THE POWER!!!
Death Battle
Behave and be cordial to each other. That is an order.
THOR wins in terms of being able fuck black women HARDER!!!!
Who are these guys? They're not batman or spiderman
Alex Ross is fucking great.
I think another problem is that nothing implies it boosts his mass. he'll just be a glass cannon. that and again, it will drain the ring faster while simon's power will remain the same. not to mention, he can just keep absorbing constructs to build up more spiral energy
Kyle is making a 30 quintillion light year sized mech and squishing Simon like a bug
But GL was able to take the anti sprial's drill!
Yeah, but he never dealt with something that size and there's no way to prove he could handle that
But making a construct solar system size fried the GL ring
But this is the White Lantern Ring, it can do so much more
Who wins this?
Captain Hero and it's not even close. Homelander should be fighting Mr Incredible or Tighten.
Spider-Man is only for the ninja turtles if he comes back.
But this is the White Lantern Ring, it can do so much more
bruh
Captain Hero was able to fight Magneto.
I still think Simon's only wincon will be the power drain
it allows em to just say that kyle would have been able to uberstomp if it wasnt for "that one lil thing..."
Homolander should be left out of DB because he's so weak and pathetic.
Not holding back Spider-Man rips them all in half like tissue paper.
The only matches here that don't suck are Fury vs Big Boss, Magik vs Phoenix Ikki, Sentry vs Gemini Saga, and Lilith vs Dark Pit.
Yeah. He's strong in his own world. There's no good MU that doesn't just utterly humiliate him either by being way too overpowered or being another coughing baby to show how low he is in the grand scheme of things.
Idrc who wins
I just like the match because of how iconic and widely celebrated both are. The TMNT are the only other high A-listers that Spidey could go up against aside from Batman who he already fought.
Yeah exactly, he's a big fish in a really small pond and he's supposed to be the strongest one there. It's why bringing The Boys into DB is just stupid. They all get stomped immediately. Fuck the supers there can be hurt by regular bullets or pieces of debris. They're that weak.
Tighten wins because Syndrome has no way of killing Tighten. His best bet is to just keep Tighten suspended in the air forever which kinda counts as a win but Tighten wouldnt die. Tighten can speed blitz and just punch a hole in Syndrome or kill him with his laser eyes.
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Doesn’t the guy with the less impressive preview usually win? In Slayer’s preview they basically just said he kills demons and nothing else.
Kyle is making a 30 quintillion light year sized mech and squishing Simon like a bug
There's nothing saying that the larger mech would simply destroy Simon, if the mech is just a construct like every other one, then it's no different than Piccolo using his giant form in DB Super Hero, where all it does is amplify his size without affecting stats.
Yeah, but he never dealt with something that size and there's no way to prove he could handle that
Do you know the fucking size difference between the Anti-Spiral Giga Drill Break and BASE Gurren Lagann? Astronomically large
But this is the White Lantern Ring, it can do so much more
Like?
This would be like Gohan killing the Cell Jr's.
Spider-CHADS, our HERO stays winning.....
ok i will roast your bad terrible horrible li-
Mmm, these are pretty good. Aside of some odd ones like House vs Walter.
Glad you like Aigis Kosmos
Spider-Man 616 or Ultimate would honestly beat Gohan to a pulp desu
ewww i stepped in loser!
W-Who the hell....are you calling loser?!
simon grows sttgl bigger and bigger until ot matches Kyle
that'd be kino
Both of the current threads are led by CHADvel HEROES
FUARKKKKKK
It would be fucking brutal if Simon just drilled right through his foot kek
Wouldn't that just make the enemy mecha even bigger? When you change a universal constant it doesn't only apply to you.
Since the last thread is nearly dead. Does anyone actually know the context of the planck length thing? Why did he do it? Did it only effect him? Is an inch just technically a light year now by DC logic?
Walter has nothing else outside of ig Michael from GTA5 or Light and I'm pretty sure they both stomp him as opposed to Walt vs House which is comparatively more balanced. Also Breaking Bad and House are both literally kino.
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SHITvel and FLOPc
I mean at least Marvel and their #1 character are on the list
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>>simon grows sttgl bigger and bigger until ot matches Kyle
Kyle would be 3 million times STTGL's size.
It's from Anarky (1999) #3, I'm trying to find a way to read it online
Oh wow and that's still nowhere near the gap Super Granzeboma was to Gurren Lagann AND Simon could just absorb said energy construct and turn it into his own to use!
STTGL's size is immeasurable due to being a materialized thought, so none of that matters.
Walt shoots him with a gun.
There is no such thing as limits to team gurren laggan!!
grows 3 million times bigger
oor the knock off gurren laggan drill is stopped by the little base gurren laggan's like it did vs anti spiral
thatd also be kino
Nicaraguan Baby
considering STTGL is materialized by thought, Simon can just make the mech keep growing with just a though, making the planck size feat useless. STTGL has one consistent size and it's "bigger than you"
Gumball is on Disney+ now
Zaslav is selling everything. Kek.
But we have never SEEN Simon keep making the mech bigger! He didnt keep growing it when he fought the anti-spiral!
his HERO can't walk people to death
The only good Homelander matchup I can think of is Senator Armstrong on account of being a relatively level playing field and not a complete humiliation ritual
Okay now increase that gap by 5 decillion. STTGL broke down at an instant. Is base Gurren Lagann no selling THAT?
Can he do that to Light without Ryuk messing over reality to save Light or something?
Also guns will be utterly useless against most GTA characters
Also House already survived a gunshot at least once in the series
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And he can just run over Walt
yes :D
OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
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Kyle in an effort to be creative and cheeky makes a giant mecha construct reference of some kind
"COMBINE!"
Kyle's construct gets hijacked completely / drained
Actually ever since Kyle upscaled the concept of a planck length to a centimeter. He DID make 1 inch a light year, meaning Kyle is just 71 Light years tall!
Kyle has lost to energy drain several times
Simon can energy drain
How will Swank ignore this wincon for Simon?
Hero annihilates outside of gag fragility. Dude travelled back to before the big bang and fucked with life to turn everyone into boob creature only to realize that he was an ass man
Kill yourself listtroon.
I can tell at that point Kyle would pull the LE out of his ass in a desperate struggle and fire it at Simon's giga drill break. It'll be another "AND I WISH YOU GONE, FOREVERRRRR" situation
applied into the constant
Now Gurren is even bigger
"Fuck I didn't think that through..."
Didn't need to.
He never drained THE SUPER DUPER INFINITY ENERGY THAT KYLE HAS!
KYLE CAN REGEN THE ENERGY FASTER!
JUST IGNORE THE FACT THAT KYLE CAN HAVE HIS ENERGY DRAINED!
and it'll fail because he sucks with it and Simon could feasibly absorb / adapt to it. It'll be just like how they gave Lex motherbox wank only to clarify he had very little experience with it.
I'm not him.
Can he do that to Light without Ryuk messing over reality to save Light or something?
Depends. Ryuk would never give enough of a shit to help Light like that. If Light is investigating onto Walt, he would only write down his name if he knew for a fact Walter was Heisenberg. If Light got too close he would use connections to take care of him. If Hank wasn't Walt's family he would have been long gone.
Also guns will be utterly useless against most GTA characters
I think GTA characters take too many bullets to be facing a normal guy. Any GTA protagonist wipes the floor with him.
House gets shot clip
Or he can just run over Walt
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I think Breaking Bad is a great show but the only good match up he has is a battle of wits and playing dirty. He doesn't have a good MU
Yeah because Kyles ring is losing energy instantly to maintain that AnD use it in a fight against someone as powerful and determined as Simon.
I don't see how they're going to work around the energy drain thing. It's way too constant a thing even peak Kyle gets btfo by. Even Hal's outlier of absorbing back was only with ambient energy and this is against a guy they can wank to have simultaneous infinite multiversal siphoning
Once Yidsney finally buys Dead Company and Harry Potter, we'll finally get to see the long awaited comic accurate DC that its fans have been waiting for.
Alright let's play this autistic game of yours. I'm not going to actually calculate STTGL's size because #1 there's no specific measurement #2 it might as well be immeasurable due to it being a materialized thought. But nonetheless
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1.34 Tredecillion cubic light-years for the Giga Drill
back at again just spamming "nuh uh my mech bigger" and "muh power drain"
Do Simonfags have no other argument for why their character wins?
inb4 cuckspam
Uhh no wait, just in the DC universe! It doesn't apply to outsiders!
You do know that context doesnt mean shit to DB. They are just gonna scale Kyle to the other lanterns and say he gets all their powers and FUCK YOU. He will also time travel on a whim and all that. Dont pretend DB has ANY consistency when it comes to scaling using actual weaknesses for the character they wank.
I'm so tired and we have a week to go. I believe for story structure reasons that Simon should win, but I figure that because of story structure reasons that Kyle will win.
Probability Missiles and infinite Spiral Power growth
"muh power drain"
Is it not a legitimate argument? If Kyle keeps using attacks that drain his ring and Simon can just no sell it and power up more from it, wouldn't that be a wincon?
I know it doesn't but they tend to have patterns and one of those is DC characters getting fucked over by energy drain and compared to those like Black Adam, energy drain is far more critical an exploitable weakness to a lantern
It's actually tiring to hear the exact same argument over and over again. I don’t even give a shit about Kyle or capeshit y'all are just annoying. And the fact the episode doesn't come out until this Sunday blows my dick off.
No offense but just leave until the next MU
nta but i still like arguing, so i stay
This is the Life Equation, it controls all of reality. This battle is over.
I don't care what kind of power you've got!
Who's got this?
I...can't control it! I JUST CAN'T!
LET'S SEE YOU GRIT THOSE TEEEEEEEEEEEEEETH!"
Are you the "who wins?" guy that makes thumbnails?
no argument sans growing exponentially stronger and also having power drain vs most of Kyle's shit
Is that not a basic wincon?
Do Normalhumanwithagunbros have an argument vs Mike Tyson sans "Shoot him with a gun"?
Here's you Simon speed feat bro
Bowser wins even without his army given the past episodes.
Apparently Simon’s higher dimensional physiology would mean that not all of Kyle’s hax would be layered enough to affect him and he also has probability hax that can help.
CHADser can only be defeated by GOATrio. SHITnic would piss and shit himself.
Sonic easily runs around Bowser and throws him three times into the conveniently placed spike bombs. Bye Bi Gay Bowser.
Ah alright gotcha then
I think Breaking Bad is a great show but the only good match up he has is a battle of wits and playing dirty. He doesn't have a good MU
It's a shame because there's a fair amount of BrB matches that I really like and wouldn't mind seeing the show doing.
It's oddly Ironic how Simon would actually pul a Hal and tell Kyle to fuck off
When do you think Death Battle will realize they are making characters into crude mockeries of themselves?
It's a shame because there's a fair amount of BrB matches that I really like and wouldn't mind seeing the show doing.
I think it changes up with Mike or Fring. Mostly another battle of wits but Fring has more connections than Walt did. Though you could argue in a situation like Light vs Walter that Walt could just use Fring's connections too. I'd be down for a more slow paced Death Battle where the mastermind is pulling the strings, letting their men take care of each side. I don't think that's really been done before.
Another one could be some courtroom trail of Saul vs someone else; but that's not really a death battle. Phoenix and Edgeworth use fucking magic so that gives them a huge advantage. But I can only imagine how many psyche locks Saul has. I think a courtroom trail of Saul vs Manfred von Karma would be more interesting. It's a defense attorney vs a prosecutor, both use dirty ways inside and outside the court to win their cases.
They've already been doing that for years. Their whole shtick is having the most ooc character moments in order for the majority of their fights to commence.
How would a Jigsaw episode Work?
The opponent starts trapped in one of Jigsaw's games and has to fight his way out trying to find and kill John Kramer?
Is there even any new jigsaw content coming up?
These are all really interesting points and yeah I think a sort of Death Battle war that's more grounded and methodical between Light's cult and Walt's connections through Gus could be really unique as that's never been done before on DB, especially if you consider that Light and Walt will be operating in the shadows for the majority of it while their closest associates essentially act as canon fodder for one another.
Saul vs Manfred is another one I've never seen before that could work. Most of Saul's TNs have been with either Phoenix or Edgeworth, mostly Edgeworth.
I think Anton Chigurh vs Todd Alquist could be a pretty cool and very grounded shootout fight in the middle of a desert between the 2 most clinically accurate psychopaths in media.
The only matches I've seen for him are Riddler and this guy from Squid Games.
I don't think it's 'death battle' material but the concept works otherwise. It sounds more like 'can X get out of a jigsaw trap'? I only saw the first movie but if they could do that and figure out the corpse was John and just cave his head in while he was still knocked out then that's the death battle win con.
Lethal trap contest
McCallister is for Ghostface.
Jigsaw is for Hannibal Lecter
especially if you consider that Light and Walt will be operating in the shadows for the majority of it while their closest associates essentially act as canon fodder for one another.
For sure. I think people just skip all of that and just imagine Light walking into the high school Walt works at and just outing him immediately while also having Misa by his side ready to just write his name down. Walt crumbles fast but you'd have to get through some cartel or neo-nazis first who have been keeping an eye on you the whole time first.
very grounded shootout fight in the middle of a desert between the 2 most clinically accurate psychopaths in media.
I need to watch that movie, If he's similar to Todd in anyway I can see the dialogue being really dark. I think Death Battle is a little too bombastic to do an episode like that completely seriously but I like the idea of it.
This would be another Light vs Columbo. Fans expect the funny guy to win because of memes but it just ends with two,three, however many fucking Ghostfaces there are just stabbing a kid to death.
Lecter is for Johan Liebert.
does Kevin get prep time?
Maybe they could put Jigsaw against someone used to escape lethal traps, Macgyver maybe?
I think it would depend on the Ghostface as obviously using all of em at once is bullshit. He's fucked if its DBD Ghostface
Wonder if le funny guy vs edgy serious guy fights like these are the result of Toonforce and its consequences in which people will really get upset with you if you bring up that edgy serious guy would be the victor under any serious analysis. Starscream vs Rainbow Dash, most Homelander spite matches, and most "spite matches" against WH40K like Knights vs Gundams are also examples of this
Should be Mystery Inc Fred Jones who stomps
How would you rank all of the Ghostface teams
using all of em at once is bullshit
I'd go by movie rules. If the movie had two ghostfaces, there's two of them. Are there movies where it is just one guy? Maybe just going with the first two guys to simplify things.
DC fags right now.
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you mean batman and friends incorporated, right?
I'd say max two should be the limit given that's what Kevin dealt with Harry and Marv
Easy mode: Probably Roman
Dante Must Die mode: Jed
For sure. I think people just skip all of that and just imagine Light walking into the high school Walt works at and just outing him immediately while also having Misa by his side ready to just write his name down.
Yeah that would just play too much into one side of the debate and would be way too imbalanced to be respectful to either character. I think Death Battle's conventional methods of having their fights play out don't fit either show and that something more like a crossover movie or single season of a crossover between both series' would be the most respectable and interesting way to go about matching both settings and cast from either series, let alone Light and Walt themselves, together. As unlikely as that is.
I need to watch that movie, If he's similar to Todd in anyway I can see the dialogue being really dark. I think Death Battle is a little too bombastic to do an episode like that completely seriously but I like the idea of it.
Yeah it's a really damn good movie. And you're right that the dialogue could get really nihilistic and depressing given their similar points of view and interactions with the world and the people around them. Would be pretty dark and fitting for them to callously get innocent people around them killed in their ensuing gunfight, without even caring enough to notice. I imagine the scanerio could be Walt hires Todd to investigate a drug deal gone wrong which Anton banged up on behalf of someone else.
Knights vs Gundams
Implying that Knights can only win because Gundams are le wacky and the super serious grimderp franchise is stronger
That laser sword piercing through a moon sized swarm came from a Gundam btw
kirby vs luke actually sounds kinda rad
Need a good King of the Hill matchup.
I like M Bison vs Athena Asamiya
Its one of the few MUs i kinda like regardless of who wins
So goes for Comp Ryu vs Comp Goku id say
Source Lantern was draining the entire spectrum
Kyle still managed to outspeed him.
How fast is Simon’s absorption rate, that may also be a factor
Man, I haven’t been her a while.
Fight starts Bobby immediately runs away
Jimmy catches up fast and starts beating up Bobby
Bobby is on the ground
He's hazy from the blows to the head
His mind hones in on his opening
Bobby shouts "THATS MY PURSE! I DONT KNOW YOU!" and kicks Jimmy in the nuts harder than anyone's ever been kicked in the nuts
Jimmy wallys back and cracks his skull on the sidewalk
I think to an extent. Something like Saitama vs Popeye and Aquaman vs Spongebob showed if you the victor's cartoon powers seriously, they're dangerous. But I don't think Columbo really has anything like that, not that he's a bad detective or anything. Just being realistic how the fuck is he going to determine a magical notebook can kill people? L found it out pretty quickly and prior to that he thought he lived in a world without supernatural beings but L is a super genius. The match ends after the first conversation Light and Columbo have. Light finds out his name is fake, calls Misa and uses her Shinigami eyes to write Columbo's name. The Shinigami eyes canonically just make up a name for anyone without one
If you put Light against Mystery Inc then toon force bullshit might come into play and they could catch Light that way. Like mentioned earlier, the concept of Light vs Walter White is more interesting since it would be two manipulators fighting from the shadows. Or another detective who deals with supernatural shit or has a crazy high IQ. Batman, Holmes.
I think people just want a meme video. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing Light grovel and suffer and I like the idea of finding out which detectives are smart enough to catch Light. But this isn't Light vs Toon Force detective, it's Light vs a guy who's good at bullshitting.
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Will this ever get done?
Show me Jimmy surviving getting kicked in the balls.
There's a mini game but Bobby was able to tko Hank with a rage boosted kick to the nuts. Hank scales to Silver Surfer and genie magic so Jimmy probably isn't gonna take that well.
The Shinigami eyes canonically just make up a name for anyone without one
Forgot to cite my source.
The names you will see with the eye power of a god of death are the names needed to kill that person. You will be able to see the names even if that person isn't registered in the family registration.
A rule made specifically for L. You could dance around the idea of 'family registration' is not as big as 'no canon name' though.
Didn't Kyle still get ultimately siphoned during this? They'll probably give Simon multiversal+ absorption which considering the emotion spectrum is a finite thing and Kyle wouldn't get home field advantage anyway shouldn't really matter much
Is Kyle's stat wank worse than Omni-Man's?
Hmm…. Are going for displays of injfnite pwoer or has Simon previously absorbed an infinite amount of Spiral Power? As far as I’m aware the Big Bang he absorbed require helped and the drill absorption was relatively minor as opposed to the peaks of Gurren Lagaan
Simon's should be fast enough combined with his constant instantaneous power growth even without drain. This would be irrelevant anyway as Kyle shouldn't get the benefit of chilling inside the source lantern for this fight anyway
Did columbo vs light already happen in a cast? Isn't it a confirmed episode?
Depends on your interpretation. He absorbed an infinite multiverse (arguably several) and converted it to spiral power so take that as you will
No and it was confirmed as a sort of bonus episode not an "actual" episode. More like a side thing
Define instantaneous. Milliseconds, seconds, microswconds ? I remember the argue made that the Big Bang Ben 10’s Omnitrix reacted to was said to be instant but it lke all things could only do so much in an increment of time
Spiral Power doesn't work like Ben's watch. Its an ever growing thing that can jump to whatever challenge so long as the person has the drive.
Yeah it's kind of vague of what it is. But how do you really analyze detective work anyway?
Okay, is there any feats sugesting it does so faster than someone can feel the drive, like say, attoseconds? That’s still a lag
The death note is a godly instrument, made by a god with unmessurable intellect in the guide (making him being fooled by the middle schooler in the one shot funny)
So even if someone was born without a name, they WILL have a name to write on the note.
It would be funny if in a DN sequel, the new detective doesnt have parents or a name at all, and the new kira manages to kill them by writting down "brat" or whatever the term used by some random when they were a baby
It would probably just take their personalities and methods into account and how likely Light is to slip up given his displayed antics. It's really just going to be a more blatant fanfic story for fun
I'm not sure what you want me to tell you. It's just constantly growing. There's no temporal measurement for it. Gurren is even noted as transcending time as a concept.
by wanking columbo by saying "ooooh he outsmarts people that think highly of themselves all the time!"
and putting him in a room with Light he cannot just have his 3 shinigami eyed side kiras or the kira riot gangs kill him.
I don't really care for WH40K or Gundam but it's very obvious that matchup was solely to spite and show WH40Kchuds what's what, except it fails because I legitimately do not think Knights were even remotely considered as part of what makes IoM, let alone WH40K a 'strong' verse. WH40k battleboarding shtick is solely due to Chaos corruption, and some Tyranid adaptation, Ork reality warping, Nekron esoteric scifi powers, and Psyker hax making it a nightmare for typical characters and factions to exist there so it's odd to pick a fight with random Wh40k mechs to try and prove a point. It'd be like spitematching Yamcha or Captain America to own DBZ/Marvelchuds or whatever
when Gurren lagann crashed into Lordgenome's battle ship that was carrying everyone to survival, it was instantly fueled with spiral energy and they combined in a matter of seconds. keep in mind this was while GL was being assaulted by a giant mugann that was putting Simon through a cosmic electric chair.
I'd assume it'd just be a one on one battle of wits sort of thing. Columbo is just some literal who and gets into a run in with Light so no shinigami eyes or assistance and see if Columbo could bamboozle him
Dipshit you cant just say it's fair to stack things in Lights favor.
Again, instant means… instant. Not transformation sequence, not enough time to shout something. As in, already happened. Transformation sequence means sequence of events. It’s not instant, it’s just very very fast
(making him being fooled by the middle schooler in the one shot funny)
Another thing is the Death Gods just got pissed about being tricked, killed him and just added the rule. I don't know if they would do that for Light though, probably not.
So even if someone was born without a name, they WILL have a name to write on the note.
I think realistically this is what happens but wouldn't WOG be higher than the fictional god(s) of a series? It's a weird question since I don't think that happens in Death Note. L technically always had a full name.
Man that was some bullshit in that story. That dude won fair and square. Shinigami king just threw a bitch fit and changed the rules posthumously
Could sovle the Killa case
No. No one would be able to figure out that a kid was killing people with a magical book, especially since he leaves no evidence of it.
Death Battle has characters at their peak but accepts if something is situational. Misa would be a likely asset, don't some of the other Kiras come L's death? If that's the case then it wouldn't make sense for Rem to be in the picture. Things are a lot easier if Rem is there because if someone gets close to getting Misa arrested then she'll just kill Columbo herself.
kira riot gangs
Ehh maybe, the modern world canonically sees Light as a psycho. Everyone moreso feared him. If you can take away the notebook from him then there's nobody to worship.
Misa would fall more under the category of outside help. She's not like a summon or something.
No, not if the Life Equation is evoked, in particular, and likely not at all, since Kyle has also simply powered back up from nothing and kept infinite charge.
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I don't know how far that idea stretches. Is the LAPD outside help for Columbo? Can he not use them? Death Battles have had characters use minions and things like that before. Light sees Misa as a tool anyway. But things do massively change if he can't use Misa or anyone else.
Kyle got drained even with the life equation and needed to run to the source wall to recharge which would basically be outside help from a setting specific thing so not neutral ground.
Also Kyle can't control the life equation for shit.
Why haven't the powerlevel tards in their audience figured out that's always been the point, yet?
This
L was able to find the kills were magical, how they were being killed, where they were taking place, and how they were getting the info. And that was without knowing Shinigami were a thing. You don't think ANY character could figure that out?
That's Simons energy draining feat? Yeah, Kyle has this in the bag.
Moves slow enough he has a whole speech.
This guy is not blitzing Kyle.
Kyle has the fucking speedforce. He never was.
Favor? Those are all things Light HAS.
He was the L HQ and name, the task force could be sent after columbo and have him arrested as a kira suspect, light has rem, three shinigami eyed side kiras and acess to the world police records
That is just something he has.
Battle of the wits hardly is fair for Light since he'd hae to talk out of being shot dead by the rest of the task force in the room if Columbo outsmarts someone that can outsmart L, who is the equivalent of an entire branch of the FBI. (databook)
Admittedly, Columbo would win in an actual DB vs Light solely because it is a fight to the death where both participants are willing to kill, so Columbo would just shoot Light to death in that scenario.
Unfortunately, Swan would never let the fight animation be like this because it would be absolutely hilarious to have an entire analysis and then Columbo just pulls out a gun and shoots him in 5 seconds
Bowser has transmutation, and I don't think Sonic can resist that in base. So, one good shot and Bowser turns Sonic into a brick. That's if Bowser doesn't get speed blitz.
Do Regigigas and Slaking get any success in doubles? I've never tried much with doubles before.
Btw Regigigas held back both Dialga and Palkia in the middle of their squabbling during the Diamond & Pearl arc of Adventures. He is strong.
Gods have always been pissy in their myths and stories
Do you think the christian god or zeus wouldnt throw a bitch fit if a mortal outsmarted em?
It's narrative talk time dipshit. It's the whole "episode has a bomb about to blow up in 30 seconds and we proceed to spend the next 20 minutes of the episode before it blows up"
so Columbo would just shoot Light to death in that scenario.
if you take it that simply, sure. Pin them in a ring together, Light can't write faster than a bullet. But the idea is obviously if Columbo can figure it out, he's not some psycho shooting possible suspects in the head without talking to them.
Did you even watch death note?
Light has the US president leak the location of the SPK and rioted up the kira gangs to drag out Near and his team so Misa could kill him
The Source is both ground and literal power source. It's not le 'outside help'.
Also, the Life Equation doesn't get controlled - it IS. Your failure to understand this will lead to pain for you.
It's outside help
Pretty sure this was meant to showcase Simon having the ability to absorb different dimension powers he has no frame of reference for more than a "How much can Simon absorb" feat
I'll try to give you a better answer, I'm not sure if I would call it "instant", there's no direct speed given in the show, movies, manga, data book, etc.. We do have Simon saying that he evolves (as in his Spiral Power and him as a person) beyond who he was a minute before "little by little" in response to the Anti-Spiral talking about how they got so powerful that quickly.
What we know about Spiral Power is that its connected to the broader infinite Universe (literally everything), and Spiral lifeforms to access more Spiral Power have to be in sync with spiral galaxies from another (unspecified) dimension. What is described as willpower is a "complex and enormous electric signal in the nervous centre" of Spiral lifeforms, so it could be thought similar to how fast brain signals move
"In Arc Gurren Lagann, Gurren Lagann is turning drills as well. Simon is releasing Spiral Power in the cockpit of Lagann. Spiral Power is the force by which the spiral factors that make up spiral lifeforms are synchronized with spiral galaxies, and the potentials inside the galaxies are converted into energy and emitted. Theoretically, a life can release as much energy as a Universe.* Synchronizing the galaxy and life requires a complex and enormous electric signal emitted from the nervous centre of Spiral life, that is, the power of the will. Life resonates with the galaxy due to the force of the transcendental double helix."
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if kyle is so fast why did he get instantly fucked over by an orc even with the LE and the supposed speedforce. why didn't he just shake his hand really fast to phase through it?
Kylesissies m-m-m-m-m-m-maybe if we try to downplay this feat DB won’ have us getting GAPED by CHADmon’s energy draining drill………..
Again, out of fear. Will Light have time to do that?
Sorry to interrupt that phone call, pal. Who were you talking to?
Oh I was just calling the president to leak your address so my followers can kill you when you come home tonight
Sounds good. Guess I'll go home then.
Was taht ever an issue for people? I assumed we both treated them as will energy
Kyle freaked the fuck out when he had it and nearly got erased and had to give it up. It's not helping him in this match.
I still like him vs Red Keeper
People used it for the meme. It won matchups. I don't know if that can qualify it as "successful". It's a silly niche strategy where Regi becomes dead weight if Weezing gets taken out and Regi can still be crippled in other ways and Weezing on its own is not a great Pokemon.
also regi in the anime is weak as shit
ask for speed calc
simonsissies realize the jig is up
act like it doesn't matter and pretend they win anyway
This is going to be an amazing shitstorm in motion come Sunday kek
He wanted to give it up, anon. Try to understand the difference between narrative and power.
I'm dying to see Simonsissies get humbled. There's nothing they can do but cope and downplay Kyle. It just makes it more embarrassing when it's confirmed Simon can't even beat one of the weaker Green Lanterns.
Any non-PR toku rep possible this season? A Kamen Rider episode is long overdue.
Kylesissies are going to be humiliated when all their scaling gets undone by a simple energy drain lmao
He wanted to give it up
Why was that? He wanted it gone before Oblivion told him what would happen in the future.
I'm sure that will increase DCs sales
If you really want to piss on 40k, you just put Chaos up against a magical girl show. On Anon Babble, its common knowledge that anything other than the weakest of magical girls would eat Chaos for breakfast, because vast cosmic forces of corruption and evil is like the DEFAULT magical girl end season boss. There isn't a single Precure team that hasn't beaten something Chaos level by the end of their show, and they are not even the strongest magical girls.
answer the question kylefag. why didn't kyle use the speedforce here. does he have it at all times? or is it just something he can't recreate without help
yeah but what about the sales???
Concession accepted. Kyle could be dropped the second after the Death Battle releases and it wouldn't matter. They're not trying to make you buy fucking comics, they want to see who would win a fight to the death.
Red and his goons are for getting murked by the Psycho Rangers
The other absorption/conversion feat
Kyle will just absorb it back but stronger.
And then there is the aftermath of the dimension spiral abyss, and the multiverse labrinth after that. Simon honestly steals a lot of power over the course of the show from his enemies.
doesn't absorb it
quite literally just redirection after the cannons ran out of ammo
Okay.
would this be considered light-speed reaction?
seems more like redirection
Question, is it all about the drill because what happens if the drill doesn’t block or soemone goes for the head? Doesn’t seem like a Chromastone thing
If you really want to piss on 40k you pit everything in the verse aside from the Chaos Gods and a few other deities against Gunbuster Space Monsters, not even the most high end of high end 40k firepower calc wank and psyker shenanigans will save them from a species where moon coring level firepower and relativistic combat speeds are standard issue for their cruisers whose numbers are comparable to the amount of total Tyranids in the galaxy.
Both have infinite energy
Both can feed off each others energy
Both have infinite scale attacks
Fight is a tie, they fight forever and kill Chuck and Segata in the process, replacing their constellation
does he have the speedforce at all times? or is it just something he can't recreate without help. yes or no.
Kyle's ring has a maximum charge. Simon doesn't have an upper limit. Indeed, the entire crux of the spiral/anti-spiral conflict is that spiral warriors like simon are capable of going literally infinite combo scale and destroying the universe and everything in it just by having more power than the universe can possibly contain.
Kyle is incapable of presenting that same level of threat. There is no White Lantern equivalent to the Spiral Nemesis.
Right?
They usually tend to at least honor the rules / deal and then mess with em later. SK basically just went "n-no here is a new rule now!" after the proverbial game was finished. Eh in either case the guy still kinda won since he made his family and a bunch of people super rich and SK didn't do anything about that from what I remember
forgets about Oblivion
The Spiral Nemesis is such a nothingburger.
Did you forget that Kyle exists in the same universe where characters fought and beat GOD? Kyle scales to those characters.
Nah, he arguably could but he just killed the kid for tricking him.
Just destroying the universe
Yawn
Fair enough
Gurren Lagann has a Spiral field surrounding it at all times, you can think of it as an autoshield
I agree that Gunbuster trounces 40k in straight military might, but the crustiest of 40k nerds will ALWAYS chortle about how "loses to chaos corruption lol" (despite the fact that, even in 40k, thats not how chaos fucking works).
It doesn't matter what the parameters of your vs battle are. It doesn't matter what faction you say is fighting. They will ALWAYS fall back on "loses to chaos lol" as their final line of defense. Only by humiliating the chaos gods can you break their spirit.
Holy friggin ki barrier, yippie!!!
Kyle has been tossed in mind related traps before and was only let out because of pity.
Did you forget that Kyle exists in the same universe where characters fought and beat GOD?
and? simon did the same thing. he's not special
But yes, just in case, they can make a drill shield, funnily enough
The AS didnt create the TTGL universe. He created a microuniverse which is baby tier.
Kyle is trained by Batman and Simon only won because he summoned a drill. Take his powers away and he's losing.
The way to think about drills in TTGL is that they are like magic wands. They are how power is focused and controlled most easily, but that doesn't mean you can't do anything without them.
Also, Gurren Laggan is literally just able to grow drills all over its body. It does this multiple times, like when it fires an infinite number of attacks off at every moment in time between 10 seconds in the past to 10 seconds in the future to catch an enemy thats trying to time travel around him to force them out of time travel.
Who was bringing up traps? I brought up the literal demon he accidentally created after showing up at the Source Wall.
Big difference though is Kyle's attempt at draining does not refuel his mcguffin and is limited to seven emotions rather than all of them. Kyle will inevitably be reduced to a normie for one reason or another
isn't this basically a better version of the lantern shield since it's automatic
Just that Oblivion did the same thing the Anti Spiral did on a much much much lower scale and Kyle could barely get out of that.
he needed parallax for that white void shit. dumbass
I mean he didn't really trick him specifically. It was Ryuk fucking around again. Kid didn't know about shinigami king though part of his gambit was to ensure Ryuk fucked off completely so Ryuk couldn't warn him. Though lets be real that wouldn't have mattered.
Wil power is an emotion and Kyle will just drain Simon dry!
Well if we take away Kyle's arms and legs and eyes and ears...
that's what you sound like. Kyle gets his best tools just like Simon does.
take his powers away
Can't be done. The drill isn't something that can be taken from him, it IS him. Spiral power isn't something external to himself that he is tapping into or stealing like the speed force or emotional energy. Simon *makes* it, moment to moment. You can't take away Simon's spiral energy any more than you can take away his body heat. As long as he's alive, he's making Spiral Power.
Simon only won because of things he could do
That's like saying Batman only won a fight because he had arms and legs.
Simon's power isn't from a foreign thing. He can generate it from within. The white room would literally mean nothing. Even if you wanted to reduce it to regular no power fisticuffs, Simon beat the shit out of a hivemind entity that could still blast out spikes from himself during the fisticuffs
The TTGL Universe contains the infinite multiverses and has several higher dimensions/dimensional universes
Post Kyle surviving a Big Crunch to the aforementioned scale
it's not something he can just do at any time you idiot. that's the point I'm making
So does DC’s
WL saps away Simon's life
What now?
Is any of this reaching that death battle discord server? A lot of researchers are in there including Ben himself and Swan, I figure if it can reach them it could reach him.
So...Simon can be absorbed?
He doesn't have the LE at all time but he still is going to have it for the fight. Simon isn't always fucking walking around in STTGL, he needed a big bang charge to get it.
They 100% know about Kyle's energy drain weakness they just don't care
Swan got GAPED in the Cast by John's BBC, this is his way to cope
Oh you mean him surviving a 12.3 Dimension Big Bang? Also,
Big Crunch
Exact opposite of the Big Bang
just a universal feat
:^)
Row row, fight the power.
not how it works. he's still human. he's not made of spiral power. he has a pool of infinite spiral energy within him
Kyle doesn’t have perfect control of the Life Equation btw
Pretty much everything being talked about was already talked about in the dbcast. Simon sweeped because of energy drain and just jumping to meet any DC cosmology wank because that's how spiral power works.
Yeah that's what I thought.
Take away all of his tools, all outside forces, and this is what Simon can still do.
youtube.com
What is Kyle without his ring?
straight realities twisted into homosexual fantasies
BBC
he needed a big bang charge to get it.
You're saying it as if he didn't just keep the power, which he did. STTGL broke down into TTGL which then broke down into SGGL which then broke down into AGL which then broke down in to GL and it overpowered Anti-Spiral's granzemboma anyway. He didn't depower. He keeps all power absorbed.
Infinity? Sorry, pal. But Kyle's infinity is BIGGER!
ahem
its his resources
why would he need prep time?
Those are things he has at all times at his prime. Would he need prep time to get columbo to say that if kira gets found out they'll get the death penalty so rem kills him?
How many times do we have to tell you, Kyle SCALES to GOD!
Someone trained by Batman? Simon's a good fighter but do you think he's better than fucking Batman?
He also then directly overpowered the anti-spiral by himself
HOLY FUARK, he is SOMEWHERE BELOW THE ANTI-SPIRAL……..
He created a microuniverse which is baby tier.
literally dozens of galaxies within it in this image alone
You're taking "pocket universe" way too loosely when scientifically it has never meant just "tinier universe"
scientificamerican.com
What exactly makes Batman such a good fighter? Please don't reply with "he mastered over a hundred martial arts" because that doesn't actually translate into superior martial arts skill. Not to mention being trained by Batman doesn't make you as good as Batman.
How is Kyle as good as Batman just cause he learnt the chops?
Robin was trained by Batman and he was beaten to death with a crowbar.
Show Kyle having the LE and Parallax at the same time
Show Kyle having LE and any emotional entity at the same time
Swan…
It's been stated that all the spiral power GL absorbed isn't powering the mech, it's powering SIMON. the multiverse power? Simon. the pool of dense space converted back into spiral energy? Simon. the fucking moon being turned into a Gunmen? Simon.
Didn't Swan have an actual babyfit on the cast too or am I misremembering
Someone trained by Batman
You mean that costumed freak who got beat up by The Shredder?
How big is this pocket universe? I thought so! It's NOTHING compared to DC's universe.
He said generic green lanterns are infinite dimensional because five of them together made a hole in the source wall.
Kyle is going to get Doctor Doomed
Was Rem not dead at that point of the story? Death Battle is inconsistent sometimes but they wouldn't miss something as big as that. Rem is also only going to interfere if Misa gets arrested too. If it's just Light then he's out of luck.
I think Light has a lot of advantages over Columbo and there's no proof Columbo can figure out supernatural shit but you're wanking him too hard.
Batman is the destined child of the Rapeforce
Characters at their peak.
You either give Light everything or nothing if Columbo also has nothing to downplay light, you need to explain how he'd manage to find out light out of millions without L's involment in any regard
Damn, and Simon still won? Kyle doesn't have anything new, why are people acting like muh 12.3 dimensions means anything?
Not really. He was exposed for having never actually read the comics though. Either way he got Kyle to infinite dimension/universal and life equation wank. John proceeded to shut him down and expose context and the overwank while pointing out the ring's critical weaknesses while Simon can just meet any cosmology gaps.
The moment he brought up the energy drain and the factor that even the white lantern ring runs on a charge that has been drained into non functionality, been burned out, and has been taken that basically sealed it for Ben
Nope. The While Lantern scales to every heavy hitter in DC. Its more powerful than all of them put together!
Spiral power isn't something external to himself that he is tapping into or stealing like the speed force or emotional energy
Look dude, I'm a TTGLfag and I think Simon is winning but this is GLAZE. Simon doesn't produce Spiral Power just by himself, that's not how it works I posted this already Spiral Power is connected to the infinite Universe, Simon's growth potential is intertwined with the growth of spiral galaxies (from an unspecified dimension) and vice versa.
The 12.3 dimension thing is probably just a red herring only to go "AKSHUALLY gurren lagann transcends the very concept of dimensions and has displayed the capability to immediately match any dimensional gaps relative to itself" or something.
because 12.3 is higher then 11
Spiral Power is literally just what the Seven Forces in DC are but for Gurren Lagann. Spiral Power is Simon's Speed Force
Is it really glaze if Simon is always exuding it simply because he wants to? It's not something that can be just ripped from him by severing a connection or any such shit.
the 12.3 thing is also weird since it was not stated by any god or cosmic being.
Its "math implies that our world is made out of this many dimensions"
as in, human math. Myx in the whole perpetua saga already said the entire jl lives in the 4th dimension
Allow me to propose this MU
I can't wait for when Martian Manhunter comes back to fight Piccolo or Jiren or w/e and they stay he could telepathically mind control every being across all 12.5 Dimensions.
or Wonder Woman has to fight some female anime Goddess and ends up being so strong she could lift a universe in each hand but they're actually 13 trillion times heavier than our own.
or Cyborg is apparently connected to some conceptual technological being.
The Entire JL will become Anime Soloers regardless of how little that makes sense.
Yeah its most likely just going to be some dimensional philosophy nonsense and tryin to correlate it like how the super spiral universe in function is essentially sphere of the gods level stuff.
I imagine it's going to be (if Simon wins) something really retarded like
Kyle is 12.3D in base
from the inertron feat, which shows a twelvefold increase in power, we can say he's 147.6 dimensional
Simon is 11D in base....
but, judging from the increase in power of TTGL to STTGL, we can calculate that because STTGL is over 400 times bigger, this means Simon is calculably 4400 dimensional!
Or something retarded
that's the best way to put it. it's not something simon can run out of if it's always present in the infinite universe
So...planet level?
They only say that the Anti-Spiral hides between the 10th and 11th dimensions, not that it's bound by them. Novelization tells us that Simon and Nia had become greater than time and dimensions if I recall. It wasn't the one where they were "witnessed across dimensions" it was another one.
infinite dimesnional WL Kyle lost to Simon db cast
Ben thinks energy drain is what decides it
Source Lantern stuff could've changed this but Kyle jobbed again
energy drainers always(?) win on DB
DC in particular tends to get fucked by it
My point was to say that the Spiral Nemesis isn't limited to observable universe level destruction
12.3 Dimension Big Bang
Not a Big Crunch
just a universal feat
Read it again
so ben agrees the cosmology argument is meaningless
Characters at their peak.
But still consistent with the story and lore. They've done that countless times. Light as his peak is after L is dead because he's in full control with nobody really smart enough to challenge him.
you need to explain how he'd manage to find out light out of millions without L's involment in any regard
I already agreed that he can't. Even if he were to confront Light. Light remembers the name on the badge, writes it down and gets pissed when it doesn't work. Calls up Misa and she kills him because.
You mean like here? He's explicitly a 5th dimensional imp. This is him in that "5th dimension" right?
Actually, yeah, how often do energy drainers take the W on this show? Top of my head there's
Wally
DOOM
Apocalypse
Natsu
DIO
I'm sure I'm missing some.
? No?
They gave young solid snake the solid eye.
Again this all is to take away as much stuff from Light as possible
he needed a big bang charge to get it.
Not anymore because he already has the Spiral Power necessary to make transformations like that, that's how they've always worked in TTGL.
does Spongebob count
Spawn is a most recent case. He even bypassed the usual infinite cosmology nonsense.
I don't think its going to be too big of a thing. The main things are probably going to be just like Doom VS Lex
Kyle has all these tricks but Simon can no sell them all while Kyle has no answer to probability manipulation and sheer overwhelming scale with the concentration factor
Any gaps can just meet due to the nature of spiral power and its going to be constantly draining Kyle both directly and through Kyle's efforts to keep up. The problem being that Kyle's power pool is inherently finite with limitations while Simon's isn't.
Energy drain is a bitch and Kyle even at his best has been screwed by it multiple times.
Without the ring's benefits Kyle is useless. Simon has multiple methods of dealing with it whether through energy drain, the ring crapping out regularly, or getting the ring off him through surprise spiral perceptual teleporting right out of it.
But what about the life equation? For one it's not standard and when you actually look into it Simon has a means of resisting it due to how to works. Overall though Kyle has no experience with it and can't control it for shit (like Lex with the mother box)
tldr ring benefits WILL crap out for one reason or another and the instant that happens the fight is over.
Any examples count, I'm trying to see just how prevalent this is
Spawn was even this season, wasn't it?
They gave young solid snake the solid eye.
Old Snake still beats Sam.
Again this all is to take away as much stuff from Light as possible
Light just needs Misa. Why are you getting antsy at this? Rem doesn't need to be there and she only helped Light under specific circumstances. She hates Light.
The real problem with this fight is that Simon, but his nature, is not a static powerlevel. Even if the DC bros are right and Kyle *starts* the fight stronger than Simon, unless he instantly gets a kill that won't remain true.
Simon entered the anti spiral dimension at moon level. In *less than a day* he was multiverse level, his power growing to match and exceed everything that was put in his way.
Kyle is just another wall to break through. If Simon struggles at first, he just gets stronger. Its what he's done with literally every challenge. Kyle, meanwhile, *can't* escalate to the same degree. This is as strong as he gets, so one Simon catches up to an exceeds him, he's cooked.
Yeah Kyle could have 52D and the outcome wouldn't change. Simon will still be able to steal and/or convert higher-dimensional power and either weaponize it or turn it into spiral power
wasn't this when he transcended to the 10th dimension from that one Supergirl comic that isn't canon?
Just because he trained with Batman doesn't really mean much, how much actual fighting experience does Kyle have, because just looking at Simon's limited experience
the Anti-Spiral can fight CQC and uses multiple tentacles as well
Viral can fight indefinitely and has unlimited stamina
and? that still is giving something to someone that shouldnt have it without a care for what you think makes sense for the story
In the death battle server, some retard actually suggested that columbo could seduce and make a deal with misa
wouldn't you need feats to prove that you can absorb that high? that's like saying someone that can mind control a single person could also mind control an entire city
But Kyle has infinite energy. In fact, he has MORE infinite energy than Simon because the DC universe is BIGGER!
Which DC universe? The "main one" or the entire cosmology?
Android 18 as well. Though that was an error, they had her capable of energy draining Carol
I still don't understand DC's cosmology and you don't either.
Spawn's win came from his bootleg penance stare working because Ghost Rider doesn't resist the real deal
Bigger is bigger, doesnt matter
Kyle jobbing in the source lantern makes it a lot worse since not even with home field advantage would it work and just makes him look even more vulnerable to losing by it
u mad? yeah u mad.
Kyle has infinite energy
He literally doesn't. They even make a point of that in the very story he becomes a white lantern.
may i have the grape fla-vor-ice please?
The TTGLfags did the honor of explaining how TTGL's cosmology works, whereas with DC not a single person has stepped forward and as far as I can tell DC is 52 finite dimensions with hypertime (which isn't string theory, but cope to make everything canon)
Simon has feats as high as could ever reasonably be asked for in this regard, everything from absorbing directed energy attacks to the death spiral abyss to eating an entire multiverse of infinitely-expanding timelines. There isn't a bigger scale of absorption to appeal to, saying that someone onscreen needs to *say* the magic number of 52 or it doesn't count is how DC logic works, not TTGL logic. Spiral Power is infinite growth without upper limit, there simply isn't a 'ah, but you haven't eaten something THIS big' technicality that applies to how spiral power works.
OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
0 - 3
I'm aware, I believe that's just how they'll "calc" it. Add on some qualifiers like
even if you think Kyle should be a bit higher because Hal is stronger in base, that's still too much of a gap to close
and don't forget, Simon is growing stronger every second! STTGL starts off way more powerful and Kyle's power is static
I do think we forget the "11D" shit happens before Simon gets a bunch more powerups and DB loves it's unhinged multipliers and calcs where it can.
Did you reply to the wrong person?
ok so NLF? got it
wouldn't you need feats to prove that you can absorb that high
uh sure let's just ignore the fucking MUGANN THAT CAME FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION ALTOGETHER
Situational feats aren't accounted for in a Death Battle.
that still is giving something to someone that shouldn't have it without a care for what you think makes sense for the story
Look at Dio vs Alucard then, they explain why Alucard didn't have certain things. Because it didn't in the lore. It kind of defeats the purpose of discussing something if you ignore that.
Who could Light catch if Rem loved him, he had shinigami eyes, knew everyone's name in the world and became the shinigami king and was also writing the script???
Probably nobody.
In the death battle server, some retard actually suggested that columbo could seduce and make a deal with misa
Okay? He might appear dumb and Misa might think he's funny. But she's die hard for Light, she could slip up and say something but it's unlikely and also irrelevant to what we were trying to discuss.
What makes Simon such a good fighter?
fighting spirit.
Implying DB cares about that
The will give him infinite everything and all the powers of every lantern ever.
situational? it was light's plan to get rid of L and rem at the same time.
regardless, good job dodging them giving young snake the solid eye
"UUUUUURRRMMMMM AXCTYALLY HERE'S THIS SUPER ACCURATE AND REAL SCIENCE THAT-"
Nobody cares. Go back to r*ddit, fag.
whereas with DC not a single person has stepped forward
Because they literally can't. TTGL's cosmology remains coherent because its defined by a singular authorial voice. DC's "cosmology" is a clusterfuck of a hundred writers across a hundred years all making up bullshit that veers wildly between outright magic, supposedly scientific, and explicitly just metacommentary that winks at the reader. There is no such thing as the DC "cosmology", there is just a bunch of different lines of bullshit people have said in the past, none of which consider each other to be canon.
Sure they did that in the dbcast too. Kyle still lost pretty much unanimously
i'd like my grape fla-vor-ice now, thank you.
Gay and lame.
DBcast gave into the energy absorption feat and ben said Simon wins
read VSBW or something if you want that because they're not posting it
if Simon is always exuding it simply because he wants to?
That's not what you said but okay. Obviously Simon could just get more power if he just wanted to, that's how it works for Spiral Power, I'm just saying that there IS an external force that is giving him power from his desire, like the Speed Force.
It's not something that can be just ripped from him by severing a connection or any such shit.
Look, if Simon were really this above the laws of the Spiral like you're saying, then the Spiral Nemesis makes no sense as a threat, and therefore narratively pointless since what you're implying is that Simon is above the Spiral as a concept, something that he has nowhere been shown to be. I agree Simon is OP and very underestimated but his power is limited to the infinite Universe, anything beyond that is wank.
In TTGL, its not a no limits fallacy. Its a no limits fact. Its part of the fucking text of the show. The goddamn rally cry of team dai-gurren is "We don't have to make sense, who the hell do you think we are?"
ok so it's NLF but admitting it's NLF
The solid eye is way different than a character who would help being fucking dead. One is a model swap because it was easier to grab a Brawl model than a PS3 model. Old Snake could still do the same things young Snake could. They showed Old Snake feats in that video. Using Old Snake ends with the same result.
Nigger that's EXACTLY what it is. An NLF.
Kyle has infinite energy
Is there actual evidence to support Kyle's infinite energy spanning across the entire DC cosmology? Or is it just limited to the "main" multiverse?
Magic cloak card victim
Otakon and Batman beyond had bruce as support.
Cope.
Light either has all his resources or none at all and you have to explain how exactly a single agent without help from the police (since the US surrenders to Kira and you dont have any outside help) figures out who out of the millions living in kanto japan is Kira.
Heck, he wouldnt even know that if L is not involved or made any moves, since him having info from what L does is outside help.
can't specify
I win then
I agree with you but that's still an NLF
They are in constant contact though. Light doesn't have some telepathic or electronic link to Misa
see
you really can just apply this to anyone
In OPM, its not a no limits fallacy. Its a no limits fact. Its part of the fucking text of the manga. The goddamn series title is "One Punch Man"
Why would they be in contact? Making Columbo start in talking distance to light is already giving him the hunting down who kira is W without explanation on how.
you can have the lime fla-vor-ice, but may i have the grape fla-vor-ice?
Was nearly 2 years ago, things have changed.
Kyle is Kyle and they will give him everything.
Bigger number and better hax than Simon.
not really? it's a parody but it's still grounded. the point of OPM was that Saitama reached his maximum potential too early.
You seem to care, Gurren Lagann itself seems to care considering how close the show is to actual theoretical physics
It's almost funny how much DB has tried for over a decade to shill Dead Company. Batman and his side cast and rogues gallery are the characters who've lost more than anyone else from that company, and they're the only ones that anyone actually gives a shred of a fuck about.
That was my first reply to you. I wasn't the other guy.
then the Spiral Nemesis makes no sense as a threat
I mean it doesn't anyway really. It was mostly fearmongering from Anti-Spiral's doomy gloomy ass. It's not "limited" to anything.
It was a year ago and not sure how it would. Kyle's gotten nothing since then. In fact he's only gotten more failings to make him vulnerable to the thing that resulted in his loss to them in the first place.
Viral is better at fighting than Batman because...because he just is okay?!
The AS didn't even have an impressive fighting style it was just like something you'd see in a street fight.
Why is that a negative? Knowing many different martial arts doesn't make you a superior martial artist. It's just about how you apply those abilities that counts.
batman did win in their one minute meele, didnt they?
Or was that xvx?
Hank vs Bob
Not an argument
Nobody cares. Quite trying to seem smart because you looked at a wikipedia page on the subject floor 5 seconds. You look like a fag when you do that.
Chainscaling and ignoring every anti-feat Kyle ever had. Like every DC character. Why do you not understand how DB works by now?
Chainscaling and ignoring every anti-feat Kyle ever had. Like every DC character.
Adam? Lex? Aqualad? Harley?
Batman never won OMM
yes he did
So are we supposed to just ignore the parts of the show that says that spiral power grows without limit, despite the fact that this informs not just the powers of the character but the motivations of the villains that the entire plot of the story is built around?
You can't dis-entangle spiral power from its limitless nature, to do so would render the story unrecognizable. Its not a fallacy because its not an argumentative device, its a stated rule of the setting.
Kyle is allowed to have all of his bullshit even if it's contradictory (especially if it's contradictory) will get none of his colossal list of antifeats, will get every power ever put into DC Comics even if he's never used it or been shown to use it or wouldn't make sense if he was able to use it
the entire point of this fight is a blatant sophistry where you have to sit and play pretend that the guy who chucks around galaxies like shurikens is at all even remotely equivalent to the guy who struggles to hold back supernova because the latter guy once did a thing that a guy also once did that can be scaled to some guy that scales to some guy that did a thing 50 years ago that scales to another guy that says is universal in some guidebook somewhere
people engage in a minor NLF for Simon
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S LE HECCIN FALLACY THE RULES OF THE DEBATE S-SAY YOU DON'T GET TO DO THAAAAAAT SWAAAAAN SAVE MEEEEE
Show me Viral putting his "skills" on display.
But Kyle can DRAIN it. Dont you understand? Plus, he can recharge himself with it because Hal did! If one GL can do it, ALL OF THEM CAN!
You've seen him fight before haven't you?
Yugi needed Ash to also use his jobbercards because Pokeballs solo.
no proof
Of course.
Yes he beat up Ironman
youtube.com
tho it seems it wasnt death battle
has Spiral Power ever gotten to the 12th dimension or higher? if yes then it can effect whatever the fuck, if no then it cannot effect whatever the fuck
pretty simple
Bison is for Rugal and Ryu is for Terry.
That was my first reply to you. I wasn't the other guy.
Ah my mistake
I mean it doesn't anyway really. It was mostly fearmongering from Anti-Spiral's doomy gloomy ass. It's not "limited" to anything.
Nakashima literally says it's a real event that would happen
Nakajima: (ignoring) However, I set the Spiral Nemesis as black matter that has mass and causes a Big Crunch that causes the Universe to contract and collapse. But if you think about it, it's the same as 'GaoGaiGar FINAL!' (laughs) So no more! Because it's 'Gurren Lagann,' when the Spiral Power is activated, people become he galaxy! In short, the Spiral Power of the double helix is actually transferring the energy of the spiral galaxy that is connected in another dimension. The infinite energy of Spiral Power is activated by controlling the energy of one galaxy with human will. When it becomes uncontrollable, it devours the flesh and a galaxy is born. Galaxies will be created in the universe as many as the number of spiral life forms, and as a result the Universe itself will collapse.
It was also said that Simon needed to keep his power in check after beating the Anti Spiral
What happened to Simon after the show ended?
Simon is the current strongest Spiral Warrior in the Universe, he obviously needs to keep his own abilities in check.
What do I have to prove? Just look at any fight scene he's in and judge it for yourself. You're free to educate me on how skilled Batman is.
Simon can drain right back, and has better feats both in terms of draining and in terms of resisting being drained. Kyle would have instantly died if he was put into the spiral abyss trap, Simon was able to buy time for the rest of the team to solve the problem by outracing the energy drain with ever-escalating output.
Only gets up to 10 and 11 dimensions big bro sorry
If your capeshittter doesn't have an animated series with good choreography then he doesn't deserve to be in DB.
Oh well
OMM doesn't do research anyway and Iron Man didn't die like Batman did twice against him. So the point still stands that DC's only real profitable and known character gets fucked over the most by DB.
Rest of the team
Friends, huh? Thanks for the tip!
Rugal is a jobber with only heidern as a win, he didnt even do anything in kof xv
still nothing
Gotcha lil bro.
Spectacular Spider-Man had pretty good fight choreography
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I feel like Simon's going to win purely for meta reasons. There's zero chance the team isn't aware that people are getting sick of every DC vs non-marvel ep being a stomp for capeshit and iirc Ben's said before they actively try to find Ls for it but there's always something that pops up. If Simon, Mr. Do The Impossible, can't pull out a win then who does? People will stop watching these types of matches because it'll be boring and predictable.
Kyle's moves aren't much different than what I saw from Simon, my guy
I have gotten to the point that I perceive anything that isn't a type IV multiverse as microscopic fodder.
According to the wank Kyle is the strongest green lantern that can do everything, why would he need friends?
I know it's an event that would happen should things get out of hand but the Anti-Spiral's way of going about it was ceaseless regression and complacency. In the hands of team dai-gurren and Simon at the helm it would never happen. Flash forward 20 years and they're still using it all the time. There was also he heavy implication Simon could bring everyone back to life if he wanted to (which I won't get too much into as that itself was controversial) so not having the spiral nemesis happen simply because he wills it not to is easy to imagine.
because Hal is stronger and Kyle can summon him
Kylebros……. We can’t refute this…….
Simon needs the rest of the team to do anything. So, Kyle wins.
I'm trying to explain to you how the cosmology works in an honest way, you seem hurt by that. I don't claim to be a physicist but even the basic shit like "pocket universes" can be dealt with by just a few Google searches. You complain about me skimming Wikipedia when you're more of a fucking retard for not doing it yourself, faggot
Literally yes. Not even contestable.
anti spiral dimension is a new reality crammed between the 10th and 11 spatial dimensions.
so that gets us to 11+1 at minimum
Gurren Lagann can attack across the time axis explicitly, and does so
11+1 spatial dimensions, + time
Thats 12-13 confirmed dimensions right there, not taking into account infinite multiverses (like the one that Simon drained) or other dimensions that might exist but were never explicitly stated.
As is Bison, he has like zero confirmed wins in all of SF and Rugal has an advantage over him in that he can absorb Bison's psycho energy like Shao Kahn did and has a wider and more varied fighting set. He's literally Bison but stronger.
Isn't there literally a page where he got KO'd by literal standard Gotham goons
???
Rose, SFA2 Ryu, Seth, Juri twice, Chun/Guile in SFV, SFA2 Psycho Limiterless Cammy, Ken too as implied in the Shadaloo Network's entry on violent ken
also walked off charlie nash's self destruction in sfv
Outlier. Batman can take blows from a serious Superman. He can knock out wonder woman and the flash.
nah it was confirmed he can do everything himself. meanwhile kyle needs parallax to do the white void trick. oof
We literally can't, the fight is off screen
Its also a case where the odds are so clearly stacked in Simon's favor in terms of powers and feats, that if they pull a Kyle win straight out of the deepest parts of their asshole on this it will ruin their credibility even more than the Kratos thing did. No one really cared about Asura, but if they do that level of disrespect for Simon and his confirmed very high power level? It will show that DB's opinion on anything really doesn't matter because they will tell you that the sky is green if it makes their preferred outcome work.
Kyle can do it on his own by DB logic. You keep forgetting the show we are talking about.
He never officially beat any of them outside of Rose, who's just him but weaker and more pathetic. Seth was already beaten down by Juri chronologically in her ending before Bison could use his body as a vessel, Ryu has dogwalked Bison every time they fight just like Akuma has, Cammy was literally mind controlled and forced to be subservient to him, Violent Ken's canonicity is dubious at best, and the Guile/Chun thing from SF4 was a fight that Bison just left before it ended.
He has no confirmed and definitive wins over anybody. The only kinda threatening SF villain is Gill because he was literally able to split the oceans of the world. He pulled a Moses. And maybe Akuma if you count that one meteor feat from that Capcom Fighting Evolution tie-in comic.
I'm not trying to argue with you about anything other than the idea of "mastering" many types of martial arts isn't some kind of numerical power level measure. Please tell me how skilled Batman is.
oh my god he fights simon and kamina in EPISODE FUCKING 3 ARE YOU JOKING
As far as I’m aware the Big Bang he absorbed require helped
The background context for this was that Imperiex was being drained by Warworld only AFTER Superman jettisoned into him which was when Kyle was still holding back his 12.3D big bang
admits to just reading it off wikipedia
Thank you, come again, SAAR. Oh and my problem was because you were acting like a smug cunt about it. I couldn't give two shits about how a pocket universe or multiverse works because we have no real evidence of these theories being correct.
That's why VS discussions have become a cesspit, because people like you are applying real life "science" towards fictional bullshit. That's why we got capeshit going, fucking, outerversal or whatever the fuck. It sucks and it's fucking cringe.
tie-in comic.
It's not even a comic it's just his ending in the game.
Otakon and Bruce never died in their stories. This is like arguing that Simon at his peak would be him having all of Team Dai-Gurren to help him, including Kittan.
Light either has all his resources or none at all
Just depends on the lore. Cry about it, this is how it would be handled. He has some things, he canonically loses other things. There is no scenario where Light has absolutely everything so it doesn't make sense to give him that.
you have to explain how exactly a single agent without help from the police (since the US surrenders to Kira and you dont have any outside help)
Dude, I've agreed that Coumbo is fucked either way. Don't you get it? I'm just staying that if you're putting him at a certain point of the story, he does not have certain things at his disposal.
Pokeballs somehow solo TRANSCENDENTAL OUTVERSAL IRL SCREAMING CHILDREN
Keep dreaming.
Did you not see the Pokeball capture all of existence? That includes the outerversal IRL screaming kids.
Kamina literally had no actual martial arts skills. Viral beat him because he was an experienced warrior. Kamina had to bailed out by Simon's "muh spiral power".
This never states the limits on their dimensions, only where the anti-spiral is located
So, if Ash and Yugi got into a fist fight. Ash would rip him in half, right?
Well whatever it was.
So located only in the 10 and 11th dimensions got ya.
Just because we dont know how many dimensions the ttgl universe has. That doesnt mean it doesnt cap out at some baby number!
PATHETIC! Kyle is taking this win home! ANOTHER VICTORY FOR THE DC SLAUGHTER HOUSE!
Logically speaking he could beat the shit out of Yugi.
But Yugi's iconic brain blast that instantly kills everyone!!
won't matter
Kamina literally had no actual martial arts skills.
Martial arts is just the application of how you fight. Kamina can fight well, he just didn't learn some guide on a style of fighting. People have the wrong idea about what "skill" is in a fight when it comes to these powerscaling discussions. Another example is people who think being self-taught is automatically worse than someone who wasn't.
Ash casually carried an over 2,000 pound pokemon, so yes.
Isn't the Pharoah well versed in hand to hand combat
???? Just cope already. You know damn well Bison has confirmed wins.
Who the fuck else took off Juri's feng shui engine between SF4 and SFV then? Fucking dan?
When does that happen?
Yugi's mind crash only kills the evil in one's heart anyway. It would do nothing to ash.
Ever fight a guy who can lift over a ton? I'm telling ya, it wont end well for you.
Yugi's mind crash only kills the evil in one's heart anyway. It would do nothing to ash.
He could just declare a shadow game or use one of his many millennium items.
That's not the event being referred to.
use one of his many millennium items.
Yeah, I love when Yugi uses the Millennium eye to trap people in cards.
His many Milennium items
Only has ever used one in the anime
All it does it house the soul of a dead guy
In the hands of team dai-gurren and Simon at the helm it would never happen.
Yes, I agree 100%. But the point I was making to the other anon is that if you think that Simon could literally on his generate Spiral Power with no external force, then you're either misunderstanding what Spiral Power is or wanking. Because if you could simply produce his own Spiral Power then he could just get rid of the Spiral Nemesis through force, when obvious that's not how it works. The Spiral Nemesis is the one thing in Gurren Lagann that would kill Simon because it's the logical conclusion of the uncontrollable side of Spiral Power, the tie between Simon and the Universe.
here was also he heavy implication Simon could bring everyone back to life if he wanted to (which I won't get too much into as that itself was controversial)
He could bring back from the dead but that could cause chaos as well, looking past the thematic reasons of not bringing them back (revived people would just get in the way of the next generation), a Spiral is meant to move forward, the Universe is meant to move forward, back bringing people back, you're going back and interrupting the flow and destablizing the Universe but this is getting to headcanon level speculation so I'll stop there
so not having the spiral nemesis happen simply because he wills it not to is easy to imagine.
I mean, in the sense that Simon gives up being a Spiral Warrior, passes his Core Drill to Gimmy, and travels the world as a homeless guy, sure. But brute force stopping the Spiral Nemesis, definitely not.
The guy wasn't draining energy from Kyle. The Source Lantern was taking energy from Lantern batteries from around the universe to try and heal the Guardians, and he was intercepting it and taking it for himself.
If anything this is an antifeat for Kyle because theoretically he should have been able to redirect the emotional energy away from this guy or the Source Lantern.
Juri is fodder who's only wins are against even weaker fodder like Cammy and Chun-Li anyway
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Face it, Bison vs Rugal is going to be the 3rd win in a row for SNK against Crapcom. They can only hope that Ryu is able to pull in a win and avenge his red shotoclone Ken against Terry with the mu no ken's bullshit hax.
Yugioh literacy and knowledge levels are on the fucking floor
Yugi does not need a shadow game and can easily use Duel Monsters card irl to hax people since season 3
i wonder if people here have only seen like, the first episode of duel monsters only or YGOTAS
No, not even YGOTAS since they also adapted the orichalcos final fight where they use the fucking cards to fight the very real orchicalcos god serpent using duel monsters
Many
Atem is tied to ONE millennium item (millennium puzzle) which is the only one he has any power over and it doesn't do anything special other than hold his soul.
One benefit about the whateverversal wank arms race is that you no longer have to read retarded spite match suggestions in which DCfags put DC heralds against characters that barely cap out at planetary like Blue Beetle vs Guyver or Etrigan vs Devilman and seriously try to sell it to you as a "fair fight"
So he has fucking wins, retard.
Juri also beat up Seth, who endured a SF4 ryu's metsu hadouken after tapping into the Power of Nothingness.
Cope and dilate.
Yeah...But wait...Where did Supergirl came from before she literally stomped his ass?
It's one of those jokes where batman solves the kira case by figuring that the word "kira" has Japanese pronunciation and then going The riddler
Don't they have fucking INFINITE attack power by the end of Orichalcos? It's been a while. Maybe it was BEYOND INFINITY because I remember it was pretty retarded.
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supergirl was happy being a good servant elsewhere
That metsu hadouken literally put Seth completely out of commission at the end of that SF4 movie and if you think Juri is anywhere close to Ryu or Akuma then you're even dumber than you sound.
baiting spiderman to jump into the ceiling only to beat his ass there
Pretty smart.
Has infinite attack
Could just killed by a bug's hax
>admits to just reading it off wikipedia
something anybody in the thread could do
you were acting like a smug cunt about it
No I wasn't lmao. This is my original comment and then your responded seething "WELL ACKSHUALLY" that's you being triggered that I can actually do basic Google searches dude.
I couldn't give two shits about how a pocket universe or multiverse works
It's relevant to Gurren Lagann's cosmology which DIRECTLY references it, you dumb retard. If you don't want to partake in the discussion, you can leave whenever
well yeah going off of assumptions without proof would not be beneficial to the discussion
He literally rapes them all a minute later.
Doesn't he leave them at Atem's tomb at their last fight? Technically that means they have all of them.
Because if you could simply produce his own Spiral Power then he could just get rid of the Spiral Nemesis through force
Can he really not though? You saw with even all of what happened with the Anti-Spiral, the nemesis never came close to happening. With all of the schtick about doing the impossible I find it hard to believe he couldn't just brute force it like he did everything else. If ascending beyond space and time does not bring the spiral nemesis noticeably closer then it really is a non-threat with Simon around.
On another note the whole "next generation" thing is complete and utter bogus because everyone who died during the anti-spiral war was only dead for about a week or so at best so they obviously can't get in the way of anything. Simon was also only in his early 20's and was clearly cut out for the leader position so by all means he IS the next generation so he can't say "I'm not cut out for this, bye" because he's dead wrong.
Every single generic cape guy who can fly and punch hard or shoot lasers out of their eyes is a multiversal herald because of chainscaling
Why would anyone want to see a capeshit vs non capeshit match?
Jimmy's a lucky nigga
Did they even hint at what they are gonna give ash and yugi?
He never used anything more than the puzzle. Even if he could use them, he is never shown doing so.
can easily use Duel Monsters card irl to hax people since season 3
Mind educating the class on that?
DC is Type I (lmao) universe
STTGL is a Type II (and I say that sparingly because the author modified how string theory it works)
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Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
like you are applying real life "science" towards fictional
Why would the DC authors do this?
It's irrelevant because the IBBS is the Big Bang of Gurren Lagann, which covers all dimensions
Because the requests came in before Omniman vs Bardock showed they're willing to make shit up to defeat the evil traditionalist Japanese!
right. string theory.
he gets all items by the end of the anime
i cannot fucking get people to actually watch the fucking show
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they can summon monsters irl and their effects as well
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and yugi can command the god cards as a spirit to kill the very real orichalcos serpent
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again, eat shit.
Bison was wins and you got exposed for being a retard
its just insane how people do not even know this and think DMs are just holograms or have only seen the first episode of the entire series to use "mind crush!" as an argument.
Vaguely. They suggested Ash could have all of his Pokemon he caught and Yugi could have every single card because his grandpa owns a card shop. It wasn't serious.
If card effects are taken completely seriously Yugi just needs one spell card to insta-kill everyone.
Those are funny to throw out, but if you're more serious about things you get silly stuff like BEYOND INFINITY ATTACK POWER
when SCIENTIFICALLY
You just proved my point AGAIN.
u-uh its relevant to TTGL's cosmology!!!
So is any capeshit cosmology then you smoothbrain. It's not even science because none of this shit is proven. It was JUST taken because it sounded cool to the creators of the show.
Step back from the keyboard, fag. Thank you, come again, SAAAAARRRRRRRRR.
I think Ash getting all of his Pokemon just cheapens it. He should be able to do it with six which is how it works for him. Yugi should have his deck.
Does Yugi keep Exodia?
All this cosmology autism when they're just going to go "Gurren Lagann just immediately jumps to it lol"
Raigeki is blocked by ground types and Gengar can ignore most shit due ghost type shenanigans
Kylebros…
Giving Yugi every card does seem a bit stupid. Should keep it to ones he actually used. It's just an odd and wonky matchup all around. Does Yugi still have to abide by the rules of the game? Can he just summon monsters and traps whenever he wants? If the Yugioh monsters are so powerful, why do they just not break out of their cards and kill everyone or something?
???
Its infinite vs infinite and then Yugi added the third knight as an additional attack.
Infinite obelisk has been infinite atk for the pol movie and some other duels.
Yugi's maxinum power is horiarchty by lore, whose above the gods, who did better vs Zorc than Exodia, who pushed back Yubel in their duel, who has the duel power to merge 12 dimensions.
Ash never gets any psychic types, actually.
And i doubt even Death Battle would give Ash the pokes he has "befriended"
Yugi's duel spirit and deck with the gods overpowers Exodia and the Darkness by lore.
Bison was wins
ESL spic exposed
Also he never beat Seth. Never even fought him. Thanks for proving that for me by dropping that link.
no argument
projecting racism
NTA and you? LOST.
You just proved my point AGAIN.
God forbid basic science be applied to discussion about science fiction, oh my God, the audacity
So is any capeshit cosmology then you smoothbrain.
What's the issue with that? If they are based on real physics, then present it. It's relevant to the discussion, not this tantrum you're doing.
It's not even science because none of this shit is proven. It was JUST taken because it sounded cool to the creators of the show.
Nothing is proven in science, faggot, they're all theories until more evidence comes out that shows the contrary. Therefore we use the theories these cosmologies are based on.
Yugi does not need to abide by the rules of the game. He can summon whatever the fuck he wants.
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also if they are going to semi composite him, then shining dragon can also be used to kill ash as a duelist, just like he killed Anubis with it.
Who was not a duel monster, but the duelist that took over Kaiba.
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eat shit
Abridged series
LMAO
By "strongest" it doesn't mean highest offensive power. It just means best. He's not beating Ra with the Dark Magician but that's fine because it's not about brute force.
OK, but what's stopping any of Ash's firetype pokemon from turning his ass to...ash?
Ash after getting hit by Yugi's BEYOND INFINITY attack power
Pikachu cries and brings him back
Yugi does not need to abide by the rules of the game
Yes he does.
He can summon whatever the fuck he wants.
By just drawing the right card. He doesn't really have a magic ability to get the card he needs, he's just very lucky. The whole "heart of the cards" thing is about believing in ones self and their skills. A king of games needs luck.
Yeah Seth was already beaten before by Juri, that's why she's already in that scene in Bison's own ending. Thanks for proving that point for me, Pablo.
so was it ever explained how Ash actually came back from the dead or why he was turned into a statue by Mewtwo and Mew's clash?
Yugi vs Ash will be fun and weird as hell cause how will they make the rules of how the non monster cards work against Pokemon? Like does raigeki work on ground types for instance
no because it was a movie that needed a happy ending
I guess the petrification was just THAT shit, worse than Dr Stone petrification
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Name a jobber in fiction who's more pathetic than Yamcha.
so now we've learned
Gurren Lagann/Simon can absorb higher-dimensional energy exactly like lantern energy
Gurren Lagann/Simon can weaponize higher-dimensional and pull a reverse Uno card
Gurren Lagann/Simon's power will keep rising while Kyle's will be limited, even as the White Lantern
horiartchy is his strongest thing he can summon
dark magician defending him just like neos defended jaden from paradox's attack on his in bonds beyond time.
Seth has a hole in his chest in juri's ending and left facing up.
This other Seth is face down in front of bison.
again, he has wins.
No he doesnt. Read the fucking link
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did the novelization explain it?
So now that The Amazing World of Gumball is getting an official more mature reboot on Hulu, when are we finally getting our little blue furball on the show
Will Ash only have one pokemon out at a time or what? How will they equate a pokemon's stats against the defense stat of a monster?
This one thing did it, so that means another can too!
Show DM actually defending yugi. Do it.
I think it'll be all pokemon at once cause otherwise that'd be really unfair considering Yugi can summon 5 monsters on the field otherwise
Kyle can mainline the Source with no limits
Kyle can affect dimensionality itself and edit aspects of reality to his choosing
Kyle can evoke White Space and ASS BEAT Simon to a bloody pulp
I think it will mostly go down to Pokemon feats vs Card Monster feats.
Raigeki can just insta kill supposed infinity plus one cards but also be easily countered with weaker monster effects or trap cards that stop spell cards.
Like, can Yugi just say fuck it and summon black hole and kill everyone?
I'm sorry am I offending you SAAAAAARRRRRRR?
continues desperately trying to justify his r*dditor bullshit
"heh, didn't you know nothing is proven in science?"
Be quiet, fag. Did I hurt your feelings by telling it how it is? Too bad. Fuck Simon and fuck Kyle, I hope this shit ends in a tie.
Retard, this discussion isn't regarding science.
It's regarding the shitty pop-science that your own midwit authors shoved into your setting.
Why the fuck would Yugi not scale to Jaden.
Anywho fine.
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Yugi can summon monsters he wants to irl without a care for tribute to fight the very real orichalcos serpent god.
Excuse the spanish dub.
Then why didnt Yugi do that against anyone else before or since?
Those dimensions are only multi galactic, retard.
>Kyle can evoke White Space and ASS BEAT Simon to a bloody pulp
he needs parallax to do that. he cannot just do it himself
why would he need to?
I think it would be a good idea to just nuke all the people who are trying to take over the world with magical cards and shit. Would save a lot of trouble. Summoning real monsters under ONE special circumstance is an outlier that he never did again.
assumes I read capeshit
Kill yourself.
What is the method for Jaden being multiversal?
i-i n-never cared in the first place
Kyle's strongest soldier, everyone
Because...
In general he doesnt kill
1 pegasus has his granpa soul and wants it back, bakura and pegasus use their MIs in this season's finale to try to kill the other.
2 they were trapped in nova's digital world
3 marik has good marik captive and yugi wanted to save him for Ishizu's request, marik also haxes a guard with a spell card in s3
4 orichalcos duels cannot be abandoned just like how yugi tried to against the first duel of the season and they are rituals to steal the others soul. and in this very same seson he summons monsters irl to kill other irl monsters such as orichalcos god
in ep 183, Dark magicial girl literally leads a duel monster world charge against the serpent as well
Capsule monsters - yugi uses capsule monsters and duel armors to kill other real monsters and against Alexander the great
PoL - he kills anubis in this movie with shining dragon
5 bakura also has a good side both yugies wanna save so killing him would not work, also they use fucking monsters to try to kill Zorc
GX- They fucking use monsters irl too and yubel uses her duel power ba to almost merge all 12 dimensions then make them explode
jesus christ dude it's not that serious
Very nice. This should be written down.
He doesn't need Exodia since lore wise Holactie is stronger (Basically one shot Zorc while Exodia failed to kill him before his user died)
Ash can summon more than one pokemon, it's just dishonorable in their world or something
Can he really not though?
No, it just doesn't make sense. It's like the Gurren Lagann equivalent of Wally West outrunning the Speed Force, if he could do that then would we have seen it.
You saw with even all of what happened with the Anti-Spiral, the nemesis never came close to happening.
The Spiral Nemesis is hinted to be more of civilization thing than just individual growth. That's why Simon says to have faith in humanity
With all of the schtick about doing the impossible I find it hard to believe he couldn't just brute force it like he did everything else.
The "doing the impossible" theme is secondary to "moving forward" no matter what, in this case Simon IS doing the impossible by killing the Anti-Spiral and bringing about a new future for the Spiral races to strive in
If ascending beyond space and time does not bring the spiral nemesis noticeably closer then it really is a non-threat with Simon around
You're not really taking into consideration that the Spiral Nemesis is a natural event and the logical conclusion of uncontrolled Spiral Power from civilization growth, using Spiral Power to defy its own concept to stop the Spiral Nemesis hasn't been shown to be capable from Simon.
On another note the whole "next generation" thing is complete and utter bogus
Say what you want, but the "next generation" thing was hinted at since Episode 1 when Kamina said that the youth will be the ones the reach the surface. Simon is basically just saying to give the younger generations a chance.
everyone who died during the anti-spiral war was only dead for about a week
Why stop at the Anti-Spiral War? Choosing favorites, much? What about the people who died during the Mugann attacks? What about reviving those who died during Lordgenome's tyranny? This is the slippery slope you create by reviving someone.
Simon was also only in his early 20's and was clearly cut out for the leader position
Simon was also probably burnt out and just wanted to live traveling
using Spiral Power to defy its own concept to stop the Spiral Nemesis hasn't been shown to be capable from Simon.
It hasn't even been tried. The entire time it's some hypothetical brought up by the Anti-Spiral that never came to be.
Why stop at the Anti-Spiral War?
Because it's recent. People have already moved on from the deaths of people like Kamina, it's not the same for someone who'd only died a week ago and is still fresh in memory. Not exactly picking favourites. There is no slippery slope, freshly dead people have no reason to remain dead if you can bring them back. Unless of course you don't trust Simon with that.
You sound extremely insufferable, god forbid anyone correct you
Oh right right.
There is no slippery slope, freshly dead people have no reason to remain dead if you can bring them back. Unless of course you don't trust Simon with that.
That goes against what Simon said to the anti-sprial. Did you not hear what he said?
How does it go against what he said? What bad happens if he revives those who died in the Anti-Spiral war?
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Spider-Dilf solos animanga.