Simon REDEEMED all featsCHADs after the disaster that was Krasura. Everyone, pay your respects to the new king of DB.
Death Battle
Tom is going to win
He got cucked though and killed himself via train.
Simon REDEEMED all featsCHADs
With interviews and art books made years after the show?
Kratos interviews make him weaker than his obd profile...
DC heralds are weak
Kyle was always meh, Then Simon makes sure to not piss off Wally West and Hal Jordan, Mainly Wally West because God forbid Wally doing to everyone what he did to to Inertia til the Rogues caught the fucker depowered later for killing Bart Allen, or the fact that God really loves him.
My cosmology is so TINY compared that compared to other verses it might as well not even exist.....
Simon can't actually lose. Because Simon represents the peak of humanity's infinite potential, which in itself is limitless and thus so is Simon. He'll win because he has to. Simon losing is humanity itself losing. The mechs never mattered. All that mattered was Simon's understanding of what he was, is, and will be. He will always rise to become stronger than the force that opposes him, so long as he has the drive to do so.
So no. Wally and Hal can't beat him. The only thing that can beat Simon is Simon giving up on Simon. That's the point.
DC……
Good match up suggestions for 40k?
Bring me Simon…
17 in cat years is pretty old.
Angron vs Atrocitus?
Godzilla
Hulk
Can either cuck beat the REAL scientific horror?
Yoko jobs to the GREATEST Super Robot girl btw
SayakaCHADS…
Prometheans led by the Didact vs Necrons led by Imotekh the Stormlord
Garro vs Nightmare
IMO Warhammer Fantasy has better and more interesting MU's
Okay so according to the Audio CD translation, Avant Simon can BUFF himself even further with "Salivary Gland Power", which I guess works like adrenaline. It's through this power that he's capable of becoming Granzeboma.
Lordgenome: I see, this power... It's Salivary Gland Power!
Salivary Gland Power?
Lordgenome: That's right, a power that humans can only utilize rarely... Also called "superhuman strength in the face of danger," this max power can't be used unless you've overcome your limits... I'd heard rumors of it, but to think it truly existed...
Rossiu: Salivary Gland Power... What a ridiculous name. But when I hear you proclaim it like that, Master Lordgenome, I can somehow still believe it...!
Avant Simon: I see, so that's what you call it here in this world. But Salivary Gland Power, the power of inertia, whatever you want to call it - it doesn't matter! As long as I have this power, you can't match me.
Considering DC and its nonsensical cosmology wank? Yes. If we’re going purely by feats, no statements nor context whatsoever, Simon still wins.
No one cares about Simon the Nigger and Kyle Gayner anymore. The battles done.
Talk about the next match up.
Chat, I genuinely misread “jaws” in Kyle’s dislike category as “Jews”
Unfortunately GW makes Toei look outright legally negligent in terms of how C&D happy they are.
Thragg has the right idea, Why won't Clark and Goku have 50 kids each and rebuild their respective races?
ToonBITCHES coping and seething
For the anon that was asking if Spawn could beat Simon: while he has strong bullshit powers via his magic hax and beating Satan in his own realm, it's not really that impressive to the stuff Simon does by the end of his series
His only salvation would be the divine Spawn form,but he legit just get trashed by Gurren Lagann regardless of.
Bros… odds Godzilla can actually keep the Anon Babble wins and capeshit deaths coming?
Goku cares about martial arts more. why Vegeta the PRINCE won't do it is a bigger mystery
Superman bro btw, also I'm not crying you are!
How exactly do we talk about Coyote vs Cat? I guess we have Courage vs Scooby, but even that had some 'grounding' to it. Wile E doesn't really have anything of the sort, he's more or less the loser inherently... but Tom has been in stories where he's been grounded in nature.
Composite Godzilla will get STTGL scaling from SRW before he even gets Singular Point feats, Ultima neg diffs Hulk.
Yo
"Who the hell do you think I a- Huh? What is this package? ACME-Spiral? What does that d-"
BOOM
TTGL fizzles into ash, as well as Simon's glasses for comedic effect
"AIIIEEEE! MY MECH! WHO DID THIIIS?? YOKO SAVE MEEEE.... Y-Yoko? Where a-"
Yoko's arm is draped around Tom's shoulder as he sings
"IS YOU IS OR IS YOU AIN'T MY BABY"
"Y-YOKO!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH HIM? YABBADABBADOOOO!!!"
"Don't you believe it?"
They did though. 100% of humanity can go Super Saiyan. Here's a prime example of Bulma's descendant with Goku's descendant.
Also kek
The KING of the Lantern Corps…
Reggie vs sseth (YouTube vs youtube)
Sukana vs Muzan
Did it
Nah, he did the Luke Skywalker before Luke Skywalker
Tsukasa Yuzaki vs Sato (Ajin)
Anyone have the bingo? Any winners?
There was no way in HELL Simon would ever lose to Bueno Excellente's rape victim.
Kyle is so wholesome
This garbage needs to be a banable offense. Getting real sick of seeing e celeb shit constantly spammed.
VS debating has been a thing since the dawn of time. Especially on the comic book side of things. Its as Anon Babble related as you can get.
nigger
Who should he go up against?
DEBATING yes. Sucking off some faggot's fanfic? NO. And if you can't tell the difference you're a genuine retard.
People are trying to say kyle is the strongest dc character now? Is that true?
reminder that this ep means Anti-Spiral mogs the Anti-Monitor
Lol no.
Why are those smurfs being unreasonable? He wants answers.
He is according to Death Battle
Nah. DC rolled with it because they wanted to make it either "fair", or make Simon victory even more impressive (by soloing composite DC).
you fought well, kyle. I'll never forget you as long as I live
M.U.G.E.N Ronald Mcdonald
deathbattle said kyle was composite dc
Uh when?
Is the phantom ring and white ring the same or is it different?
Adult Yoko's tits vs DCverse since that one anon made note of it
HE SCALES ABOVE THE ANTI MONITOR, AND HAS 6D POWERS, AND HE SCALES FAR ABOVE THE SPECTRE, AND AND
Cmon anon, just conscede that you got blown out of the water hard this time.
The DC smurfs being assholes is not a new thing
Death Battle is made by retards.
Wanked wise yes or at least one of em
being scaled to other characters is composition of the entire setting
So why didn't they bring up the batman so laughs? Superboy prime? Cosmic armor superman? If kyle was the entire dc universe then bring up the actual strongest characters he would be above.
Tom n Jerry will win: breakdown
iirc Wille and Roadrunner have NEVER EVER worked together as a team, Tom and Jerry have better teamwork they are capable of putting their differences aside to defeat a common enemy, they've done so numberous times and even in the new movies
Jerry has been shown to take as much punishment at Tom, being slapped, kicked, thrown from heights, blown up you name it, Roadrunner has never been shown to be resistant to damage due to plot armor of him being the "good guy" in Road runner eps, he simply is to fast to get hit or just conveniently avoids damage which means he probably isn't very durable.
As for Anime Manga vs Comics, I think it can be said that western comics need to stop focusing on retarded feats of power and work more on developing personalities, the reason people like Naruto, MHA, TTGL is seing the mc go from being weak to their prime and the story ends, Whats the point of even universe resets like new 52 (or whatever number their at now) if you "low ball" on panel on the hero bench pressing like 500 earths for a week straight for a series that's not meant to end?
I am not capshit fag, much less a DC one, but prety sure that the specter at his peak overshadows them by a long shot.
DCope
Getter > anything else
Cosmic Armor Superman was the construct he used against TTGL
I KNEEL TO KINGMON...
Tom and Jerry get Journey To The West scaling
Bros...
Otto are you ok????? Jesus Christ.
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Im glad we get a comfy episode next time where I don’t care who wins as I can just enjoy toons I equally enjoy. I think Wile E. Probably wins though due to all of his tools.
Sun Wukong (the Monkey King) did lose to the Buddha in the classic Chinese novel Journey to the West. After Wukong's rebellion against heaven, the Buddha challenged him to jump out of his palm, which he failed to do. The Buddha then imprisoned Wukong under a mountain for five centuries.
So barely mountain level?
Uhhh, if LE Kyle is composite DC why did he lose to a DC character?
strongest dc characters according to the deathbattle threads
1. Kyle reynar
2. The anti monitor
3. The specter
4. Wally west
5. Darkseid
That guy he lost to scales to all of DC’s cosmology now
Powerpuff Girls vs Three Fairies of Light
So Simon should beat all of the DC characters on DB except Superman and Zatanna by their logic? He should beat all other characters except Popeye.
No lies detected.
... Because he beat him? But the guy I posted beat Kyle too
Does Zatanna and Superman scale above DC’s cosmology? If so he loses if not then he beats them as well.
How fast is Ultima’s growth? Because you have to remember that when it comes to these cosmology wars, they tend to equalize so they go for stuff BESIDES the stat Trinity since they end up having meaningless speed and power feats.
Hulk went from base to first firmament levels in a single conversation. They could argue Hulk can amp himself faster than Godzilla without absorption
You guys know a ton of high tiers scale above anti monitor right?
Ultima's true form is Infinite-D
DB Kyle is a lot stronger than actual Kyle.
So enough to defeat the coyote?
And Simon just gaped all of them since Kyle got put above Spectre.
That’s not really an answer. Infinite dimensions have been used as well, but like they said with Simon, being able to make the jump from “Wolverine can slash me” to “I can break chains that bound the avatar of Marvel’s first cosmology” is some pretty insane acceleration.
While the One Above All is the cosmological apex of a hierarchy, it was also notioned to be at the bottom of another hierarchy.
KEEEK, so Marvel's literal GOD is a bottomfeeding BITCH???
Show me Godzilla Ultima destroying a universe
And you can add Hal to the list. Kyle lost because his willpower capped. Hal was beyond will. It's sad but accurate that Kyle lost because he's not Hal.
Enter
How bad will the salt be when Godzilla eviscerate’s Hulk with TOBA scaling?
He has many times according to the novel, it's his passtime
I think they did have them both scale above the cosmology. I think Simon stomps Superman though. Zatanna? More up in the air.
Doesn’t Simon’s will cap?
That and historically, Hal handles cosmic power post Parallax better
Here comes the cope!
Deathbattle wanked Kyle. He's not even multi continental
Out of context feats and powered mainly by statements
Chuck Norris fodder
He admitted Kyle should lose
They point out Ultima doesn’t destroy universes with raw power. He does it by breaking down the laws of physics over time
Do you niggers want to see something scary? This is official btw Don't ban me jannies
I believe you owe him an apology, otto. say sorry. now
Coyote would TANK that.
No, dude only ever doubted himself like once in battle and like maybe partially one time on what hummanity should be doing post time skip but after that never, he will was never shook past those points.
hal
Pre-timeskip yoko victim
It's really funny how it's just this one gigachad in this silly ecchi mecha anime that's all about the power of the human spirit just happened to become the most powerful character in fiction BOTH with his on screen feats and his statements with a maybe less than 2 hours of worth of animated content and a few guidebooks.
What an actual fucking king
Hulk breaks down into a pile of flesh and then nothing because Godzilla breaks the laws keeping him alive
Hulkbros…
TWO FUCKING HOURS of DCfag seething
Jerry gets to fuck THIS?
nobody scales above the spectre but kyle
Lmao
According to the episode, what made Simon win the three categories (why do they keep changing them?) was that his growth could get his will over Kyle's which started out as greater.
Another reason they cited was that the LE was as much a detriment as an aid to Kyle. Hal doesn't fumble with his ultrimate forms like Logos and GOL.
Immunity to time cancer and vector control along with being able to survive a time storm
Jerry gets to WATCH Tom fuck THAT?
Which is worse, losing to the same guy 3 times (Goku), or losing to three different guys (soon to be Hulk)?
Probably because each fight requires different factors
Is it a team fight or just Wile vs Tom? That changes things
I think Wile wins if it’s solo
Holy lmao, this was the guy the rajeet kept posting inbetween his autistic fetishposting
BatJOB
Iron Man victim.
Sure but it's not really relevant, the only reason it takes him time to destroy a universe is because it's like interacting with fiction for him. Like an Outer God in HP's books needing to use an avatar.
Goku can't be blamed for failing to beat Superman. That's a tall order.
Hulk meanwhile is just a chronic jobber.
My KING
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
The spectre and anti monitor are relative in power anyway.
3 different guys for sure imo.
Hulkbros we can’t even physically interact with that………..
I swear I saw him job to duck last week
This molerat annihilates the Speedforce btw
Spectre is sort of less than AM because he needed all the magicians buffing him to match AM.
Reminder that a lot of the positive reception to the verdict are just tranime fans that are happy they finally scored a win against a DC herald.
I can’t lie, I would be happy too. So I’ll tolerate your faggotry this one time.
It kinda does. It’s like comparing the Icon of Sin to Simon. One can throw universes like shurikens, the other has to rot it from within
VSBW says Spider-Man scales to city block level at max
Venom is outerversal
Carnage is planet level
Spiderbros.... When are we getting our anime power up....
True
With stats being someone equal and Simon going above, he did have better willpower than Kyle. I think Hal beats Simon due to more willpower which would counter but it would be high-diff
So does probability manipulation just solo all the Speed force users?
Yes
N/m it is Wile E vs Tom, I thought initially it was going to be a 2v2
I dunno. Thawne’s whole thing was that changing his past didn’t do shir until Barry grounded him.
Wallybros, Barrybros, Thawnebros……….
I feel like they could come up with some universal categories but on the other hand it's interesting to think of what future categories could be. What's Tom and Wile E going to get?
Lmao
KYLE WINS BECAUSE DC IS BIGGERRRRRR
Anti monitor is cool. They dont use him enough
yes lol
I thought he made his own negative version of it and no longer needs the speed force and scales above it right?
one of the comments seething that they're biased against DC
KEKAROO!
All this science babble and he still had some trouble blasting through some skyscrapers
Unironically beats Wally
I've seen idiots claiming White Lantern has infinite energy reserves lol
Probably no categories if they approach this the same way they did Scooby vs Courage, and just focus on what their specific weaknesses are
Or they'll be more direct about it being a vs scenario and do strength, speed, skill, powers, etc.
Yeah but ya gotta rmemeber like well, stuff that would apply to Simon wouldn’t apply to say, Bowser or Master Chief. They can t will themselves into power boosts, they need items or are static. That’s a factor that matters
These COSMIC MULTIVERSAL DESTROYING FORCES OF EVIL NATURE are barely destroying the city in the background
Zzzz...
The Guardians feel like they're above everyone JUST because they were the first sentient species outside of Heaven
Am I the only one who thinks this is really lame? This isn't a matchup people wanted out of love for two characters or to see a cool fight. They just wanted to see a DC character lose to an anime guy they like. No one cares about Kyle, he's just a stand-in for OP capeshit.
I watched it live and they got mad that someone kept posting “Show Kyle destroying a galaxy.”
Sure but again, he doesn't take time because he's weak. Just by virtue of being what he is he's way above Universal.
Not him, just his avatar. Cthulhu's avatar jobbed to a boat but he's still plenty strong.
To be fair, they called dibs
The FeatGOD (Simon) VS The Statement Squad (Kratos, Doomslayer, and Dante)
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO!
They literally said Kyle has infinite energy and can drain Simon of his
Kek
There are people who care they're just overshadowed by retards who smugly go DC wins lol fuck your fodder verse. Hell all the fan content around the match up proves people care
Well until he gets a feat of being able to punch universes in the face, he won’t get dogshit:
I'm telling you guys, all these faggot authors try and fanbases leverage science babble for powerscaling and always fail. Kudos to TTGL for at making a better attempt than capeshit.
Except all the times where he clearly gets drained of his supposedly infinite energy reserves which they bring up in the conclusion
No it’s a good thematic matchup despite the spite
Hal would’ve made more sense though
Yeah
Anti-Monitor is cool
Posts the lame redesign that makes him a shitty Darkseid knockoff
Yeah
Kylechads absolutely exist and ate well with this episode.
The opinion of DCsharts who only care about power autism should be disregarded on the other hand.
Lel
animefag whining about strong characters not destroying the planet by blinking
This fight actually got me interested in Green Lantern. Where do I start? There seems to be a bunch of them. Do I just start with Hal?
Everyone who isn’t a dbspic knows Goku is a fraud.
Uh, most would say the OG Rebirth and so on by Johns gets you up to speed and even has its own reading order in case you wanna go deeper into past issues
John Stewart's run, he's the best and least wanked
He thinks that shit matters to Wally West Aka the the Avatar of Shonen Hero bullshit and what everyone should strive to be and the very western superhero fucking Nasu and Tenchi Authors fanboys him.
People forgets how stupidly popular Wally was in the 90's to a point even GL lost to him and DC had no idea of what else give to him as a nemesis outside Hunter who couldn't scale to him anymore.
Also the fact that the JL production team had to Nerf him in the cartoon because at that time wally was insanely OP due to the entire "he is the speed shit they mentioned once when he murdered braniac to oblivion"
He can do it!
It just takes him a while
But it only takes a while because he's just toying with it
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Literally just this shit
Animefag
I posted a Anon Babblechad anime though, we know all about scope unlike the comedy anime you just posted.
So barely mountain level?
Anon, Buddha could imprison all DC villains under a mountain as well
capeshit lost
thank god
Anyways, dumping as much as I can from the xianxia chink Tom and jerry gacha.
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He's not toying with it, he just can't do it faster
I feel like DC wanks it's villains too much.
We now remember Batkek
Wally west jobbed to disaster's probability manipulation which is literally several infinities worse than Simon's
Through DB? Stupidly yes, nobody else really got the scaling he did, at most it was just a random tap into the speed force wank but they fucking put him above the anti monitor
Watch the part where they seethe over the post fight analysis lol
The
What
Wally didnt job to him retard, read again.
...i just dont get where this idea is that characters need to blow up the earth in a fight. Its fiction...
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Post hulk winning a death battle
Wtf
Why is Jerry always the girl
He could have casually killed Wally then let him live because he wanted Wally to suffer, dumbass
Do I just read the omnibus, then?
WHAT THE FUCK CHINA? HANNA BARBERA?
Because it’s pretty lame to make a bunch of universal times fucktillion characters if they can’t blow up a planet casually outside of specific circumstances.
Given the general timeframe of SP, the Catastrophe (Ultima becoming the Oemga Point and destroying the universe/multiverse) was going to happen in less than a week and by the time Ultima fully 'matures', it's right on the cusp of happening before Jet Jaguar PP intervenes and vanishes Ultima's manifestation via the Orthogonal Diagonalizer.
Betting right now the deciding category will be "Incompetency"
years upon years of DC history. WIPED OUT. BY AN ANIME WITH 27 EPISODES.
isn't that the guy who went
aieee
Less than a week…. A conversation. I might guve it to Hulk
DCfrauds are pretending their anti-feats dont exist again
I don't like TTGL. It's not how you do hype
Ultim actually does destroy universes with 'raw power' - him becoming the Omega Point involves growing to encompass and destroy all reality.
...for retarded people.
"You shall have your sunset. I shall command it. But, according to my science of government, I shall wait until conditions are favorable."
"When will that be?" inquired the little prince.
"Hum! Hum!" replied the king; and before saying anything else he consulted a bulky almanac. "Hum! Hum! That will be about--about--that will be this evening about twenty minutes to eight. And you will see how well I am obeyed!"
The king said he could control the universe…. If conditions were favorable.
Not really
This is another "Cookbook" situation with people parroting something without checking first what they said in the episode
They concluded that
Simon is WEAKER that Kyle
Simon's willpower is WEAKER that Kyle's
Kyle's creativity is above Simon's drill spam
BUT
Simon can grow ridiculously fast, like going from normal human to D11 in an instant so given enough time he WILL surpass Kyle on EVERYTHING
Simon has resistances against the big things that could take him down, emotional manipulation, casualty shit, etc plus Kyle can't rely on Life equation for his victory because he can't control it and could backfire, and on top of that Simon might just resist that as well
And on top of all this His wife has a busted regeneration feat that Gives Simon arguments to regenerate to a level of damage not even White Lantern Kyle could dish out so there's no way he takes advantage of his superior base stats to end the fight before Simon adapts
I like this outcome because he basically won thanks to his endurance, powerscalers usually ignore defense in their debates.
Oh, also Nia being a good wife also made Simon win, so this is the first Wife diff in the show.
Sato from Ajin
He solos your favorite character.
As it should be, Japan has the right idea of just retiring their heroes at peak not keeping them afloat infinitly when everyones power scaling mean they can do infinite shit and there's no longer threats/risk invovled.
Not El Santo
I chuckled
multiversal characters have to destroy planets by blinking or else... i can't believe they are Multiversal
This is why we get deathbattle saying Kyle is above the anti monitor. Despite kyle likely never destroying a planet or even universe. If he's above a guy who had done those things you wouldn't believe it.
The way Ultima's breath works is very weird - if you go by the novelization, it detonates entire inflationary volumes (universes) and ruptures space-time every time it's fired and the way it works per the anime means that it actually hits whatever it's being fired at before it's even fired. So from an actual temporal standpoint, those buildings where melted before Ultima ever fired his breath, because it had already destroyed them "in the future".
Anon Babblefag here, toast to Anon Babble for gaping capeshit
I think i heard it once that the only reason Wally isn't evil is because like OG Superman, Wally is too much of a nice guy to do bad things, and even the rogues respects him for even trying to fix their lives, even Grodd respects him as much as he hates him because wally never wanted to kill him.
If Wally was Evil with the powers he had, Nothing would stop him.
And yet TTGL faggotry jobs to >pic the original and the badass trio paved with sin, tragedy and madness
NTA but I agree with the conclusion but I feel Simon is definitely stronger and has more willpower, either way I am happy cause now I can shitpost
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0FEATSperor
Simon gets to have a debatable fight the most irrelevant green lantern of all time
Goku gets fed to the man who is DC itself
Bejita gets anally raped by Marvel's Superman
It's not fair
Post Getter Emperor doing anything other than representing a bad future.
Most irrelevant lantern of all time... Who DB turned into DC itself
Didn't watch. Did they give Kyle a cool construct mech to fight with?
Bring me Simon…
No it was just Superman with a white lantern logo
Thought Robot construct
DCbros…
What characters can Chaim to have a wife that gives them good scaling/feats like Nia did in this episode?
Nah, he just made fucking Balrog, a dragon, a golfer, a Construct of Superman with a Sword and Shield, and a Rainbow Drill to counter Simon's Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill Break in a nod to Simon vs Anti Spiral.
...so he can drill lola
DB really believes Kyle is stronger than Superman
Who DB turned into DC itself
Are we really going with this narrative?
Ran out of will
Couldn't regenerate from nothing
Couldn't control his power
Kyle lost because he couldn't do things Hal could.
I feel bad for Bugs and Mickey when their fight gets announced. Jeets are gonna post all kinds of furry cuck shit.
But Kyle likes anime right? Why wouldn't they make it a mech fight for the will based mech construct guys?
GIGAAAAAAAA
DRIIIIIIILLLLL
BREAAAAAKKKEEEERRR
You can actually see the infamous boot in the background when TTGL goes to stomp Kyle before Kyle goes White Lantern.
It's more like they have all the high-end and cosmic DC characters relative to each other in strength and speed and differentiate them based on the minutia of their powers.
They gave Kyle because Hal Jordan would be Rape and Wally West is Super Rape and Simon had to win something.
Its like WWF during the Kliq where KWAB chose his oponents knowing that he would win, and was scared shitless of Hardcore Bob Holly, Taker and Haku eating his ass worse than the sweltering summer of '92.
DB says Kyle is stronger than Hal.
When will it be his turn?
ran out of will
Is this the fucking cope you DCfags are pulling out? They literally scaled him above the entire cosmology, with more wank than they ever gave peak will Hal.
Bugs escapes the fight.
Draws Simon taking a huge white lantern cock construct
”Hehe. Ain’t I a stinkah”
Discord gets forced into a martyr loss because Speedy rigged it
...and other things I make up to cope with Simon gaping Destitute Comics
DCope
Probably because Simon defeating Superman construct is the closest thing to Superman losing on the show, and Goku fans will never let it go.
Ponyfag COPE
Damn, Lola (spce jam) and Minnie being plowed OH NOOO that would be so bad, hahahaha
Cause he's a DC character. I think it would be weirder if Kyle was basically entirely made into a Gurren Lagann reference and didn't homage his own universe at all.
Simon surpasses the paper and kills Bugs like Avant Simon did
HMOFAg…
Does this mean Super Robot Wars > DC?
How did simon kill kyle? I didn't watch the ep
PFFFTTT
Hi Speedy, are you still gonna leak your loli folder?
Have you noticed how Sci-fi series usually have a Blindspot against Magical stuff but fantasy series rarely have a Blindspot against Sci-fi stuff?
For example soul hax usually fucks over a good chunk of Sci-fi series because The tech oriented power systems don't acknowledge the existence of supernatural things like that.
Of course this isn't true for all Sci-fi series (Star Wars is a big example of a Sci-fi series that for the most part lacks a Blindspot against Magical shenanigans)
Greater, then proceeded to give him setting scaling off Hal and the Anti-Monitor. In an episode Hal would be in a similar power bracket so that he'd end up compared with Simon on the same categories
they flat out said that Kyle is stronger than Hal so Hal would get raped
Picture Kyle with similar power and speed stats but now he regenerates from nothing, doesn't run out of will, and has more powerful forms in which he doesn't lose control. That's Hal.
It's funny trying to see doomslayer fags trying to latch into Simon.
destroyed his white lantern ring, fairly tame, but they did it so Kyle could give Simon his green lantern ring at the end
that said you can clearly see which series they hate and which they like by how brutal the ending is
thinking Otto and the DCfags actually watched the episode instead of just skipping to the result and coming back here to seethe
Simon didn’t even get scaled to potentially killing Supreme God Z and Ende, both of whom come after the Anti-Spiral in the powerlevel hierarchy, SRW > DC’s cosmology
Does it matter? do you seriously want Supes to be DCgod? he can't have any weakness? can't lose to any other DC hero in more specilized fields like Speed (flashes), Will (lanterns), Brains (Batman, Luthor, Mr. Terific) and even magic? Why even have the other DC heroes exist?
DB retards takes their fucking facts off Narutoforums ODB wiki.
And that shit is outdated as fuck.
But again, they gave Kyle because Hal and Wally, mainly the later with simon being a retard and injuring his family during the fight, which would end in simon frozen permanently in time watching the replay of his defeat.
And they flat out said that Chief was still stronger than Samus and Doomguy and look where where are?
DB can't get their shit straight, they still take notes from ODB wiki.
Oh, so he still loses then because they said outright that Kyle is objectively stronger than Hal.
And they flat out said that Chief was still stronger than Samus
No they didn't, their death battle short had Samus obliterating Chief
Which actually brings to question could Spiral Power actually do anything to a high tier Toon Force user?
Yes
Other DC characters would also struggle or lose against Simon because (according to DB's reasoning) Simon can regenerate down to the "information" level, meaning that even a guy with A overwhelming power and Speed advantage would find hard to kill him before he grows stronger than them
I guess characters with multiversal Soul hax or something similar would be the ones with the best shot at beating him
That also means Godzilla > DC. But we knew that
Stats were irrelevant outside of Kyle starting stronger with willpower. Base level Hal could be given slightly lower stats than Kyle and still be in the same situation but now the points that applied to Kyle losing no longer apply to Hal.
Bugs level of Toon Force is like the Anti-Anti-Spiral Power. Bugs would just ignore Simon’s will.
DB retards takes their fucking facts off Narutoforums ODB wiki
Uh uh uh, I don't think you want to play outside of Death Battle. When you discuss solely within Death Battle's framework you get to ignore the fucking thousands of antifeats Hal and Kyle and every DC character have that Simon in his strongest form does not.
DCfags turning on their biggest wanker source just because it didn’t hand them a win for once
Triggerverse has toon force at a pretty great level with Infernocop and a few others. It's not impossible given how the whole "fiction got real" thing happened.
Hal has soul hax.
What's funny is they did this for Superman too back in the day but just ignored it even though they were the ones who built the composite using the solar energy reserve thing.
It makes more sense though when you realize this is an appeasement battle to Ben 10 fags using a character they don't care about to let a GL get killed as a sacrifice to shut them up. That said at least they picked someone who actually can beat the guy they're sacrificing this time.
Simon is the strongest character on Death Battle and you can’t convince me otherwise, they pretty much said it’s impossible to erase him since he can regenerate from even a informational level of erasure not just conceptual, plus mind control is practically useless against him since he broke out of a multiverse labyrinth designed to keep him sterile, AND they went with author statements of the galaxies being universes, I mean holy FUARK
Right then, imma go back to re watching the anime see ya peeps later, this was fun
I dont think they like marvel much if you see what they did to scarlet witch lol
It sure is tame here since kyle lost kek
Hal once synced with all the lanterns in the multiverse
Have Kyle use just one lantern
I do not understand.
Raj’s will got BROKEN from seeing his white idol job.
the point still applies: neither Kyle nor Hal can kill Simon before Simon surpasses them
Both Kyle and Hal actually gave in to evil at some point, Simon never did, that by itself already makes it possible for him to scale infinitely while we have clear examples of what happens if Hal tries to scale infinitely
SUPERMAN HELP MEEEEE
There is still Chuck Norris and Segata Sanshiro.
But there's a massive power gap between him and every other DB fighter at this point.
appeasement battle to Ben 10 fags
What are you basing this on.
I accepted it Spider-Man is never getting another episode
Kyle
OP
Everyone knows that
BatKek/Mobius Char Wally West Flashatthan/Golden Wonder Woman
Are the OP entities of DC
Steve Motherfucking Blackman would beat his ass
K, b, c.
Simon can't surpass Hal in will.
DCope
It is the fate of every Kyle Rayner fan, to job as Rayner.
Ah yes, the sub star level BEASTS...
Maybe we can give them Arc Gurren as a pity win.
Unless they wanna do a way more niche matchup like Yoko having a boob battle or something the only other TTGL matchup is a Rematch with Simon vs someone or the Anti-Spiral.
So for now, unless a greater featsman appears to fight someone else, Simon is basically the strongest.
I'm not a GL fan. I don't really even like most superhero comics that much.
I just hate TTGL because it's "Hype" feels meaningless and hollow. I don't care about Simon or Kamina or any of these things, and the scale gets so massive that I start not caring even more because I see all of this and think "Where's the adventure? Is this it?"
They can ramble all they want about human potential and infinite willpower but I don't feel any of that from TTGL. Just jingling keys and nothing that truly feels intensely personal. It's empty
HOLY FUARK, BATKEK IS…… LARGE STAR
LEVEL!
there is a reason of why Anon Babble called TTGL the normalfag anime bait that ruined anime talk forever.
Even Tenchi Muyo is better
Arc Gurren
Anon... Arc Gurren would annihilate them.
I disagree
We'll probably get a Hal rematch next season.
Damn, and all of DC’s cosmology JOBBED to that……..
Gainax/Trigger sloppa is just forgettable.
TTGL's 2nd season is pretty retarded, thats not really a hot take.
This doesn't have much to do with quality.
I get the same vibe I get from TTGL that I get from Toriko. It feels empty
Explain yourself
Ok cool, you've said as much
I mean aside from the fact that they throw bones whenever one of their battles pisses people off and money is tight or they're under corp scrutiny and evaluation like it is for DB right now?
Literally open up the fight identically to the Ben 10 battle after bringing up that people were upset about that one using a character from around the same era that was tweens first good mecha anime vs Diet Hal
It's not fucking hard really.
he can, Hal eventually ran out of willpower and turned evil, Simon infinitely gets more willpower
nah
They literally said the LE would have won if Kyle didn't suck at using it. They actually have the highest reaches of the DC cosmos as above Simon.
This is the path DCfags are taking to try and get any sort of revenge for getting gaped
Lmao
Hal kills Ben the sequel
Very cool very nice Halfag will run rampant again though
That's your limitation. It's a simple story that goes from beginning to end. You don't enjoy it? That's fine. There's many other stories that try the same thing with a lower scale and it's fine to like those better, but I'm not gonna pretendvI don't love TTGL.
biggest one is honestly just how utterly spitefully brutal all pokemon losses have been
I don't remember/a/ saying something like that.
It's actually beyond sad at this point. They're talking purely about hypotheticals instead of the reality of what happened.
Green Lantern Simon
Can't knock off his Emerald Crown!
Simonfags are wild. They’re actually think DB Simon scales above all of DC when DB states the literal opposite. Sure he beats a lot of high tier characters, but the whole thing is quite the stretch.
I get you’re happy about Simon winning but let’s not get delusional.
Didn't you know? Anon Babble is one person.
Deserved, now if only there were more Sonic loses too
Hulk because trying to beat Superman is damn near impossible given he has metaverse plot armor bullshit
TTGL itself is a souless anime in general.
The last good shit gainax did was KLK where even fucking Anon Babble and Anon Babble were fapping furiously to Satsuki
Simon the NEEYUGGIR!
There's no harm in it because Simon is not getting back into DB for a long while. Just roll with the shitposting.
They literally scaled Kyle to the fucking Source. The same Source DC confirmed since Infinite Frontier/Dark Crisis is the exact same as the Presence/Overvoid/Light and is the canvas the DC omniverse exists on.
He can (does) beat them too
Bugs bunny comes after basically hard carrying Kyle jobber DC ass for the entire fight
Eh...I will tell ya that, you are a hard nut to crack
*Coughs blood* Y-You seem to have forgotten something Bugs...Look at the signature ending
Heh...Wait..A-A Spiral
Then Simon uses that to become super duper tengen toppa gurren laggan, and bombard the warner studios.
I'm not into x because i'm not the target audience for it
What a surprising revelation anon,really astounding
Such a fraud that he doesnt even know KLK was made by Trigger, who was just the team that made TTGL anyway
Kekky
Obviously this is a joke
…right?
it's only shitposting when other people do it to us
They explicitly state that Kyle is vastly more powerful than Hal
Halbros....
TTGL is a story about the human spirit. It's meant to be affirming and fiercely positive.
DCsharts would of course find it "empty" when editorial has been brainraping them with unironic edgy meaningless garbage like Batkek and the DORK Multiverse and every new edgy scrimblo cosmic villain of the week. The DCfag claps for it's a new DEMON of DARKNESS BEHIND EVERY CONCEPT who was HIDDEN FROM US until this very moment, because he was BETRAYED AND TRAPPED in the DARK DIMENSION of SKULLS and GORE.
That's the real reason they hate TTGL, that's the real reason for all the spergouts. They're just tryhard newfags that hate a silly fun little ecchi mecha that just goes cosmic for a bit.
I say it's "Empty" because it lacks this very specific thing: Wonder. It has this really barren world that doesn't feel like it's a place that actually lives and breathes and has stories of it's own to tell. I don't feel like anyone is really going anywhere and as a result the story just feels small despite the asinine scale.
If only there was a Lantern that didn't freeze up when combined with God's power cough Logoz Hal cough.
Yeah it helps that Gohan published those books on ki control, so things like SSJ can be achieved by future generations and thereby keeping the S-Cells a plenty.
"Simon the NYEEGGER"
that voice
I would not be shocked if this was the faggot spamming ntr shit for the past few weeks
And is still better and SOUFUL than TTGL because EVERYONE HATES SIMON
And they didnt repeat the same fucking mistake in KLK
Did this make Kyle win the DB?
Who is a good opponent for the Jehuty?
Why? I always believed in him.
Tbh yes. It's the same if Kyle won. Although the cuck shitposter would be on a rampage.
Souful
Saaaaar Triggar can not redeem the sou
I'd say quite the opposite. Absolute DC is a strongly positive story despite how dark it is because it shows that no matter how fucked up it gets the heroes won't ever stop fighting.
TTGL just feels like this unearned HFY wankfest that concludes in a very sad, uncomfortable way that makes everything feel like it was for nothing.
gives Scaling to her husband so he wins his Death Battle against a DC herald
Kneel
It's that fag who though Kyle would fridge CHADmon
lmao what a retard
Using Gainax and Trigger interchangably
saying KLK was the "last" good thing they did when TTGL came out before KLK
Even for these threads, this an embrassing post
And everyone who worked on TTGL worked on KLK
Watching your heroes get cucked for cheap drama is strongly positive story writing
Hey, someone has to DESTROY THE WORLD in the eternal status quo comic every once in a while.
We are never getting a street level episode ever again (besides Light vs Columbo)
I HAVE THE BEST WIFE IN THE UNIVERSE
SWING
the scale gets so massive
This is kind of a personal thing. I think if you're burnt out by powerscaling stuff, you might instinctively dislike that, but otherwise it's kinda cool. It's not -actually- the norm for fights to actually go into space and throwing universes instead of street level brawls, so by the time that happens (by the end of the self-contained story) it is a neat surprise.
This is Kyle after the separation from the LE. Also the LE stuff happened two and a half reboots ago.
Tbh that's only after a Ben vs Hal rematch, because they only put Hal at 750x universal vs whatever infinity multiversal they'd put him at if he got another match
t. didn't actually watch TTGL, and is just pissy capeshit lost
EVERYONE HATES SIMON
On opposite day lol, but being delusional won't make DC have won this DB
My cock
If we get Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgment characters, maybe.
There was no build up to that, which is part of the problem
Show me the wonder in TTGL. Show me the hope in the suffering
KEK LANTERN'S LIGHT
Simon endured an entire month of Cuckposting just to win big time thanks to his CANON LOYAL WIFE giving him a busted Regen feat
Amazing
I opened up Absolute Shitperman or whatever it was and got hit with an abridged version of the communist manifesto followed by garbage that had nothing to do with Superman, just a bunch of brown guys with guns shooting other brownoids in what looked like Cuba and evil Lois Lane because DC is hellbent on corrupting it's once-great leads.
That's it. That's the extent of modern DC. Take once beloved characters that embody the human ideal of hope and justice and have them raped by Russian cocks or cucked.
Yeah it's no wonder why people actually like TTGL and wanted it to win this matchup. I don't even dislike Kyle Rayner but I'm not reading a story where a guy's girlfriend gets violently butchered for no reason.
Can anyone show me the wonder and hope in showing Kyle getting cucked by some nobody in his own home?
DCfags are literally defaming TTGL because they lost
Wow, this is actually pathetic and sad
Which for these threads is saying a lot
Fist fight into drill clash. Core Drill vs Ring. Simon makes Kyle grit those teeth with a reality shattering punch that leaves him spent and Kyle fades away with a smile. The ring goes to Simon
THE GREATEST
simon had to stack infinite upon infinite to beat kyle
simonfags take this as a stomp upon kyle
???
8-C
1-A
LMAO has there ever been a bigger jump in power in a VSBW profile?
nigga thinks Kyle Rayner is literally the Presence
Lmao. Get out of your head brother. Be happy your guy won, but don’t be delusional.
Isn't Wille vs Tom just another stalemate? Tom doesn't have anything that can harm Wille through the absurd amount of punishment he can take but at the same time, all of Wille's traps and weapons always backfire on him without working on who he is trying to use them on. It'd just be Tom failing to do anything to Wille who is fucking himself up like usual.
emotional spectrum is finite
it's fueled by the emotions of every sentient alive
this means there are finite number of sentient beings in the DC multiverse empowering the finite emotional spectrum
if there are only finite sapients in the DC multiverse then DC's cosmology isn't infinite
How is this not death battle admitting the DC multiverse isn't infinite?
Reminder that Simon LITERALLY FUCKED Kyle’s girlfriend
DCfags have to resort to trying to gaslight people into hating TTGL's story while ignoring the revolving door of eventshit and cuckshit and forgetting character development in their eternal simpsons-tier unchanging shitshow of a comic just cause their retarded cosmology lost
Lol
Torrian's episode will be Batman vs Snake
Base Hal.
Logos Hal is the "I win" button if a rematch happens because it's extremely comparable to the LE but Hal can actually control it.
DC had to give Kyle literally all the scaling in the world and then some so he didn’t get hopelessly stomped by Simon
DCfags are still coping over this
Kyle's literal singular advantage was that he could make sillier constructs with his rings. That's it. It's one of the worst stomps in the series. Even fucking Homelander had heat vision and screaming as wincons.
Simon was better in every other category and arguably had a better version of the Life Equation too lmao
We'll probably get a Hal rematch next season.
The superfag crying about anime and how superman getting sodomized was non canon was funny
I dont know. Kinda sounds like they needed Kyle to me.
Read manga version of TTGL
Kiyal has her own Tengen Toppa Mech
Even the Genki girl can solo DC.
Anon they scaled Life Equation Kyle to the top of the cosmology. Blame DCfags for insisting on Kyle getting life equation and white lantern wank
Reminder that a single DROP of Yoko’s milk solos Marvel, DC, and Dragon Ball COMBINED.
They didn't have the spectrum run out just his battery iirc.
It is genuinely subhuman behavior. Which is funny after years of Otto and his cult calling other fanbases subhuman for losing to DC.
Simon has Yoko therefore he wins.
I guess them tacitly admitting DC is finite basically retcons everything they did earlier
Baxterchecked and true (peer reviewed by Nasa)
didn't read a single thing I posted
The entire fucking show is about Kamina and Simon inspiring themselves and others to go beyond their limits. That is more to their lives than just existing in a world waiting to die. We see that wonder through the animation, we see it through the reactions of the characters and just trying to live on, and moving past their limits despite everyone else says otherwise
Get off your high horse you fucking midwit and stop pretending like you know or care about the themes or presentation of a story.
I'm more thinking about Absolute Batman in all honesty.
Like that scene in the most recent issue where his friends are telling him to not throw his life away and he deserves to live.
Or when he beats the shit out of Black Mask while the latter tells him that he doesn't matter.
That kinda stuff. The absolute refusal to give into despair in the face of a cruel world
No they mention Parallax and all those in black boxes.
What even are good match-ups for Yakuza?
You dont seem to get what I'm trying to say. A stomp is when even a character in base form can beat a character using everything. Kyle and Simon had similar speed. If kyle wasnt as fast as Simon id consider it a stomp.
They mentioned it was overtaxed by Dr, Manhattan
No they said Kyle would have won if he could use LE but he sucked at it so he lost.
B-B-B-B-But my favorite comic book setting lost a fanfiction fight…….
What the fuck even is "Information Level"?
That's because Sci-Fi has rules meanwhile with Magical stuff anything goes
Anon, only SWANKED Kyle gets the utterly nonsensical scaling that he gets, you have to be retarded to think that somehow Hal scales ot the peak of DC cosmology.
absolutely MOGGED
Pic.
They didn't even give Simon all the scaling from Work Soul and Final Drill and he still annihilated Kyle.
Turn A Gundam, battle of the moon-themed lost technology mechs with brother shadow mechs (Anubis, Turn X) and white-haired dark-skinned pilots (Loran, Dingo)
No they just said that would even the odds. They then went on to whip out Otoko and say that Simon's shenanigans was comparable to the full power life equation.
That wasn't the spectrum that was Kyle's connection to it. I don't think Manhattan ever directly interacted with the emotional pokemon.
Both yoko and nia's tits would solo DC but they're not ready for that conversation
Go past their limits
What does that even mean for fucks sake.
VEIN?
To be fair this was the defense a lot of people went with when Superman won twice against Goku. Unironically killed a lot of hype for Supes as a character afterwards.
They explicitly said it was his ring that was overtaxed and nullified
Aye.
They put Otoko at full power LE tier. The second Otoko was confirmed it was over for DC.
They actually said "More than even the odds."
Very nice
They just said that it would even things, and then immediately gave Simon something that would equal the full power LE.
The /dbs/ and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
KNEEL
Scaling to something doesn’t make you the same or literally that thing, just relative.
Supes is fine as a character, not his fault he got shat on over time because of bad writers.
How is Kamina breaking Simon out of the LE not considered outside help?
But his ring isn't the entire spectrum its just the ring.
Soulless
How much of that isn't being burnt out from powerscaling...?
Good thing that wasn't what I was claiming.
MY HEROES
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Imagine if they gave Godzilla SRW-scaling then make him lose to Hulk and then we have to do with the eternal shitposting triangle of DC > Marvel > SRW > DC for the rest of time
Power of friendship buff, same buff Joker got.
depends on the series, a lot of scifi has weapons so powerful that they just obliterate your average fantasy world before they could even do anything about it
even hard scifi can do that, think about your average fantasy series, can they do anything about a Nicoll-Dyson beam?
Aka the full power of a star focused into a laser on their planet uninterrupted for centuries by a machine 100 lightyears away
That's pure hard scifi, entirely within the constraints of physics as currently understood
Viral vs Vegeta. The strongest jobber.
Not confirmed to be his soul, so its fully plausible Simon just imagines his bro to hype himself up
I don't understand what is being considered a stomp anymore. If this is what we're calling a stomp. Simon had to stack infinite upon infinite to beat kyle.
Meanwhile kratos was said to be like millions of times stronger than asura lol
The ring fueled by the energy of hope and life
Viral is cooler than Vegeta so I’m going with him.
Compare that to Simon who merged with a version of himself writing a version of Gurren Lagann and using spiral power to make that fiction into reality!
A pretty similar level of reality to the life equation
Kyle kept the Life Equation in the 'what if' scenario, New Guardians: Futures End. In it, he is corrupted and ultimately destroyed himself. The canon Kyle saw this potential future, hence why he relinquished the Equation. This book also established those with high willpower are resistant to the Life Equations effects, such as Saysoran
Kyle was fucked regardless
And Anti-Monitor. They placed Kyle's raw power around Monitor level.
That's because he had to fight death battle's fanfic version of kyle
Viral annihilates, even in Thor vs Vegeta they had finite universes and when Tengen Toppa rolls around Viral already surpassed the infinitely universal labyrinth. If you're lowballing Viral that is
He carries him on his back and in his heart. He lives on as a part of him.
Self actualization and determination. To move past your own limits to become a better person and live a better life for yourself and those around you.
You not understanding this isn't you knowing better than the material, it's you being a fucking dumbass.
No, a stomp is when you win, and win really fucking hard
They said
Kyle has zero way to hurt Simon
Simon can become infinitely stronger and faster than Kyle by just thinking about it
Kyle will just die eventually anyway on his own
Kyle's best weapon also probably kills him but if it doesn't Simon just has a straight up better version of the Life Equation
Kyle doesn't even take a single category against Simon in literally anything
Even supposed blowouts on this show have led to some kind of pushback. Fuck, I think even Aquaman might have gotten something over Spongebob. Kyle got jack fucking shit and they weren't even using full power/wank Simon.
Pretty similar, but lesser, because it more than evens the odds.
Yes!
Viral is a catshark beastman. but he's far from Vegeta levels of jobbing. Hell, he piloted Arc-Gurren alongside Simon
Shin Ultraman did TTGL's message better
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Them breaking out the labyrinth is just too peak FUARK HOLD ON IM NOT CRYING
Sweeps DBcast
Near Sweeps G1 Round 1
15-0 Sweeps G1 Round 2
Near Sweeps the DB episode itself taking 2.5 of the 3 categories
How can DC WEAKLINGS ever compare?
It helps that TTGL didn’t drag on for several years and then get an official continuation so Viral wasn’t constantly humiliated like Vegeta.
Quantum level which is weird because lanterns have affected quantum physics before.
No way. No one who’s even slightly familiar with DB can think they’re biased AGAINST DC when they’ve dick ride them more than anyone else.
STOP LIKINH TTGL-AAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
Pretty sure they dropped the no-summon/outside help rule for years now
These... all sound like good reasons to say kyle loses the fight? Like i don't get why this is a stomp. These reasons are very good for why simon could beat anybody you'd put him up against.
Why should I care about Simon
All those youtube faggots who were confident in DC winning
And people clapped back by pointing at good Superman stories.
Being a petty bitch about the material when it suits you does nothing but prove you lack any of maturity when discussing media.
DC didn’t win for once so they’re biased! (Ignore all the wank DC has gotten in the past and them barely ever losing against anyone who isn’t from Marvel)
I still can't believe he destroyed the fucking Source Wall.
You got webm of the drill clashes?
one character is initially infinitely powerful than the other but loses due to being unable to put them down
So, Ghost Rider vs Spawn?
Not even just that but took on the culmination of The Source itself when Kyle fused it into a giant drill
implying DC's cosmology is bigger
but only show TTGL being "outerversal" and not DC
They demonstrate zero proof of DC transcending its own medium
Probably my second favorite moment of the episode solely because of the hard circlejerking in favor of the source wall, only for it to show up for like 5 seconds before getting destroyed KEK
KINGMON shall surpass KINGTOS.
Enter…
OUR KING
Being a petty bitch about the material when it suits you does nothing but prove you lack any maturity when discussing media
Dragon Ballbros we got CALLED THE FUCK OUT…
Well in this case it was plausible to out Simon on the same level
Spawn just facetanked everything due to hax, Simon ramped up on his own (even when they blackboxed Otoko and Anti-Spiral boob feats)
Anon, they literally framed it as completely impossible for Kyle to win and gave Simon like 4 or 5 separate things he could have done without even going full jerk. How does that not sound like a stomp to you? This wasn't close, it wasn't "Simon takes it 7 or 8 out of 10 times" it was "Simon utterly buttrapes in literally any scenario of this fight you can think of".
Godzilla with prep time
Find me a reason I should care about Simon's character. Show me something that actually makes him human
CANOOOOOOOOOOON!
implying DC characters are human
Grimm?
Simon victim.
you know what, I'm putting aside the retarded layers of back-to-back irony and mongoloid 'FUAAARKS' and 'MY HEROES' to say I actually am genuinely surprised that Simon was able to pull a win, I was convinced Kyle was just going to DC cosmic outscale him.
On another note, I'm finding out I'm a fan of non-conventional methods of figuring out which "muh gigafinitybuster" wins a fight instead of just trying to statcheck it and see who blows up more universes with raw power
What's with this Hal cope? They clearly had Kyle way above Hal in this. Kyle already got scaled up to Hal/Superman/Flash level in everything and still got BTFO. You lost DCfaggots, take the L with some grace.
Given what happened in Joker vs Giorno I don't think friendship power-ups count as against the rules.
I ain't implying that
Do you like Gurren Lagann?
I'll do you one better, find me a reason why I should care about Superman that doesn't also apply to Simon
Just forget it, if literally composite DC couldn't do much, then Hal with his super special tropical (event limited) form wouldn't do jack.
He gets cucked
Therefore he's human because you can't be human if you don't get cucked
And yet TTGL faggotry jobs to >pic
In you dreams. Getter Robo never delved into the multiverse. It never even properly dipped its toes into it. It got cancelled because Ishikawa fucking died.
Energy absorption is inferior
Can't attack across past, present and future simultaneously with singular attacks (though Emperor appears to be able to time travel)
No probability manipulation
Can't gain in strength to nearly the same extent
Shin trying to merge with Mars, if that is the true origin of Emperor, was immediately put into stasis
I feel bad for Getterbros and their eternal inferiority complex. Would have been a great story had it actually managed to go somewhere.
p-please stop liking TTGL! I BEG YOU! Y-y-you didn't actually like what you experienced and decided to like by yourself!
Well mainly because they said kyle starts baseline stronger than simon before simon starts pulling his asspulls. Lol. Thats more than what could be said for like ryuko vs shadow which is the episode i consider the biggest stomp they've ever done. Ryuko was infinitely slower and vastly weaker than shadow even in base.
Hal Jordan will drown Simon in alternate forms in the inevitable rematch.
Nothing beats friendship.
I almost feel like that was the point. Like DB was using our knowledge of their longstanding DC bias to make it seem like it was impossible for Simon to win, only for Simon to DO the impossible and snatch victory from the claws of defeat. But maybe I’m giving them too much credit
DCbros...
You need oversoul spectre hal
everything else is fodder
Got to work everyday
make so much profit for the big boss
I take home essentially nothing
I think I can relate actually…
drowning the guy who can merge with all the versions of himself from multiple infinite multiverses
This will not go the way you think it will.
he got a better girlfriend tho
KINGMON shall surpass [submountain fodder]
Pretty sure he did that a long time ago.
Okay so given him oversoul spectre. He still wins.
KINGMOOOOOON
Huh, did VSBW delete all its mythology profiles?
Don’t be too hard on the Getterfags, they’re just upset because they never got to enjoy the same degree of success as Mazingerchads
you can't be human if you don't get cucked
Why is this actually kinda true?
DB isn’t the end all be all in versus debates.
I look like this and say this
Kyle and Kamina are now taking turns with Nia in the afterlife
KEKAROO
And then they immediately undid themselves by saying Simon could just think and would instantly be stronger than Kyle anyway because his willpower and potential is so much higher.
It's like pretending Gioker wasn't a stomp because Joker might struggle for 2 seconds to get around GER when how they framed it he just pops any Almighty skill and wins.
And hell, Giorno "kind of" got intelligence in that fight. Kyle got the ability to...make Balrog and Shenron constructs? That's cute. Simon makes drills bigger than infinity.
Okay, okay. Not even a Superman buff, but I'll try.
It's because he does stuff that feels much more intimate despite his godlike power.
I never see Simon do stuff like reading to sick children.
I wonder if there are any thematic matches where friendship loses, where a lone wolf just beats out some dude fighting for his friends
kylejeet is back for more DC humiliation
Bunshichi Tanba vs Baki Hanma
Yeah, but I wanted to check what they placed multiple gods at and couldn't find any actual pages for the Gods, so I was curious if they just went "No religion profiles, even for dead ones"
Nice quads, but from the way you guys are whining the same way benfags are. Wanting a rematch the winner with a character you know they can't beat.
There wasn't a stomp this big since Popeye Vs Saitama
Devils advocate and Superman bro here. Does he need to?
anybody who supports kyle is a indian
I forgot im sorry for supporting kyle
You get what I fucking mean. I never really see Simon do anything that feels "Real" so to speak
Can I get a quick rundown on some of these cosmic level threats? Not as how strong they are, but how do they compare to our FUARKING villain the Anti-Spiral on a character or entertainment level?
Anti-Monitor
Chaos King
Batkek
Basically I'm asking about the "DARKNESS FROM WHERE THE MULTIVERSE GOES TO DIE" kind of event villains.
I like to hear about opinions outside of powerscaling here too. It's fun to learn what people think.
Just forget it, if literally composite DC couldn't do much, then Hal with his super special tropical (event limited) form wouldn't do jack.
Simon after the ending is going around digging up wells for townsfolk and other such small things. Maybe not exactly the same, but he's altruistic and humble.
anyone that can jump out of a comic book is life equation level
ToonforceGODS....
Simon is a better Saitama in all aspects
See THAT'S what I want. The little things that make the world seem bigger
all had to destroy the multiverse a chunk at a time instead of instantly
None of them have infinite power that's for for sure
Anti-Monitor’s a very generic big bad wants to destroy everything cape villain, people like him for the spectacle and scale and sometimes his design rather than his personality.
Because they're not.
The 2nd season is a rehash of the first but the stakes are raised to 12 billion because they have to be.
he's the literal personification of "indomitable human spirit".
Most of the first part of the story is them freeing humans from the beastmen. Simon in part 2 is grappling with moving from the freedom fighter life into politics and balancing it with his relationship. It's been years since I rewatched but his daily life at that point felt pretty natural.
Loses to Anti-Monitor
Loses to Chaos King
Batkek is a debate. But leaning towards Anti-Spiral.
I really wish Getter got the success Mazinger did because it deserved it, maybe even more than Mazinger did. The getter rays are an excellent concept, the cosmic horror was fucking THERE and then some and then Ishikawa just kicked the bucket and now Getter is PERMANENTLY stuck at a cliffhanger ending and can now only get by on spinoffs no one gives a fuck about like Getter Darkness which is grimdark edgeslop with no point or Getter High which is actually a mahjong manga. Wish Getter got to have a much longer anime to stick in public consciousness.
spongeCHAD with the magic pencil is life equation level since he can turn fictional things real
When Kyle was on the ground still alive and they showed Simon looking at him I got scared for a moment
I thought they would make Simon stomp Kyle's head or something to make a Hal Vs Ben reference, fucking over the whole episode with an OOC moment
SLOWbob
Huh?
Tanba would beat Yujiro to a pulp, but as to why, I need to explain on a thematic level. He's like an "Anti-Yujiro"
Yujiro
Legendary strongest warrior
Other fighters arrogantly challenge him and get put in their place for even thinking they had a shot at beating this mf
Tanba
Not really well-known
Confidently challenges legendary enlightened strongest warriors and, instead of being punished for his hubris, fucking wins
I didn't ask for powerscaling you nincompoop.
Toonforce? More like, troonforce
They already did the pseudo Hal VS Ben reference when TTGL tries to stomp him
Tanba would beat Yujiro to a pulp
Thoughts on pankration?
redditbob
CHADow the Hedgehog victim.
You dont understand. If the only way to kill kyle as the white lanturn is to become infinitely stronger and faster than him. While also being nigh immortal yourself. How is that a stomp? Are the people saying this just trying to make it seem like kyle was weak?
Redditbob
LOST to Shadow who became King of Anon Babble while he got stuck Mr Anon Babble‘s E8.
the personification of the indomitable human spirit loses to a crossdressing rabbit.
Simonsisters…
Simon helps kids learn how to drill as a hobo, he's a good lad
Eh, it's aight
this makes DCbros scared
It sounded like all you had to do was wait for him to run out of charge.
I guess this is the other side of "When Simon's face showed up I thought they were going to make out"
Something something 20 larpgans "believing" in zeus was enough to ban it....Rip 8 bit theater, AvA, MGQ, and that universal slenderman
Out of context this still is sus.
I know it's you, pastebin. You may leave Keng/a/n but you can't escape me. Yujiro is reducing your Tanba waifu to paste.
Imagine if they delete Slenderman from VSBW because some retarded teenage girls stabbing a guy years ago for him means he now qualifies as a religious figure.
Yeah. Getter should be afforded the same respect as someone who was a legitimately great player but who suffered a career-ending injury before they could make it to the hall of fame. Could have happened to anyone. Never made it but everyone knows they should have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did that.
Slenderman? A boundless deity on the same level as God, Allah, and Simon.
I'm willing to bet it was Indians who got it nuked, they're the sort to actually get upset that their gods aren't the highest ranked fictional entities
Uh...There were a bunch of pajeets boundless profiles, they were deleted because they were literally just recreations. Doesn't help how literal chink mythology is sweeping everything....
stand proud, kylebros
spoilers
the heck? they have profiles for 8-bit? and banned it? why even?
Kyle was scaled high enough to contend with some of the strongest characters in deathbattle. I mean he'll even give glactus a run for his money lol.
I've watched Getter but I find the weird relationship with Gurren to be so fucking retarded. Who cares what anyone else thinks? It's a god damn love letter to mecha in general, of course they'd pool in some Getter there.
Had. Also something something fanfic.
Simon beat a Kyle who got scaled above the Anti-Monitor and Spectre
All those people laughing at the idea of TTGL beating Galactus a week or so back must really regret it now.
some of
Anon, he was scaled to the entire fucking DC cosmology including Literal God. And he lost. A DC character who would have beaten everyone else on the entire show combined lost to Simon - this is the crux of why DCfags are seething so hard.
Okay, let's say the Anti-Spiral gets a fight next season. What's his MU?
He was above normal Hal but in the ball park of Anti-Monitor. I don't think they said he did anything but skirmish with the Anti-Monitor which is something a lot of characters have done.
Spiral power is just a whole other level of bullshit
they put Kyle up against a character who's entire defining characteristic is that he always overcomes, no matter the odds, no matter how ridiculously stronger, he always comes out on top
there's really no shame in losing against that, hope DC fans can understand that
The spectre isnt the god of dc retard
Budget meal Superman?
Who did Anon Babble think was going to win?
Yeah, but TTGL sort of goes for broke. Gainax intentionally pushed the powerlevels of TTGL as far as they could, vastly dwarfing even other cosmic mecha which is already an impressive power gap above most of DC. Even just the Gunbuster alone would be a major threat to DC's Earth, and thats not even the high end of such things anymore by the time 2007 rolls around.
They didn't just make TTGL big and hit hard, lots of things do that. The let it grow out to fill the available space in terms of time travel and dimension shit and all that.
DC could never afford to have something with the powers that TTGL does without immediately nerfing it to hell and back, because if they did it would warp the universe around itself just by existing. DC would never allow something to do that thats not named Superman.
hope DC fans can understand that
They cannot. You don't get it anon - DB was the positive affirmation that DCfags needed, the 'proof' that they're above every other setting in existence. Them losing this fucking hard has utterly demolished their self-identity because it proves they aren't the top of the totem pole in their minds, not even close.
Galactus would still beat Simon.
I think wile e wins but idk about the xianxia bullshit tom has
They scaled him to the Source. The same Source which DC itself confirmed is the exact same thing as the Presence, the Overvoid, and the Light that birthed the DC omniverse.
Come back when you beat Hal Jordan.
The Presence almost lost to Darkseid building a random big machine to violate him with in The New Gods (1995) #1, so clearly a fragment of his power is nothing compared to the indomitable human spirit.
I-I-It was an outerversal big machine…
Superman supposedly has limits, even if they are absurdly high.
Simon explicitly does not.
The Life Equation more than evens it up
But it's as much a detriment as an advantage
It sounds like anyone that could control the LE would have won.
Kyle was put above HalYou are coping.
Superman vs Simon is next.
So did the majority here think Kyle or Simon would win?
A fragment of the Presence/Source/Overvoid's power
The same deific being GENERATED by the power of the HUMAN SPIRIT
Up against the SUPERNAL EMBODIMENT of HUMANITY
Yep yep YEP, Kyle never stood a chance!
scaled him to
No they fucking didnt. He never got control of the life equation. Something the source fucking made aaaaaargh
Antimonitor
You do know Hal has a couple of transformation, don't you? Scaling above base Goku means nothing.
does such a character exist in DC?
They put Otoko Simon on par with that as a base with Simon also boosting
He doesn't have infinite power so he loses
They outright said that even if he got the full thing and had perfect control, Otoko Simon was just as good if not even better than the full LE. He'd have still lost.
Logoz Hal unironically.
J-just you wait, D-D-Darkseid-sama will avenge DC's L when he returns from the Elseworld with his new all-powerful creator god form...
No, they said it was similar but not as strong as the LE.
Darkseid is just an avatar of TGD, a finite god
That is not what they said at all. Why do you need to lie?
Maybe God of Light through the super mother box he had but that one is kind of vague.
+2 movies.
Simon no-diff, in a real fight Kyle would be too busy dealing with his shitty girlfriends to fight back properly while Simon is either a widower or in a love relationship with Nia depending on the point in time.
What do you think? Prior to the actual match, it was smug DCfag spam in every single thread.
Whats that have to do with scaling above the presence? Are you kidding me? Kyle even with the life equation is not beating the pressence nor anti monitor.
the way it was set up it's not just a statstomp of who had more power, it was the fact that Simon was infinitely jumping into higher and higher power tiers that shouldn't be possible , it's literally trying to outscale Potential
Nope.
I KEPT TELLING YOU IDIOTS THE FUCKING LIFE EQUATION WASN'T A SUREFIRE WIN BUT NOOOOOOO. WHERE'S THE FAGGOT THAT MADE THE CORNDOG POST. SHOW YOURSELF YOU FUCKING COWARD
NO NO NO YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO POINT OUT THAT DARKNESS-SAMA JOBBED TO A MERE FRAGMENT OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Let's be honest, the God of Light shit was practically treated like a one-off. Hal got to be cool and deal with his daddy issues, and then he just showed up back on Earth doing normal Green Lantern things like nothing changed. At no point did he say, just blip away Grail and Myrina and Mobius to instantly solve the problem.
Unless we're back to accepting that by powerscaling, Grail is legitimately one of the most powerful characters in DC, and I don't want to live in that reality.
Go watch the video at the 23:52 mark. They say it is on the LE's level.
Resistant does not mean immune and mind control is the tiniest part of what it can do. Why are you ignoring that they said it would more than even the fight?
I said "scaled him TO" the Presence/Source/Overvoid, not above.
Anyone who isn't letting their fandom drive their brain can see that Simon is a terrible matchup for Kyle. Kyle can do some impressive things but he just doesn't have the raw *power* to keep up with Spiral Power on his own. He was always going to run out of juice in this fight, it was only a matter of when.
everything in this image loses to Simon btw
Saysoran was immune. If she could null it then Simon sure as fuck would
except this is Simon, if he can resist it, that means he can eventually overcome it
They had White Lantern Kyle as at or above Anti Monitor and then Life Equation putting him beyond even that. They put pretty much all the DC chips on the table and lost
"More than even out the fight" until he grows past it. You have to remember Simon started off weaker lol so Kyle ever having an edge is pointless since Simon would just evolve past it like he did through out the entire fight
Not just that. Once you introduce the *possibility* of resistance to something for Simon, probability manipulation gets to play merry hell with it. You immediately lose control of the situation unless you can probability hax back.
That's not what they said.
Everything except for the Life Equation.
It originated from a higher reality and would have more than evened the odds.
Too bad Kyle couldn't control it. It was as much a detriment as an asset.
Simon merged with a version of himself writing Gurrenn Lagann
A pretty similar level of reality
Note that even with Otoko they had Simon start out as weaker than Kyle who can't control the LE. That means a Kyle that could control it would have "more than evened" the fight and won.
THE FUCKING ANTI-SPIRAL, AN ACAUSAL HIVEMIND, TOLD SIMON HE WAS DESTINED TO DIE, AND SIMON WHOOPED HIS ASS. If he can deny fate, he can say "no" to the life equation. be quiet
Bull fucking shit he'd get rocked by like every relevant god tier dc character lol.
Perpetua would beat white lanturn life equation kyle. Fuck outta here. What's kyle gonna do about retcon punches from superboy prime even? Nothing.
Missing the Black Box where they point out where Simon would resist / no sell it thanks to Future's End.
say that Otoko is a "pretty similar level of reality" to the higher reality of the LE
DCfag thinks this isn't a direct comparison between the two
You mean the Perpetua that gets btfo by planets to the face?
It is because they placed Otoko Simon as below Kyle until he gained more power during the fight.
retards on leddit trying to say exponential growth isn't real
What new form of cope is this?
So was there more to this than him just saying Simon was going to die because that just sounds like banter?
They also flat out admitted that at any point, Simon could have just decided to be stronger than Kyle and he would have. Simon being "weaker" than Kyle at the start was a choice on his part, not a sign that Kyle could have won even if he had started with the power advantage.
Yes. The very same perpetua would mid dif white lanturn corps at the same time
This. Anti spiral is still assuming that Simon will meet the same fate as every other spiral warrior that came gunning for him. Simon has gotten *further* than most by this point, but Antispiral still has every reason to believe this is a fight he can win. Indeed, from Antispiral's perspective, he MUST win for the sake of the universe.
he really drilled through the fucking wall
DC’s top tiers are Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann level
At least they can destroy planets. Kek
Source Wall hasn't been anything special in DC for a long time. It was, once, but they kept fucking PLAYING with it and made it weaker as a result.
It's like how Magic the Gathering used to have a status called 'remove from the game' which got rid of cards with no way back. Then they changed the wording to 'Exile' to make it easier to reference. Then they made mechanics that interacted with exile, and more things that dealt with exile, and so on.
Now, exile is just a moderately more permanent graveyard thats a LITTLE harder to interact with than the true graveyard. Dilluted from its original purpose over time.
a wall is still a wall and it can be broken with a drill
Darkseid has gotten outta the source wall before. Is it supposed to be hard to fuck with/ignore for god tiers?
Pure copium. It is very obvious that the entire "Nia resisted data manip" was going to be used as a way to resist LE wankery, before they dropped that. Also it says that AT BEST it can equalize the field.
people STILL coping about Simon's win
ready to milk it for years when you get your Ws yet seething and trying to justify why it doesn't REALLY count the second you get a real undeniable loss, real classy
And everything on it's backside if you flip it over too, since the Great Darkness scales below the Presence/Source/Overvoid for having been suppressed by it from the moment of the Source's existence.
No, they said "more then even." And that is after Otoko is factored in as starting as below Kyle starting out the fight.
What's kyle gonna do about retcon punches from superboy prime even?
Humiliate him with red sun radiation, probably.
They said Otoko is already in a similar relationship to the full LE. They also said point-blank that high willpower can resist the full LE, so it wouldn't have even mattered even if Kyle could use it without imploding.
Yeah, and I am sure that they meant that Kyle was going to become a brazillian times stronger than Simon by using literal VSBW brain damage. I mean, if the LE was basically so overwhelming, then why wasn't there an entire section dedicated to it? Even if present Kyle can't use it well, and instant OHKO hax should surely be accounted for?
*similar reality
If they believed resistant to effects meant entirely immune they wouldn't have said that the LE would have more than evened. You need to pay attention to what they said and when they said it.
I wonder how far I can powerscale mgq on character-stats...
They also said point-blank that high willpower can resist the full LE
Kyle suppressed everyone in his universe with the only exceptions being pure chance from his lack of full control over the LE, including Hal presumably
Highfather wrested partial control of the LE with his sceptre not willpower
But that's not right...
Also they said that the LE was outerversal...And look who was also outerversal (otoko).
Did you not see the video?
Too bad he can't control it.
It's as much a detriment as an advantage
They directly addressed why Kyle can't use the LE beyond flailing around with it.
Source Wall?
Well, I don't see any
Hal’s win is legit, they just made if look really stupid in the fight animation by having him time travel to do it when Alien X can’t be killed vis tike travel, should have shown Hal punching him into non existence instead.
Pure chance
Read the comic
Even the mere possibility of resistance basically turns into guaranteed immunity for Simon due to his probability manipulation.
SHHHH DON'T MENTION THAT
See
Source?
I made it the fuck up
Nigga he was slapping her around, he could've ended the fight at any moment if he really wanted to.
"A pretty similar level of reality to the LE"
I know that you faggots can't read, but I didn't knew you also couldn't hear.
youtu.be
Irrelevant. We are talking about the Life Equation's influence. Having enough willpower / spectrum emotions allows you to resist if not outright nullify its power
Which was ranked below a Kyle who couldn't use the LE until Simon ramped up beyond it. That's the part you are glossing over.
Yknow its kinda sad that to beat simon you have to be a character that can just stomp him. By the sound of it anybody directly on his level just gets infinitely outpaced? So you'd have to be already dozens of infinites above simon to kill him with Instant death hax that ignore all his resistances. So there'd not even be a fight....
they gave Kyle literally everything and Simon still fucking won
even the fucking cosmology wank
That's the funniest part of all this. They threw the entire DC cosmology and the kitchen sink at Simon only for all of it to get drilled
Okay? So it downscales to a unknown ammount...Not like it stops Simon from just Adapting and overpowering it. Because that is my point, they EXIST on a similar level of realty. Also it was very obviously refering to the full power of the LE. Considering that they said that its force came from his LEVEL OF EXISTENCE.
Tanba would fucking demolish Yujiro because Yujiro is literally everyone Tanba fights
If anything that makes kyle the better character. He's still grounded enough to just not be an instant win button for his stories. Unlike Simon who can just win without even trying.
still grounded
Kyle
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
He's still grounded enough to just not be an instant win button for his stories.
I agree but the problem is DC neglects him
And before you say "hurr durr it is still stronger", My point was always that Kyle LE literally scales to the absolute pinnacle of DC cosmology (and maybe DC itself par the literal absolute god tiers that can be counted with one hand), the fact that even with all of that retarded crap, he is still only "dubiously stronger" than otoko simon (without logical types degeneracy wank that the ML brings, btw)
better character cope
this is the same tactic master chief keks used to cope their hero being gaped by doomslayer
no, he is an instant win button, but a shitty one where they constantly forget his instant wins
that's what comic book characters are, all of them are just a mess of abilities that are forgotten when convenient
Also Garouden came before Baki and Itagaki actually likes Garouden a lot.
kyle has known limits to his power via stuff like ring charge and willpower caps
hes not grounded
broken
the power gap was too big in that fight everyone knew chief would perish like fodder
simon vs kyle however has neen a complete shitshow so far
Doomslayer and cheif arent really comparable in terms of character. Ones a clear power fantasy while the others a very lucky space marine. Both have their good qualties. Simon is just a walking asspull.
He would win because Tanba is LITERALLY UNFATHOMABLE he is a TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHOPATH
No one cares, pastebin.
The super weapon wasn't your mech
it was me
then Simon, I'm taking you in.
God damn that part pretty cool. Even the oath at the end was great, even though it made me worried.
The scariest thing is, even being stronger alone isn't a safe bet.
I didn't watch the full video, but I'm guessing that they didn't bother to go into WHY the Antispiral fights the way it does. The Antispiral is fully aware of the fact that spiral power scales infinitely. They are fully aware that a spiral warrior in a righteous rage can grow in strength to match or exceed his opponent. So they fight using tactics designed to break the spirit, and provoke Absolute Despair. Psychological Warfare, because *direct* power confrontation only provokes the survivors to grow stronger to match you. This is why the Anti-Spiral does incremental battles instead of just flattening their enemies outright with superior firepower in their first go. They want to set up battles that the spiral warriors can win, only to pull the rug out from under them when they think victory is certain. That loss of hope at the sight of their victory turning to ash in from of them is what breaks most spiral warriors, even if just for a few moments, and lets the Antispiral win.
So the Antispiral, who is vastly powerful and knows how spiral power works, *specifically does not* just do
So you'd have to be already dozens of infinites above simon to kill him with Instant death hax that ignore all his resistances. So there'd not even be a fight....
Because they think thats a bad plan.
Your absolute inability to comprehend why Tanba would win is sickening
It was Kino even had me thinking he'd be the one to win for a second
The Security Officer should've fought him instead.
But then again, it'd end in a loss for Doomguy
Doomkek? Shamed
Master Chad? Avenged
Kektos? Fradulent
Chadsura? Redeemed
Kyle kek? Defeated
LORD Simon? Winner of all
The same can be said for all broken characters. It has to be a stomp.
Do the impossible, see the invisible.
Touch the untouchable, break the unbreakable
ROW ROW
FIGHT THE POWER
17 and going around topless
For shame
Because Tanba isn't on the level of anyone in Baki, be it in strength, precision, foresight or technique.
Is it really a stomp if you have to discuss all this cosmological mumbo jumbo
The Security Officer
Bungiekek...
I'm more handling this from a philosophical angle in the same way Baki does.
I'm pissed at Bungie as well m8
You're in a fucking death battle thread you mongoloid. Tanba would never beat up Yujiro even then because of Yujiro's status as an ideological deity in the setting.
That's the thing though. Tanba's entire career is based on shitting on stuff like that
Name a single instance comparable to that of Yujiro.