To be honest this has always been the case. Miles has always been the top of his Generation with Kamala getting close before fading and Sam being a distant 3rd, with very real potential of being replaced at any time if any hero started to come up
The Legacy Trio
Pushed ≠ popular
No one cares about Miles, I haven't seen a single person list him in their Rivals heroes wishlist
I don’t get why they tried to force this trio so hard when none of their predecessors have ever had any serious interactions
Which is unfair because Nova had the best run
It's not really about their predecessors
It's about who they are and what they represent to their generation
Tbf that feels like a gameplay thing too since he'd just be Peter with lightning.
You know what's weird? I have the collected edition of his first appearance because I bought it at a scholastic book fair in middle school.
That shit wasn't lightning, it was literally just like, the static bio-electricity Spiders make in their hairs sometimes
He has never been pushed in any capacity.
They popped up around the same time.
"I'm defined by my fanboyism and how by my very design I'll always exist in my idol's shadow?"
He has never been pushed in any capacity.
Spider-Man and Nova teamed up a few times back in the day
Since when was Kamala intersting!?
I just don't get why is she popular? Marvel just gave her the most popular and hot character name that is all.
She had her own series that essentially took her out of New York and into her own neighborhood to have her own rogue's galleries and local conflicts. That was enough for a lot of people in those days.
not saying much
Because everyone that plays rivals already hates playing with Spider-Man players
Why would anyone ever put Miles in Rivals? His playstyle would be virtually identical to Spider-Man.
Yep. Already confirmed Spider-office was under AT MINIMUM, a soft embargo for over half his creation. It's why they often passed over Miles in favor of Kamala to become 'the face' of the generation, Her property was completely owned by Marvel/Disney. They had a financial interest in seeing Miles fail (Thus damaging the Spider-man brand allowing for an easy purchase) and Kamala succeded (Alternative revenue if purchase works or fall back if not).
Miles has never been pushed.
He was never pushed
The first full length animated Spider-Man film was based on him. Purely because the film makers wanted to push black Spider-Man. He's the ultimate and most annoying diversity hire
The film was also greenlit a mere 4 years after his creation, with the subsequent films greenlit during the first film's development. The movie ended up debuting in 2018, the same year as the PS4 game where Miles was also featured.
The same year that Stan Lee and Steve Ditko both died.
To say he wasn't pushed is retarded at best, malicious at worst. Especially considering the fact that his useless ass is still around, clinging onto the name of Spider-Man like a tumor despite not having the sales to match his supposed "popularity".
Ben Reilly had the decency to bow out after a few years. When's Miles gonna do that, I wonder.
Ben Reilly had the decency to bow out after a few years
And keeps being brought back as a punching bag
When's Miles gonna do that, I wonder
Not for a good long while, since Marvel's not going to risk shitcanning the black spider-man, nevermind that nobody would give a fuck if they did the same to the asian or latina spider-girls
Miles appears or is mentioned in every single Spider-Man property ever since his debut
lead of the first ever animated Spider-Man film
his own fucking game
not pushed
Faggot.
not pushed
And keeps being brought back as a punching bag
But not as "Spider-Man".
Which gives me an idea: let's kill Ben off for good, have him rest in peace and all that, and make Miles the new Chasm. Then he can have a shiny new costume and all the crazy powers he wants and all the hype moments and aura that his mill--thous--dozens of fans go apeshit over on twitter.
I will accept my accolades now, Marvel.
you aren't supposed to point that out or how every character hates Peter but loves Miles and he keep getting powers ups and doing anime/videogames references to try getting more sales (but not working)
How about Ben and Peter both die and Miles stays as Spider-Man?
And then Marvel finally goes bankrupt...a brilliant stratagem, I like your style. Let's crash the plane with no survivors.
Ben was different. The clone storyline was seen as needlessly complicated and embarrassing. For some reason everyone is okay with the multiverse origin for Miles. He's got a popular video game and a popular movie series. He has a reasonably popular solo series. You should be asking when the fans will tire of Miles, not when Marvel will "bow out". They'll stop pushing him when normies stop buying his media.
has never been more pushed
They'll stop pushing him when normies stop buying his media
But they aren't buying it. His numbers are pitiful across the board, from his comics to his games to even his movies. Couldn't even outsell TASM2.
Where are all those mythical "Miles fans" I keep hearing about that couldn't make his game outsell the first game, even when they counted PS5 bundles as actual game sales? Where are those fans that can't even keep his book in the top 50 while USM casually places near the top pretty much consistently?
I keep hearing about "Miles fans" but I ain't seeing them. Outside of posting hype moments and aura on Xitter and calling everyone racist, that is. Oh and wishing death on Mayday and Bailey for perceiving them as threats to their darling (whose shit they don't buy anyway).
And even then it was clear that Marvel wanted her thrown to NYC with the rest of the universe ASAP.
while USM casually places near the top pretty much consistently?
Even ASM despite being universally considered shit right now hits the top 10 every week without problem
No, no, see, the next step is making it mandatory to buy their comics. Don't you know what this is all really about? Establishing complete control over the cattle's minds! They'll buy whatever we order them to buy, and they'll do it with a smile! Especially once we've implanted the mandatory mind control chips! The future is gonna be a beautiful corporate hellscape! The planet Earth will become one big factory that manufactures suffering! It'll be glorious!
It's kinda sad that this obvious joke post that sounds like some saturday morning cartoon villain shit is unironically the wet dream of most corporate suits.
Sam did more to damage his reputation and Rich’s than the other 2. There hasn’t been a Nova book in almost 10 years cuz Marvel did not want to stop pushing him
Nope, never has. Your disingenuous post doesn't suddenly make it true.
Nta, but what's disingenuous about saying that Miles had a trilogy of feature length films greenlit a mere four years after his debut without having the popularity or sales to match? Because that's just what happened.
Insomniac's second game is the biggest example of this. I can't believe pic related still happened, so shameless.
The systematic dismantling of everything that made Kamala Khan stand out from the rest of the Marvel Universe is still sad
"Shapeshifter? Only supervillains get to be shapeshifters. Heroes only get to be elastic at best."
"Who are these high schoolers? She should be hanging with Wolverine, Spider-Man, the Avengets, etc., not these powerless losers."
"Her mother knows her secret identity? Can't have that, goes against the rules. Nuke her brain."
"Why the fuck is she in Jersey? Nobody wants to be in Jersey. Get her to NYC ASAP."
"Inhumans? Oh, right, those cosmic fart-huffers. She's a mutant now. Oh, and all her friends and family in Jersey hates mutants, so she's got no reason to ever go back there."
I mean, the last one is just what happens when you're a mutant who gets rolled into the X-Men.
You're a lying piece of shit.
Except it's implied that Emma Frost twisted their brains to hate mutants so that Kamala wouldn't want to go back to them, so the whole thing reeks of executive decision just to bury her old canon.
Barely an implication so much as unspoken fact by how Emma Frost admitted to messing with their memories, along with how she manipulates people as easily as she breathes
And then Kamala pretty much goes along with it anyway.
Milesbros been eating good for years but damn Kamala has fallen hard over the years. And Sam just never took off.
featured in media equals push
Are you fucking retarded? Do you know the difference between in demand and pushed? Miles popularity is organic.
Miles at least has been riding on the coattails of the rest of the spiders. Kamala's had to deal with the fact she's named after someone who has a very dicey reputation (aka people who like Carol Danvers love her and people who hate her loathe her). Sam I think most people barely remember outside of that Spider-Man cartoon he was in, and people remember him more for being a snotty asshole there. Or they use his existence to get easy dunks on Jeph Loeb, who named Sam after his own dead son.
Hey, friend. I noticed you keep ignoring these Is it because they don't fit your retarded narrative?
Nice "organic" fanbase he has, one that seemingly doesn't even buy his own stuff.
Nice selfie.