Let's try this again

Let's try this again.
Truly the best outcome for everyone.

Again who was this comic for?

People who find gender bender stuff hot?

they do that in real life except its called trains gender or whatever the fuck

Truly the best outcome for everyone.

Finn doesn't seem happy.

I hate the way the trans community keeps co-opting shit they have no actual relation to. Like "oh this fetish is actually a metaphor for my transition" please fucking stop.

Gender-bender crap grosses out my soul. It's a level of gay I can't comprehend. I see it as the death of identity; a destruction of self for perversion.

Your identity is so weak that growing a dick and balls would ruin your own concept of your identity?

stay away from kids pedo freak

Built for Ice King's big ice cock.

Finn doesn't seem happy.

Its very fitting for his character.

we had regular rule 63 threads ages ago

True, I like, participate and draw for those threads, but the way niggas keep spamming them piss me off.

They are supposed to be 1 every month. Niggas keep trying to make 1 every 3 days, and if there isn't one up he keeps making poorly disguised threads as replacement. Probably to get free art.

My bet is that its the same dude that keeps making the carol threads. Its know that he frequents both and have that mix of delusion and obssessiveness.

I see it as the death of identity

No, identity death is a subcategory of Transformation fetish. It doesn't have have to involve Gender Transformation.

I see it as the death of identity; a destruction of self for perversion.

Yeah... that's like the point.

Having a fetish doesn't mean being a pedo, anon.

That's the point. It's snuff for cowards.

I hate the way the trans community keeps co-opting shit they have no actual relation to.

Cis and straight person here who is huge into AnthroTF and TG fetish (forced one, to be precise)

You are a moron. It is a fact that trans people provide a huge contribution to the TG/TG community.
They are not "co-opting" anything, they are one of the main providers. And of fucking course such fetish will have an appeal to them. Like, it obviously scratch a spot for them. This fetish doesn't have to be a metaphor for transitioning for everyone, but there is nothing wrong if there are trans people who perceive it that way and draw TG fetish with this intent.

Like, seriously, if you are into TG/TF, your brain has picked the worse fetish to be transphobic about it. Trans people are basically unavoidable in that community and you'll be better stopping being a bigot so you can enjoy their many contribution.

The author?

Also

That has nothing to do with anything, just taking the chance to save that.

1. I am a guy.
2. I've got Asperger's, a weaker sense of self, unfortunately, comes pre-installed.
3. By extension, I see the world through a more literal and objective lens; the concept in question and its real-life counterpart SPIT in that lens.

Not the anon you were replying to, but in OP's case, there is no identity death. Finn's reproductive and specific sexual organs are altered apparently against his will), but his mind still seems to be the same and he still seem to identify as a man, so there is no identity death, only the body horror of experiencing a body that isn't truly his.

I have Asperguer and learned to use logic to understand something as basic and simple as defining the self; having an identity, and even respecting other people interests and looking away from things that don't affect me or anybody but the person enjoying them. Specially I could understand, by logic, how jumping to conclusions about people due to their interests or claiming generalists assumptions of other people is the definition of illogical.

Am I to accept that metal issues such as our are a good excuse to marginalize us because some people with issues to relate to other resort to violence or that many famously evil people had such issues?

Being disadvantaged on a field doesn't excuse being an idiot. There are people with Down Syndrome that got a Phd; you can use your head to process the diference between being attacked and a fetish even if you lack an instinctual understanding of societal norms, and in fact could be better at it. Further, while fairly controversial as some people with a disability or not prefer to look the other way of basic human necessities, it is not that hard to understand from a merely logical point of view.

That's still fucked.

Lol, provide your real address or accept your identity is tbat of acoward who knows they are one good dicking away from being forcibly transed.

Don't worry OP third time's the charm.

Oh yes, it is.

Who is the guy supposed to be, though?

A fire Princess that PB turned male because they wanted some hardcore hate-fuck session?

This is fucking terrifying.

NOOO I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE A PEACEFUL AND NATURAL LIFE AS A SIMPLE BEING INCAPABLE OF EXISTENTIAL DREAD! I WANT TO LIVE IN MY POST-INDUSTRIAL NIGHTMARE WORLD AND BE STRESSED AND MISERABLE AND DO TAXES

We've all let Ted Kaczynski down.

Honestly this is better than third worlders arguing about weather the obviously not AI image is AI.

Who wouldn't want to fuck that pink ass?

Ice King

Nigger shes literally dead, the person she used to be is gone with her mind erased and her new body will die in just few years and get buried in the backyard, thats beyond fucked up.

Here's the thing, I ain't you, I'm still struggling with this at 25. I don't have your support system. I'm not "marginalizing" myself; I am recognizing flaws I gotta work around. I'm still working on speaking up for myself. I'm a work in progress.

I agree with you. My only problem is when they treat forced TG and people into it as a fetish as victimizing them. That's a minority though, but it's a real buzzkill whenever it happens.

I see it as the death of identity; a destruction of self for perversion.

It's not the destruction of self for pleasure it's the utter destruction and degradation of another person for one's pleasure which is way worse. God I hate sadists so fucking much

Do you think that stuff coming from/beimg consumed by trans women makes it harder to beat the AGP allegations, though?

Ask Gear yourself
x.com/GearTheFae/status/1905568058569072910

My only problem is when they treat forced TG and people into it as a fetish as victimizing them

In my almost 20 years of being into forced TG fetish, I have never once encountered a trans person complaining about that kind of stuff.

Hell, I have seen many indulge in it from time to time.

Cis

I you use thatwor you are a huge faggot whose opinion should be discarded.

They are not "co-opting" anything, they are one of the main providers.

They do the worst tho. But isn't it funny that trans people flock to a fetish, where they masturbate about transforming themselves or other into women? Hmmm I wonder what this can say about them...

Like, seriously, if you are into TG/TF, your brain has picked the worse fetish to be transphobic about it.

I think its the opposite.

It proves, it straight up shows that for the most this is just people who have a fetish. All the transhit is just an egocentric attempt to make everyone join in your fetish.

better stopping being a bigot

Kill yourself.

Girl, you are 25 and still struggling with declaring your masculinity? Go take your princess pills.

In my almost 20 years of being into forced TG fetish, I have never once encountered

I have seem plenty od those, oldtroon.

Naah, quite the opposite, actually. I am cis and I am very much into that fetish and it has never made me question my own gender identity.

So no, I don't consider trans people as being "confused by their own fetish", seeing it never got me confused into cutting my own dick.

It's the other way around, IMO: being trans can lead to developing a TG fetish, but having TG fetish doesn't lead to "becoming trans". From what I understand, a person has always been trans, they don't "become" one.

I'd be curious to see an example of it.

oldtroon

You are still talking to

Tranny

So no, I don't consider trans people as being "confused by their own fetish", seeing it never got me confused into cutting my own dick.

Are you autistic? You find the concept of other more influenciable people reaching different conclusions impossible?

being trans can lead to developing a TG fetish

I think this is very unlikey. For one, REAL women don't masturbate to the idea of "being" women.

He's built for the BVLL

You talk like an old troon. Troon.
Literally being a faggot pushing 40s, judgng by your "20 years into this fetish" comment whiteknighting troons.

I should have made it clear, but if it wasn't, I'm and different than the other guy, I can't provide an examples though, because it was mostly people complaining on forums and it isn't like I save that sort of thing.

Horny bastards. Who may or may not be repressed gays. Though who am I to judge at the end of the day.

What's weird is that they don't flock to the canon r63 counterpart of Finn.

Because Fionna is a girl, where for a lot of people the change, uncomfortableness and embarrassment is a big draw.

I you use thatwor you are a huge faggot whose opinion should be discarded.

So all biologists's opinions should be discarded, got it.

They do the worst tho.

May I direct you toward theTransformistress? One of the most talented TG artist. responsible for many of the arts for the Mice Tea CYOA game.

It proves, it straight up shows that for the most this is just people who have a fetish.

The opposite actually, it prove that the fetish doesn't "turn" cis people into trans see >Kill yourself
Enjoy encountering the work of trans people every time you look into that fetish.

I've seem a group of faggot trannies doing a list of "diplomatic stuff that you shouldn't put into tg fetish" and spread around creators on discord.

It included things like "no unwilling transformation", "no loss of status", "no using it as punishment", basically the only shit they accept as non problematic was "willing transformation, or the character deep down was into it, and its all troon allegory".

Nothing is less sexy than real life issues. Whenever I run into stories or games where the person was secretly trans all along and they just didn't know it, I immediately lose interest.

You find the concept of other more influenciable people reaching different conclusions impossible?

You can not be influenced into cutting your own dick by just looking at images or reading fetish stories, anon. There is no precedent to something like this and is the same kind of "logic" that some moron use to argue that "video games make people violent".

For one, REAL women don't masturbate to the idea of "being" women.

I have seen women being turned on by the idea of becoming more "female presenting". There are actually women who are into the bimbofication fetish, for example.

Yeah, common theme amongst most of it.

So all biologists's opinions

This is not a matter of biology, deciding to make being "normal" a different category is an ideological framework.

May I direct you toward theTransformistress?

Is this bait? While skillfull, that guy is unnable to write anything other than grooming fetish where the targets secretly wanted it.

The opposite actually

That must make sense if you are an imbecile.

it prove that the fetish doesn't "turn" cis people into trans

The fact that you and me are not retarded enough to fall for it doesn't prove that there aren't people who are more retarded and all for it. See how aspengers and autism is several times more prevalent among trannies.

And remmeber, this is all because you are ignoring the simple key factor that suddenly all these trannies masturbate to this.

To not mention that it breed the people that go around saying "you don't need dysphoria to be trans".

I like Fionna, but I see her as a separate character from Finn, specially now, her character has changed a lot.

Enjoy theTransformistress while you can, that faggot legit wants to cut his dick off. His sex drive will be nuked when that happens as one of the most common side effects, and he will likely stop drawing the fetish due to it.

I am still cis and straight, though.

Okay.

I am specifically into TF fetsih, so I may have never intersected with that part of the community. That being said, I mostly lurk on Deviantart and Furaffinitty, which is of an older generation.

I should point out, though, that your screencap (from what I am seeing isn't actually expressing that people shouldn't do forced TG, rather that they are personally not into it and won't include that sort of content in their work, which, you know is perfectly fair. It's the right of everyone to no like stuff.

3. By extension, I see the world through a more literal and objective lens; the concept in question and its real-life counterpart SPIT in that lens.

how does it do that?

Here is the thing. That's a stupid ass response to being told you are being stupid by justified yourself with your issues as to why you can't understand something and decide that is somebody else's problem.

Either you get that you are yourself and don't need to relate to others' points of view, or you try to get other people to relate to you and your point of view, even when they are not related to the issue, but both things are mutually exclusive.

So I am calling you stupid and saying that claiming logical thinking in this is just a delusion.

You can not be influenced into cutting your own dick

Bro, people going to extremes because their fetish is legit common. There are group of cannibal people out there with canibal fetishes, there are subcultures of body modification, and this is before the identity crap gets throw in, and politiczed. Now you have groups saying "whoooa beeing trans is so good and the answer to your issues" see >There is no precedent to something like this
There are plenty to be honest.

that some moron use to argue that "video games make people violent".

There are no political groups pushing the idea that you "should indeed treat real life as a videogame, and you will probably kill yourself if everyone doesn't go along".

Read pic related.

I have seen women being turned on by the idea of becoming more "female presenting"

Fake, and stupid even if true - they are not doing it picturing themselves as women, but picturing themselves as more attractive while being women themselves. The only real equivalent that could exist is a woman getting turned on by picturing herseldf as a man. Being drunk off of a fetish does not preclude the need to exist as a human among other humans.

Also its pretty funny, "ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE THAT THESE MEN MASTURBATE AT TROONING, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BEING A FETISH THING, OH NO, ITS JUST A FEMALE THING THAT THEY JUST SO HAPPEN TO HAVE"

This is probably the faggot that keep spamming these threads.

You are probably going to tarnish the image of gearfae and tansformistress with your faggotory and white knighting.

Fake, and stupid even if true - they are not doing it picturing themselves as women, but picturing themselves as more attractive while being women themselves. The only real equivalent that could exist is a woman getting turned on by picturing herseldf as a man.

This has always felt like a cope to me. It feels good being attractive. Of course this is going to be tied into gender identity because it sets the standard by which you judge yourself. It's like saying a gym bro admiring his muscles in the mirror is being turned on by being a man.

deciding to make being "normal" a different category is an ideological framework.

Seeing that most people use the word "normal" as an ideological framework in the first place you do'nt get to complain about that.

unnable to write anything other than grooming fetish

That's not what grooming is.

That must make sense if you are an imbecile.

the imbecile is the one who is into TG fetish yet think a fetish can "turn you trans" and complain that trans people participate in that community.

doesn't prove that there aren't people who are more retarded and all for it.

You can't even prove it happened once. You are claiming that just the simple exposure to TG fetish images and stories can mistakenly "turn" you trans. You have to prove that it can happen in the first place if you want to make an actual point.

His sex drive will be nuked

I have been into that fetish long enough to know that this is in no way systematic or even a significant occurrence. Halcy0n, for example transitioned years ago and is still as horny as before.

Well, yeah. She *is* a separate character. Even when she was just Ice King's fanfic character. At least she has something now.

You just don’t like it because it ruined your self inserting.

Okay, I admit that calling my line of thought logical. It's rigid thinking laced with anxiety. I have a hard time thinking outside my box. Empathy and understanding are tricky fucking concepts. I'm sorry.

Bro, people going to extremes because their fetish is legit common

It actually isn't. Self harm is usually the result of deeper psychological factors and/or exterior abuse that would have still happened, regardless of consensual exposure to fetish material.

You have absolutely no studies proving in any way athat fetish material themselves can lead to self-arm.

Now you have groups saying "whoooa beeing trans is so good and the answer to your issues" see

See I have been specifically into forced transformation for decade now, I have never encountered that kind of complain. this is at most insignificant and most trans people have zero issue with it.

There are plenty to be honest.

Not a single case has ever been shown.

There are no political groups pushing the idea that you "should indeed treat real life as a videogame, and you will probably kill yourself if everyone doesn't go along".

Political figure where blaming the Colombine massacre on video games.

Read pic related.

Nothing in it indicate that this person being trans was due to TG fetish material.

they are not doing it picturing themselves as women, but picturing themselves as more attractive while being women themselves

which prove my point. Women can be turned on by the idea of being even more "women presenting".

ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE THAT THESE MEN MASTURBATE AT TROONING, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BEING A FETISH THING, OH NO

Seeing that I am cis myself, yes.

And also, it actually make sense that someone internalising being trans will develop a fetish about it.

It's not having a fetish that make you trans, but being trans can lead you to having a TG fetish.

aspergers comes with a weaker sense of self

What?

Ok, I forgive you, I am sorry if I insulted you and I hope you have a good life.

Like, really? How many people you think masturbate at the idea of them being "attractive"?

More than you think? Also, have you never heard of autophilia?

The avarage gym bro

We are talking about specific fetish, not the average guy.

That's why it's hot

The avarage gym bro is not - literally - masturbating about building muscle. This is the comparision you are making, and saying that it isn't a fetish.

i thought you lost your train of thought in this argument.

Your argument here is that being trans is a fetish. For this you tried to argue that if being trans wasn't a fetish, then there would be women fetishising about being women.

It make very little sense in the first place, but even so, that actually exist and they don't need to exist in big number for your point to still be invalidated.

Seeing that most people use the word "normal" as an ideological framework

You are the one wanting to change things up.

That's not what grooming is.

Get wit hthe time gramps. We all know that there are plenty of groomers among trannies that get turned on by the idea of makign others trans, hell screenshot of such kind of person was posted here.

the imbecile is the one who is into TG fetish yet think a fetish can "turn you trans"

No, I think many socially awkward autists and mentally ill people flock to fetish communities, and these are easy to fall prey on that sort of thing. Its also the SAME community that came up with the idea that you don't need dysphoria to be trans, and I have seem plenty of these niggers taking hormones while claiming to never had dysphoria.

You can't even prove it happened once.

How "proof" would look like to you? I need a definitive answer.

You are claiming that just the simple exposure to TG fetish images and stories can mistakenly "turn" you trans.

I'm not, imbecile. Because for one, not everyone falls victim of that, and this also was less common in older communities. There is more to the enviroment than just that. I think many people can get gaslighted into thining that they are trans tho.

Aren't there cisgender women who are into boys being genderbent into girls?

I mean, I am a guy, but I am into that kind of scenario, so it's probably the case for women too.

If there are, they're rarer than your standard AGP/genderbender fetishist.

You are the one wanting to change things up.

What is "normal" has, throughout time always been challenged and changed. 200 years ago, it was normal to won slaves.

We all know that there are plenty of groomers among trannies that get turned on by the idea of makign others trans

We actually don't know that. You believing made up things doesn't make it a fact.

How "proof" would look like to you? I need a definitive answer.

A peer reviewed study establishing that an adult being consensual exposed to fetish material can lead to self-harm.

Because for one, not everyone falls victim of that

You have first to establish anyone fall victim to such thing in the first place.

This is the gist of several hentai stories.

Self harm is usually the result of deeper psychological factors and/or exterior abuse that would have still happened

Guess what? Amost all trannies are mentally ill apart from just being trannies.

Thousands of young people have been turned into lifelong medical patients with mutilated bodies. Many thousands of women and girls have been subjected to indignities and worse injustices due to Gender Ideology.

You have absolutely no studies proving in any way athat fetish material themselves can lead to self-arm.

There is literally a fetish abotu that:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autosadism

I have never encountered that kind of complain.

My God Old Troon, you are so stupid. You keep going "I have never seem it, so its not true" as your argument, when I have posted actual troons talking about hemselves in screenshot.

Political figure where blaming the Colombine massacre on video games.

What this has to do with what I said? My point is that unlike troons, there aren't people who political view is to turn the world into a videogame.

Nothing in it indicate that this person being trans was due to

I never said that having this fetish makes you trans, retard. I said that having this fetish while claiming to be trans, shows that you are just a fetishist larping.

Women can be turned on by the idea of being even more "women presenting".

How that ties to men masturbating at the idea of magically turning into women?

Seeing that I

I already explained why this is a dumb response. You are not everyone.

It's not having a fetish that make you trans

Nobody said this, dumbass.

but being trans can lead you to having a TG fetish.

Total nonsense.

Also, have you never heard of autophilia?

Sooooo a FETISH?
Have you heard of autogenophilia?

Nah it's cool, I'm just a guy working on his stuff like everybody else.

For this you tried to argue that if being trans wasn't a fetish, then there would be women fetishising about being women.

Nah, my point is that women don't really masturbate at the idea of being women, they simply are. There is no actual valid paralel with men masturbating at the idea of being women.

but even so, that actually exist

Prove that women masturbate at the concept of simply being women.

they don't need to exist in big number for your point to still be invalidated.

Even if that was the case, the fact that an absurd number of trannies would just "happen" to have a rare weird kinkd about picturing themselves as women is more than enough evidence that this is a fetish thing.

You are quite literally in full cope.

There is literally a fetish abotu that:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autosadism

What about fetishes that aren't autosadism?

My God Old Troon, you are so stupid. You keep going "I have never seem it, so its not true" as your argument, when I have posted actual troons talking about hemselves in screenshot.

Random screenshots without context are cherrypicking.

I have been into that fetish long enough to know that this is in no way systematic or even a significant occurrence. Halcy0n, for example transitioned years ago and is still as horny as before.

If you’re going to insist it’s ok for children to get sex changes, at least be honest about the possible future they face. Not only does this persons “neo vagina” constantly smell like a colon (because that’s what it’s made out of), they’ve lost all sexual function.

Guess what? Amost all trannies are mentally ill apart from just being trannies.

Most of the time due to rejection by family and/or harassment.
Amon Trans people who are accepted there are far less record of mental health issues.

There is literally a fetish about that:

Sadomasochism is well known, anon. That the body can derive pleasure from pain is well documented and SM, when done with self control, doesn't actually lead to actual self-harm, i.e. permanent damage, only pain.

You still have jack shit about fetish turning someone trans.

My God Old Troon, you are so stupid. You keep going "I have never seem it, so its not true"

The fact that many well known tg artists frequently make that kind of material seen by a large portion of the TG fetish community and yet never received that kind of complain is actually a significant sample to draw a reliable conclusion.

I couldn't even be provided with even one example.

My point is that unlike troons, there aren't people who political view is to turn the world into a videogame.

That was never my argument to begin with. How old are you to not even understand what the video game-scare was?

I said that having this fetish while claiming to be trans, shows that you are just a fetishist larping.

I am claiming to be cis, though. and no having a fetish doesn't invalidate being trans. There is no solid evidence to back that up.

How that ties to men masturbating at the idea of magically turning into women?

I dunno, you tell me, you are the one who brought that up.

I already explained why this is a dumb response

And I explained why your explanation doesn't hold.

Total nonsense.

You don't think that being in denial of something that is constantly nagging at your mind can't lead to developing a fetish?

What is "normal" has, throughout time always been challenged and changed.

The definitions of the words can be used to make a distinction between the two but gender has been altered to mean sex because of academics working in bad faith (much like John Money).

You have to accept that they hold several distinctly contradictory beliefs (I am a female as I identify as one), (I need a bazillion surgeries because my body is not female), (Male puberty is irreversible so transition has to start early/before it; also I can change my body after puberty) and (I am not mentally ill, despite the fundamental idea of transition being a treatment for the mental illness gender identity disorder; this also being the reason any protections exist for it and insurance is forced to cover it)

We actually don't know that.

What would be an acceptable "proof" for you? People admiting themselves? I can show them, this dude is getting off to the idea of doing it with others but there are several cases of things like this happening on discord. People sayign that they were victims of such? I can show them too here So what "proof" looks like to you?

You have first to establish anyone fall victim to such thing in the first place.

Where? That was never my point, and if you believed that, you are mistaken. So be glad that without your error you found a thing that we agree.

And? The argument is about what anon there said >>being trans can lead to developing a TG fetish

I think this is very unlikey. For one, REAL women don't masturbate to the idea of "being" women.

You are not making a point.

What about fetishes that aren't autosadism?

What about them?
Funny enough, that sort of thing has a major overlap with tranny communities, most sissy stories feature quite a lot of that, but thats besides the point, I honestly don't get your "What about fetishes that aren't autosadism" bit.

Nah, my point is that women don't really masturbate at the idea of being women

Again, some do.

There is no actual valid paralel with men masturbating at the idea of being women.

Seeing that transwomen are women, indeed, there isn't.

Prove that women masturbate at the concept of simply being women.

Ever heard of autophilia?

Even if that was the case, the fact that an absurd number of trannies would just "happen" to have a rare weird kinkd about picturing themselves as women is more than enough evidence that this is a fetish thing

We don't know the actual proportion of trans people actually having a TG fetish. also, TG fetish is actually rather run of the mill. Heck, it's actually called rule 63 because it is so wie spread in the first place.

And again, fetish developing from something you are internalising is rather common.

you’re going to insist it’s ok for children to get sex changes

Define "children". What ae range are we talking about?

they said they wanted peer reviewed studies as a proof.

Can we go back to blatant coomshit/waifufagging now?

Prove that women masturbate at the concept of simply being women.

I am not gay, but I would not be surprised if I learned that some gay men or gay women who find themselves to be attractive would actually masturbate to themselves and be attracted to their own bodies.

>being trans can lead to developing a TG fetish

Its more that you have a tg fetish, and some people gaslight you that you are trans.

There are large quantities of studies showing that exposure to suicide in media leads to increase in suicide.

Killing oneself is much more drastic than simply self harm. If simply watching suicide in media increases suidice, I don't see why you couldn't be groomed into trooning.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207262/#:~:text=Research into the impact of,effect (Stack, 2003).

This said, I don't want you to believe

This lengthy, offtopic garbage

What the fuck is wrong with you people? This is Anon Babble, not Anon Babble.

Its more that you have a tg fetish, and some people gaslight you that you are trans.

There is no indication that such thing is possible to begin with.

h.And the trannies somehow are massively overrepresented in that category?

Not really.

And in your opinion its not a fetish at all?

Having a fetish about TG transfomation is a thing that exist (I have it), that doesn't mean trans don't exist either. They exist.

And a path of self-discovery can effectively lead to developing a fetish.

What is a woman then?

See pic.

So as I said, its a fetish?

Thanks.

Thanks for what? You got nothing, there.
That a fetish exist doesn't mean being trans isn't real anon. You are not good at logic.

Big enough to be actually quite well know and remarkable on the trans community, and some of the oldest organizations made by trannies to advocate for them decades ago were talking about it.

That still doesn't invalidate that being trans is real, anon.

and many rule 63 can be just fanart and reimagining characters without any fetishistic elements attached.

This can also be part of a TG fetish, anon.

The opposite actually. Gender and sex have distinct meanings.

The actual history is that they were synonimous until literal groomers pushed the idea that they should mean diferent things.

It is effectively superstition, you may as well be talking about souls or any other new age bullshit. Can you test for gender? No. Only sex has a basis and can be easily tested for in the real world (sex organs, brain chemistry). "let them be the gender they are" is a disingenuous motte and baily argument because they are not women, not in any scientific sense.

Being trans is no longer recognised as a mental illness

This is due to lobbying tho, not any real good argument.

There are zero contradictions.

They love repeating that gender =/= sex, only to treat gender as if it IS sex by letting men invade women's SEX-BASED spaces.

Peer reviewed study.

Of what exactly? Because I keep saying that the fetish itself is not the cause to make someone troon themselves, but you see mto not get that, so I need a clear request.

You point wasn't "some can fall victim to it"?

My point is that the fetish itself doesn't do it. My point is that trannies are fetishists.

There are large quantities of studies showing that exposure to suicide in media leads to increase in suicide.

consensual exposure to fetish materials isn't the same as being exposed to suicide, anon.

Ana Valens kinda sounds based ngl.

And the angle at least makes her look fuckable.

Being in denial of your own nature can also be bad for your mental health.

So they are mentally ill before, during and after having their hormones messed up with and their body parts chopped...

You build an entire framework to justify why mentally ill people in ambients full of weird groomers that push them terrible ideas is somehow the best path.

Again, in an environment where the existence of

Actually, studies show that even in such enviroments they more likely remain "mentally ill", while kids that are not incentivized to it almost always recover. You keep insisting that they are sad because the way people treat them and not gender dysphoria plus the post-transition pain, possible complications, unbalanced bodily functions, medication that might have adverse effects on mental health, and generally permanently medicalised life for the foreseeable future?

not the exposure to fetish material itself causing to willingly do self-harm.

How the person would do such things that cause self-harm without being exposed to it? How would they even know it exists as an option?

Grooming is considered unacceptable in the trans community

You niggas can't even admit it happens, ven with detransitioners claiming it does.

to a point that them never having have to deal with that kind of complain

Nigga, I write this sort of thing and every week I deal with people complainign about it. Hell, on the Anon Babble thread you will often find people complaining about it.

There is no actual know case of this to begin with

What would you say if I posted here people literally claiming "I was groomed by trannies"? I want to knw the answer before I lose my time screenshoting.

That has never been my argument.

Alright, so do you agree with me that its highly suspicious that trannies have the fetish of looking like women?

consensual exposure to fetish materials isn't the same as being exposed to suicide, anon.

Anon, my point was never that the exposure to the fetish made someone trans.

The suicide bit is in response to "nobody would never be gaslighted into causing self harm" which is stupid, as we can see people will literally kill themselves because they watched 13 Reasons Why.

My point is that trannies are just men too carried away by their fetish (or women in the case of female who tranned)

Your loss pussy

Namefag wants to fuck the ugliest looking incel guy. Not surprised.

Ok, so say we did somehow get a proper genderbender episode for AT in another universe where the currently associated baggage wasn't a factor.
How would you summarise its plot and resolution to said plot?
Hard mode: Use both hands to type your response.

Trannies latch onto TF despite it usually being a magical complete transformation unlike their genital mutilation.

I hate it.

Liking women is gay

???

Troons and faggots.

projecting hard

basically this pic

Was looking at some clips of the first Fionna episode cause I wanted some good screen shots of Fiona and man it really does suck that we don't haven't had any proper western "Shojo" stuff in a while. Like the last actual proper series I'd consider close to that with any teeth is probably Star Vs which is kinda sad.

Option A

Finn needs to sneak into some "female only area" to get an item for a quest. Can't go into the city because there's a spell over the town that makes it so no boys are allowed. Marcy and PB are already banned from the town so Finn gets artifact from Marcy that turns him into a girl. One adventure scene later, Finn gets the object and leaves. Episode ends with a joke about how the artifact is cursed and Finn can't take it off.

Option B

Finn is turned into a girl by a female wizard and is trying to find her to turn her back. Finn now faces a comedy of errors as him being a girl continues to throw up road blocks like his passport having an "m" over a "f" causing him to get detained.

After ruining his relationship with Flame Princess, Finn takes a potion to temporarily turn into a girl in the hopes of getting some perspective. Turns out the time limit was how long until it becomes permanent and he needs to get something to turn back.

how difficult is it to understand the connection between changing your body and mind in a fantastical dream vs. taking that dream and applying the closest real world solution to it? you may dislike trannies, which is ultimately your choice, but the overlap is pretty obvious and reasonable.

would kidnap and rape.

"Not mathematical, man..."

Ice King...

the closest real world solution to it

Which is not the same thing in ways that some people care about.

Flame King wears picrel and hilarity ensues

shartyfag

on Anon Babble

200 years ago, it was normal to won slaves.

There are several times as many slaves in the world today than there were 200 years ago.

It's amazing how this shit always happens. At least it's not the AI arguments that the previous thread was.
Like I just wanted to fetish post.

why are you showing me the wooden kingdom i am so confused please explain i am a woman (in my opinion, as i can simply say so and have it be the complete and utter truth)

A lot of this site now is people getting irrationally mad at whatever the trending thing to hate is, and its been like that for decades, but for the past five or so years its been an extreme focus on trannies.
Gotta wonder what we'll shift to next. I feel like it'll be incest or Asians, just a gut feeling right now.

Would PB turning Finn into a girl and coercing him into a threesome with her and a guy be in characer for her?

For science? Yes.

There's something so fundamentally hot about a guy getting gender-bent by a girl. It's an act of true dominance where the girl completely shatters his life while keeping what she likes.
Unlike something like NTR, which is a display of dominance that severs the bond the individuals had together, gender-bending doesn't have to. The woman in the dynamic can still maintain aspects of the former relationship that she liked and supplant what she sees as the problem with their new rapport. She still “cares” about him and wants to maintain the thing they have between them, but she’s made the decision that, as it is right now, it’s not “right” and that something needs to change.
It's a level of sociopathy that I find so very enticing, with the girl disregarding the feelings of the man and deciding that it would just be better for her if the "man" was her “girl friend” instead of her “boy friend.” The ultimate emasculation, a statement that his existence as a man wasn't worth anything and it would be better if he was just not. The ultimate humiliation with the ultimate display of dominance, completely rewriting his life and making something better, not for him, but for her

He's trying to argue transsexuals are wrong by drawing an analogy between them and their efforts to look and feel like women and cargo cults where indigenous people create nonfunctional replicas of Western colonist technology and treat it like it's magic while not understanding the real technology has physical cause and effect reasons for producing the seemingly magic benefits it's used for.
Doesn't make much sense as an argument since transsexuals generally understand what they're doing isn't a way to gain the capacity to get pregnant or give birth and are instead doing it because they want to look and feel more like their bodies are female. In that case, looking like something else is the actual goal rather than a mistaken attempt at gaining some other kind of functionality.
None of that has much to do with cartoons though. I guess that one episode of Adventure Time with Princess Cookie was that show's tranny episode.

It depends on the writer.
Like if Rebecca Sugar was writing? Yes, yes she would.
If someone who didn't see PB as fundamentally evil, a borderline sociopath and wanted to make he look like a bitch anytime she wrote her? Probably not.

This goes beyond simple transformation, she literally experienced death

And finncels

Jesus christ anon. Just say you find that shit hot and move on.

Shut the fuck up

Seething finncel

I always found scenarios like in that OP hot in a masochistic way because you not only lose your male status but also have the existential demotion rubbed in your face by your gf immediately introducing another guy who hasn't lost his manhood and who now has that advantage over you. Not only can't you compete with him but your gf doesn't even see you as part of that entire league of men in general. You're just another girl like her now and have to help her service an actual man who's taken your place while you're miserable about it and hate him for having a dick. Basically it's like how a lot of ftms talk about dysphoria over being dickless but fetishized by regular men fantasizing over being in that kind of situation ftms experience in reality.

Kys tranny

fucking men in wigs is heterosexual

???

I like writing paragraphs. It's fun and hit mfs with a cognitohazard.

Remind me to never ask for your literature, lol.

The analogy was directed at the difference between "gender bender" fetishism and real-world transsexuality. The target of the fetish is an actual change of sex, not a cosmetic operation. Think of the difference between Ranma and Bridget.

Jake is 1/2 dog, 1/2 alien. Lady Rainicorn is all rainicorn. Their children are 1/2 rainicorn, 1/4 dog, 1/4 alien. Bronwyn's mother is a bear. Bronwyn is 1/2 bear, 1/4 rainicorn, 1/8 dog, 1/8 alien.

Getting gender bent and becoming part of the girls is very hot.

Been into this fetish longer than you have and you're full of shit. The co-opting of feitsh material to start using transition metaphors, buzzwords, fag flags, not to mention the insistence that everyone with the fetish is an "egg" are all very recent developments. Overwhelming majority of people who jack off to it and make it have never expressed any tranny ideology and openly espouse this by simply not engaging in the same sort of tranny cult behavior that newer troon artists do.