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Death Battle
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OH YES!
HE'S GONNA GO
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Threadly reminder: Whenever you're arguing with a Kylefag or see someone spam cuck/NTRshit, you're seeing a literal phoneposting indian having a melty.
Yeah when the unhinged retard isn't going off on one of his tangents the threads have actually been surprisingly enjoyable due to people actually arguing the matchup
sameBITCH
At least we got some fun OC out of this match
Godzilla wins
t. deathbattle researcher btw
22 second difference
Kyle is dead.
Simon beats Superman and Hal Jordan too btw.
Can't stop the spam from the browns
My shithole was forged by the English crown
A forced torrent from a random Pajeet town
The cuckposts are mine, the cuckposts are mine, baby
I'm Hindustani, I'm not Hindustani
My IP's from there, but I swear I'm not Hindustani maybe
I'm schizophrenic, I'm not schizophrenic
Ten replies from me, but I swear we're not schizophrenic maybe
*ahem*
FUCK CAPESHIT
I haven't really seen any.
Post it all RIGHT NOW.
GOLD
Hey, Peter here.
I just came by to say, despite who wins or who loses. It shouldn’t take the love you have for either. These characters actually mean something. It doesn’t matter who’s more powerful, or who can blow up whatever. What matters is what they mean in there. *points to your heart*
Yep.
So what do you say fellas? Let’s have an awesome time tomorrow and enjoy the show!
Holy kek
Betting that Simon wins, not because he beats Kyle but because Speedy will rig it like he did last time.
Holy fucking shit KEK
DC Plebbitfags bitching and moaning that Kyle got sweeped
kek
Yeah, even filtering out the Cuckanon stuff, these threads are going by insanely fast. This episode actually has a good chance of performing really well if this translates to anything.
Thanks Peter. If only more posters were as positive as you.
I think it's necessary to remember that death battle goes by who's the most likely to win more often than not. and not in very specific situations. and generally speaking, I personally think Simon is more likely to keep Kyle on his toes for a time, absorbing constructs and going at similar speeds. Kyle is very inconsistent with his powers and lacks better will.
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What's G1's accuracy record for the new stuff so far?
FUCK SHITPOSTING
What do you actually want to see from the fight tomorrow unironically?
Vocaroo now!
LET'S GRIT THOSE TEETH
They only got Omnidock wrong I believe
The last one they got wrong before that was Friezatron
like animation wise?
Kyle being entertaining with his construct creations
Simon drilling through the source wall or source wall equivalent
Bare knuckle brawl in a white void
Surprise Will of the Drill at the climax
Unironically a Bardock.
I’m not going to sugar coat it, the G1 blog did knock a bit of the wind out of my sails. But upon more pondering, just I don’t by some of their arguments.
15-0 kekarooooooooo
Like?
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Saars...
if you're a kylefag and you haven't contributed to the incessant ntrfaggotry, I hold no ill will towards you and I hope DC eventually does your man justice.
Alright, so after talking with a few people on discord, don't let the numbers deceive; Simon having 15 backers compared to Kyle's 0 could simply mean those 15 people think Simon has a 51-49 chance of winning, not that it's a complete sweep. Friendly reminder that overcoming impossible odds is literally a connection between the combatants, with that very much applying to Kyle too! Don't let y'alls agendas be shaken no matter which side you're backing
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Kyledditor getting desperate I see.
But other than that. I hope for some great animation. And I hope both characters get the respect they deserve.
Power
it would be funny but like with omniman what feats can Kyle get that he didnt do that DB could spin to be "OMG KYLE TOTALLY CAN DO THAT ON HIS OWN"
lmao those DCfags are fuming over the G1
There's that one image of Simon saying Kamina and Nia oh woaw. I don't have because I don't save cuckshit
part of me genuinely thinks that the same guys going "stop posting cuck shit" also join in on the memes when the cuck shit gets posted because it still makes them laugh even if it's annoying (I'm one of them)
All development is retconned in the next Hulk run
Banner and Hulk are back to being enemies
Yep, sounds like capeshit to me.
Funny thing is, DB is most likely gonna have Kyle win anyway because they love DC more. While G1 has a good track record, let's not forget that half of the voters buy into Kratos fanwank.
OH-HH WA-OW
I just hope Kyle gets a bit more love after this regardless of what happens
mindbroken autist
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That's the problem, there really isn't anything. It's not a specific feat this time that DB can calc higher or leave out, it'd have to be a certain way to interpret abilities and the G1 blog was really thorough about it and gave a huge amount of leeway to Kyle on literally everything.
The only thing I can see is if they just downplay/discard a bunch of stuff for Simon like Otoko or say 11D is his max limit but I don't really see that happening desu
Just saying its pretty funny to watch DCfags show their true colors
Simon
Limit
That's not how a drill works
Um... Marvelxisters?
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Art of Kratos
Simon going "KAMINA-ANIKI HELP MEE"
and then Kyle going "HAL-SAMAAAAAA LEND ME YOUR POWER" and then they both draw from their mentor archetypes
there's actually not that many in here considering how long the wait periods usually are
the blog straight up said Kyle was the most powerful being in DC other than literally God
and that he's outerversal+++
and he gets near full control of the Life Equation (other than it making him weaker)
BUHHHHHHHH BUHHHH BUHHH BUHHHH THEY'RE BIASED AGAINST KYLE!!!!! HOW DARE THEY NOT GIVE HIM A SINGLE VOTE!!!!
I am still trying to piece together what the cosmology is in this literal who series (Umineko) for Featherine tiering.
So my brief reading of it, is essentially there is this mortal plane, that is infinite, and you can go up to this higher "witch" realm, and that is infinite and then past that there is a "creator realm" with is also infinite or isn't doesn't matter. This interpretation puts them at like 2 (three?) Cardinalities on infinity.
So this would be two hierarchies of infinity, but if I read the fanbase shit they start talking about how that "infinity" means nothing in the higher realms. If we use the normal definition of infinity then that actually means nothing as that's literally how it works normally with cardinalities, but they say that that is referring to INFINITE CARDINALITIES per set theory, which I am confident the author didn't mean because she is a woman and can't do math. However, this would mean that the 2nd witch realm is already basically outerversal and all the witches are effectively omnipotent/boundless and then the creator decided to make the creator realm infinite cardinalities (again) over infinite cardinalities (lol) so Featherine could be infinitely-infinite above them, effectively whipping out some deviantart OC omnivastance (which doesn't mean anything because omnipotent would have already priced everything conceivable in by definition)
All of that to still just job to ruckerverse
Decide to try and figure out who "Racist Goku" can beat for a laugh
Loses to rock
Loses to paper
Loses to a dog
Loses to ants
Loses to a sick defenseless child
Loses to Homelander
Loses to Donald Trump
We're doing a sequeeeel
So, Anon Babble, what's the plan if Kyle wins? You got anything you want to pick up? A new hobby? Game? We're feeling good right now but we need some backup copium in case it all comes tumbling down.
How disgusting. Once i deal with Homura, i will vanish you too, scum.
Dont you dare understimate us witches!
...to Mahito vs Shigaraki.
Damn Boota you didn't have to kick Kyle's ass that hard!
Best shitpost from this wait period?
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Otto prediction for comparison.
the overall downplay.
Using everything in Simons catalogue but limiting Kyle to one cosmology because of it being "inconsistent" when that same argument could be made for Simons extra material but of course, benefit of the doubt for Simon.
He already resisted a better form of probability/fate manipulation with the anti life equation (when it's not downplayed to all hell)
See, it's always "could" with Kyle. "He could rewrite probability but ehhhh nah, we don't think he can" also the "toll on his body" can be easily healed with the other rings.
Rarely is a "could" with Simon, also love the downplay of Kyle getting stronger just means he'll stay in the fight longer and not rise in power like Simon, that was also a funny one.
This is the main reason Simon winning would be hilarious
Imagine all the fucking "Boota casually soloes the composite Justice League" memes just IMAGINE the seethe
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. Kyle is infact a powerhouse and one of the most OP characters in all of DC history. and Simon is on a similar level of bullshit. Simon imo just takes the slight edge here in endurance, absorption/conversion hax, and will.
Bare knuckle fight and good animation is all can ask for
Did that one even get a tally/vote?
Cape BTFO
we're back by popular demand
This >beyond fiction stuff is also pretty midwit, as I interpret this as just the arrogance of witches/featherine against the people in the weaksauce verses and their ability to just change how their verses work on a whim or just transcendental magic bullshit, rather than being any actual meta-narrative shit.
But please tell me it's meta-narrative shit, because that would logically downscale the absolute fucking shit out of her.
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Can Simon drill out of
the Source Wall?
This is by far one of the biggest discussions this debate has seen, and it’s time we answer the question once and for all. But before we do, we should probably go over what the Life Equation is once more and how the Source Wall is somehow involved in this.
The Life Equation is what Kyle discovered when he breached the Source Wall in his final battle with Relic, who was trying to similarly breach it, and while Relic did not return from it, Kyle did. While he was in the Source Wall, he bonded with the Life Equation; the very source code of all life itself, becoming an inseparable part of who he is and giving Kyle reality warping abilities no Lantern has seen before. An extension of this is Kyle is able to travel into the Source Wall, and warp it from being impossible to being possible to travel to and fro beyond the wall. As shown with Relic and all gods and monsters who have tried and failed, trying to interact with the Source Wall means you will get assimilated into it, becoming a part of its graveyard of a trillion faces. If Kyle hypothetically plunged Simon into the Source Wall, what would happen?
So kyle will win because the blog that said kratos will win said kyle would lose and kratos won
Oftentimes the Multiverse Labyrinth is brought up as the main source of evidence for Simon being able to break out of it, but you may be wondering why; after all, they aren’t really too similar. The Multiverse Labyrinth is a complex extradimensional space of infinite possibilities that holds your consciousness hostage, whereas the Source Wall is just…infinite primordial energy. Hardly a trap by comparison. But it’s the sealing aspect that gives Kyle points. Otoko Simon would’ve eventually busted out of Simon’s Core Drill, and the Multiverse Labyrinth at the end of the day still is an extradimensional space, and is considered a place beyond all known time, space, and dimensions, concepts that Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann just so happens to be able to surpass.
Various Spiral Power users could resist the Death Spiral Field, which can absorb and convert energy into mass, meaning Simon won’t be integrated into the Source Wall anytime soon, so long as he is producing Spiral Energy. And lastly, even assuming in spite of all of the above that the Source Wall can trap Simon, characters like Yuga Khan have broken out of the Source Wall before entirely by themselves. Granted such an act took eons, but with Simon’s space warp and probability missiles he could still return to the fight. Simply put, the confines of the Multiverse Labyrinth are what is similar to the Source Wall, and what allows Simon to break out of it if he was put in there to be trapped.
Otto said Simon would have no problem with the Source Wall Kyle created but said Simon would at the very least struggle with the real version.
is it so hard to say its fairly inconsistent
Nigga they gave Kyle pretty much everything under the sun with extreme leniency. Him getting life equation at all is bullshit already
I don't think that's super valid for Kyle to be a theme. He doesn't really do it with any sort of intent, miracles happen around and to him rather because of his decisions.
Fuck it we drill
Using everything in Simons catalogue but limiting Kyle to one cosmology because of it being "inconsistent" when that same argument could be made for Simons extra material but of course, benefit of the doubt for Simon.
They both only have one cosmology. I don't really know what you're talking about. What could be called inconsistent?
He already resisted a better form of probability/fate manipulation with the anti life equation (when it's not downplayed to all hell)
How is it better?
Rarely is a "could" with Simon, also love the downplay of Kyle getting stronger just means he'll stay in the fight longer and not rise in power like Simon, that was also a funny one.
They already said he could get stronger, just that his adaptation isn't as potent as Simon's.
They were tied on Kratos vs Asura if I recall.
When you see them all lean like this it's a good indicator of bias.
As per the red truth
"anon was dead before this was ever posted"
Using everything in Simons catalogue but limiting Kyle to one cosmology
They straight up gave Kyle scaling to fucking Vertigo dude.
probability/fate manipulation with the anti life equation
The Anti Life Equation is not "probability manipulation" it's just mindhax. Morrison also wrote both Kyle getting BTFO by probability cancer and Kyle resisting the ALE BTW
also the "toll on his body" can be easily healed with the other rings.
The point is that he has to manage that, plus Simon attacking him with a tremendous amount of bullshit at the same time while also growing potentially stronger and faster nonstop over the course of the fight and he loses energy from his ring. Kyle has way too many instances of getting drained, tired, etc. which is not the case for Simon once he reaches his strongest forms.
Rarely is a "could" with Simon
They basically said every single thing Simon could throw at Kyle except for the probability shit would probably fail dude. I don't know what more you want.
In other words... GATTAI DAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
on the second one yeah but first one they had Kratos stomp Asura. Simon won comfortably for both
he kills simon by accident
lol
Neither G1 nor Otto brought up that Kyle can just absorb Simon's willpower.
They mentioned the power drain in the blog. Simon's was just deemed way more potent combined with generating far faster on top of it.
first one they had Kratos stomp Asura
Do they take his anti-feats into account at all?
I'm assuming because DB is leaning more towards nu-kyle when he's more nerfed.
It's not power drain its willpower drain. It's different.
is that shin chan anon
Simon already outpaced being drained as SGGL, let alone TTGL or STTGL.
Immeasurable speed rocks BTW
but he's draining his emotion!
If it's not more effective in surpressing willpower than the Multiversal Labyrinth then it's a dud.
That seems more like he can only do that because they have rings on em.
The multiverse labyrinth's purpose was to drain them into permanent complacency and stagnation. An attempt that would just lead to Simon fighting it and getting stronger.
what are the chances "willpower" will be a category tomorrow
Same difference. Simon's will growth simply outpaces him massively
90% certain
I wish they would be consistent in their categories.
The labyrinth suppressed willpower by being a false reality. It didn't suck his willpower out of his brain. And the labyrinth worked for hours if not days.
Boundlessly outerversal rocks you mean.
Most likely. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the philosophical tiebreaker with Simon taking it "by a hair"
I often wonder why people ask for rematches. That kind of implies you still trust the DB staff to make a good research.
Ring put a ring somewhere around one of Simon's atoms.
It feels like it'll be
power - Kyle
speed - Equal
intelligence/skill - Equal
hax - simon
With Willpower deciding
boobs increase spiral power
Could your favorite character get through OUTERVERSAL wallmart?
No one actually thinks they're good researchers.
Yeah I'm thinking it will be this with willpower also conflating stamina
Post any witch destroying an universe, otherwise they are lore frauds (akin to JEETos).
My HERO shops there for groceries
I get rematches for really old matches where they don't show any cool calcs. but anything modern would be stupid for a rematch
Wait, hold on
Setting calls all space 3d
then they cite a Schrödinger's Cat metaphor that absolutely botches quantum mechanics
Then they cite some guy name dropping quantum mechanics
Then they do some cope well ACKSHULLY in quantum mechanics applied CORRECTLY in REAL LIFE this would mean infinite cardinalities
Yeah they're sub 5d
UN-FUCKING-DEFEATED
I can post Earthworm Jim destroying a universe instead
To be fair, their argument for why Simon could resist LE level EE was literally just
Uhhh Nia didn’t die when the AS was probing her for info
Which would be like saying that Probability Missiles wouldn’t work on Kyle because Doctor Fate can reach out of the comic book and throttle you so Kyle can just avoid them entirely. They absolutely made dumb arguments.
Put your trip back on Otto.
like 20 random civilians willpower are enough to make hal reach a "a height never before reached". Yeah dude, ok.
This is where kratos gets his outerversal lunchmeat for his boundless sandwiches
Better animation/presentation obviously? Plus like it or not plenty of people do still like DB end of the day.
20 more wills is still 20 more wills. Imagine what taking Simon's will would do.
those 20 men have spent the last 40 years on nofap anon
Infinite power flows from this body. It is given form. It is given human shape. Feelings overflow. Words pierce the heart. Nia speaks. "Even if we are trapped in the cycle of cause and effect!" Yoko prays. "The feelings we have left behind will open the door!" Leeron preaches. "Even if the infinite universe tries to block us!" Viral roars. "These tears of blood will decide our fate!" Simon shouts. "Break through the heavens and dimensions!" Everyone rubs together. "We'll pluck them out, and find our own path!" The universe trembles. "Who do you think we are!"
It's G1. Some of them are actual vsbw posters. They suck ass.
likely. they're basically just about even in every category except that one. both can go at light speed. both have counters for eachother to learn eachother's powers (spiral scan and ring analyzer) both can absorb energy, and both have dead girlfriends. but Simon just completely decimates Kyle in the endurance and willpower factor here. you can debate if experience is much of a factor here but I just see Simon taking this more often
Heard you were looking for a good matchup.
Nia can resist existence erasure for a month
Simon is a bajillion times more powerful and experienced with Spiral energy than Nia
I mean, it checks out fine, you just don't like it
Nigger...Nia resisted it via willpower. What do you think is Simon greatest strenght?
Take your meds schizo.
fuck off listroon
scales to Simon
DC bros... a pigmole can solo our entire multiverse...
Being mind probed and raped counts as existence erasure
Really?
they were talking about how nia should have been erased after the antispirals were destroyed
infinite power
break through the heavens and dimensions
Uhoh, DCbros!?
Boota is fucking powerful
The VS games did establish their psycho powers are the same thing but they also established Athena sweeps Bison without even breaking a sweat
strenght
The Anti-Spiral was very obviously not giving his all. You might as well scale Kyle beyond the Source itself because Atrocitus controlled Spectre for ten seconds and Kyle’s a bajillion times stronger than the both of them. I’d buy into the argument if, you know, AS wasn’t like
Haha wow I’m surprised you’re still here. Anyways.
How about you make me
Nia should have completely ceased to exist once the anti spiral was gone but forced her existence for a month until the wedding.
oh my god were you so focused the ntr rape shit to notice she was being erased from existence? she was in pain because he was basically KILLING HER.
She does sweep Bison based on the feats Athena has in her own verse. But am surprised you said the VS games support it too
what do you mean
Yeah, this. Nia resisted her own existence erasure.
Yeah they're pissed. Even when they gave Kyle basically everything including stuff he really shouldn't have.
black Bison
listroon... you didn't tell us you were one of THOSE posters...
Nia resists her own existence erasure, Simon is stronger
Simon is implied to be able to resurrect people
even if Simon is about to be erased, he could probably resurrect himself
this is after they twice surpassed being "beyond dimensions"
Nia had spiral power to keep her alive. If anything its an anti-feat that her spiral power was considered significant to contribute to STTGL but ran out after a month of sitting around.
Why does reddit care so much about kyle lol, no one cares about kyle.
why does everyone keep posting this picture from a famous japanese erotic novel while posting unrelated green texts. I don't understand
Its just the shading i think
what verses have transcendental negation?
It's not Kyle specifically. They're just DCfags who don't want a DC herald to lose. Especially one that just got jerked off into being more powerful than fucking Superman
what if kyle wins
Simon consumed a real multiverse
What a fucking monster. How is this genocidal maniac anyone's hero?
this place will have a huge melty
She was being converted to data and someone from the outside helped stop it. Therefore the guy who helped could dl it to save himself without intervention from his friends.
Simonfags have strokes. Simon probably will lose since the last time G1 went all-in Bardock lost.
it's not kyle
it's DC
DC subhumans have the biggest victim complexes on the planet while simultaneously jerking off over their fucking kiddy comic verse's superiority over all else (that they don't even read half the time)
tomorrow if simon wins i guarantee they will say he lost because it's picking on a c-lister
He's got a rad cape and sunglasses
Annoyance and probably cuckposting for a week before people move on. Simon winning basically means eternal meltdown because DCfags will never ever hear the end of it.
LOOK AT HIM GO
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Data conversion counts as EE? Do they think fucking Tron has EE?
Unironically? Xeelee Sequence.
why didn't simon resurrect nia or kamina if he can do it
I mean, if you are a png file and i threatened to rewrite you or delete you, thats kinda EE, dont you think
They have been saying Kyle scales to Superman for months. If Simon beats Kyle it basically means Simon could beat Superman too.
because he realized that he has to move on
playing god is bad
The whole point was about moving forward and being responsible with godly power. Reviving those lost is moving backwards and getting stuck in the past while a drill is all about moving forward.
I care about Kyle. I only like him and Barry, literally the only DC characters I care about, so I want him to win.
so the ultimate good in TTGL is to be a loner no wife loser hobo...?
Because he doesn't want to abuse his power for selfish desires?
why do you like kyle and barry but not hal and wally?
Simonfags don't care about consistency
They don't care about characterization
They don't care about storytelling or themes
They just want to watch any given DC character with a modicum of power die
You were always upset Benfags mad that instead of everyone glazing your boy after his debut they memed scissors and boot. Nothing has changed.
because unlike Kyle he can be responsible and control his power without crying to throw it away or becoming cosmo hitler
If he turned it into a habit he'd cause the spiral nemesis.
again, in english
Curing a disease is playing God
Simon never said he could do it
Simon clearly wanted Nia to live.
Fucking cope.
How's the glass house holding up?
THE LIFE EQUATION WILL ALLOW KYLE TO WI-ACK!
you don't understand guys. I HAVE to eat out of this garbage can and sleep in a dumpster! It's all about moving forward! Grit your teeth, hold your nose!
Genociding the anti-spirals with a giant robot
That's not playing God.
Curing a woman's sickness
That is playing God
This is such bullshit cope.
Watch the show before posting here.
uh-oh
KEK & ROO
That's delving less into Simon's abilities and more about the implications of the ending thematically. That's a whole other discussion.
Nia
He made a choice to not upend the natural order of life and to respect Nias wishes and let her fade away
Kamina
Kamina brought himself back from the dead
Kamina canonically the weakest spiral energy user with the lowest personal reserves
still able to bring himself back from the dead anyway
DCucks how can we compete
Simonfags are so obsessed with winning they will without hesitation argue that Simon is an exemplar of the best of humanity while claiming he destroyed an infinite multiverse full of infinite people but found curing his wife of a disease was a step too far in playing God. They're mentally unwell.
As opposed to someone spending hours spamming cuck copypastas and denying the endless feats proving he is retarded lmao
thats what i hate about the ending, Nia is not dead yet, she is holding strong, is like having the cure of cancer and refusing to use it once because it would be unfair to the other people that died of cancer before
the coping has begun
Gurren Lagaan tells a better story than anything Kyle has been in
sickness
the AS outright said if he died she'd die too.
Kylebros... it's over...
Sorry Nia. I can commit infinite genocide and be fine with it but if I keep your bony ass around another day I'm just not going to be able to sleep at night
Why is he so cute?
Because it wasn't a disease retard. She was literally a part of Antispiral. As in, when Antispiral dies, Nia dies
So this is Spiral Power....
be Featherine
wake up from your crazy dream
you're a mid novelist and Battler is some guy on a wheelchair who wrote forged vsbw material or something
What did they mean by this?
Because the spiral power inside her without any extra power from him is finite and drains.
Simonfags will clap for this.
Kinda like adding a new hat to a worn out one-trick doll.
Kylebros
Call them what they are, DCfags. Nobody cares about Kyle.
The meltdown from the blog coming out has been fun to watch I don't even care about the actual results now
Depends on the match. Something like Ben VS Hal could do with an update even if Hal still wins. Have Ben incorporate more aliens and have Hal actually kill Alien X instead of pulling one of the most punk ass wins ever.
I like how he turns into a jack o lantern at times
Murdering infinite people
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA
Healing one woman
Ah, sorry, you wouldn't want me to play god or something right?
Don't say the actual results will be funnier live
guy who could have saved his gf but doesn't out of principle
VS
guy whose gf got killed and he still can't get over it after ~30 years
nah
I do. I want to see the DCfags get dunked on twice.
also before anyone says
but the morale of the story.....
there is a reason SRW fucking retconned her death
Having all the feats in place really puts things in perspective.
Here's the Anti-Spiral erasing the existence of boobs, a feat Kyle has never performed even with the Life Equation.
I don't know. Stacking the odds like this against Kyle feels like priming him to win.
Survival of the fittest LEONAAAARD!
Oh hey bud! Nice of you to drop by! You enjoying your time on the 4chinz?
Supermans dials go up to 11
but a drill keeps going forward endlessly and with no limit
DCucks, how do we cope?
Ben vs Hal animation always felt like they didn't have time to make a new animation to properly show off how Hal stomps Ben and threw together the ending of the fight last minute after the research was done
Stacking the odds
They gave him everything. If anything they were being super generous to him.
MY VILLAIN
Casual conceptual erasure
Yup yup
I mean in terms of votes.
That pic
Yes, Simon does beat Superman.
Because I find Kyle and Barry more endearing. I also like Thawne a lot, his and Barry’s characterizations in the 2016 run was really nice in my eyes. I think Kyle is a flawed and more ‘realistic’ interpretation of someone who’s randomly been given a fuckton of power on an afterthought and that makes me enjoy him more. Plus I just think they’re both cool.
Captain Hero will save the day on this one! Only to realize he fucked up because he's an ass man
I'm so tired of hearing 'stacking the odds' shit
dude they're stacking the odds because Kyle is a DC herald!
dude they're stacking the odds because Simon is NLF: the anime character!
dude they're stacking the odds because Kyle's preview made him infinitely fast and powerful in base!
dude they're stacking the odds because G1 gave it 15-0!
We have nothing to go off of at this point, just wait for tomorrow
But again, what exactly guarantees the result people are expecting from? Most of the time rematches from what I've seen are asked by disappointed fans from an outcome they disliked, I rarely see someone watching just for the sake of violence.
vsbw material
Still jobs to WoD fodder mage
SAD
the overall message is the Simon was fighting for a better future for everyone. but if there's anything he learned about the spiral nemesis, it's that he has a responsibility not to abuse his spiral power for selfish needs. I'm not saying you have to like it, but it's at least understandable
THE DIALS GO TO 11!
BITCH WE BREAK THE DIALS OFF!
people will still claim Nia wasn't existing erasure when the anti-spiral can do retarded shit like this
lmao
this is the evilest mother fucker in existence
You were always upset Ben- *SHLRRRRRRRRRRRRR-POP!* QUIT MOVING YOU LITTLE WHORE I'M NOT EVEN CLOSE TO GETTING IN YOUR JAILBAIT THROAT
Literally no one there who voted and researched in the blog has anything close to an idea of who DB believes wins. What the fuck are they priming.
I don't think it's that deep, I think it's just they treated it as being a standard mid season semi-filler episode and didn't expect Ben to have such a huge dedicated fanbase.
Redditard genuinely trying to argue that a novel written by the author of TTGL, that doesn't contradict anything is on the same level as DC retarded, inconsistent, and constantly retconning cosmology
This retard doesn't know that Kyle "beast feats" are him doing it by accident
THAT FUCKING MONSTER
not saying I disagree with you, but did you read waid/morrison's wally and still came away with him feeling less relatable than barry?
Anon Babble's hero btw
he has a responsibility to lay around in a dumpster all day and never get a girlfriend or make anything of himself because getting a job or doing literally anything with your life is selfish
got it, time to quit my job
It is weird that people accept the labyrinth representing an entire real multiverse being absorbed for power and don't get that it pretty much means Simon has become the Spiral Nemesis and everything else later in the show is an ironic farce because the Anti-Spiral is now the hero. It's like the guys that take Superman smashing the crisis anvil to mean he destroyed an infinite multiverse. They realize that means Superman killed untold numbers of innocents, right?
Also, everyone talks about Nia but forget poor Kittan. Like what the hell, if Simon can revive the dead why didn't he bring him back for the STTGL merger?
anti-spiral can erase fucking breasts from conceptual existence
can't stop Nia from regenerating
this is long before Nia and Simon become beyond dimensions btw
They mention that. Nobody who died in the endgame got a pass
superMANIAC...
including the stuff he really shouldn't have
What is this, the Bill analysis?
Kittan was already dead and he was part of the final speech double helix shot.
When you vote in a blowout for a character in a "break the rules and do the impossible" themed match you are priming them to win. If it was a blowout for Kyle they would be priming Simon to win.
One less call center scammer in the world
Kyle doesn't really do that of his own volition though. His is basically RNG based while Simon's is conscious effort.
He died before the labyrinth, TTGL, and STTGL. How is Simon going to rule lawyer the death of his buddy? Kittan deserved better. Even SRW doesn't let the poor guy live and they saved Lordgenome and Nia.
NTA but what are you even trying to say?
anon thinks a jeet call scammer is an actual job
you're giving them too much credit.
Cool
Shut up Retep
how do you miss a simple message like "don't be greedy and gluttonous with your power" like that
She likely could have stayed longer, but her desire was to stay to marriage because she understood as well as Simon that the Spiral Nemesis was a real threat.
An anime character who's 'multiversal' shit happens over the course of 3 episodes blowing out a cosmic comic character with over a thousand appearances who everyone says will realistically win tomorrow seems perfectly expected in that kind of framework
Don’t you have a UPS to shoot up?
Motherfucker, he saved the multiverse, give him some slack, if he wants to be a hobo, he deserves it.
I honestly thought if he was literally trying to suggverse but I think he like all sci-fi fags just wanted to make a horrible, miserable universe that explores IRL cosmology and limits.
It's because even though Simon is over Yoko and doesn't intent to go back he still wants her to suffer for ever picking anyone else over him.
True, but they've kind of forced Kyle into the theming given their statements about the theme.
The more you say that the "do the impossible see the invisible" character has no chance the more you hype them up to win.
Sonic scalers are also pretty bad.
don't be greedy, make anything of yourself after? like live in a house or want things for yourself? Or hell even get some tiny allowance so you don't have to rot away? what are you selfish?
Nia and Kamina would've wanted simon to waste away
lol
Not until 4
Simon low-key confirming he can straight up resurrect people, even someone like Nia who is made up of information. He just decides not to.
You know, I've already talked up how Hal was a better thematic fit for this match, but didn't Hal also have his hobo periods where he would wander the Earth?
lmao the DCtard spergout
he's saying that it's green flagging the underdog to 'go against the odds' and win. you know the whole 'everyone said it's impossible, he has no chance, it's a stomp' is just setting them up to defy expectations pretty much
feel like the ultimate message of the episode (if it's decided on willpower) is that even though kyle may hype himself up that way on paper he isn't quite like that in practice
Sounds like Simon is coping.
What? Where did you even get that, most characters moved on, the only one who became a hobo was Simon.
Genuinely asking. What was the context of this? Why was there a guy in his shower? Who is it who's even saying "his name is Lucas Simon"?
Also this realistically means that Simon can not only resist existence erasure on a level beyond the Anti-Spiral (since he defeated the motherfucker) but he can also resurrect himself or at least regenerate from basically nothing since Nia was already regenerating from erasure when Simon rescued her.
What's that, DC's record against anime?
I don’t think Wally is less relatable from Barry, far from it. I think that Barry is more endearing, like I feel more from seeing him try to succeed. I like characters who struggle more and fall on their faces at times cause the shit they do is hard.
Yep.
I'm saying sarcastically; that it's stupid for them to end it with Simon wasting away, because I know for a fact if Nia or Kamina were alive they'd tell Simon not to do that to himself, and to want better.
kyle had a green gf at the time
So you’re saying the g1 blog is setting up a Kyle win since they went with Simon?
More spergouts after the blog lol
reddit.com
Kyle's then gf cheats on him with some other guy because he's away on space missions too much.
Kyle went to space for a few issues because his assistant got gaybashed and he wanted some time alone for a bit. He came back and his girlfriend starting fucking this guy called Lucas Simon. They then break up. That's all there is to it.
Kyle’s GF cheated because Kyle was doing his job as a space cop. The person telling him who Simon is was his now ex. He started dating a Violet Lantern after that.
legendary Godzilla just became “possibly solar system level”
this makes him tied with Heisei as the most powerful live action Godzilla
Nipponbros, what the fucking fuck is this?
Rolling for Simonfags and Kylefags committing collective suicide.
This is fucking retarded
At no point anyone considers DC characters and their shit writting "underdogs" in Death Battle.
May as well post the rest
OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
3 - 0
lol u so mad
no anon, it's like an anime where all the characters go 'kuh he's got no chance' EVEN (YOU) and no one believes in the underdog, and then they turn up and defy all of us, it's meta.
Anyone that goes 0-15 is an underdog.
Kyle is MY underdog, buddy.
I have a feeling that Death Battle has drank deep of the vswiki koolaid for this one.
Except Batman...and even then it stopped being funny constantly killing him over and over as if the cast has no creativity whatsoever.
Didn't interpret it as him wasting away, just that he probably wanted to enjoy a simpler lifestyle since he was a simple guy. He likely would have done the same thing had Nia lived and just spent time with her.
I assume if Earth ever did get attacks or face problems again that he'd leap back in if necessary, but he wants the younger generation to surpass him first and foremost.
vsbw has simon higher than kyle lol
lost the G1 twice
lost the death battle cast
was specifically chosen to end the DC streak
Of course Kyle is the underdog.
Slippery slope, pal. Say he grants someone's wish and resurrects one dead person. Now he's obligated to rez ALL dead people that'd cause a mess and everyone will be begging him to do that nonstop. He'd be the living dragonballs. But then bam, he turns into the Spiral Nemesis cause he's weaker than the CHADballs that do just that.
Okay reading these actually makes me feel bad for Kyle. Y'all are some faggots for acting like he was okay with being cheated on.
Thats because they didnt give him armors and shit vs spidey, tchala or cap
....in a blog that's not associated with death battle and has no idea who the fuck they're nominating as the winner.
It's not like they can guess. They're not going to go 15-0 Kyle and write this colossal blog if they think Simon actually wins, that's legitimately retarded.
DB has repeatedly shown that their stats tend to vary wildly from whatever VS has. I don’t know why we’re acting like they care about what those guys post.
Kyle deserves a nia...you know..without the fridge and all
While Simon might have been able to destroy an omniverse..Uh...Kyle scales to a guy who scales to Superman who destroyed a gazillion boundless omniverses in a plank lenght
Kyle is going to make it. I can feel it. They call him a cuck. He'll call them loser.
Yeah no shit Sherlock, that's my point. They've downplayed DC for fucking EVER
With the 12.3D and specter scaling?
Get that shit out of here.
Simon is the one that is the one being pushed down to make DC comics look better.
I thought Barry's defeat of Thawne by forgiving him was pretty kino. How's the state of that? Was it retconned yet?
I don't think anyone actually hates Kyle.
They hate the retarded pajeet who nonstop makes up retarded bullshit to say a 14 year old child got 'cucked' and post this kind of shit to make him go away because he's clearly a huge Kyle/DCfag.
they did this with GODTOS.
kratos beat a guy who knew a guy who's cousin's twice removed friend once owned a cookbook that was made from a tree his acquaintance once chopped down that was pretty strong but only on a full moon...
No? Their ratings are actually way higher than they should be.
They got lots of 1-As too
According to vsbw, a lowballed Kratos negs Kyle too btw
You’re coping(?) hard if you think that Simon is somehow being pushed down. At this point I’m starting to think that the ones who downplay Simon the most are his own defenders.
Is there really no middle ground in reviving people from unnatural deaths and extending their lives into perpetuity? Just revive anyone that gets murdered.
Perpetua being gigaversal is hilariously out of touch with her actual feats kek
No one hates kyle because the opposite of liking is indifference.
No one CARES about Kyle.
He is the one in the show because people think that the white lantern is strongest.
Simon IS the one being considered strong for an anime character and the one that could beat a lantern just like Ben
They are intentionally making him lose to a B list Lantern to make DC look cool by being "strong"
VSBW has most of the DC characters at fucking multiversal instead of the planet/star level they actually are, they're not downplaying jack shit
buh buh buh but Simon!!!!!
Also 'just' a galaxy/universal character that we have to pretend is the way the fuck higher because DC faggots have the compulsive need to jack off their shitty verse into the stratosphere
they also have the ALE at outerversal unlike the other two
wins the G1 twice
wins VSBW shit
wins the DBcast
Nigger are you ACTUALLY retarded??? Simon is being given EVERYTHING. You're a petty little faggot for behaving like "OH MY DEAR SIMON IS STILL AN UNDERDOG" when he's not. He's being given everything to win tomorrow. Take your fucking Ws and get the fuck out of this thread you dirty streetshitter.
Yeah but do not remotely DARE say that vsbw doesnt have the DC cock in their mouths.
They have perpetua, thought robot, batman who kekes and other god tiers at 1-A
Hey hang on…aren’t you that faggot with the hypnosis fetish.
natural order, circle of life, drill go forward, don't fuck with it.
You know Arc-Gurren, who the producers confirmed as punching with the force of several universes to send an Anti-Spiral goon into some other space?
VSBW thinks Ben without any transformations is solar system level btw
So was Kyle in all of those. It's just Simon's everything>Kyle's everything
wins g1 twice
independant fan researchers. DEATH BATTLE IS USING THE ALREADY DEBUNKED SPECTER LIFTING FEAT AGAIN
vsbw shit
they have 1-A god tiers in vsbw they can 100% scale kyle into if they want it. Do not dare say they do not have DC comics at their highest possible rating
DB cast
yeah, the very solid researched podcast whose results reflect onto the show.
cope
Simon is the sacrificial lamb to the dc wank here.
Also 'just' a galaxy/universal character that we have to pretend is the way the fuck higher because DC faggots have the compulsive need to jack off their shitty verse into the stratosphere
absorbing an infinite universe is the same as DC fraud shenanigans
Well it actually shows how Arc-Gurren is above 3D as a whole already.
breaks like it breaks
I love Engwrish.
Kill yourself listtroon.
vsbw thinks Ben 10 is solar system level
That’s reasonable actually-
without any transformations
Lol
Never. Athena vs Bison is kino
nigga I said pretty much every DC character up to superman or so is planet-star level at best, which they are
fascinating. you think this will be brought up in the episode?
Counterpoint; Simon is going against the strongest of forces, something inherent to the mere existence of DB...SWANK.
Where did he forcibly sap their wills? Sounds like it just flowed through him
Indeed. Who the fuck thinks Kyle is an underdog when he is a FUCKING DC HERALD
well it's just more proof to how the show is already going bonkers by the time of Arc-Gurren. When Gurren Lagann hits space it gets serious
DCfags chimping out already over the G1
So much for being wholesome best buds regardless of outcome lmao. Two faced fags immediately go feral the second it looks their precious DC heralds are going to get beaten
we'll see. there's a good chance they throw out literally all untranslated material/novels/guidebooks for simon and literally just make him 11D universal level and that's it so he loses. we just have no idea where they're going to balance shit and no real precedent to go off of. they used fucking cookbooks for kratos and noncanon material for giorno but didn't use jap canon for megatron. it's all up in the air
Yeah, but Newton calculation doesn't bring audience.
Eventually people stop caring against formulaic shit. DB is still a show.
Somebody post that Tucker pic NOW!
No u, you don't understand....Uh....Several outsides sources (and FUCKING VSBW), said that Simon stomps. That obviously means he isn't the underdog (please just ignore vagintillion universal DC....)
wholesome best buds
That sounds like a reddit thing. You should go back there.
G1 says you lose 15-0
IN BRIGHTEST DAY
VSBW says you lose
IN DARKEST NIGHT
DB Cast says you lose
NO MULTIVERSE KILLER
You're a cuck
WILL ESCAPE MY SIGHT
Hal was always better
LET THOSE WHO WORSHIP
Bueno raped you
SPIRAL'S MIGHT
You have no feats and always lose
BEWARE MY POWER
Fridge Fridge Fridge
GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!
You're the type of retarded who looks at a full cake and spergs out demanding more. You. Are. Being. Given. Everything. To. Win.
For WEEKS you freaks have sperged about these two fucking nobodies, spamming threads with cuckshit, putting up retarded "multiversal planets and cells" shit, etc. I don't give two shits about who wins tomorrow, but you need to look at what you've got and stop acting like the fucking Raj that talks about his cuck pedo fantasies.
Kyle wins? Cool.
Simon wins? Cool.
This is such a fucking nothing matchup.
MY FUCKING HERO!
The thing is Kratos had the people's favor and they wanted him to win after the Spawn fiasco. Simon's got the same thing going for him here as people desperately want a DC Herald loss and Simon is the absolute best character to do with it both due to actually being able to do it and what he represents as a character.
Humans definition of what quantifies a "universe" regularly changes
Humans definition of what a "god" should be able to do regularly changes as we get smarter
Both nerf powerscaling
how fix?
wholesome best buds
You're a fucking moron. Simonfags and Kylefags were NEVER going to be friends. Have you seen them spam nigger cuck and fag porn through this entire week?
false flagging this hard
Yes. Was referring to the reddit link from earlier in the thread and got a laugh out of it
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Death battle is giving him 12.3D, the fucking specter feat, scaling to parallax hax, 12.3D Big Bang, SPEED FORCE SPEED SCALING, etc.
Fuck off.
DC is the oppressive shitty written overpowered verse here.
Simon IS the underdog
Counterpoint: ROW ROW
On the flipside you just know types like Swan love to go 'sorry guys. We know you REALLY wanted a win over a DC herald, but even after we reviewed all the feats (and saying this while they leave out otoko/novel) it just didn't happen this time'
I remember there have been at least 2-3 Death Battles framed exactly like this
We actually haven't seen Thawne come back from that somehow, outside of non-canon stories and nightmare sequences.
For all we know right now, Thawne is just living a happy life as a museum curator in the future.
NEW SCIENCE JUST DROPPED
en.wikipedia.org
Spacetime is required to have 26 dimensions to ensure the consistency and mathematical validity of the theory. This is a requirement derived from the mathematical structure particularly to required for conformal symmetry.
KYLE AND SIMON SUB UNIVERSAL BTW
I get the impression Swan doesn't actually have a vested interest in making DC win and doesn't care that much about who the lead researchers end up determing the winner is.
You mean the stuff that Simonfags have autistically debunked all week? You mean the shit given to him by G1 and he still lost?
You're delusional. Get out of here, jeet.
Important to take into account DB is changing with every passing year. Megatron vs Freeza wasn't that long ago but they could just as easily have changed from then.
w-we'll show those probability missiles who's boss!
Meanwhile the anti-spiral, who already manipulates probability to attack SGGL far before this, who is able able to control life and death and erase things from existence, going from being impervious to TTGL's attacks to screaming in pain after probability missiles fuck him. So even if you're using speedforce nonsense you cannot actually escape or even phase through these things, they're just that busted.
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Wouldn't it be funny if Simon just increased the probability of him blocking, resisting or dodging every attack to 100%?
swan makes dc win because no one likes dc winning.
ragebait views is what fuels death battle. Why doyou think goku vs superman was done 3 times and with the same result?
sub universal
BRING. ME. KYLE AND SIMON.
He's a general DC autist, but doesn't care enough to actually read Kyle's stories. What he did with the DBcast is basically what everyone else has been doing and jerking him off to general DC chain scaling saying he's infiniteversal, has life equation, and can do a bunch of one off shit. He ended up losing on that one though, but Kyle doesn't really seem like the type he'd get heated about.
You mean the stuff that Simonfags have autistically debunked all week?
That doesn't mean anything because in the end we're all waiting for the result from DB who is not these threads.
He does like DC. There's a picture of him online wearing a Superman costume.
ponyshit on Simon’s side
That’s it, switching to kyle
cope
SweetTooth
Are people actually mad about that?
HOW HAVE YOU POSTED THIS THREE TIMES WITHOUT GETTING FUCKED OVER
He hasn’t even researched since like two-three seasons ago.
Spiral Power is too strong
I agree. Simonfags and Kylefags stay coping and make way for the TRUE KINGS.
well with that it was just that they chose to exclude jap canon for no real reason especially when jap canon was what made the fight interesting/competitive in the first place. like obviously everyone knows G1 megatron is getting killed by even just first form frieza on namek, let alone black frieza which they decided to give him.
i do have the conspiracy theory that's because they knew they were feeding goku to superman for a third time and needed to placate the dragon tards, though
Speed force already jobs to probability manipulation btw
Yes. It was pretty bullshit
DURRR uhHhHh Joker like...convinces him to get out of his murder mech durrrr!!!
People think he should have one easily it seems
the extra dimensions are folded into microscopic structures
Nah you need this
en.wikipedia.org
by the way Avant Simon (along with all the other audio CD characters) can use their voice to just warp reality like they're from elder scrolls or something, given that Avant Simon is supposed to transcend from 2D into a higher dimension it makes the "the source wall is the edge of the comic page btw" comparison really funny.
Bros…. I don’t know who to root for
Kyle winning:
+would make this general implode
+speedy wants Simon to win
-another fucking DC herald win
Simon winning:
+DC herald loss (based)
+Reddit implodes
+jeet spammer loses
Nah, Kyle was in Morrison's JLA. TTGL doesn't hold a candle.
IDW Megatron would slaughter Frieza.
Don't sell it short. Simon winning would assuredly make this general implode far worse than Kyle winning
But it would implode in a good way. Not every implosion is the same.
G1 gave kyle WAY the fuck more than death battle will give him. They called him outright the strongest being in DC bar the Overvoid and Presence and said he'd win off the orange light and near full control of the Equation which I don't see happening in the episode.
To be fair they also gave Simon more power than DB will give him, but that was pretty much through the R > F transcedence autism and some Otoko stuff. The vast majority of it was stuff you could reasonably get from just normal anime/movie Simon like resistance to existence erasure or growing infinitely in power.
You've more pluses for one than the other, it's simple
Speedy likes Simon
...people like him are who's rooting for Simon?
+speedy wants Simon to win
Has he ever commented on the match?
Yes actually, he says Kyle’s arguments are garbage
Pretty sure Joker’s wincon was using his gas at literally any moment in the fight.
...In a clothes folding competition.
IDW was exactly what they used for that match and he got bitchclapped hard, Alternity is where it's at or maybe Unicron Trilogy if you wanna make it a bit more even
Always go against the spedophile
But indians are pedophiles tho
Source?
Counterpoint
++++++++++++++++Swan on suicide watch
ok, then I'll root simon so I don't have to be on team swan
Alternity is just a timeline split for JG1 and funnily enough weaker then Golden Megatron since they're said to be weaker then JG1 Unicron
All in on Simon. anyone feel the same?
Which way my fellow autists?
No wonder they love green lanterns so much...
We don't even need that scan anymore. We now have Kyle straight up jobbing to probability cancer (and Wally too kek)
And this was written by Morrison too so you know it's bad if even he says Kyle jobs to this.
Swan literally smiling like a child seeing an ice cream truck when they showed the preview
I don’t think Kyle losing would impact him that much.
"underdog heaven" my ass
In what universe is Hal Jordan an Underdog