Titans Together
Death Battle
Don't wanna
OH YES!!!
HE IS GOING TO JOB TO
THE ASS VOID!!!!
How bad will the copes be?
OH YES!
HE'S GONNA GO
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Threadly reminder: When you're arguing with a Kylefag, you're arguing with an Indian
Most reliable wincon for both?
pvp jello
jetpacks
What's exactly stopping Malevolent Shrine from manifesting Cleave and Dismantle on someone's innards?
The reason this doesn't happen in JJK is because everyone has an innate domain which prevents attacks from manifesting within the body, but what about characters from other verses who don't have innate domains? Say, Naruto for example. Wouldn't Sukuna's slashes manifest within Naruto's body because he lacks the protection to this given by an innate domain?
Imagine the wait period.
Nobody cares about this particular bitch from Touhou
use the ring to conjure willpower
use newfound willpower to conjure more willpower
become gorillaversal
Why doesn't Kyle do this, is he dumb?
Does Thorfinn stand a chance? I think Kenshin has too much battle shounen bs in his favor.
OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
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God bless and keep you, anon.
u mad :^D
Thorfinn is from an actual grounded setting, Kenshin is for getting humiliated by Gintoki. Watsuki's gonna get ripped into if one of his characters somehow get an episode
Godzilla Ultima eliminates the causal node that determines Hulk and the Green Door's existence
Hulk punches hard
Imagine the smell...
Fact 1: KINGtos can beat up every character that will be posted in this thread with zero difficulty.
Fact 2: No character posted that will be posted in this thread would stand a chance against KINGtos in a fight.
Fact 3: Every character that will be posted in this thread other than KINGtos would get beaten up by the Foot Fetish Lemur from Madagascar
Sukuna wouldn’t be able to use that on Naruto because if he tried he’d get his head ripped off before his fingertips even touch. This isn’t a reliable attack on someone outside of JJK unless he has a speed advantage, and at that point he can do the same for less by just using World Cleave.
Would they use composite Godzilla?
Shartnic doesn't deserve another match
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Yes, because otherwise its a stomp for Hulk
It's still a stomp for Hulk.
Sonic does beat Goku tho
Composite Godzilla has a shit ton of hax, especially his true form has a Mind Hax of countless-dimensional potency
Sinestro's green construct of a drll hurt Volthoom who embodied the entirety of the emotional spectrum and was so powerful that his own release from imprisonment caused cracks to be made in the fabric of reality
Death Battle made it clear that they are going to scale Kyle with every single feat, capability, and achievement of every single Green Lantern that has ever existed
Mfw during the final climactic battle, Simon pulls out the STTG Drill while summons a Green Lantern construct of a regular drill, only for Kyle's drill to shatter Simon's drill and pierce right through him
It's so fucking over for Simon, isn't it
Hulk's mainlining from TOBA which would counter that.
Godzilla would simply absorb TOBA
Not even infinitely outer-fictional
KINGtos stomps.
His name is Simon. You'll never forget it.
Could he? Even Ultima's "It" gets massively stat gapped by the green dor by virtue of it being the source of Hulk's power. But is it vulnerable to being usurped/taken over? I'm not even sure if they're within the same level of cosmology honestly, I know Ultima is Countless Dimensional but is the Green Door the same or higher?
...godzilla isn't absorbing God, anon.
The Green Door exists in the "Below-Place" which is said to be the bedrock and very idea of Hell itself.
Marvel Hell is just as eternally and infinitely dimensional as Ultima is.
A God with actual feats mind you, before Godzilla in Hell gets brought up.
I hope Hulk vs Godzilla isn't ruined by devilartemis.
The point of God is that he's pure omnipotence. If God in Godzilla in Hell lost and died to Godzilla, that was because it wasn't actually God or God allowed it to happen anyway for whatever reason.
Slayer’s will is always great than his opponent’s
Holy fuark, he can still Kyle’s ring AND Simon’s drill out of their hands, AT THE SAME TIME?!?
Ok so about as equal, sounds higher by your description of it but I'll take your word for granted. Has Hulk ever fought a guy who has version of himself in a higher plane of existence, can he clap away Ultima or something? Or does Ultima have all the non-time in the incomprehensible world to suck Green Door off while Hulk just stomps an everlasting Godzilla. Can he suck it off is what I'm asking.
It's hard to see TOBA as anything other than a big fart cloud
He’s already said that he, Luis (guy behind Courage Vs Scooby) and the guy behind Goku Bs Superman 3 are working on it.
God can lose in fiction, it has happened. It happens every Thursday in your average JRPG.
Track name: Spiral Of Emotion
Song artist: Brandon Yates
Was honestly expecting Therewolf to do it.
multiversal dinosaurs
TOBA Hulk jobbed to time travel
still
Good evening, saar
That filename
A-anon…
deviantart.com
None of you are powerful enough to stop me from dating underage girls...
There's nothing wrong with ogling 12 year old girls
I got it off google images
A likely story.
so he's not above space and time then and godzilla can time travel
Even Kratos has killed gods.
He's talking about the Abrahamic God specifically, which has still jobbed mind you
ENTER
Those gods are beyond cardinality orders of magnitude stronger than composite fiction btw
God I fucking hate Doomfags
So has TOAA which is just TOBA's other half
Hal Jordan...
Yahweh
Chemosh victim.
It makes sense why they had to nerf PR Beyonder, if they stuck with his original portrayal it would be out of place with marvel's current writers that have zero sense of scale
has to take a rest after creating the universe in Genesis
can't overcome iron chariots and Chemosh in the Old Testament
gets usurped by Lucifer in SMT
dies in Vertigo/DC
jobs to Spawn in Image
jobs to Vince McMahon
despite all these antifeats billions of """people""" delude themselves into believing he's real, can solo all other gods and is omnipotent
Yahwehbros...this is your God?!?!?!?
Says you. Kasen is cute and the protagonist of her manga. And Tohou is still big.
Who the fuck cares about that version of Sonic ?
More modern religion posting
I can smell this thread.
But THIS happened in a comic book and a video game!
Jesus fucking Christ anon. No pun intended
It’s been a while since I was in these threads. Is Otto happy again with Trump on the power?
I've heard rumors that Trump will make a Department of US Powerscaling and is considering Otto as the secretary
so.... who wins?
Canon
kyle got this, he almost loses his will power until he goes HAL JORDAN ANIKI!! WHAT DO I DO!? and Hal goes "man this corndog is really good" and kyle goes AH CORNDOG! HAL JORAN ANIKI SUGOI *turns simon into a corndog and then he eats it*
NTA but Kasen is cute, however the matchup is garbage and no non-2hufag would care about it. Where's Reimu's matchup?
Antonio from Vampire Survivors. Bullet hell vs bullet heaven, vampire killing protags. You can substitute this with whoever is the most popular characters are for both series.
c-crossovers don't count
Weak.
Rooting for Simon, betting on Kyle. I think they're gonna pull off some dimensional DCwank and/or igrnore the TTGL novellas
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
Wow, it's a wonderful day to DESTROY the WORLD!
Fuck that, where's the DB with Yukari?
Godzilla and hulk are dimes
aang vs traveler is announced
kickstarter literally goes backwards
hulkzilla announced
kickstarter starts going forward again
That ass? BOUNDLESS
Hulkzilla? Boring slop compared to GODgi vs SHITsh
Is this the only DC fight this season?
Hopefully
Bring me SHITtos.
youtu.be
Premiere page is up if anyone thinks they can glean anything else from the description.
Track name is "Spiral of Emotion"
deathbattle.gg
Also their website is up
Research Team - Carmelo "AkumaTh" Sampayo, Cian "Djangor" Mulrooney, Djmah'di "DJTiki" Rivers, Hershel "Lousy" Lousyton, Jacob "Jukem" Waller, Javier "Kirby Kid" Rivera, Matthew "ultraguy" Jones, Rina Antiqua, Speedy
Ringmaster is also credit for a VA
speedy is the only one not showing his name
KWAB
Simons lose condition is gonna him losing Gurren Lagann and they will ignore the fact he can just make them out of nothing
So descriptions can be changed after the fact, but this is not looking good for people hoping for Kamina, Nia, or Hal appearances.
deathbattle.gg
they made a t-shirt of the chick from shigaraki vs mahito
Will this fund Death Battle?
ENTERRRRRRRRRRRR
...Someone who jobs to Yuuma.
Their community would probably make these sell out given that they basically willed this set dressing background character into a fandom beloved character beyond Death Battle's planned tertiary cast.
Composite Shinji
Composite Koji
Composite Eva-Unit-01
Composite Mazinger (No Mazinkaiser - No Zero just Mazinger Z)
kasen is more relevant than shitnic in general
coomers will fund three more years worth of death battle
I prostrate...
WHOOOOOO?
...and by world I mean the UNIVERSE! (by which i mean galaxy)
Stop posting this garbage
Ew, I stepped in shit.
He doesn't want people to find him on the registry.
What the fuck?!? Something just fucking stepped on my verse, crushing it!?!
who?
some blue furry from some shitty games i think
Sorry m8, but I see GODnic the CHADhog here on this list. Who's that other character you named?
en.wikipedia.org
Good morning. I got a fight prediction for you.
youtube.com
I went Kyle due to a larger list of potential win cons and debuffs.
We've got to work hard to increase our supply of powerscalers since we deported so many back to Mexico.
No Team Dai Gurren
God, I know it doesn't matter because of that one statement but it would have been so much more fun to have them involved. Kyle could have fought them all as a group using different powers and then they combine to TTGL and it goes from there. Missed opportunity.
somic or something, i'm not very familiar
Viral not making a cameo is bullshit.
That was Godzilla, sorry Hulk
Any of these researchfags got on any DC matchups? Would be helpful to glean whether they had a hand in determining the victor of the matches
I have a feeling like DB won't actually have the life equation factor too much into the verdict since it seems like they want to avoid stuff that's very devisive on inclusion (ie. finagling Nolan's stats in a way that makes the question of 'are we including Super Saiyan Bardock' irrelevant)
I don't think it's going to come into play at all. White seems to be treated as Kyle's final form.
TDA Doomguy is the weakest version of him in nudoom
He still has a gun that can punch holes in reality and other weapons that have super metal that keep them from exploding due to how much force they’re emitting
his skull gun is literally enchanted to enhance the bone fragments to be magic super shards
Lmao why did they ever put Chief against this guy.
Is this going to be like Hal vs Ben where everyone wonders if Hal is going to get his alternate forms and he crushes Ben in base form?
They'll use white lantern, but depending on who wins they'll either have Kyle winning without anything extra or some reason Simon would win despite it.
possibly. he has the life equation that MIGHT or might not make him win, it's not really clear. so they just give him enough stats by multiplying infinite dimensions by infinite big bangs by infinite feats leeched off other characters so he can stomp without it
It’s literally the same researchers we’ve had for every other fight.
The Simonfags fear the deep fried delight
Just watched it. Not bad.
Wait, they don’t have a rotating list of researchers? I thought they always switched them up every now and then to avoid bias settling in or to bring people more knowledgable on other franchises.
GMK Godzilla would absorb TOBA, he absorbs the soul of every target/monster he kills
Why do people keep on insisting the Ash vs Yugi fight? It's one-sided, and this is from an Ashfag.
1v2 situation wherein Ash is facing against Yugi - King of Games and Atem
None of Ash's Pokemon can scratch Yugi's Egyptian God Cards with some exceptions
Ash has no magic protection
Most of his mons could fight Yugi's usual monsters, and maybe scratch his ace
They’re called “researchers” not “people who like a specific franchise”. I don’t even think we’ve heard any of their opinions on specific media aside from Swan, and he’s not researching.
1v2 situation wherein Ash is facing against Yugi - King of Games and Atem
Wouldn't Pikachu count?
Shinji's for the Ideon and Koji's for the Getter Team
He'd just count as a mon, I guess? It's not like he can command any Pokémon himself.
Because Pokémon get Death Battle the most views. I personnel think it should have been Tai vs Yugi and Atem. Digimon cosmology could actually counter some of Atem's bullshit and Digimon could easily go toe to toe with Duel monsters.
Yugibros don't know half of it.
Yeah time travel is the big point for me. Simon has basically nothing to counter actual time travel.
But that would be cool
The AI voice actually sounded cute there.
Except being transcendant of time, space and dimensions and having attacks that can already time travel.
Oh and they were able to detect targets in the future and past so it's not like you can escape him if he wants it either.
Back to your discord.
So does Kyle, so it negates each other. Therefore it falls back on who does it better and Kyle can actually move through time. Simon cannot.
His missles can hit Kyle at any point in time. If anything Kyle wouldnt be able to guard properly agasint time traveling missiles because he wouldnt expect them.
I think TOBA is a little more complex than a soul, so is the green door for that matter.
If Gurren Lagann can send parts of itself through time there's no reason to assume it can't just do the entire thing, but it's not like it needs to if it can just keep attacking 10^68 times (lowball) anyway
GMK would still absorb them as he's basically an egregore of those killed in WWII
Simon is acausal post-labyrinth, meaning even if you killed his past self, it wouldn't kill his prime self.
GMK is not absorbing the strongest Marvel character man
It would be funny if DB gave Simon some of the Anti Spiral abilities like Random Schrodinger Warp but that's neither here nor there.
acausal
Damn, if only Kyle was shown to absorb the power of someone who removed anothers acausality. Oh wait he did. Kyle just imposes causality onto Simon.
Holy based
Post scan?
Show Kratos not jobbing to Spawn
Since Spiral Power can impose acausality in the first place and it's 2 power escalations removed from Simon's peak where they were already beyond dimensions I don't think it could just be done like that.
Honestly, I like the 'Hal can steal the speedforce out of Amazo so Kyle can just steal all the Spiral Power' idea because I think it's funny.
I-I-I......
No. eat shit non reader.
The lantern ring can do literally anything. Wake the fuck up!
Simon
The lantern ring can do literally anything. Wake the fuck up!
So could spiral power.
Except win.
no matter who wins
everybody loses
they make a whole deal that Simon could revive Nia from the dead but doesn't
Can't Simon just resurrect himself
Ultraguy
They didn't talk about that in the preview.
i'm talking about the ending of the show not the DB preview
Sorry Kittan, sorry Lordgenome. I know we needed all the help we could get against the Anti-Spiral but I just didn't feel like bringing you back from the dead.
it's 2 power escalations removed from Simon's peak
You mean like the way green lantern, who did that feat, is two tiers removed from Life Equation?
I don’t think I’ve heard any of his biases other than reading all of those Superman comics for however many years. But that’s not really bias.
It's only brought up by the end of the series so obviously it's not something they thought they could do until then.
Post Kyle destroying a galaxy
That's in Simon's favor then because spiral power is scaling above Simon himself.
I still don't get what a de-evolution ray would even do, Boota was a less evolved Spiral lifeform and still contained all the Spiral Power he had before he evolved. This energy was enough to power the entire Super Galaxy Dai Gurren ship. It was only better exerted because he was human but that's it. Spiral Lifeforms evolve as a means of obtaining Spiral Power, evolving back into human would be far more advantageous and for Simon it would be like nothing happened.
If Kyle decided to turn Simon into a chimp or something, Simon would evolve right back by converting his Individual Growth Energy into Species Evolution Energy at will.
Simon wins because he got a better fit
Huh, isnt Kyle's pic for the episode literally the same one of him going "I CAN'T!"?
holy kek
I think it is
his outfit is literally just dressing up like his BULL who cucked him
Simon does it better
His name is Simon Chinkasu get it right.
is he dumb?
yes
Okay but could anything stop the retcon button?
Statstomps when given the same scaling liberties as Yugi
No reason for Yugi to try and attack Ash with his own hax, even if there was it's much harder to build an argument around this with a huge stat gap, and if they do put both in socipath mode he hard loses the quickdraw
Believable counters to most if not all traps/spells based on examples in both series + verse equalisation and minor benefit of the doubt, even the big ones like Swords or Mirror Force
If they're considered, Yugi doesn't really have a counter to Solgaleo's wormhole BFR or Gengar's various forms of soul fuckery
I think there is a feasible enough argument in Ash's favor if they want it
He was Superman's researcher, but he was also Harley's.
A weird thought I had is that the Death Note wouldn’t work on Popeye. Not necessarily because it couldn’t kill him (though that is another reason), but because of his name. The Death Note only works if you write a person’s true name, and 'Popeye' is just a nickname he got after losing his eye at age 12. Even though everyone, including his parents, calls him that, it clearly wouldn’t be his birth name.
Now, let's assume that’s been retconned and 'Popeye' is his legal first name, his last name still isn’t publicly known. He does have one, but only he and his parents know it, and his birth certificate is lost. So, unless Light has the Shinigami Eyes, there’s no legal or practical way for him to learn Popeye’s full true name, meaning he can’t use the Death Note on him.
isn't ash lifting cosmoem unironically a better feat than anything that happens in original series yugioh
their pokemon videos are pretty underwhelming view-wise for how popular a franchise it is, i guess youtube probably tries to hide them so kids don't see it
Ash just shoots a fucking ki blast at Yugi while he's shuffling his cards
Nyarlotep vs The Entity
(Persona vs Dead By Daylight)
who wins?
Yugi has plenty of spell and trap cards that could just instantly kill all of Ash's Pokémon or send their attacks back to them. Its really a stomp for Yugi. I agree with that one guy Yugi should have fought Tai instead.
Is there a fanbase more obsessed with power levels than Dragon Ballfags? Sonicfags maybe?
Sonicfags and One Piecefags. But they’re about the same
Only Big Bro Kamina c-can call me that!
When is G1 dropping
he still has the will and balance issue preventing him from accomplishing this. and even then, constructs are absorbable energy. plus, kyle hasn't really done anything similar to sinestro. it's about what Kyle's capabilities and limits are. not what he's potentially able to do.
Given that The Entity is capable of containing the likes of Vecna, then it could be pretty up in the air. Unfortunately, I don't really know what you could do with the Entity in a combat setting either.
Nyarlathotep is... multiversal? Universal? Whatever bullshit collective unconscious Jungian archetype nonsense Persona scalers have pushed the setting towards.
Invincible and One Punch Man fandoms, not even like specifically powerscalers or battleboards, but normies even.
Its over if Ash's Pokémon also get Smash Bros scaling.
Unless Yugi gets Jump Forceku scaling.
this will happen
but in the reverse
Invincible and OPM fans seemed to have somewhat died down.
Is there a fanbase more obsessed with power levels than Dragon Ballfags?
No.
Kyle doesn't even know all of the ring's capabilities. Hal even said so. if he knew how to time travel, he'd have gone back and saved his fridge gf long ago.
It is lmao
spell and trap cards
Speed dif, get removed or dodged
but Swords of Revealing Light!
Still speed diffed, still get removed or dodged. Even if it connects it can just be removed by non-attacking moves
Mirror Force
No-sold by 10mil Thunderbolt and arguably the Max Moves as well, and is once again dodgeable
Yugi doesn't just make things happen by thinking of them, and a lot of his best tricks require something to actually touch his opponent. Not particularly useful when you can't close the speed gap
OPM? Maybe
Invincible? You’re just looking in the wrong places.
isn't this them basically taking the L and admitting Kyle's will sucks shit
Nah, the Invincible writers/artists seeimingly love the powerscaling shit for their characters. There's plenty of drawings or posts they've made of Mark/Nolan/etc beating up someone else's character
Anyone familiar with both characters knows Simon mops the floor with Kyle on willpower. It would be more contestible if it was Hal
Dodged
I imagine it works via hit scan. Its just an effect on a card and doesnt have any predetermined speed. Yugi is also fast enough to keep up with Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Seiya characters so non of Ash's Pokémon are going to do speed blitz him.
Use face for a thumbnail
Somehow this translates to Kyle having less will in the fight
I don’t even understand what type of logic you COULD be using here.
I just hope the get LK to voice Yugi and Atem
The joke is that the thumbnail was taken from a moment where his will fails
I'd imagine they would try and dodge any panels that show a DC herald being a jobber
Will Simon be able to defeat GLOAT (Greatest Lantern of All Time)?
He's just being nice.
I mean his will is kinda subpar. If Simon was in an Oblivion situation he wouldnt have gone "I need to kill myself". He would have decked his dark manifestation in the face while hyping up and ultimately transform it into another power boost or himself.
To Simon, the greatest Lantern is no different than the greatest ant.
Ants are pretty strong though...A big enough one could beat Superman
You’re acting like there’s a big red arrow next to Kyle that says “his will SUCKED here”. It’s just an angry expression to match Simon’s, nothing about it is showing him losing unless you know the context of that specific shot.
youtu.be
Here's Swords of Revealing Light physically entering the battlefield in order to activate. It would stand to reason if you could destroy these before they get where they need to be you would prevent them from taking effect. Same goes for other spells and traps too.
STTGL will drill a hole in the Source Wall at 1:00 AM.
Maybe, just feels like I haven't seen a lot of 'Omni-Man beats up Superman' type fanart.
Actually, how big would an ant have to be to beat Superman? I assume bigger than a multiverse, but I wouldn't know the details
Yugi could just declare a shadow duel and order him to respect duel monsters rules
Yugi should have fought Tai instead.
Lol in your dreams. Digimon never has the sway Pokemon did in the school playground.
Exactly though, Pokémon keeps getting stomped because its so popular. Its kinda funny. I dont even think Goro should have lost to Machamp. Felt like a pity win. Tai vs Yugi would just be way more of a spectacle and a better overall discussion. Could really go either way with them.
if kyle can pull a "time, huh" then why hasn't he tried to save his girlfriend from getting fridged yet?
Also, Otto, why are you putting STTGL at Galaxy Level when we see it physically tower over multiple of them and quite literally absorb half of every galaxy in the final drill clash with Anti Spiral, even if you ignore flowery language or whatever, that's obviously multi-galaxy to half-universal tier
Knowing context behind it is what makes it funny dumbass
Werent you supposed to post this...
One Piece is such an entertaining case. Power levels in the setting are deliberately inconsistent and kept vague, scalers have to unironically rely on "portrayal" as some kind of stat because characters will be inactive for over a decade irl before doing anything in the plot. It's so bad that the top 5 characters in the verse have virtually no feats, debating their power levels within the fandom relies entirely on community-forced tiers and hopium that the characters will do something important in the next five years.
Isn't Kyle's preview thumbnail from his Injustice showing where he is killed by Sinestro like two pages later
Nevermind that Simon outright destroys the anti-spiral's infinite universe by killing him
Nevermind the novelization or exposition putting it way higher, with producers confirming everything's canon. It's basically going "la la la i can't hear you"
Kyle in that continuity couldnt do that. Pretty sure they use a bit of a composite for him
I wonder if we'll get Otoko then too.
He COULD, but he won't. He's not gonna go scumbag mode on a kid who seemingly just wants to have a duel. The premise for the fight initially will just be a "Ka battle" with spells and traps thrown in, and by the time he realises he needs to pull a shadow game stunt to "save his life" it'd be far too late.
Would a composite (including SRW) shit on Kyle?
Chances of Simon getting SRW are next to none. If he did he'd shitstomp
I imagine they'll bring up manga stuff but won't focus on it, Asura's manga was used for him.
Post absolute one-sided STOMPS.
Would SRW even benefit him? I thought Gurren Lagann was already the strongest thing in SRW.
this feels like a Rick vs The Doctor situation where it seems clear cut at first but the more you look into it, you understand just how fucked the other opponent is
Even the most powerful DC characters are like ants to the TTGL and Anti-Spiral.
Galaxies vary widely in size. Think how much planets and stars can vary in size and now scale that difference up. A galaxy can grow 1000 times its size and still be as big as another galaxy.
Mazinger Zero is stronger.
Yes he has Regen up to the ability to come back from anything that completely destroys his body as long as a disembodied soul mind or some other component of his self still exists he can come back
He could just declare it at any time though. It's also not like Yugi's stupid, if Ash starts breaking duel monsters rules he could get pissy for all we know.
Galaxies vary widely in size.
Point to a galaxy smaller than a star.
A lot of these fights vs DC Heralds end up just being can his opponent beat Composite DC man with the full power of the DC cosmology, I think them scaling Aquaman to the fucking Wonder Woman Shattered God feat because they're acquaintances but Namor not getting anything for making Thanos bleed was the most egregious example
There's Getter, Demonbane and Mazinger Z in the same ballparks
Does Hal artificially gray his hair or artificially color it?
Sure here you go.
Holy downplay
Galaxies vary widely in size. Think how much planets and stars can vary in size and now scale that difference up. A galaxy can grow 1000 times its size and still be as big as another galaxy.
Absorbing half of every visible galaxy and the screen zooming out to show nothing but pitch blackness as if every remaining thing in the universe was absorbed into the drill clash isn't Universal to you
as long as simon has a consciousness he can still fight. also doesn't spiral power regenerate as well?
Galaxies vary widely in size. Think how much planets and stars can vary in size and now scale that difference up. A galaxy can grow 1000 times its size and still be as big as another galaxy.
It has an official size larger than the largest galaxy and the producer commentary says it's a spiral space allowing thought given form. By the end it's a bit beyond galaxies even if you ignore the entire universe getting annihilated after the fist fight.
Mazinger Zero is NOT stronger than STTGL lmao. Demonbane is the only thing that could buff Simon.
by that logic what's stopping ash from just killing him off the bat
plus, a shadow game is not an omnipotent binding force. you can still cheat, and yugi has to manually punish said cheating. then we're back where we began with the speed gap issue
I mean regen limbs
More or less, Simon was able to generate more power than he was being drained of long before the final fight.
If I remember correctly Mazinger Zero was defeated by summoning all mechs from different stories. I also remember Gipsy Danger cameo in the manga.
Neither. I think originally it was due to DC wanting him to be older, so they just aged him over time. (Guy Gardner used his own ring to stop his aging, for example). But then later said it was due to stress caused by fear from Parallax in the central battery subtly messing with him over time.
In what world is this not universal tier
That's just flair for the animation. Its a magic card with no defined durability. Only way to get rid of it is with magic, an effect that targets magic, or a trap cards. Ash could maybe bullshit some aura out of his but to get rid of them but thats kind of an ass pull. I really do think Yugi's magic and trap cards are going to win him this. Shit is just to OP and Ash has no proven way to counter them.
What's Simon gonna do when Kyle makes 50 TTGL constructs????? Checkmate.
Hit post too early. Meant to add that it was just kinda gone at some point after he came back.
This did nothing to Earth which was accessible through a nearby window.
Um... Those Galaxies are actually star systems
Lordgenome regenerates from just a head yes
Absorb em
You...You weren't supposed to say that...
Pokémon keeps getting stomped because its so popular
Lol what?
Mewtwo Vs Shadow: Win
Lucario Vs Renamon: Win
Pikachu Vs Blanka: Loss
Goro Vs Machamp: Win
Red Vs Tai: Loss
In what world are they getting stomped? If anything they have more “undeserved” wins (according to the fans of the losers)
Nigga that's like 50? 200? visible galaxies. A universe has billions of times that many in JUST the observable part.
Uh.. Well, you see... Earths are actually multiverses in DC so star shaking in DC is Outerversal+++
My favorite single galaxy tier feat is to absorb every single visible galaxy until there's nothing but pure pitch blackness forever, as SINGLE GALAXY NOT MULTI-GALAXY OR 2-GALAXY BUT 1 SINGLE GALAXY-BUSTERS typically do. Kinda like how planetary characters can casually absorb every single planet at once.
It could simply be a restart, the clash is referencing the Spiral Nemesis/Big Crunch so the Universe had to have restarted
why didn't they casually depict a billion of something
Are you fucking serious
People from Earth watch the spiral dimension explode. Nice try.
You cheeky bastard. now I want a beyblade match up between Gingka vs Tyson
even if you destroy infinite planets you are still only planetary+. you need qualitative superiority to go up the next tier.
Also now that I think about it, how the fuck was Machamp beating Goro a pity win? What scaling did Goro have that should’ve allowed him to win? How was it a pity win if Pokèmon had a win streak at that point.
Not even supercluster level. All the universe shit is entirely based on contradictory artbook information.
Tyson? The chicken people?
Superman can't absorb every single sun at once in a matter of 10 seconds, ergo he clearly caps out at star level at best.
Simonfags when you explain that the universe is more than fifty glowing frisbees.
pure pitch blackness forever,
he doesn't know how light works
We're probably getting Rathalos vs Charizard
Is this the turning point? Is it truly over for the simonsissies?
Would Ash want to break the rules though?
You dumb asshole. There are places in the universe so vacuous that there is no starlight. The milky way is 84 thousand light years across. The Bootes void is 330 million.
Goro got scaled to Mortal Kombat characters he'd literally never met and were way out of his league in strength/speed
Machamp just had the animation for Seismic Toss calc'd and it was still 100,000x stronger
Goro got off fucking easy lmao
They used it in the DBCast, you are delusional if you think they'll ignore it.
Unless you never watched the old beyblade show Tyson is a character from that show.
I think this one works better as a DBX, god rest it's soul.
They won't. Even Otto said they'll just go ahead and make each galaxy multiverse level. But the point still stands. You have to bring in the book to crank them up to universe level because every other way especially scaling them to smaller characters and the Earth makes them incredibly tiny by cosmic standards.
The 1080 video resolution is 2340 * 1080 for 2527200 pixels. There are 2 trillion galaxies in the universe, meaning that if EVERY SINGLE PIXEL depicted a galaxy which would mean 0 detail and an entirely white screen which you're meant to take as 2527200 galaxies, it would take 791389.680279 seconds to accurately depict every single galaxy being absorbed as per the constraints of video resolution. This is the argument for putting Simon at not multi-galaxy/universal level pre-swank btw, that they didn't have hours of a blank white screen and two drills in the middle.
That was after the Anti-Spiral's defeat, which led to their dimension everything maintaining it being destroyed, there's no reason for the people on Earth to be affected by that. Also we gotta stop with the portal shit, the creators said the people on Earth were only able to see because of an image being projected by space-time being warped like a projector
The fact that everyone on the ground was watching a galactic battle on a galactic scale gave a sense of scale that was very much like a GAINAX work.
Imaishi: Oh, is that so? I got a good laugh at the scenario meeting (laughs). When I said, "I want you to be able to see it in real time," Nakashima said, "That's not possible! He told me. So in the play, the space-time is twisted and the image is projected, but I wanted it to be seen live, in real time. They're fighting in that galaxy over there! like that. Yeah, it's too big to see (laughs).
Imaishi: Yes, that's right. What do you think about being able to see it because it's so big? When I asked him about it, he said no. What's more, you're talking about where the galaxy is.
Otsuka: It would take tens of thousands of years to see them.
Imaishi: Well, I think that's true. But by that time, I'm sure Nakashima-san will have found another reason for it! (laughs) because I was expecting it. I didn't say anything, thinking, "Maybe if I say something like this, Mr. Nakashima will come up with something good that doesn't change the picture."
Simon destroys the Anti-Spiral's universe after the fist fight. Even if we buy your childish downplay you can't really escape that.
I don't understand why you would think Tai would be better. It's just trading bigger numbers for way less versatility, at least Ash has an entire team to talk about
when they elected to depict nothing but pitch blackness after some number of galaxies were absorbed they were clearly going for a singleton galaxy level feat
Keep in mind this retard is seriously arguing for hours of a white screen for this to be a universal feat
You weren't supposed to post this...
Anon from yesterday here. Yesterday I claimed that one of Simon’s Trump cards is his acausality. But upon further research. I’ve concluded the arguments for Simon acausality are flimsy and a bit contradictory based on statements m.
First, There’s nothing in official handbooks, biographies, etc. directly stating he’s acausal and secondly from what I’ve seen, no particular feats demonstrating he is.
The only thing that makes arguments for his acausality are quotes from the Novel. But I want to hone in on a quote from Nia from Gurren Lagann: “Even when trapped in the cycle of cause and effect!” Ya-da-ya They can break through. All fine and cool.
But if you thinking about it for a little bit, it’s not a statement for acausality. From what I interpret, the statement still implies that Simon is still bound by cause and effect. He just to has to eventually reach a level of power to ignore causality. But we don’t know what that level of power is. Now the other statement, is a bit more credible and blatant. It’s or less along the same lines, but this statement from Nia is incongruent to the later statement. So I can only conclude that the argument for Simon’s acausality are at best inconclusive at best. Or at worst, contradictory.
Thus is my own interpretation. Not Death Battles. I think Death Battle will give him acausality, but I think the arguments are flimsy. And if real, he has to work for it. It’s not instantly granted to him.
Dipshit it's called extra dimensional portal.
They're fighting in that galaxy over there!
This proves the artbook numbers are bullshit and that everyone is galaxy sized.
First, There’s nothing in official handbooks, biographies, etc. directly stating he’s acausal
I mean it says TTGL is above time, I don't get what else it could mean.
Arguing STTGL is galaxy level
We've reached copium overload.
isn't it canon Vecna isn't actually contained and is just doing it for fun?
And then they absorbed every single galaxy at the big drill clash, so universal.
...in my fanfiction
A bitch says a motivational quote and you take it to mean someone is immune to time? I hope Kyle shoves Simon's drill up his ass.
I want Kyle to win but even I think the “TTGL is just galaxy level” is retarded. What kind of a dumbass would say tha-
triptard and his orbit
Oh…
NO NO NO AUTHOR STATEMENTS ONLY MATTER WHEN THEY WANK MY CHARACTER
I knew you were a capeshit dickrider but holy I didn’t think you were this stupid. Why aren’t you a DB researcher? You’d fit right in.
The attack where they throw the fucking things is called galaxy shuriken. Simonfags deserve to lose as hard as Benfags did. Fuck you.
STTGL is not even large planet level, as you can see by looking at the Anti-Spiral mech's homeworld on its head.
Meanwhile, look at Kyle's outerversal powers barely withstanding a nuclear explosion far away from the epicenter, to the point where it's not even a city block level feat. Simon has no chance.
Motherfucker when you have onscreen events character dialogue and author statements stating against your claim MAYBE you're retarded.
Uhh, actually you see Simon and Anti Spiral absorbed every single visible galaxy leaving nothing left but they didn't show a white screen for 219 hours to accurately depict a trillion galaxies being absorbed so it's actually single galaxy level.
Anyways Perpetua and Batkek once smashed two planets together which is clearly infinite boundless hyperversal multiversal omniversal because it said so in a textbox, also you're not allowed to use guidebooks because that's VSBWank and clearly attempting to swank what we visibly see happening into being more impressive than it actually is.
But a lot of characters scale above space-time yet in their respective universes are still bound by higher forms of such concepts.
I’m fine with the galaxy shurikens being called galaxy level, obviously. I mean literally everything else.
WOW THEY MADE LIKE FIFTY GALAXIES SPIN
Die.
my good sir if we give it to everyone that is above time then Jiren would have it
How about depicting more than fifty galaxies asshole? Does that sound reasonable to you? Or does the concept just shatter your fucking mind?
The main argument for Simon's acausality comes from this novel excerpt
""Yeah!"
The members of the Gurren Lagann behind me nodded vigorously when I said that. Thank you, brother. I believe in you who believes in me. I believe in my friends who believes in myself.
Simon held up his core drill to the heaven and a flash of light flashed across the sky. Countless appearances of Simon appeared in the sky, and they were the past, the present, and the future, every place, every time, and the innumerable selves that live in a world of infinite possibilities.
There is no escaping wherever you go. In a closed infinite universe, various lives are repeated. In that universe of possibilities, Simon twisted the countless selves he had drilled into one, twisting them together into a giant drill, and before he realized that it was a huge drill, Simon wasn't there but Gurren Lagann. There stood Gurren Lagann, holding up the giga drill, "Let's go, buddy!"
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No one would question Jiren's Acausality you dummy
Kylebros we're barely building level?
Dude you can't use this as an argument the animators only had so much time budget not to mention picture clarity and visual aesthetic.
SS5TGL is only galaxy level
I see DCucks are reaching critical levels of cope.
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STTGL transcending time and space isn't Simon gassing himself up though. it's a direct statement from the artbook made by the author
uh huh.
Buildings are 4D in DC you chud
If Simon wasn't acausal why doesnt the anti-spiral just use the time travelling attacks it upscales from and attack simon endlessly like SGGL can
he wanted a dragged out scene of STTGL wiping a billion galaxies for 10 minutes
Kill yourself
they're using the novels by the way :)
Meanwhile in the producer commentary of Lagann-hen from a year or so ago
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Y-You weren't... supposed to mention that...
because he's dumb, same reason why Green Lantarns stop using wacky abilities
WHAT THE FUCK
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T HAVE KYLE START OUT AT BUILDING LEVEL HE'S HYPERVERSAL
That's just flair for the animation.
Any proof of this claim at all? I see a spell physically manifesting in order to take effect. Seems pretty straightforward. Literally what evidence is there otherwise?
Magic card with no defined durability
NLF. If it has literally no showings of durability, it's much more reasonable to assume it has none than infinite.
Only magic users and other cards can counter them
Another NLF. Obviously they don't hit eachother's spells and traps with attacks in the anime because they're playing by the rules, but again, there is zero evidence showing that they'd be immune to anything that could be thrown at them, or even just dodged. Besides, Ash has means of "removal" at his disposal that are analogous enough to existing removal in Yu-Gi-Oh (Whirlwind, Ultra Wormholes, etc) so to argue that none of it would work because it's not "YuGiOh magic" is pure wank.
And Simon will still lose. Your gay little statements mean that the specter shit being eternity level is legitimized. Kyle upscales from eternity and its your fault for accepting absolute horseshit arguments as gospel truth.
Kylebros WHAT THE FUCK even the 2nd form of Gurren Lagann is multi-universal!? And we're not even building level!?!?
DC lost last time they weren't mentioned in the title
Kylebros?
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Lol true. Simofags tied their own noose. Have fun with eternity level green lantern kyle assholes.
as you can see by looking at the Anti-Spiral mech's homeworld on its head.
Are we doing this again you fucking retard?
Just remember Simonfags you lost the right to complain about DC feats the attosecond you tried to pass off the planet on top of the bad robot's head as a multiverse.
Kyle scales to [...] a jobber
anon the post is making fun of kyle
it would take tens of thousands of years to see them
Wouldn't that mean they're only tens of thousands of light years in size?
Simonfags will tell you eternity specter is bullshit while believing in multiverse planets.
Tyson chicken is a character in Beyblade? What's that shit even about?
still mindbroken over this
Getting angry that you are retarded won't make the novelizations any less canon.
UM...UM...JAPANESE ANIMATORS HAVE LIMITS PLEASE UNDERSTAND!
why does the idea of a DC herald getting btfo by an anime character make you seethe so much lol. reminds me of how flashfags were having a meltdown even after Sonic lost. Is this ego-driven?
We don't you fucking retard time space is being warped in the battle meaning the planet appears how big it needs to for the climax of the movie.
If you saw picrel and still go off about multiversal planets, you're the retard here
actually Simon would be acausal with the whole merging with all versions of himself in the multiverse but one of those weird multiversal singularity type of acausal where only one version of him exists in the multiverse but his past self still exists
you don't understand, capeshitters have been attaching themselves to their status quo nonsense for the last 50 years, that's enough time to live their entire lives being attached to people men in spandex
time travel as a wincon for a green lantern
Benfags will develop PTSD
Is your post a translation of the image? If so, I’m not understanding how this is an argument for acausality. Taking this on its face is not an argument for it. I can see it as an argument for how he can gather different versions of himself from across existence and power himself up. Sure.
A statement for acausality means just because you did an action to “X” doesn’t mean you affected “X.” First of all the different versions of Simon are clearly effected the main Simon. And even the main Simon was still affected by the action he just did according to that translation. The cause “Simon gathered different versions of himself.” The effect: he got stronger. You can make the argument he operates on a higher level of causality but to be completely detached from it is a completely different and needs stronger arguments imo.
You can make the argument he operates on a higher level of causality but to be completely detached from it is a completely different and needs stronger arguments imo.
Yeah we can just use the novelization pointing out TTGL was beyond time and space upon its creation, Simon scaling above it and then later STTGL getting the same flavor.
galactic battle on a galactic scale, that galaxy over there, where the galaxy is
Simonbros...this might be the biggest fraudcheck since Demonbane
I think it's kind of a moot point. Yugi isn't going to change the rules mid-game vs a fair-fighting opponent just cause he's losing, and if we throw away personality constraints and assume "bloodlusted/survive at all costs" scenario, then "the rules" go out the window on both sides. I don't think there is a "Yugi creates a no-win scenario and Ash just lets him do it" angle here at all.
meanwhile in producerland
BENBENBENBENBENBENBENBENBEN
See?
DCuck meltie in approximately 27 hours.
Simon has always been galaxy level. Always.
Nope. Simonfags will get all the feats and scaling they want. It just won't be enough. It won't be near enough.
I don't know man Ben has pretty straight forward universal feat
DCucks mindbroken by meCHADS
That's true. Ben is objectively stronger than Simon.
isn't STTGL and TTGL essentially a living infinite multiverse converted into spiral power tho lol
yes but that guy is in denial over what the producers say and that everything is canon
Ben has pretty straight forward
wait that's stupid, why did I forget the a?
Bros… do our favorite heroes job to 9D air?
Both stomp Kyle tho
Crash Bandicoot already beat infinite dimensional beings so no
If Simon loses everyone has to call him Simon Chinkasu.
kylefags will see this and try and convince you he's multiversal
Supperent Wosed To Pois Thst...
Simon watching Kamina and Nia’s sextape like
He looks less mindbroken here than when he got cucked the first time by Kamina
G1 blog is out
Otto you fucking old fart i want you to make a top 10 ERB matchup list, im tired of death battle
got so mindbroken by feats against that now he can just set himself up to get banned again
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Even then those arguments aren’t that strong. I can conclude he operates on a higher level of causality but even he has to work for it and it’s not Intrinsic to his base self.
also wasn't the drill clash a direct reference to the big crunch? you even see the infinite symbol for a split second
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how can you argue that this isn't universal just because of inconsistent sizes?
How isn't it? The anti-spiral is not just targeting Simon before he went into the mech and killing him. They scale, they can attack through time to an absolutely absurd degree. In any reasonable reality, Simon is not vulnerable if you attack him in the past just like the Anti-Spiral himself isn't. Hell, they deliberately went out of their way to send their Ashtanga through several time axises, implying those much weaker mechs are not bound by time either. And this is long before it just downright tells us that yeah, they're beyond time.
Otto, you should do Getter Emperor vs STTGL as a palate cleanser in case this fight is shit
tl;dr Simon evolved to a point where he became acasaul. I get it
undermines the spectacle of Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann, TTGL and even STTGL's fight scenes
It is one thing to say the galaxies from the final fight are universes but this is just retarded
LIAR.
I'm sure the next canned disappointed reaction image that you can retrace in the archives will make them stop using all the canonical feats per the producer that makes STTGL far beyond just universal.
sorry I was mistaken
Cool
MFW Kyle gets cucked by two different Simons
Don't the drill's absorption and conversion capabilities by default leave Kyle's constructs in a vulnerable state