What was your favorite title from epic comics

What was your favorite title from epic comics

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Only ones I've read all of are Dreadstar and Six From Sirius, but both are a lot of fun. Gulacy's marker-coloured art for SFS is awesome.

The translations of Moebius, obviously.

Did epic have any opportunity? Marvel didn't do too much with it. Part of the appeal of Vertigo was of how different it was from the main DC comics, with interesting, original, and mature concepts. Moore worked for Marvel in the 80s, couldn't they ask him to do something for epic? What about the other good writers Marvel had in those years? It had too much potential and overall it isn't too memorable

Some of the first comics I ever read.

It needed a Karen Berger.

Moore worked for Marvel in the 80s, couldn't they ask him to do something for epic?

They couldn't. Moore was mad at Marvel at the time. One rumor was that it was over the rights to his Doctor Who scripts and the Marvelman renaming, another rumor was that he felt slighted by Jim Shooter saying that he didn't really like Moore's Swamp Thing as much as Moore's Captain Britain

That said, he did actually write one thing for Epic, a short story with art by Rick Veitch that was in the final issue of Epic Illustrated.

The Epic anthology magazine. It's a shame us American weren't ready for a magazine like that yet.

No, the problem was that Heavy Metal magazine at the time was vastly better by comparison

80s Epic was vastly better than late-era Heavy Metal though

We need horned up dudes trying to make the next Star Wars to return to comics.

AKIRA

It's a shame us American weren't ready for a magazine like that yet.

The fuck you talking about, Epic Illustrated was basically Marvel's version of Heavy Metal and Heavy Metal was already being published in the US from 1977 onwards

Heavy Metal was still being sold at big bookstores like Barnes and Noble in the 90s and 00s

I really wish the epic release of Akira was easier to collect.

Terrible colors.

I preferred ebin comics

Yeah, I wouldn't mind regular comic-sized trades of it. And on that note, any new english language collections of Otomo's work outside of Akira would be also very welcome. Crazy how no publisher seems to be interested in them.

Moore only ever worked for Marvel UK, which was a different thing from regular Marvel.

He did do two things for regular Marvel but they were special circumstances. One was a story for the Heroes For Hope comic and the other was a text for Marvel's 9/11 Heroes special

This is the wrongest opinion ever. It might be THE best coloring of an originally B&W comic in the entire history of the medium.

Part of the appeal of Vertigo was of how different it was from the main DC comics

It was mostly just superhero shit, dude. By comparison, Epic was overwhelmingly mostly non-superhero comics with relatively few exceptions.

original concepts

It was mostly preexisting characters including several series that had already been going on for years.

mature

If you're talking about "R-rated content" then Epic had a *little* of that as well.

Best imprint in the history of comics.

That doesn't mean it doesn't look like shit.

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It looks fucking great. Dude got the Eisner for best coloring several years in a row for that.

Get your eyes checked.

Eisner

The most worthless award of all time.

Looks like you need to get your eyes checked

Vertigo's advantage was starting out with Mature Readers versions of already established DC characters/titles. This allowed them to have something to fallback on in case a creator decides to leave and take their creation with them. Epic had the problem where Jim Starlin left Epic and brought Dreadstar over to First Comics because for a long while they'd had Dreadstar as their flagship Epic title

Marvel did have their own characters in the Epic line (Elektra, Silver Surfer) but it was very few because Marvel kept believing they needed to market all the characters to kids, so there was really no reason for a Marvel reader to want to jump over to Epic. Over at DC/Vertigo if someone liked Morrison's JLA they could go read his Doom Patrol or Invisibles; they liked Ennis' Hitman, they could go read Preacher

The other advantage Vertigo had over Marvel was DC getting a better foothold in the bookstore market; this helped sell Sandman to a larger audience

no u

Great argument.

No, not really.

Vertigo sucks.

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It did, it was Archie Goodwin baby.

it needed a career failure

No, it didn't.

They had too much good shit to even discuss all of it.

Love Dreadstar

I think one of the reasons why it isn't as fondly remembered as Vertigo is because it had so few ongoings. Other than Groo, Alien Legion, the Clive Barker comics, and the translated stuff like Akira, how many long-running series did they have? Dreadstar went to another company, Lawdog got cancelled, and uh... ? Yeah, there was just too much focus on miniseries over ongoings.

Agreed. I still have all the comics. Took a while to find the novelization of Origins (Day of the Dead & Cloak of Evil).

That and the Wild Cards stories.

Better than Epic

False.