Anyone else really dislike how much of modern batman media seems determined to revise the history of Thomas and...

Demoralization, plain and simple.
He's a redditor. That's why he unironically uses the term "media literacy" too.

yeah, but what triggered it there too? Because it seems to be intentional.

But that’s what he said, why are you telling him to shut the fuck up?

Anon it's not directed at OP, it's to people who keep trying to do more with the tragedy obviously

At least elaborate.

Sophisticated modern folx don’t want these 2d characters with flat motivations

That for literal children (or incel manchildren like OP)

they should instead reveal that were once former super spies that went on dangerous missions

The one movie? Told from the point of view of a mentally ill person? Adapting the character of a chronic liar?

Troon flag.

Then why do these sell less than the simple ones, and why does everybody except the creators hate them?

Same with their deaths being recontextualised into some grand conspiracy rather than just bad luck

ye the bronze age did it better, thinkin' about it

(also)

They are rich white people so they aren’t allowed to be genuinely good people who are philanthropists doing their best for Gotham

combining this with more recent issues involving batman workin' in a cabin; there's definitely a push to make him less of a rich man

and while i understand why that is; it definitely removes the idealistic aspect of batman; the idea that a rich person would use their privilege for good

(and the same goes for his parents, too)

I find it funny that Anon Babblefags will pride themselves on being bigger fans of comic book shit or knowing the storylines better but screech at the words "media literacy"

Stfu chuddy

fantastic argument

hulk just holding the gun with no way to actually fire it but still the gun smokes

so stupid, i love it

Ideally Batman should be about Bruce Wayne trying to use his money and influence to fix Gotham, while Batman is buying him more time. Then you give Joker motive, instead of alluring he is insane beyond anyone's understanding. No, you have Joker trying to push Gotham to its limits and decent to chaos, because that is the only sensible answer to the horrors the city pushes upon its citizen. All the costume villains are Gotham's victims, inspired by Batman to fight back, but then end up beaten and locked by him. And then the system spits them back out, which is fine since it still buys Bruce time to fix everything.

Batman should be about Bruce pushing his parents guts back in while Bruce runs to call for help. Just senseless battle to fix something that is dead.

I was thinking the same thing and it's bizarre when a children's book series with characters named shit like Captain Widdershins and Esmé Squalor has a more realistic portrayal of rich, dead parents and their children coming to terms with the fact that they were humans and, as humans, weren't always entirely good but still generally tried to do right.
And I agree re: Joe Chill.
My issue is that the reader never learns anything new about them that makes them seem good. All new information always paints them negatively. That Cobra Kai show portrayed Mr Miyagi as a killer and thief in its last season only to reveal in the last few episodes that the death was accidental and why Miyagi switched to defense-based karate and the "theft" was him taking back a necklace stolen from his wife by a guard at a Japanese internment camp. He's s good guy who did had things. But everything new we learn about the Waynes, particularly Thomas, makes them seem monstrous.

Ive heard the argument that if he really wanted to use his wealth for good, he would follow the Black Panthers' lead and pay for medical care for poor people and breakfast to school children in low income areas. Y'know. Things like that.

Has the fact that Thomas was a doctor been memoryholed? Feels he's just a generic businessman now.

Now that I know Steve Rogers and the Hulk go around killing black dads, I feel dunking on fatherlessness in their culture is in bad taste.

The Batman does this somewhat, alluding to Thomas Wayne being in on Falcone's operation and then Alfred refutes it.

I like hot the film clarifies that Thomas had a lapse in judgement but he tried making up for it quickly and that his mistakes didn't directly define him as a bad man, and that the conspiracy behind the Waynes' murder will never be known and might not be a conspiracy at all

Except he does do shit like that.

The real problem is quality control on what narratives make production. Edginess for some ungodly reason seems to sell more comics so even stories that are fucking terrible get produced so long as they are edgy.

So I guess what's really to blame is the general public for having no fucking taste.

Fuck rich people

Oh no won't someone think of the poor rich white people

2026 is coming for you chud

Even back in the 50's, Finger revealed that the murder was an inside job y Lew Moxon. Ther'es a 70's comic about Bruce finding his father may have been corrupt- it's ultimately a fakeout but the idea isn't new. It's inevitable that there would be conspiracy attached to a killing like that- even in Finger's day rich people weren't being killed without some greater motive beyond fast money

Poor fags entire stance is that all rich people should give everything they have to everyone else.

only a social science retard would think that this will have any serious effect on the general crime level

On one hand I think that it’s really cool, on the other it’s a wonder nobody, Jim especially, connected the dots after this incident

I genuinely like your approach. It would be a novel way to see Batman

He already does? Like 9/10 there’s a soirée, or gala, or any event it happens because it’s a charity funding where Bruce Wayne bankrolls most of it. And those happen like almost every week. At that point I’m pretty sure he gave back to the city more than the government.