Death Battle

How is DB inconsistent in speed? The best speed feats are what Gotenks traveling around the world multiple times in a few seconds and Goku negating time stop, but that could be argued as hax, and Dyspo being FTL at base?

These speed feats are like Buu saga and super so idk why it would be considered inconsistent unless goku can't keep up with a van or something, but I guess he didn't dodge that train in the manga

That Body Pillow? Destroys DC, god of war, and DB, because R > F or something

not even Z level

kwab

VSBW says vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Godzilla_(Godzilla_Singular_Point) at 2-C and Hulk at 3-C to 1-C

I thought you guys said Ultima was Simon level. Where’s the Vs Wank?

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Boundless BEASTS

KratosSCHOLARS

Multiversal GODS

Anons who actually talk about the show

Galaxy CHADS

ThumbnailAnon

POWER GAP

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Street level shitters

Simonfags, Kylefags, Asurafags, Benfags and Sonicfags

POWER GAP

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weaker than an atom faggots.

Listroon, Nikofag, Indian Cuckold Fetishists, Godzillafag

Not even worth mentioning

Everyone else.
This list is CANON.

The only speed 'feat' you actually mentioned there of any worth was Dypso, and that entire character is a mess of contradictions and antifeats within the few episodes he's even in

The whole of capeshit? Godzilla victims. True form Ultima Godzilla is not needed.

Dyspo being remarkably fast for being FTL at that point in the story makes a lot of "acksually 1,000,000,000,000 googols FTL according ot my calculations" people sub-light speed

comicvine, spacebattles and all other battleboarding sites don't believe Hal can time travel anymore

only the literal retards on vsbw and other powerscaling forums believe this

not even DC editorial and their authors think Hal can time travel after retconning it

NOBODY with a functioning brain thinks Hal can still time travel

Why is death battle such a pathetic dismal failure at convincing anyone

wrong page

Where would you scale Ares Prime? This is spoilers from Xenoblade X DE new content. Spoilers of course:
So, in the Xeno series, there is an object known as the Zohar and it's basically an object that have the power of God and can connect to multiple universes/dimension. In Xenoblade, it's called the Conduit. Xenoblade X is a game that have Mecha and they are called Skells. X have a skell that's called Ares Prime and it's connect to the Conduit. So, it's similar to that of Alvis, Malos, and Pnuema from the main series. It can not only survive an entire Universe being destroyed, but can also traveled into another one. It's said to be just as powerful as a universe being destroy and it's powered by souls from the collective unconscious. How powerful is it?

Yoko...

Like I said Goku breaking hits time skip can just be a Hit being shit, but how come Gotenks doesn't count? is it because the exact time it took wasn't clear?

Reminds me of how JJK caps at Mach 2 and MHA at Mach 10, realistically mangakas aren't going to do math like that.

HE'S
JUST
TOO
POWERFUL

So why doesn't the crew at DB ever do battles between fictional nations and states? Helldivers 2 Super Earth vs the UNSC could make for a fun battle.

That spacebattles one...

You fuckers weren't kidding, those guys truly are hyper autist when it comes to this shit. Those destiny threads were especially autistic.

It's only mentioned he's slower than Jiren and anyone closer to him.

i'm moving godzillafag to boundless beast try and stop me

THE DRILLER OF DC
THE PIERCER OF SWANK
THE COSMOLOGY CRUSHER
THE LANTERN GRAVE DIGGER
THE SOURCE WALL SMASHER
THE MAN WHO DID THE IMPOSSIBLE

SIMON THE DIGGER

Ben 10 won

And Toppo too. That's the actual context of the scene.

why is he on the Bejita chair?

BejitaBro back to the halls for punishment

Anti-monitor and Spectre added

Kek

Homura is pretty much the Death Battle Queen in terms of Matchups people want with her.

loses to Dave

See

There's a big fucking gap between Raditz and Jiren

It's a combination of that and the fact that if you do properly lowball the estimates it's not really a fantastic speed feat or anything.

Reminds me of how JJK caps at Mach 2 and MHA at Mach 10,

I think that anon was moreso referring with the fact powerlevels don't really seem to linearly scale with speed and that the vagintillions of times multipliers people wanted to use for Goku dodging lightning as a kid just don't actually match reality.

People just use Buu's human extinction attack to determine how fast their attacks go in Z from what I see.

the literal barrier between multiversal and boundless

has trapped countless heralds from both Marvel and DC

hailed as Kyle’s “unbeatable wincon”

so unimportant that it isn’t even mentioned by name in the analysis

Simon blows through it BY ACCIDENT, Kyle didn’t even have time to process using it against him before it was destroyed

Literally, how do capeshitbros come back from this?

Does she actually lose? The podcast was kind of confused there. But I think the guy who repped Simon against Kyle said Dave would beat her, so I guess he might be right.

Ehh it beats using values from comics that don't know what logarithmic scales are

It was downplayed in power

can someone make a version with the flags replaced with the Team Gurren flags

Homestuck is one of those bullshit verses where everything is said and nothing is calcable practically winning via toonforce like all the other verses without hard numbers do

CANOOOOOOOOOOOON!

Takes him.

gotenks flying the globe (around lightspeed)

dyspo who's stronger flying to another planet (FTL)

goddamn, DB being an amazingly consistent franchise as usual.

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Anons who actually talk about the show

Multiversal GODS

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Galaxy CHADS

SimonCHADS, AsuraCHADS, TomCHADS

POWER GAP

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Street level shitters

Benfags, Kylefags, Sonicfags

POWER GAP

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weaker than an atom faggots.

Listroon, Nikofag, Indian Cuckold Fetishists, Godzillafag, Kratosfags

Not even worth mentioning

Everyone else.
This list is CANON.

i moved godzilla up one tier

^
this post was made by a TomKEK
ignore it

he missed

SS1 Gotenks flies around the Earth (Dragon Ball Z Volume 24)

The minimum amount of time (which like Tao is impossible unless he flew to Buu in zero seconds) is 30 minutes. I'm also just assuming [the 5 rings]() are the ground level circumfrence instead of the actual far higher height

(5 * 40,075) / 30 minutes = 6,679.167 kilometers per minute, KPH, MPH, or mach 324.5465
Buutenks punches a energy blast through the Earth (Dragon Ball Z Volume 25)

Just as a note I'm just gonna say that it travlled through the entire planet or a distance of 12,742 kilometers (7,917.512 miles)

12,742 Kilometers / 60 Seconds = 212.367 kilometers per second, 131.9587 miles per second, or mach 619.145

12,742 Kilometers / 10 Seconds = 1,274.2 kilometers per second, 791.7512 miles per second, or mach 3,714.8688

12,742 Kilometers / 5 Seconds = 2,548.4 kilometers per second, 1,583.5 miles per second, or mach 7,429.7376

12,742 Kilometers / 1 Second = 12,742 kilometers per second, 7,917.512 miles per second, or mach? 36,361.516 (4.1% light speed)

Could the BOUNDLESS BEASTS THAT SOLO FICTION take on Simon?

Yes

Bearchads, we are forgotten...

which like Tao is impossible

Tao can get Immeasurable speed because he's cool as fuck

Quads of truth confirm.

No

WOOOOOOW IT TOOK ALL THREE OF YOU TO BEAT BOOTA

youtube.com/watch?v=26zZk_33Dek
These guys bench press Kratos.

OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
3 - 0

K,b,c.

noncanon crossover

We did it, we finally assembled a team to take on pre timeskip Gurren Lagann, let’s just pray that it’s enough…

MarvelGODS are fine.

Otto is so irrelevant he's not mentioned

Cope. They're all as powerful as their canon selves because capeshit has no coherent power levels since their strength is a RNG based and never meant to make sense at all. The writers literally tell you this to your face.

guys....that was just the gunmen from episode 1

A wall is still a wall. And a drill breaks through walls.

K, b, c.

Ewing saying this

while wanking Thor even further

Kek.

the same is true for gayshitter then, except even moreso

the whole point of death battle and battleboarding is to take them out of the story and see how they do, fuckwad

capeshitters trying to lecture others when they read this

KWAB

THORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHORTHOR

zillatard got so mindbroken by the ohnochad he moved onto seething over thor

KEKYPOW!

Taking him out of the story doesn't mean deciding to apply all of your headcanons onto them.

He's basically a Xeelee but a thousand times weaker.

SIMONSIMONSIMONSIMONSIMONSIMONSIMONSIMONSIMON

All ever do is talk about guys fighitng...what about the girls?

This guy is so based he showed up, delivered the one good in-game Destiny story in its entire lifetime, and fucked off to leave the franchise in ruins

Don’t mention the girls, lest you awaken Yoko the FUJOSHI…

I fully believe Goku would get rolled by this dude in 99% of encounters.

KIRBYKIRBYKIRBY THAT'S THE NAME YOU SHOULD KNOW KIRBYKIRBYKIRBY HE'S THE STAR OF THE SHOW

So you admit they're both hypocrites throwing stones from glass houses?

Matchup for this theme?

Godzilla doesn't tell the reader his setting makes zero sense and you're retarded for trying to take it seriously or make sense of it so no.

If Godzilla loses, won’t Toho just copyright strike Death Battle? It’s literally in their rules that he’s not allowed to lose.

boy I'd fuck the shit out of Tiff/Fumu

wow, he's REAL mad
man sorry bud, it's just two fictional characters fighting in a fanfic match

DC specifically makes a story that says "all that shit is canon now, don't worry about reboots"

but but, comicvine head-cannons

maybe you should appeal to the material and not the authority of cliques on the internet

Post Hal Jordan time traveling on his own power in new 52 or Rebirth.

give it a break, you don't have kaijufag's discord, you've been posting your spam since 2023, fine a new gimmick lmao

Kyle and Simon touching the tips of each other's drills...

using statements now

I guess Alien X is really omnipotent after all!

Godzilla losing causes the end of Death Battle

Kickstarter boycottxirs, why is HE capable of doing what WE couldn’t………

yeah
u mad

Godzilla takes down Death Battle itself

Strongest contestant OF ALL TIME. Legions of SHITkufags couldn't come close

Can CHAD BOUNDLESSWALKER MINDRAPED THE BOUNDLESS BEASTS THAT SOLO FICTIONS??

The four FRAUDS of powerscaling

Wait until he destroys Mark's canonical sub house level durability.

clean your dishes

Silly anon, Goku simply Chainscales to Beerus who beat Galaxia, who REMOVED a death battle video. Making him affect REALITY

Nappa? Boundless

The four NONFRAUDS of powerscaling

What's your verse of choice that Mark solos and made you salty?

Alien X might stand a stance against BOUNDLESS Gordan Freeman too.

Lel

I FUARKING LOVE INDIA!!! I WILL DEFEND IT TO THE DEATH!!

DCbro...

turns off Doomslayer’s ability to feel anger (he has no reason to fight anymore)

re-implants toxic masculinity into Kratos, making him abandon his son and go back to banging Valkyries and tearing pantheons in half

makes Dante gay for Vergil (Yoko requested this one personally)

You’re welcome, /dbg/

Steven Universe > House

I wonder what elf tastes like.

SnyderCHAD

Kylebro...

Sukuna is for Ubel

This is what I think of your gems, Steven!!!!!

B-B-BUT DEATH BATTLE SAID I WOULD WIN SWAN SAVE M-AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Simon winning was the worst thing to happen to these threads.

Snyderbro…

Full ver

GODmon winning was the best thing to happen to these halls.

Post your verse's Sundisk. Now.

Simon winning was the best thing to happen to these threads.

He said this.

being able to post Yoko and bring up how ridiculous TTGL is at times, is a blessing to these threads

Kratos winning was the best thing to happen to these threads.

Sorry I meant Kratos.

Simonjeet...

files.catbox.moe/woeh1p.mp4 (actual clip of show btw)
Simon: "but why...why can't I stop thinking of what Kyle did with Yoko and Nia...I'm thinking of it over and over...they will never love a pathetic worm like me compared to him--"
*WHAM*
Kyle decks cucky Simon in the face, knocking out his manlet teeth and sending him sprawled head over feet by Kyle's fist
Kyle: "Shaddup Beetch. Suck ma dick you little cuck, Yoko loved it heh heh. She needs a real man like ME."
Simon: "K-Kyle Aniki...you're telling me you heckin believe in me??!! Wowie Zowie, I wanna receive your praise! Then maybe if you take pity on me while you fuck the girls I love that will make me cool! I'll worship you like an idol role model forever and ever and be your doormat for life and everyone else will too so please gimme your approval oh Yoko and My master!"
Kyle: "Yeah whatever Beetch. Believe in yourself and sheet, imma go fuck Yoko again now cause you could never, heh heh. Now go polish my stinky sandals or else you i'll beat you up again little beetch."
Kyle punches cucky Simon in the teeth again and Simon cries (in gratitude to Kyle-Aniki giving him his approval)

Kek, based, canon.

Maybe Simon winning was a fucking mistake...

I know what you are

DCjeets…

Fair, it's the pedo tranny's choice and should be stricken from existence

Simon winning was the worst thing that happened to India.

good

Thats why Homu Bernkastel is superior

Both have lore involving "witches"

Both time looped.

If you buy the semi confirned Rika = Bern connection, both were innocent kind girls turned into cold cosmic beings/villanous figures in "sequel" material.

Chance to animate stuff we only see in text for Bern.

Both break expectations thematically with how violent both shows are for what you thought was a simple slice of life (higurashi) and Magical girl show

In the fight, Bern scaring the fuck out of Homura and making her regain some of that lost humanity would be so dramatic, perhaps taunting that she operates on a scale she cannot even comprehend/ Talk down to her saying there is nothing she can do anymore as her death was written in red truth.

---
and no cringe pitch involved

Reminder the Presence has no free will so all of DC/Vertigo jobs to causality and they aren't even above cause and effect.

Okay, so I think there’s a way for Hulk to beat even SP Novelization Godzilla

Superior Higher-Dimensional Existence (Countless-D; The universe is like something from a TV show compared to it, can engulf universes from a hyperspatial perspective, has a multiverse as part of itself, creatures connected to countless mathematical dimensions are but a part of it[21])

Okay, so Eternity’s M-Body has the Endless ripoffs as his family who view the Marvel universe as fiction they can edit lke a comic.

HOWEVER. That’s just an M-Body, and True Eternity can be scaled to the First Firmament….. who was turned into chains the Hulk broke a couple months ago.

Ergo, Hulk can rage himself from “barely nuke level” to “able to punch the reader into the face” in a single moment a la Simon .

And that’s WITHOUT Worldbreaker.

... it wasn't. Even as a kid, Simon was too much for us.

Should've specified WHEN pre-timeskip, because by 15 Simon was already an army-destroying jugernauts and it took a literal mountain-sized monstrosity and his nearly-as-strong father in law to give him pause.

Avatar speaking btw

Simon is built differently. look at this shit

TOAA has no power outside of the comic book page he's on. Marvel is on the bottom layer of an endless series of narrative layers and not near the top. Only being being on the top layers grant you any kind of power.
And R>F layers are blatantly retarded anyways since they just render your entire setting below fiction.

Neither does Simon. THey’re Al fictional, they can’t do anything. HOWEVER. As shown, you can be called outerverssk if the story pretends you can go from fictional to real.

i know these people are mean to you but this art is cool listroon

Except we have no indication that the mangaka Simon is in a layer of reality that's below several other layers. The "real world" in TTGL isn't viewed as fictional to other fictional characters above them.
TOAA is seen as fictional to every being that's above him. And TOAA is supposed to be more powerful than every Marvel character so the entire Marvel universe would be seen as fictional to anyone above them.

Anon Babblebros...we exist as a TV show in the world of Hello Kitty??

duh

I was always confused by this. Who the fuck is actually in charge of the DC Universe. Is it the presence, the monitors, perpetua(however the fuck you spell her name), the new gods, the literal fucking comic writers?

Feel like this shit changes every other year.

When Simon uses his ultimate drill on me and it backfires the moment it touches one of my atoms, killing him instantly because I was too much of a BOUNDLESS BEAST

Except we have no indication that the mangaka Simon is in a layer of reality that's below several other layers. The "real world" in TTGL isn't viewed as fictional to other fictional characters above them.
TOAA is seen as fictional to every being that's above him. And TOAA is supposed to be more powerful than every Marvel character so the entire Marvel universe would be seen as fictional to anyone above them.

Yeah, it’s called para physics. It’s like how SCP has OUR world as fictional to something else.

Still a jump for fictional to reality, similar to how they dd the same for the Source.

Except Godzilla’s IT form kinda caps there while Hulk can grow…. So….

Kratos... that was boota...

Only one Godzilla has a hard limit, anon.

CANON

If you inhabit a world that's seen as fictional by another physical world that transcends it, then you're subfictional. It's no different than Matrix simulations being below fiction because they're considered fiction inside a fictional setting.

Damn, I remember when co niggas used to think the source wall was actually cool...

Kratos... that was Lordgenome's head...

Kratos... that was kyle...

I would've loved to see that ship those bitches stole crash into the zoo. The explosion would've been enough to completely vaporize them.

That half-breed abomination's atoms would've been smeared at FTL speeds. And it would've been a sight to behold.

True. Lower layers of a narrative hierarchy have no power over the higher layers in the same way a Matrix computer program can't affect the real world intangibly when they're still stuck in virtual form. You only have power once you're on top of the layers that you see as fiction.

Does any Godzilla have any feats of going from fiction to real?

If you inhabit a world that's seen as fictional by another physical world that transcends it, then you're subfictional. It's no different than Matrix simulations being below fiction because they're considered fiction inside a fictional setting

Counterpoint, that assumes THIS reality in said cosmology is the limit when both Marvel and DC have had the real world as fiction to and other higher being

The Source Wall WAS cool, and then it got subjected to the jobber treatment like all cape characters that exist for a long enough period of time (remember when TOAA used to be THE guy everyone thought was omnipotent?)

SCP-3812 disagrees

It’s how they got banned from VSBW

Entiredy of Singular Point.

The manga version of TTGL replaces the short rematch Viral had with Simon with a literal cutaway to Enki looking completely battered

KEK

3812 just endlessly ascends up higher layers to gain power over lower layers

That just means the real world is below fiction in DC and Marvel too.
If you're fictional inside fiction you are by definition below fiction.

STARS ARE FOOOORMING

BIG BANG STOOOOOOORMING

This is so pretentious it made me wince

below fiction level

KWAB

R>F layers means Wrestlers solo fiction because of kayfabe

Reality > Fiction > Below Fictional

This metafictional shit is retarded, I want to go back to the days of battleboarding when planet busting was seen as the peak of power.

it was never the peak per se, but the herald tier benchmark for sure

I remember when Goku busting an universe with beerus was the most impactful feat ever performed in fiction

and probably still is ngl

There are scans of Marvel's cosmology being a simulation which means their setting isn't exactly real even when taken in the context of its own internal logic.

alongside Cell solar system busting i dont remember any other feat / poeer scaling event being as discussed

You mean this? I've seen it before.

Bros I can’t even go one day without gooning, I always job to boundless urges

lol... wrestlers do affect the real world, you're not wrong there. there's a lot of bullshit about "this character heckin reached out to us in the page" and "they're ideas that supersede fiction!!" but pro wrestlers DO affect the real world while being fictional characters. Hulk Hogan did choke out Richard Belzer in real life and David Schultz did slap the shit out of John Stossel in real life

Bejita...

which dragon ball character would have the best chance against simo-

none of them

I only masturbate to characters 2-A or above

The idea of real life wrestlers being superior to nonexistent fictional characters is redundant and meaningless because they can't even interact in the first place without creating fictional versions of themselves. The real world Undertaker can't fight a 2D character that doesn't even exist IRL. The claim is pure lunacy and this is the type of idiotic bullshit conclusion you arrive at by accepting current powerscaling systems.

youtu.be/f84ciGBhK8o

Everyone in Dragon Ball

In brightest day, in blackest night
No evil shall escape my sight
let those who worship evil's might
Beware my power!

GREEN LANTERN'S LIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!!!

let me guess... the Undertaker beats your favorite meta character.

Dissidia makes everyone Tier 2 for some reason so at least I can masturbate to Aerith.

MEOWTH DATS RIGHT

How is this different from God dreaming existence into being?

Multidimensional Probability Variation Control technique with cannons that shoot down omnidirectionally to every single point of space-time

Goku... you fucking idiot...

Metafaggotry is the result of vsbattles being raped so hard by spacebattles on the definition of "outerversal" they basically had to start suggversing.

ttgl was already a thing before super THO

I know real people are superior to fictional characters but I'm not stupid enough to believe they can actually interact with and fight them in our real world.

Never the guy

Never drew a dime

Never had a good match before 2006 and even then was carried by vastly superior workers

Never cut a memorable promo

Never put anyone over

Never had the balls to step out his WWF comfort even when Ted Turner threw millions at him

Main evented the lowest drawing Wrestlemania of the '90s

Main evented the lowest drawing Wrestlemania of the '10s

Tanked the buyrate of King Of The Ring in 2002 so hard the PPV got cancelled

Was barely ever in the main title picture because he was never a big enough deal

Only the 2nd best member of The Brothers of Destruction

Only the 4th best member of The Ministry

Only the 8th best member of The Corporate Ministry

His backstage clique "The Bone Street Krew" was utterly BTFO by The Kliq and achieved nothing notable except inflicting Savio Vega on us

His biker cosplay was cringeworthy

His MMA cosplay was cringeworthy

Unironically calls himself """"""""DA BEST PURE STRIKER IN DA WWE""""""""

Shit taste in whiskey

Shit hairline

Has his ex wife's tattooed on his neck

Failed at his first marriage so badly that he resorted to marrying an anorexic bimbo

Only significant achievement was accidently being booked to have a Wrestlemania streak

Is the wrestling equivalent of that one insufferably mediocre middle manager whose sole professional """""""achievement"""""" is staying in the same shitty job for 25 years

Drew so poorly in his 1997 title run that Bret Hart of all people had to take the belt off him spent the latter part of his career burying superior young talent

The biggest impact he had on the business was sitting around in the back and telling one of his no-draw buddies to job to someone who could actually draw dime.

God dreaming existence into being relies on a noncorporeal immaterial metaphysical source for sustaining reality which is beyond human comprehension and can't be destroyed.
When your reality is sustained by something physical like a sheet of paper or a computer drive then it's maintained by something that's physical which doesn't transcend the basic limitations of time and space and can be made or easily destroyed by anyone in their garage.

The Hulkster told the Gremlins to STFU and let him enjoy his movie in peace. What do you say to that???

Metaphysical barriers are weaker than you give them credit for

nice try, downplayer. but i distinctly remember John Cena saving Mystery Incorporated from a giant boulder by pushing it out of the way like Chris Redfield

Was STTGL as discussed in the vs community as the beerus vs god goku punch

They're still stronger than sheets of paper that's for sure.

at this time it probably is, since DB brought attention to how fucking OP Gurren Lagann is

Fuark you're smarter than Grant Morrison

DC out of NOWHERE

The fun part about Type IV multiverses is that all of non-fiction and fiction are considered equally real and present inside it and metafaggotry only scales horizontally

Did DCfags really get upset over Otoko that they had to turn to Morrison's schizophrenic ramblings about the pages being "God" to try and get a one-up on TTGL

Which reality is stronger?

The one's actually real and not seen as fictional by normal 3D beings and sustained by an omnipotent God with limitless power

Or

The one created and maintained on a finite sheet of paper in some place full of clearly normal people that see it as fiction below the actual reality

VSBWtards will tell you the latter is somehow more powerful despite being sustained by literal physical paper.

In terms of anime, TTGL has the most visually impressive feats. In terms of video games, it’s Asura’s Wrath. Which cartoon has the most visually impressive feats?

The latter applies to both DC and TTGL according to Grant Morrison and Death Battle.

The god was just fiction okay?

CGIGODS are more real than real life AND fiction btw as Avatar proved with it's BOUNDLESS power that caused multiple people to kill themselves to join the Na'vi.

An metaphysical source of reality isn't seen as fictional within its own fictional universe.
A universe on a piece of paper is seen as fiction inside fiction. It's below fiction.

Are we actually debating rather or not fictional characters are real?

Bring me Medaka Kurokami, Alan Wake, and Milkman Man!

Not as much discussion as DB has, but it debuted on Anon Babble powerlevel charts and got brought up on occasion

CALM DOWN SIMON

By this logic you now realize Unineko is just a series of matrix simulations stacked on top of each other sustained by paper

I am saying the god was a god in the sense that a DnD god some guy wrote is divine.
The power gap between a fictional entity and a non-fictional entity goes beyond divinity, it is immeasurable, it is "transcendental" which is the building block that VSBW operates on.

They use that as the new definition of "outerversal" standing above and outside the "verse" in perhaps the lamest possible fucking resolution to spacebattle autists philosophically raping them up down and sideways

So racism just doesn't exist in TTGL

a series of matrix simulations stacked on top of each other sustained by paper

That's SCP too.

Oh and panty and stocking are there too for some reason

If you're not fictional inside your own fictional setting than you won't suffer from a power gap which someone who is seen as fictional to someone else in their fictional setting has. it's that simple. Any omnipotent God would be real in their own setting.

God? That guy's probably a jobber in his metaphysical layer.

Gooood boy, just keep on killing...

not according to VSBW, if you're a modern religious God then you're tier 0 except Mormon God

Any transcendental God would already on the top layer of unreality. Otherwise they're frauds like the tons of supposed omnipotents with numerous antifeats.

he's 21, ma'am

I see lots of paper level subfictional cope in this thread.

They all job eventually.

I am fully on board with the idea that if you're setting engages in metafaggotry that anything said to be fictional is immediately assumed to functionally not exost and in any powerscaling sitiation we immediately default to the highest meta-plane to start any cosmology analysis.
Because that's what any sane person would do, and if we won't do that than vsbattle should bring SCP back and make a Super-boundless category for being meta-meta-fictional

VSBW at least knowledges narrative layers are still inferior to the ontological superiority associated with actually being omnipotent now.

Kratos? Resolved omnipotence paradoxes successfully unlike every other omnipotent in fiction.

Nobody. The entire cosmology is sentient.

FUARK...I kneel.
EruSCHOLAR is the only beyond boundless poster here...

with the newest retcon it's still The Presence with him "let their be light"ing the Source and Omniverse into existence which also retcons away the whole Presence = Source thing

Kratos? FLEES from rocks and gets GAPED by bears.

Those rocks and bears are empowered by Eru Ilúvatar btw

Your franchise spawned this monstrosity. Your argument is invalid.

Most beastmen integrated with no issue. Those who were too misanthropic or were war criminals were locked up in Licarne/Rikarune.

CORRECTION. Here's the TRVE LIST:

OFFICIAL /dbg/ POSTER TIER LIST

Boundless BEASTS

GodzillaCHADS, AsuraCHADS, and SimonCHADS

Multiversal GODS

ThumbnailAnon

Galaxy CHADS

Sonicfags

POWER GAP

...
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Street level shitters

Anons who actually talk about the show, Benfags

POWER GAP

...
...
...

weaker than an atom faggots.

Listroon, Nikofag, Indian Cuckold Fetishists, Kratosfags

Not even worth mentioning

Everyone else.

This list is TRVE CANON.

Bendis.

That's just an average Tuesday in DC

How DARE you portray evil monsters as…… evil monsters!?!?!?!?

Sonicfags

CHADS

My dudes… kill this fake Asurascholar.

This is just kaijufag falseflagging and HBOCing btw

he's STILL seething

go to bed already, we all know your time zone faggot

KaijuCHAD out of NOWHERE

Fuck....I'm not even matrix simulation level.

Nikocuck...

kaijufag is indian just based on the time zone

oh no no no

Godzilla > Marvel's simulation cosmology

Facts

KAIJUKAIJUKAIJUKAIJUKAIJUKAIJUKAIJUKAIJU

HBOCnic

um.....actually YOU'RE the obsessed one!

Simon tore open a hole in space time with JUST Arc Gurren

Y'know maybe we shouldn't have put this guy up against Kyle this seemed a little unfair.

GODnic out of NOWHERE

Huh. Does any other character have as many MUs as Homura?

even composite Godzilla jobs to webcomic characters despite existing for less than a fraction of Godzilla's history

How many does she have?

Galaxy CHADS

Sonicfags

You lost me there.

OFFICIAL /dbg/ POSTER TIER LIST

Boundless BEASTS

AsuraCHADS, SimonCHADS and ToonCHADS

Multiversal GODS

ThumbnailAnon

Galaxy CHADS

People who actually talk about the show and MarioCHADS

POWER GAP

...
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Street level shitters

Kylefags, Benfags and Marvelfags

POWER GAP

...
...
...

weaker than an atom faggots.

Listroon, Nikofag, Indian Cuckold Fetishists, Kratosfags, Dragon Ballfags and DCfags

Not even worth mentioning

Everyone else.

Only exist to be mocked by everyone else

Sonicfags

from the op thats 8
plus kurumi, honestuck guy and spawn

godzillafag deleted but nikofag is still there

Minor mistake but I’ll allow it.

Why are you guys still talking about capeshit character #23883 and tranime character #26276? Their fight is over and capeshit lost as expected cthullu would've won btw

JOBcraft babble

Isn't Mario technically below fiction since the games are stage plays and Bowser is friendly enough with him to have parties with him?
It's literally subreality level.

cthullu

CHADbane beats this guy.

Lovecraft mythos

FODDERIZED by a literal who mecha setting for pedophiles that barely has any above city level feats btw

Yes, the entire verse was dreamed by a fish.

FUCK everyone is getting exposed as subfictional fodder this thread...I hope nobody exposes me...

DC...

Simon...

a fictional stage play inside fiction

You're telling me Mario is Danganronpa level?

Soon....

Didn't Doomsday Clock say their multiverse just kinda restarts itself around superman or some shit?

Their metafaggotry already got exposed earlier tho

Fire Emblem is the strongest nintendo verse.

Sothis implies all of Smash Bros is her dream

Pertaining to this season, dyspo statement contradicts swank "research" about bardock. According db researchers, bardock is millions mftl. Yet the rabbit, who is millions of times stronger than the combined saiyan race minus goku and vegeta, is only light speed.
This is precisely why classic battleboarding was great due to the requirement that whoever made character profiles needed to be checked by other users who actually questioned said work. This is why, for instance, dbz was stuck at planet busting, massively hypersonic characters due to contradiction in feats, and overall dismissal of autists complains such as le macrocosmos and le infinite universe.
As a matter of fact you can go to kanzenshuu and ask if bardock is mftl+, and they'll laugh at you.

to be fair, they probably did that just so that omni man wouldn't have ended up taking every category since they knew it was already going to be a shitshow

literally made by Nintendo so they approved it

Shit

Gacha slop

Light speed is literally a english mistranslation. The name is simply maximum speed mode.

Good thing we have AI now

gacha slop with characters that scale to and reference shin megami tensei too.

dypso's entire thing is that everybody is shitting bricks at the idea of a character who's just now "surpassed light" it has nothing to do with the name of the mode

max speed mode

want me to post the 2 tons supes panel?

please read what I said again

want me to post the 2 tons supes panel

i don't care about capeslop

In mobile trash with zero relevance

Its the most succesful nintendo gacha and its on its 7th year.

Eat shit. Play better games.

8th year
feb 2nd 2017

Its the most succesful nintendo gacha

Wow, such a cluttered category to earn such prestige!

They said he was faster than light in his base form and he had a technique that made him faster than that which was pointed out.

Yes, actually.

Granola kicks goku, then the saiyans gets thrown several meters away.To stop from going further away, goku grabs a branch from a random tree that mitigated the force of the previous attack. The branch and the tree were left intact btw.
So much for goku being mftl+....

Again, Beggining of Z piccolo blowing up the moon is already relativistic.

Kaiohken already makes em be FTL.

Sonic is below fiction

No, actually.

I'm just saying the episode only focuses on his speed after he uses that technique.

Krillin's kienzan was slower than vegeta scream, and nappa barely dodge it. If nappa had ftl reactions he would've come unharmed.
Forget kyle, dbz is the true fraudverse

Coping because Sothis solos your favorite franchise

Kyle is slower than deathstroke so that evens out

...and Batman.

Coping because gachaslop enjoyer

Goku is showing his friends the shukanido. In one moment, he appears then reappears with roshi sunglasses. Krillin who saw frieza (who soloed the saiyan race) and goku (who beat the guy who soloed the saiyan race) fighting was perplexed at such sight. Light speed would've done the same thing, but goku wasn't light speed. Just a saiyan who got perpetually stuck at massively hypersonic tier. This is dbz goku mind you because dbs goku is slower and stupider...

I am so FUARKING POWERFUL... I literally PROJECTED a BOUNDLESS AVATAR into Simon's FICTIONAL COSMOLOGY and NEG-DIFFED him...

Kyle is subfictional like the rest of DC so he has no speed tho

I believe batman had better chances of beating simon than kyle.

K, b, c.

No, they didn't. For all we know (and powerscaling should at least try to be objective) Toppo was referring to his max speed mode as how Dypso was capable of surpassing light.
The fact they even need to make a big deal about a character surpassing lightspeed is a huge red flag and says all you need to know about speed before this point.
This is literally the best speed feat in the entire series except for Dypso, it's clearly an enormous outlier and/or the beams accelerate over long distances.
We already have shit like Android Saga Krillin needing to go all out to outspeed a plane, you're not winning FTL fucking Saiyan Saga nigger.

perpetually stuck

slower

You contradicted your own post

Canon
Fanon

Headcanon

Light bullet and max speed mode are two different things in the show.

Dbz goku=/=DBS goku

travel speed is the same as combat speed

yawn

Brave sisters and trans allies, a drink to our victory over Bejita...

Popeye did this btw

Why did that conversation over speed even start?

why would they talking mean theyre not ftl?

You want me to post any comic page where they speak whole speeches in between punches?

Just eat shit, Kyle lost.

It's part of triggerverse so it makes sense

Ladies ladies please calm down, both of your franchises are frauds btw

If their attacks are slower than sound, then they aren't ftl.
Btw goku (stronger than bardock) took several minutes to cross the snake way. If goku was light speed, he would've done it in 4 seconds.
Fraudball Z...

dckeks using mistranslations

how low theyve fallen. Why not relax and go play some multiversus?

so all of dc and marvel are not beyond light speed either since they talk in the middle of fights?

They blow up the moon routinely though. The actual issue is the ki speed (during those moments) is never consistent with their flight speed (because Toriyama didn't really think a lot about it). They could blow up a planet whenever but their fights up to Cell could easily be supersonic.

Touhou had an official Hello Kitty crossover

Sanae in Touhou is an explicit fan of mecha and DBZ and Mario

BEYOND FICTION

I don't care about capeshit though, but yes dbz is nothing but fraudulent characters who are slow and weak...

I... I CAN'T!!!

Was that selfish?

so are all comics and books where people speak to each other while fighting

fuck every human who THINKS too
popularmechanics.com/science/health/a63577099/speed-limit-human-thought/

human minds are not ftl either

In reply to this being explicitly slower than light. The entire discussion was about marvel speeds earlier.

talking

sub ftl trash

That explains the melty then.

The issue isn't the talking but the fact that vegeta warning reached nappa faster than the kienzan. Subsonic attacks coming from a slow and weak verse...

Shoves bugs down your favorite characters throat

Can anyone beat her bug control and retardation field generations?

So why are you people still seething over this a thread later

SLAUGHTERS Superman

PUMMELS Popeye

SHREDS Sonic

KILLS Kratos

GORES Goku

CURBSTOMPS Kirby

DESTROYS Doomslayer

MANHANDLES Mickey Mouse

Breeds Reimu

SCOURGES Sephiroth

LAYS WASTE to Link

OBLITERATES Omni-man

FASTER than Flash

HUMILIATES Hulk

TORTURES Thor

BRUTALIZES Baxter's verses

Super GODrio bros... what did we do to deserve such a HERO???

ENOUGH from the Simonfags!

You're arguing that shouting in fiction means they are not capable of superhuman feats

this is the most retarded argument ever posted on these threads

faster than mach 3

all my favourite matchups aren't ever happening.

who wins?
Corvo vs Booker

mario is fiction to both Fire Emblem and Animal crossing (NES games on gamecube)

I…. AM INCAPABLE…….

PLEASE speak up Simonchads!

I was making fun of Swan's """"research"""" and autists take offense at that and latched onto it for whatever reason.

STARS ARE FORMING.
BIG BANG STORMING.

Mario is fictional to Donkey Kong btw

animal crossing IS a dream to FE

Mario has a layer of unreality below two other series

Ben 10.

Nanomech.

Too small and already retarded

Saint Seiya charas have a force field of cosmos within, so just powrring up kills the bugs

so does dragon ball. Ki aura gg

The guy who can stop fucking time.

Swan doesn't post here. He's too busy jacking off to lolicon.

Mario is fictional to Touhou

Somehow supposed to do anything to Reimu

???

Nuly...

I am so FUARKING POWERFUL... I literally PROJECTED a BOUNDLESS AVATAR into Mario's FICTIONAL COSMOLOGY and NEG-DIFFED him...

Reimu…

Anon if saiyan saga characters were ftl, then why was krillin kienzan slower than vegeta speech?
Let's put this way, if you were to shoot someone, and someone else screamed at the target "dodge", would they do it? No, because the bullet was faster than the speed of sound. Thus by the time that other person warned your target, he'll likely be dead. Is that simple, now let's go back to the kienzan. Krillin shot his energy attack towards his saiyan target. Midway through the attack, vegeta screamed at his companion to dodge, which he barely did. If the kienzan were ftl, then why it traveled slower than sound? See is that simple, and screaming muh capeshit won't change the fact that dbz characters are slow and weak...

It would be expensive to animate in a way that would satisfy everyone. Since the animations are by and large the draw for the series, the team generally needs to cover things that are more feasible to animate.
However, Death Battle is apparently expanding their content going forwards (the fools they are, they should be aware from RoosterTeeth that more shows does not translate to more views inherently), so it is totally possible that they might diverge into nonstandard coverage.

already debunked you.
eat shit.

Sonic...

A goku model in GG STRIVE's code is necessary for it to run properly. If removed, it crashes

Literally holding the guilty gear verse thru sheer presence on an outerversal scale beyond fiction

…’s master Wally…

Damn that damage control is pathetic.

Shockwave is in Genshin Impact’s files meaning that he is also outerversal and beyond fiction.

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you paid 80 fucking bucks for him and helped ruin gaming

Are you implying that bullets, on average, are slower than sound? Good lord, and when I thought dbzfags couldn't sink any lower and they do it for a slow and weak verse. I pity you anon, really do...

Write this correctly, SaintBROWN.

Kirby...

does it crash if you remove him

if you talk in the middle of battles it means you are sub sound level now

If sound reaches your target before your attack, then said attack is subsonic. See, fighting till the end to protect that slow and weak verse...

Is your hero a cuck? A blacked nintendo-switch-playing cuckold whose wife or girlfriend and even mother has sex with other men?

Then KINGtos beats the shit out of them in a fight, zero-diff. Be like Kingtos, Say NO to the degredation of masculinity.

If you talk in the middle of battles it means you're above the concept of speed. All speech you make is a platonic act of utterance that goes beyond the plot of whatever fiction you're in and transcends it.

no girl likes you

Spend all day kissing the ass of your BVLL who you worship like a bitch and are basically self-enslaved to

He fucks all the girls you love

Every woman in the show calls you gross, weak and a midget to your face then worships Kamina and kisses his feet the next

Watch Kamina fucking the girls you love, get your ass beat by him whenever he wants to feel cool and push you around, everyone in the world worships Kamina and you're just his toadie

the only girl you ever get to tolerate you is some bizarre proxy existence where you must act like the man who she actually loves and worships and likes (Kamina) at all times because nothing about you ever interests her, and you know this

then she dies and Kamina fucks her in heaven too

kratos talks in the middle of battles too

sub sound speed level fraud confirmed

That's literally every show that calls out their attack names. So Pokemon, Yugioh, Sailor Moon and Digimon off the top of my head.
Plenty of others I miss out on.

nah man it just means every show that has em talk in the middle of a battle or THINKS in a fight is sub ftl fodder
popularmechanics.com/science/health/a63577099/speed-limit-human-thought/

sailor moon

Mirror level universes that are somehow weaker than GOW's country level macrocosms.

Is your hero a cuck? A blacked nintendo-switch-playing cuckold whose wife or girlfriend and even mother has sex with other men?

Then KINGtos beats the shit out of them in a fight, zero-diff. Be like Kingtos, Say NO to the degredation of masculinity.

DCbros……

Anon this isn't about talking during attacks but how the sound of someone speech traveled faster than the supposedly ftl kienzan. Is that simple. Neither saiyan saga nor the rest of dbz characters are light speed let alone ftl. Case closed

Shouting your attack names means your voice travels at the speed of sound retardanon.

What if they take several minutes to talk and they attack at the same speed?

Sailor Moonbros, Madokabros…….

KINGtos is the BOUNDLESS BEAST who SOLOS ALL OF FICTION. He transcends his feats infinitely. He transcends his lore infinitely. KINGtos is the only character who transcends fiction completely.

a single fight takes 20 years

kneel

Spits subsonic waterball at you

Yes speech is sound, and in dbz vegega speech warned nappa to dodge the incoming destructo disc. Meaning, the kienzan was traveling at subsonic speeds, and thus no saiyan saga character was light speed let alone ftl.
I consider this my victory btw as I came to the conclusion that you believe bullets are slower than sound. Pajeet tier reasoning coming from a show whose main character abandoned his family to raise a starving jeet kek

As someone who believes Goku is generally intended as someone who has the power to (if misused) threaten an entire universe multiple times over and is FFTL... I ultimately have to admit that I have no response on the explicit language used during the Tournament of Power regarding Dyspo and Frieza's declarations of speed and power.
Like clearly the intentions in those scenes is to make their respective notions seem impressive, but it goes against the idea of Goku that I have in my head so I ignore those times.

slowest fight in FICTION

holy FUWARK....

Kratosbros...we have competition....

more ESLbabble

I'm not even the original guy you were talking to about bullets with, we have different typing styles.
Anyone who shouts their attack names and has their attacks move at the same speed at which their opponent reacts to their speech would be slower than sound, which happens in a bunch of shows I can think of on top of the ones I already named.

Soon.....

That’s okay DCbros do the same when the idea that Superman has no limits is contradicted by literally all of his comic books.

KEKtos is the BITCHLESS BITCH who SOLOS ALL OF FICTION'S LAUNDRY. He transcends the laundry slowly. He jobs to the weakest character in his lore swiftly. KEKtos is the only character who jobs to all fiction completely.

You idiot this isn't about talking between fights, but how the supposedly ftl kienzan wasn't even able to reach nappa before vegeta screamed over the matter. At this point you sound like a pajeet who denies the situation of his country. Very pathetic and you are doing it over a slow and weak verse...

Again, I'm not the same person you were talking to before. I'm just pointing out anyone who shouts their attacks and has their opponents react to it would be slower than sound than sound if you use the sound barrier as a metric. The speed of Krillin's attack is no different than every other show that does this.

List of BOUNDLESS Bear feats:

Is the reason why DC cosmology is a gay flat pizza

Single-handedly makes Azathoth stay asleep out of fear

Tigers and all cats live in fear of him

Keeps Godzilla as a pet since all dinosaurs kneel to him

SLAUGHTERS Superman

PUMMELS Popeye

SHREDS Sonic

GORES Goku

CURBSTOMPS and ANNIHILATES Captain America

DESTROYS Doomslayer

MANHANDLES the Marvel Cinematic Universe

Breeds Reimu

SCOURGES Sephiroth

LAYS WASTE to Link

OBLITERATES Omni-man

FASTER than Flash

HUMILIATES Hulk

TORTURES Thor

BRUTALIZES Baxter's verses

Soloed composite fiction by tearing apart the paper it's on with its claws and also smashing apart the TV monitors they're displayed on

Raped Kratos so hard his beyond omnipotence power dropped to sub wall level and GOW'S beyond boundless cosmology got reduced to continent level fodder

Kratos could only defeat a decoy fictional bear and would get easily dispatched by a real bear that transcends fiction

Can easily kill Wrestlers that transcend fiction irl

Can one shot a T. rex despite being several times less massive

Personally responsible for the extinction of the Dinosaurs and rise of Mammalkind by using its time travel powers and beyond kratospotence strength to redirect that Dino killing asteroid at Earth

Kratos solos

Kratos get soloed

Kek canon

the sailortroon is here

Final question to you, how would you have felt yesterday evening if you hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch?

GOD, I FUCKING LOVE BEARS!
I LOVE THEIR EYES!
I LOVE THEIR EARS!
I LOVE THEIR NOSE!
I LOVE THEIR FUR!
I LOVE THEIR TEETH!
I LOVE THEIR TONGUE!
I LOVE THEIR CLAWS!
I LOVE THEIR TAILS!
I LOVE THEIR SMELL!
I LOVE THEIR ROARS!
I LOVE THEIR BACULUM!
I NEED ONE TO TEAR ME TO SHREDS AFTER MOLESTING ME!

Kratos…

Unfortunate Supes is your first MU

Bring it BITCH!!

Asurafags really need to accept the outcome and move on with their lives.

No amount of bitching will change the outcome.

Kratos is just stronger.

Post Kratos destroying a planet.

Frieren Rapes the entire JJKverse, that MU is Shigaraki Vs Mahito all over again

No he has to job to seiyafags on another forum somewhere again

Post Kratos destroying a planet.

Post Kratos moving faster than light.

Post Kratos destroying a multiverse
Post Kratos destroying a universe
Post Kratos destroying a galaxy
Post Kratos destroying a solar system
Post Kratos destroying a star
Post Kratos destroying a planet
Post Kratos destroying a moon
Post Kratos destroying a continent
Post Kratos destroying a country
Post Kratos destroying a mountain
Post Kratos destroying a city
Post Kratos moving faster than light
Post Kratos moving lightspeed
Post Kratos moving relativistic
Post Kratos moving hypersonic

Just do it. No words necessary. Post the image or video. Now.

No she doesn't. It's a good thing nobody really takes Frieren in powerscaling seriously, their verse struggles to catch birds without spells.

Frieren can casually destroy a chunk of a mountain, and she did that while trying to hold back her power.
She would release her mana and Sukuna would be erased from reality...
And that's just stats, when it comes to utility she not only violates the verse but would likely learn Jujutsu on the fly to directly negate any Technique they try to use against her. The fact that Sorcerers need to explain their techniques to make them stronger would make this process even faster

I...AM...INCAPABLE...

Birdbros...we win again.

Kratos destroyed a mountain in lost media that burnt up with proof of Bigfoot

I....
I......
I..... CAN.

Asurasissies...

statements

I laugh.

Frieren can tank an universal attack. Your verse is fodder.

Statements

FeatsCHAD victim

GODments

I peruse with scholarly intent.

All claims of infinity are statements btw

Feats always defeat StatementSISSIES. And they must agree because this is a statement.

look this up

it's real

This? A hyperbolic metaphor.

Until they get contradicted by fractions and percentages antifeats.

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In JJK 99% of all sorcerers would job to a bird crashing into them at mach 1 according to Mei Mei.
Only Gojo (because of his limitless) and Sukuna (because of his shrine) would survive this

When are we getting a Jesus themed MU?

*BURP* yup Mario is subfictional fodder

posting Knull's feats

That's true. Real life examples of infinity are presumed infinities because proving and falsifying them are impossible (at least given our current assumptions). We divine their infinitude based upon their appearances and how those appearances relate to concepts we have in mathematics.
Fiction, by its very construction, is finite. You can't examine a frame in a film and glean something is infinite through how we do so in real life. It is a quality that must be described as such.

Asura is a finite loser

OHNONONONONONONONO

The next statement is a lie. The previous statement is the truth.

The above statements transcend logic. They are stronger than a logical omnipotent who can't do that.

Kratos is a infinite loser

OHNONONONONONONO

Reminder that all of space was harmonized during Ragnarok but GOWankers won't tell you that because they never played the game

Statementbros…

a infinite

AsuraESL...

And how is this supposed to disprove that?

KEKYPOW!

I'm not totally satisfied with my explanation admittedly. There are many things in fiction that cannot be inherently self evident. Like imagine if DC never described the 5th and 6th dimensions names or qualities, but everything else about them remained the same. How much can you glean from just seeing what the Boomtubes do, but never named or described? I don't think you would arrive at them reconfiguring your atoms, but instead just think they are portals that grow you in size.

So is Fate. Everything in their setting runs on a computer.

CANON!

Computers are stronger than paper level verses thobeit

Simonbros...

boot up my astrophysics program on my PC

simulate a universe

blow up that universe multiple times

HOLY FUARK I'M AS STRONG AS MARIO, DC AND FATE PUT TOGETHER

I watch and read everything on my computer so all of fiction is sub-computer level.

retardation field generations

Canonically unaffected by such.
One bug spry construct and it's over

I wouldn’t know since I’ve never seen it but maybe Uncle Grandpa, you also have Ben 10, and in Regular Show Pops and Anti Pops are casually slamming their hands through planets

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