Sure, you can get an interview with Superman, Cronkite. ;)

He's breaking down because he's having a crisis of faith about being Superman, and since it's Lois asking the questions he's allowed to be vulnerable

Why is he just now coming to these conclusions? This is like first week shit, he's been Superman for at least 2 years. And as a reporter he shouldn't be losing his shit over being questioned.

Because this is the first time he's done something that had political complications, which Lex is also manipulating

And as a reporter he shouldn't be losing his shit over being questioned.

Because god forbid Clark drops the act and has moments of doubt/vulnerability

Because god forbid Clark drops the act and has moments of doubt/vulnerability

That's fine but he's lashing out over perfectly normal questions that a superhero would be asked

if i were superman i would live in the moon
i would save whoever i want wherever i want and then go back to my moon house
each year i would destroy a random city just to remind them i am outside the law

The Fortress of Solitude is already a thing

saar yes saar

Is it perfectly normal to ask someone why they would save a life when they have the ability to do so? Doctors take an oath over this and they're not questioned when a life is saved.

but Lex keeps going there

There's a indian in Gunn's movie, I wonder how that makes you retards feel lmao

Call me a snydercultist all you want but It's impossible to do the "Superman faces criticism" storyline better than how Snyder did it. Because this is the alternative: Clark throwing a temper tantrum because people ask him basic questions about his decisions.

Injustice Superman was right up until he went against Batman instead of working with him, he could have killed Joker, then had a "oh no what has I done :'(" and started a global "peacekeeping" operation with Batman's support

This is a weird edit of this. It looks completely different on the wizard cover

It's impossible to do the "Superman faces criticism" storyline better than how Snyder did it.

What, having Superman appear in court, have the judge look at Lex Luthor's piss, and then everybody dies in an explosion before Superman ever talks?

people complain that Superman is too perfect

give him struggles

people complain he isn’t perfect

Fuck you

Superman has a personality

what is this nonsense

Did they say to make his struggles stupid?

You don't think Lex also has a spaceship?

he can have a personality. He's not a blank slate for capeshit

it would be harder to find me on the moon

His personality is whining like a little kid?

I stopped a massacre with my bare hands

BUT DID YOU THINK OF THE FEDS???

I would be kind of mad too

There's a theory going around that Ultraman is actually Bizarro, and that dimensional portal we see in the new trailer leads to Bizarro World

Cubic matter, like the cubed planet that is Bizarro World

Cubic matter is seen spilling into Metropolis, possibly Lex miscalculating and the two worlds colliding

Ultraman being masked is to hide the Superman likeness

Bizarro's DNA is what grants Lex access to The Fortress of Solitude

Happy resolution to Bizarro could be Krypto playing with him on another planet instead of just killing him off

"B-but he's not perfect! He's not an icon or Jesus figure, he's flawed like you and me!"

"NOOOOOO WHY IS HE FLAWED!"

Another anon said it but this is the exact comic movie you fags asked for twelve years ago and now even less faggots here actually read comics. None of those are consistent either, portrayals vary.
You are 200% one of those guys who were reeing "HE'S NOT EMO THE MOVIE WILL BE HOPEFUL DON'T JUDGE IT BASED ON A TRAILER" when Man of Steel came out lol

Yes but Superman is being asked about accountability and the people in this DC universe don' tfully know how powerful Superman is and if he is fully capable of saving everybody's life at a moment's notice. What if he saved all of one sides lives but accidentally doesn't save even one life on the other? Now everybody will think Superman only likes country A more than country B. Now consider Superman did this without consulting others who may have a right to know how justice and safety is being doled out. Yeah countries and governments are corrupt but going over their heads will lead to more chaos and confusion. That's the balance heroes have to strike. Keep everybody calm while also doing the right thing. JLU did this right a decade and a half ago with the whole Justice Lords, Lex getting killed, and Amanda Waller storyline. DC heroes may have godlike power but they can't do shit like Superman does in this trailer. It's just like said. He's been doing this a while and this is basic critical thinking an adult has. This movie has a conflict with as much depth as a puddle.

Superman loses his temper after 15s

Oof the world is so doomed. Or maybe not given how everybody was seemly able to curbstomp him.

See I would be fine with him disagreeing with Lois if he didn't lose his cool over simple questions. "People were going to die" should have been subtle and stated matter of fact instead of him screaming at the top of his lungs

Crybabyman

That was kino tho, this is more like Zoomerman

His answers aren't even necessarily bad, but they frame it like he's having a meltdown like he's never thought about any of the things he's ever done. I don't know why people are praising this bullshit.

Doubt and vulnerability are one thing. Jumping to his feet and screaming borderline incoherently because she's asking him basic questions is fucking retarded and it's bad writing made worse by bad directing. Stop pretending you're doing big brain analysis when you're missing the forest for the trees.

JLU Supes get's a lot of flak (unfairly imo) for how pissed he gets in all of those arcs. And he and the JL still interceded in other countries' affairs far more than would be accepted in any political landscape. There's absolutely no government on the planet that would have been fine with them building their giant death beam that was nigh as destructive as Vandal Savage's railgun that almost leveled Paris. Especially since in the real world, space-based weapons are illegal.

it's probably the editing
apparently the scene lasts over ten minutes which is enough time for Lois to pick him apart, real world politicians have gone to pieces in less time

Especially since in the real world, space-based weapons are illegal.

You just made that shit up

So it’s okay to topple the US government because you think that would save lives?

Not that anon but look up the Outer Space Treaty. I remembered it was a thing and how Reagan's Star Wars stuff somewhat violated it.
Sorry it's been a while since I watched it. Why did they decide to keep that weapon? Seems overkill. Do they get rid of it? They (the heavyhitters like WW and Supes, etc.) already have superpowers that only really nukes could get past. If there isn't a good story reason then I guess a more nuanced show like JLU has problems with writing this conflict. I mean does the league feel like they need to nuke a country or a secret base themselves? They could just fly down there and surgically strike their enemy. But yeah gov's wouldn't like that and I still think JLU handled this better than this movie.

their justification was that the weapon could have stopped the Thanagarian invasion (which, lol as if)
the real reason was so that Lex could hack it and blow up Chicago and make the League look bad
I love that show but Supes gets baited by Lex into leveling a whole city, not to mention that one alt universe Superman that lets Lex manipulate him into taking over the whole planet (or maybe just Metropolis, idk) after Lois dies
If the worst Lex can get this Superman to do is intercede in a war, then this Superman kind of has JLU Superman beat in terms of reasonableness

if you hear someone who needs help on the otherside of the planet, why shouldnt you help them?

it sounds 100% reasonable to get pissy at being unable to remove someone in india from drowning to death in a river boat accident because the US government is telling you it might send a wrong message to pakistan

First of all, that was a congressional hearing, not any type of a court. Secondly, the jar was a clever callback to senator Finch and Lex’s previous conversation and also a personal petty fuck you message to her just before she’s going to die to make sure she knows who’s behind it. Superman doesn’t get to make a defence before the explosion because it doesn’t matter what he says. The movie isn’t about “but what about MY side?!?”, it’s about how a being like Superman cannot be apolitical in the real world. He cannot live in a bubble where all of his actions aren’t scrutinised and interpreted and politicised. His sheer existence alone makes him a divisive figure when he has so much power and influence by simply existing as a superhuman being who can basically do whatever he wants. He automatically makes some people sacred and suspicious because such power corrupts. People also live a in post-factual world where they make up their minds and ignore the truth so a speech isn’t going to change anything. Superman trying to defend himself is irrelevant. This isn’t West Wing. That is why a major point of the movie is Clark having to learn that he can’t let public discourse and debate about him affect what he is doing and if he wishes to keep being a hero. You can’t second guess everything and worry how people will react, he has to ignore what people may think and just do things despite how his actions can be misconstrued or manipulated because a hero does things because it is right, not because of what is politically correct and appropriate. And if he fucks up because something he does while saving people ends up having unexpected negative consequences then that’s his burden to carry.

I AM A SURGEON

How is his struggle stupid?

the jar was a clever callback

clever

damn, keep telling yourself that

NOOOOOO WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME MODERATELY CHALLENGING QUESTIONS AAAAAAAAAAAAA *lasers her face off*

This isn't The Boys.

him trying to make a speech then having it soundbyted-out-of-context would have made that point better
in general if you want to show the audience that the hero will lose no matter what they do, the hero actually has to try something first

Should you help one person if that ends up killing ten, hundred, a thousand people as a direct result of your actions?

but should you allow petty squabbles between nations prevent people from dying?
crossing a border is a lesser harm than someone dying
superman has the power to zip across the world and pluck someone in canada from being crushed by a tree, but you expect him not to just because he violated some canadian no-fly act?

If Pakistan interprets you flying into their air space and unilaterally doing things there against the wishes of their sovereign state as an act of aggression against them and associates it with United States foreign policy and then Pakistan respond with a move against the US, why should Superman get a free pass for causing an international crisis?

When you save someone from danger, that is a net good. When you save someone from danger in the name of a political ideal, you get what is coming to you. If someone feeds hobos with a soup kitchen he himself runs and then turns to a crowd and says "I do this in the name of fascism" people are not going to ignore the politics just because he feeds homeless people.

other countries just constantly squabbling and arguing about abstract things like air space laws that are all apparently more important than something as basic as stopping someone from being crushed by a building

No it wouldn’t. It’s more effective that he can’t even say his piece before he something happens and he then immediately gets blamed for it. The entire point is about learning the lesson that you can’t always control everything. It isn’t about being unable to get people to understand your perspective. Your pov is irrelevant when you’re Superman. People are going to skew and interpret your regardless of what you say.

Why doesn’t Superman just conquer the world then? The world isn’t a black or white place where you either do good things or you don’t. You can easily just get more people killed even if you think you did something good. If you go around waving your dick at the world the world will respond. It’s no different from the USA playing world cop for decades and then getting blowback in the form of terrorist attacks motivated by US foreign policy

He might as well be Homelander with the way he reacts

You have to accept that your meddling causes issues and problems and then bear the consequences of that. Crying it’s unfair doesn’t change anything. You don’t live in limbo where things you do don’t have an impact beyond your immediate good will intent.

I don't think mildly raising your voice out of frustration is a "temper tantrum"

It’s hardly raising a voice, he’s clearly getting upset at the pushback that Lois’ questioning is doing

The entire point is about learning the lesson that you can’t always control everything.

That’s par for the course for Superman, that’s why writers keep killing Pa Kent off

People are going to skew and interpret your regardless of what you say.

yeahhhhhh you kind of have to say something first before people can skew it. You can’t just spend the whole movie being mute and then go “it was inevitable that I would be misunderstood.” That’s just called being a loner weirdo. Which is lowkey an issue a lot of people have with the film

You have to accept that your meddling causes issues and problems and then bear the consequences of that

but you also have to accept that a lot of the political BS hamstringing superman is exactly that, BS
politicians who are more concerned with how their country looks like on the public stage than things like people dying

if superman had to respect their wishes at all times, in all places, and under all contexts
then he is just another puppet and political tool that is being withheld and prevented from saving people just becuase someone in a suit said so

Crying it’s unfair doesn’t change anything

one of the appeals of superman is that things dont have to be unfair
he can cut right through all that political smokescreen and help people regardless of where they might be or who they might be

You don’t live in limbo where things you do don’t have an impact beyond your immediate good will intent.

at the end of the day, it doesnt matter if it was superman or captain britian who stopped your plane from crashing
you will praise every god out there that somebody heard your cry for help

i dont think anyone would actually want captain impotent who cant save anyone except those that the president rubber stamps as worth helping because thats just another evil superman clone

Yes obviously he's getting upset that doesnt mean hes throwing a tatntrum.
Even with how it's edited its pretty clear they've been talking about this for a long time and he's getting increasingly frustrated because Lois, who is a better more savvy reporter than him, has a counterpoint for everything he says. So by the end of it he raises his voice a bit to try and get his point across. Innocent people were going to die so he saved them because that is what he believes he should do.

yeah losing a debate on the technicalities when you’re morally correct is the most infuriating shit ever
part of why everyone hates lawyers

He's a zionist in this version, which means he can't withstand any level of interrogation.

Those "rules" are basically a gentleman's agreement which we've seen don't have to be honored over this past year.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN CAVILL IS A BETTER SUPERMAN, CIVILIANS HATE ME TOO!!!

yeahhhhhh you kind of have to say something first before people can skew it.

You absolutely do not. Actions alone can and are skewed all the time. Superman is a controversial public figure, his actions would be viewed and misinterpreted all the time, especially by Lex who’s deliberately out to smear Superman.

Snyder’s Superman is a a guy who wants to just help and not get involved in politics or make it about himself. His arc in Snyder’s movies is learning that he can’t avoid being more than just a good samaritan and part of being a hero is also to live with the burden that sometimes his good deeds end up also having bad consequences he cannot predict and control. It is not some type of public forum thing to learn, it is an internal and personal struggle and people whining about it just want a cartoon boyscout and are angry that Clark actually has a complicated relationship with his heroics and has to struggle with his learning curve while he’s on the job rather than immediately being good at it the second he puts on the cape and only thing that he has to worry about is figure out a clever way to solve something that can’t just be punched out.

Of course it’s BS, it’s politics. But it’s super naive to think you don’t have to deal with that and get upset that you as a famous and powerful superhero will cause political issues. Having to struggle what is right and what you can actually do is what makes you a hero and not just a vigilante anti-hero who ignores everything except what you personally want to do.

one of the appeals of superman is that things dont have to be unfair

If you write for little kids, sure.

but wit if he saves a plane

It’s not the same as personally inserting yourself in the middle of a military conflict and that creating massive international issues.

He is a bit though. He goes from sitting relaxed to standing up and shouting at Lois without being able to articulate a response beyond IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

thats nowhere near a tantrum
he just stands up and raises his voice a bit, and yet everyone is acting like he threw something

I mean that you don’t get to complain about people taking things out of context when you never provided that context in the first place. That’s explicitly why just about every version of Superman insists on having that interview with Lois Lane.
I’m sure you’re right about the intent. I don’t disagree, nor do I think it’s a particularly hard thread to grasp. I’m just a dork who sees stories as a big blob of plot and character stuff that reveals an underlying theme, like a function that connects a bunch of data points. When you only have one or two points, you can extrapolate any number of things from those points to the point of meaninglessness. Maybe Superman is just a mute weirdo. Maybe the writers are a bunch of hacks who couldn’t come up with compelling dialogue for Superman. Maybe Superman has put no thought into how he would justify his actions. All of those things can just as easily (dare I say more easily) be extrapolated from the film. No matter what the themes actually are, when it’s easier to conflate them with overall incompetence or laziness, then that’s kind of a drag. That is the whole point of being a hack: you have these grand ideas and no idea how to deliver on them