How is it that older CGI just kinda looks better? It seems to have a special texture or lighting quality that I can't explain easily.
How is it that older CGI just kinda looks better...
Shrek 1 was created using Silicon Graphics computers
Watch "The Mind's Eye: A Computer Animation Odyssey". It's a compilation of old animated shorts from the 1980s.
I feel like it’s similar to what video games struggle with and that’s their attempts at more realistic lighting and textures. The problem is that as technology improves, the more something looks like real life, the worse it’s going to age. It’s why the Incredibles 2 is aging worse than the first one. Yeah, all the characters are super detailed , but it doesn’t fit with the aesthetic the characters were designed for, so it’s just going to look more and more off as time goes on and technology improves
That's rarely the case, and I haven't watched in a while but I don't remember Shrek being all that great but ultimately a bit better than shit like Toy Story 1 which not a fair comparison but that shit just didn't age well.
I'm guessing the 2000s is when they started figuring out how to stylize it well enough so it'd be a bit more...timeless. Though I really remember Incredibles looking really fucking lifeless.
Lower-poly stuff manages to avoid uncanny valley type of feelings more often
probably because new cgi is trying to be as realistic as possible, which clashes hard with any stylized design
The actual reason is because they had naturalistic light and detail, new movies are overly obsessed with parading all their tech without considering what the final result looks like which ironically makes them look fake
And that was before Spiderverse came along and made everyone actively aim to make their movies look like lucid nightmares
but I don't remember Shrek being all that great
The either you’re retarded or are misremembering. It looks better than most modern animated films by far.
new CGI makes everything look like its made from playdough or clay
old one they looked a little metallic or shiny plastic almost like more solid
new ones are too liquidy that it makes the human brain see them as creepy shadows like things arent supposed to move that fluidly
I'm not sure if I can articulate what I mean properly, so I'll probably sound like a schizo schizoing out but for me it's stuff like Reboot or Beast Wars had some kind of a "futuristic" feel to them.
They weren't realistic or perfect, but those imperfections only added to the feel of futuristic technology involved in the creation of a thing.
Nowadays CGI looks a bit too sterile. It's not good enough to be compared to hand-drawn visuals and not imperfect enough to create that robotic feel.
I wouldn't say better. It's better looking for simpler and more stylized designs but when it tries looking more realistic then it's worse. That's about the one thing newer animation has over the older stuff.
See, this is actually about to come to an end. It's kind of an open secret that we've come to a cap or at least a very big hurdle in terms of how much they can fit onto a single GPU while keeping it affordable meaning all that's really left is the last wave of new software/engines for a while
Don't fret anon, you're far from the only one to think this, there's basically an entire movement around early CGI and 199X-200X computer graphics in general because all the experimentation made for some really cool stuff. Pic related for example is by a guy making these sorts of works right now.
How is it that older CGI just kinda looks better? It seems to have a special texture or lighting quality that I can't explain easily.
See this never effected me much because i've always thought CGI looks like utter shit compared to hand drawn.
So it all looks equally repugnant to me.
back then you had to be the best of the best. Now with programs making animation easier and low talent cheap labor being outsourced 3d has become void of the original creativity it once was. Old 3d looks fantastic and full of imagination and creativity, now it's just dull (majority of my response is to this not Shrek). The same applies to Shrek as well. Once 3rd world countries learned the basics greedy companies outsourced.
Shrek looks good until you see any character that isn't him or Donkey
What about Fiona?
Faggot
If heaven is real I'd like it to be a pre-rendered background.
graphics have plateaued since around 2014, the next step is photorealism
Lack of taste
God I felt this way about HTTYD's sequels. Some where between impressive and gross, some of the new character models were outright ugly/downgrade compared to the first. I didn't think it was as bad with the Incredibles 2 but there was definitely a slight feeling of uncanniness to it.
Same here, Shrek has always loked fucking repulsive to me so to have it considered some hallmark is funny to me. It always looked like it was made by people with technical skill but no aesthetic sense
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Even though the release date is 1997, it's actually an anthology of much older stuff.
I think Incredibles 2 looks like a better movie, the main problem is that most of the new character designs look like shit. All the returning characters are improved somewhat.
Spiderverse was a net positive on animation, movies need more stylization not less.
Are you blind?
It wasn't, it just looks like a Disney movie with too many filters on top, if you want 3D stylization watch Love Death Robots
Same here, Shrek has always loked fucking repulsive to me so to have it considered some hallmark is funny to me. It always looked like it was made by people with technical skill but no aesthetic sense
Glad i'm not the only one out there. I can appreciate it on a technical level certainly but it all looks godawful to me.
tl;dr stylization>realism
f you want 3D stylization watch Love Death Robots
realistic humans with filters
no thanks. The witness short done by one of the Spiderverse artists is exactly what I DON'T want. It looks unappealing.
Most of LDR CGI offerings were just generic "muh realism" slop while one of the dudes that was actually unique was actually one of the guys that worked on Spiderverse
The actual animation in that one was good, Jibaro had better art direction.
Jibaro
I don't like this either!
I don't want to see sweat pours and eye sockets and heavily textured skin and defined realistic noses and dumpy bodies in animation when it's meant to be a pretty woman.
I want STYLIZATION. I want something more interesting than reality.
The first Shrek movie is a visual masterpiece
Moeslop sounds more your speed
I like the charm of cartoon art.
CGI striving for a more realistic look has become so homogenized and bland because there's almost nowhere else to go. That's why we get a lot of stylized movies now.
That, and somehow Disney and Pixar just completely forgot how to make appealing character designs.
this must have seemed like magic to the people back in the days