of an emotional block, but realy the writers are just retarded, period.
Irl you don't execute a violent criminal out of either, or even as a deterent. You execute them to specificaly prevent thier action in the future. Prison doesn't contain them, and reform is a hippie fantasy.
Anyway capeshit is retarded. "The Boys" is so much more likely, as individuals are driven by desire and passion way more than ideals, but even it is fucking retarded.
People who ask “why doesn’t Batman just kill his bad guys” or “why doesn’t Bruce Wayne just use his money to help Gotham?” keep forgetting it’s inherently ridiculous to hold fictional comic book characters made to sell lunch boxes and action figures up to real world standards.
But I’ll humor the idea. If there’s anyone who should actually put supervillains to death it should be the city of Gotham itself.
Batman gives them literal terrorist who casually commit war crimes like it’s a hobby on a silver platter and they don’t have the common sense to give them the death penalty.
The Joker would’ve been put 6 feet under by now hefor the events of The Dark Knight movie alone.
If Batman was cool, he'd kill the Joker himself. But hes a bleeding heart type obsessed with "the better way" like all lefty heroes. Luke Skywalker ruined heroes forever.
Batman already goes well above and beyond by personally stopping the clown. The fact people expect some nut in a batsuit to carry state executions cause they're too impotent to condemn him themselves to death is infinitely more pathetic.
They are only impotent because they have been trained that way from birth, and ironically they are more likely to be executed by the state than the madman.
Wanting a hero to do the dirty work makes everyone part of that pathetic classification.
because punisher is maga serial killer
if you're a superhero you HAVE to go full Batman OR full Punisher
??? He never liked Punisher and it only got worse when he took one of his web shooters and used it to help kill a bunch of people.
like all lefty heroes
More like nerd heroes. Nerd heroes are aimed at nerds who believe in that cartoon bullshit. But Keaton's Batman for example kills because the movies were aimed at a mainstream audience who expects their heroes to kill the bad guys. Comic Batman is Batman for dorks. Movie Batman is Batman for normal people.
Wanting a hero to do the dirty work
Thats the entire point of a vigilante. To take the law into their own hands since the law and the people behind it aren't gonna do what has to be done.
Shut up faggot
He literally beats sense into people anon. How is that not admirable? It's like shock therapy but you are using kinetic feedback to reconfigure the brain
I would agree with you...were it not for the fact that civilians in superhero comics honestly and genuinely put in far more effort into murdering superheroes than they ever do with the supervillains. Like how in Civil War, when the civilians put far more effort into beating the shit out of the Human Torch and screaming at how bad the superheroes were, instead of focusing on the fact that the state officials were letting shitheels like Nitro keep getting let out of jail by the police to blow up schools in the first place.
You're talking to children. Oh they have the body of adults but their minds are purely infantile. No they're sub infantile because even a child understands why SUPER HEROES don't kill bad guys. And the answer is simple. Because they're super heroes. And anyone who can't understand something that simple is an emotionally stunted simpleton with a backwards idea of what maturity means. They're retards who are trying to act like they got one up on a genre that even babies understand and are so thin skinned an petty that they feel they need to warp and justify things nobody else cares about.
They're both ridiculous.
Yes I agree
That's more like a Chinese communist struggle session.
In that scenario the supers have misplaced morals, and the state is sanctioning thier abuse by the mob.
The main reason I can't take capeshit seriously is thier childish handling and description of the game of power, social physical and political, and thier absolute aversion to long term narative consequences
Batman never said that.
I'll totally kill a drug dealer just providing for his family but I'd never kill a named terrorist killing for fun
that's realistic
just providing for his family
yeh by ruining other families with drugs, what a family man!
How about that time when they were depicting the lead up to Days of Future Past and Spider-Man just let the racist mob beat him to death?
Projection of the libtard authors
There's an in-between.
Uncle Ben never said with great power comes great responsibility either.
Struck a nerve?
The Punisher quote is real though
Sidekicks?
Y'know Batman, call me crazy, but I feel like there's a teeny tiny difference between a killer that killed one person and a person that continuously kills and tortures large groups of people in rapid succession.
That's just me, though. I don't wanna kill your enlightened centrist vibe.
Has any batfag villain actually been redeemed long term? Is it just Catwoman?
I think Harley got a redemption arc in one of the TV series but I can't think of any others.
I doubt they've stuck or maybe they were alternate universes, but I remember reading that Penguin and Riddler became more like informant chartacters.
It's always boring faggot meta conversations about comic books rather than the story in the comic
When did they both say that?
Jesus Christ if I was sent to that dimension I’d pray for death. Punisher is just a fucking faggot that wants to shoot the bullet himself
That's why you kill two killers
He's a weakling in the verse, I think the most important villain he killed in canon was stiltman
World's most successful mass murderer.
Also an Avenger btw.