Death Battle

Itachi vs Post-Bear Rape Kratos

KINGTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS! SAVE THESE SACRED HALLS BY DESTROYING INDIA AND PAKISTAN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!

Simon Vs Kyle

Ashbros...

Ninja AIDS vs Bear-sama

can't even destroy one mountain

Kratosbros...how are we supposed to destroy entire countries...

OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
3 - 0

Its alright, Kratos already has practice killing jeets

BANG*
*SMASH*
*WALLOP*
*CRACK*
*Ed Edd n Eddy Sound Effects*
Kamina pauses from shoving his tongue down Yoko’s throat
K: “Kisama! Who’d interrupt the great and powerful Kamina-Sama?!”
Yoko stares annoyed at the rustling bush where a timetravelling american man is clearly beating Simon to death without mercy behind the branches and leaves
Y: “ew, it must, like, be that cuck midget Simon. I can’t believe I had a pity crush on that incel”
From the bush:
S: “KAMINA-SAMA SAVE ME! THIS AMERICAN GAIJIN IS BEATING ME TO A PULP!”
K: “SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LITTLE WORM, KISS MY ASS SOME MORE! Heh heh, I’ll beat the shit out of him after Im done fucking you ten times over Yoko. How old were you again? I like em young.”
The bushes rustle more as the asian midget gets pummelled by american fists until his face is unrecognisable, his teeth are all broken and his ingrown skull begins to cave in
S: “AAAIIIIEEEEEEEE IF ONLY I’D WORSHIPPED KAMINA-SAMA MORE!”

I will post Ash's Pikachu clashing with Palkia and Arceus, but YugiCHADS have to promise NOT to bring up meteors at all and ESPECIALLY not bring up ANY KIND of CEMENT AT. ALL. Okay?

Kratos will simply kill their entire pantheon and fuck up their geography and climate like he did to Greece at the end of GoW3

Making a GOW game set in India might unironically cause them to declare war on the US and kickstart WW3 for real

India GOW Kratos will bend over for all the Indian gods and learn to be better because of their culture, becoming Guru Kratos

Arceus is a weak little bitch

This will happen

I can imagine. Kratos brutally killing Hanuman or Kali... Lmao

MAN. Imagine the backlash if Kratos did this to a Hindu god

Just to keep the thread on topic...

Out of Kyle and Simon, which one do you believe is strongest?

Which one will actually win Death Battle?

What's your dream Death Battle match up?

if there was a GOW game set in India Kratos might actually get real universe tier feats and scaling

there will never be a GOW game set in India because jeets would burn down Santa Monica Studio

grim

the Hindu gods are unkillable in fiction because of their real life subjects

I...kneel...

Simon
Kyle through Swank
Not sure. Maybe Thor vs Orion in Jack Kirby's art style off the top of my head

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Kyle
Kyle
Dream vs Nightmare

Technically Kyle due to the Life Equation, but he can't use it well so Simon

Kyle

mostly just want an SMT (not shitsona) or MonHun character on the show, don't care about the matchup in particular beyond that. Maybe redone Vergil vs Sephy with nu-DB's budget if I had to pick, even if the outcome is the same

TTGL has enouch niche cosmology that I can see them justify Simon's deserved win

scaling

come on man Ash's Pokémon have to have an impressive feat of their own like Obelisk creating a huge storm right? I swear Infernape has a good one but I'm not going out fetching feats for the other side

that was a hologram

This is Infernape's best feat

Most Pokemon anime feats are just

causes big explosion and kicks up a lot of dust

smashes whatever Jessie and James' robot of the week is

sometimes it gets as high as building level but that's rare

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Simon
Simon
Shadow Vs. Sakuya

RRRAAAAGGGGHHH CAPTAIN AMERICA HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME BREAK MY HAND BY BLOCKING WITH YOUR SHIELD?! KISAMA!!!

Yujiro's quake punches would jiggle Cap through his shield and make him explode in a shower of gore

Captain America

Captain Vietnam victim.

I thought hindu gods were fair game since FF did it tho

You know, that's probably a good marker for street-tiers' skills and reflexes. Could they catch a Captain America shield throw? When it comes to Yujiro, I'd say so

Indians and Japanese have an unspoken hatred, yet also uneasy kinship

Yujiro just got lucky and the earthquake stopped by itself right after he punched the ground, btw.

The planet itself knew not to embarrass Yujiro out of fear, so it stopped the earthquake in submission

Post a bear destroying a mountain

I can't, they already destroyed all of the mountains

Bullet timing is a better metric

It gets too muddled by aim dodging and cinematic timing

Can I take your order please?

Does Hulk have any answers to Godzilla Ultima?

I'll have two street-tier feats with universal scaling, one laser aim-dodge treated as FTL reactions and one order of quaternary scaling to a feat that happened 60 years ago

I'll do you one better

Big PUNCH!!

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KRATOSXISTERS OUR RESPONSE???

The bear needed Kratos' sperm that he oh so generously donated to boost its power

Asura, help!

*Asura rises from the grave he buried himself in so Kratos wouldn't feel bad*
I'LL HELP YOU, KRATOS-CHAN!
*bear immediately btfos him*

Spawn! Please! You're my only hope now!!

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ENOUGH slander. ENTER the UNDEFEATED Trio

Spawn pushes Kratos further down the Bear's maw

...and SHITte and COCKslayer.

All bear victims.

AAARRRGGHHH TREADWELL-SAMA COME TALK WITH THIS BEAR AND TELL HIM TO BE A BETTER MAN!

…of the laundry-folding competition.

You need to be a better bear

that was clearly Kratos in a bear costume

He TANKED that

Kyle can't kill his rapist

Kratos defeated his rapist

KINGtos scales above GAPEDyle

MY FUARKING HERO STRIKES AGAIN

Kratos...that was just the LITTLE BEAR...

KINGtos can tank being digested by a bear

MY FUARKING HERO!!!!

AIslop

*Kratos gulps comically*

It's right behind me, isn't it?

Kratos... Easy on the pasta...

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That's a cute little blonde girl...

Uh-oh...

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Hal Jordan...

bears

yes

little girl

wrong gender and not related to him, he'll be disgusted by one

canon

Bring me a loli matchup

why is this sick bastard swimming in the spaghetti????

Hal...

Spiderman...

It's how he gets his sick kicks

Strike witches in death battle when?

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Suika Ibuki vs Pippi Longstocking

Bejita...

they can fight an ace combat protagonist of their choice

With every source available to me… the crossovers, the shows and comics, the writer tweets, the author interviews, VSBW… and THERE IS STILL NO WAY TO SEE KYLE DESTROYING A GALAXY, MUCH LESS A UNIVERSE! I’m FUCKING SEETHING that KYLE, who I have WORSHIPPED for 30 FUCKING YEARS, is so UNBEARABLY WEAK that he will be JOBBING against a guy who was not only NOT RAPED but also the BETTER MAN who can DESTROY GALAXIES and UNIVERSES. My HERO does NOT deserve this ridicule from Anon Babble, Reddit, and YouTube! He is EASILY BOUNDLESS according to my COMPOSITE FANFICTION and once he destroys a galaxy, you’ll ALL BE FUCKING SORRY!!!

He's tanked stronger blows with that shield.

Shadow Vs. Sakuya

defeats Ares after Ares creates a universe (even when viewed from npcs in the future the npcs see it happening)

defeats Hades the equal of Zeus who commands and is omnipresent across two infintie dimensions (Hades and Tartarus)

defeats Helios who has an infinite speed and power attack and whose predecessor merged three infinite dimensions together using the same attack

defeats Primordials, Mountain Sized Titans who also created Time itself, his father Zeus the leader of all gods empowered by Pandora's Box, Thor and Odin who broke Time itself and created their own multiverse

Fates themselves were unable to reality warp him out of existence, because by sheer power of will he reality warped his own string of destiny into whatever he so chose. Literally impossible to make him lose by any means as they admitted

The King of Kings. You hate him cause you ain't him

Holy shit...all of that inside a single planet...these might be the weakest versions of those concepts

Post them doing this on screen

The King of Kings.

gilgamesh out of nowhere

You weren't supposed to ask that....

doomslayer jobs easily in his new game

MORE LIEK COOMGOONER

Doom Slayer can revive himself via hate alone

KEKlo bros...

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Okay but Yugi nodiffs Ash

Muh... Hate... And le epic rage man... Demon killing man... Too angry to die

Grow up. Be better.

Holy fuark...what a BEAST

John Byrne....

Post a bear killing a T. rex in the real world

Actually becomes a better man

You're responsé?

Fuark Kingtos save me grant me your power!!!

Aren't Duel Monsters just holographic?

The millennium items are able to call the real articles into existence.

The last few threads have PROVEN that the general audience is clearly misinformed on Yugioh to the point they believe Duel Monsters is just made out of holograms and Yugi himself could just get shot in the face wiht a shotgun gg.

That is why we ended up with Ash vs Yugi instead of something actually thematic to him. Its just lol muh walmart 4kids trading cards xD and you know it.

Seriously, its so annoying people can talk about stuff they do not know anything about and expect respect out of people too.

Not true.
EVERYONE can summon monsters irl if the Ba is strong enough and their bond with the very real duel monster spirit exists.

Season 3 alone shows that people with strong magic or powers can just lift a magic card and hax a guard with it if they want to.
And this is just shown over and over agian in Season 4, Pyramid of Light, Capsule monsters and ALL OF YUGIOH GX.

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Who is stronger?

Simon.

Who will DB say wins?

Kyle because DC

Dream matchup?

Honestly don't care who he fights, but I'd love an episode with Sesshomaru in it.

Then that's even better.

Seriously, it just gets me mad that ppl here are this misinformed or just didnt watch the series all the way thru.
The Dub includes season 4 and capsule monsters after all.

I bet they do not even know just seeing the God Cards without a millenium item or a strong will can fucking make you suicidal or mad like the researchers Pegasus hired.

Kill yourself listtroon.

Kill yourself listroon

Nah, stay in your robot lane and fight the Fury

Gonna have to find him first.

Who should Shimo fight?

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Me. She's my wife after all

No, I don't think I will.

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Does Kyle rape Simon or the other way around?

Yes, Kyle wins. Now please don't use rape, there's hundreds of other words, like "stomps" or "no-diffs"

That is why we ended up with Ash vs Yugi instead of something actually thematic to him.

Or you know, because Pokemon vs Yugioh is an infamous rivalry like Pokemon vs Digimon? Not like Yugioh has any other iconic rivalries, MtG has no real face character, and all of Yugioh's other card game rival is Duel Masters, a Japanese-only franchise.

No.

What matches do you think are contentious enough to score a runback if the loser ends up getting new material to make them more powerful?
Aside from Dragon Ball.

Idk superman vs Russians literally was rape.

Sonic

Infamous rivalry...... BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING TCG.

The same TCG that is double noncanon to even composite Ash.

everyone in YGO vs everyone in MtG?

I think Shadow vs Mewtwo should be remade. Not only because it was rigged, but because the fight itself sucked

To everyone on the thread which are some rematches you'd like to see because the characters have gotten way better stuff since then?

Peach vs Zelda and Sephi vs Vergil are in long need of a good re research.

Speezenator…

BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING TCG.

You're retarded, franchises like Pokemon, Yugioh, Bakugan, Beyblade, Digimon, etc are within the same genre, and Pokemon/Yugioh have the distinction of being the most popular out of the late 90s/early 00s bunch when anime was starting to get big.

There is a YGO vs MTG fight that works, Jace is sort of a face character and they both do mindfuckery shit and mind games, it would be one part magic fight and one part wit contest

Sephi vs Vergil

It would be another stomp for Sephiroth. DMC5 Vergil couldn't handle base FF7 Sephiroth and that's ignoring how he can manipulate timelines in 7R.

Luigi vs Tails for me. No way Luigi loses that.
I'd rather have Vergil vs Sesshomaru rather than a rematch desu. Even if it's a stomp, it's better than getting an episode remade just to end up with the same result (unless it's one of the early, shitty seasons, then I'm up for it)

Ryu vs Goku

Goku can destroy Solar Systems and withstand attacks that can destroy Solar Systems

Is it not supposed to be end of Dragon Ball Goku?

That's still Moon/Planet level.

I kinda dislike the idea that if the one loser gets a big upgrade then an episode is worthy of a rematch.
Rematches should be a thing if both fighters are getting stronger but also getting new tools to work with so it isn't the exact same fight but bigger number.

Jace isn't popular enough also a shitstomp since MtG gets multiversal shit and Yugi has to do retarded mental gymnastics with Horakthy to even get to that level.

Shadow Generations only gave Shadow a huge nerf against mindfuckery, the result would be even more of a stomp for Mewtwo

No, you know i am right.

Yugioh and Pokemon are only compared of the damn tcg and 4kids.

Anything would be better than Ash vs Yugi imo.
I personally would love for him to fight Sakura Kinomoto

I say Sephi wins cuz Dissidia is pretty much canon

Composite.

And solar system level Goku is downplay

It's inherently not a fun battle simply because Shadow doesn't have good mental defenses against Mewtwo
There's just nothing stopping Mewtwo from mindcontrolling him

I think Ash will lose just because the team are still edge lords and they would want to animate Ash pathetically crying over Pikachu dying before getting killed himself.

according to yugiohniggers Yugi should just be able to mind crush Jace and win

Could still be fun to see them fighting again, just for the fanservice

He resists Doom's control every time he's mindfucked. I guess you could say seeing Maria in danger made him snap out of it, but he does resist him again Maria-less in the final boss battle.

I guess you could say seeing Maria in danger made him snap out of it

The fact he had to be snapped out of it already means that it worked, not to mention the multiple cases where he in fact didn't snap out of it, where the only way to undo mindfuckery was to have other people help him out of it

Not to mention that Doom's level of mindfuckery is nowhere near close to Mewtwo,

dic.pixiv.net/a/ホビアニ

Hobby anime is a children's anime created to promote the sale of children's toys and games (hobbies).

Pokemon and Yugioh listed as examples

You're a fucking moron.
UHHH WOW TCGS ARE THE ONLY REASON WHY THESE TWO POPULAR TOY COLLECTING ANIME ABOUT KIDS USING MONSTERS TO BATTLE ARE RIVALS

Oh Red vs Tai was such nonsense.

Red only having Charizard is moronic.

Yugi cannot mindcrush like you might think from EP1, he only expelled Kaiba's evil away.

He can however, insta kill all of Ash's team, control them, redirrect their attacks at Ash or just erase Ash directly with Shining Dragon.

noncanon arc commissioned by 4kids

Ash is from the Anime, Yugi is from a Manga.

Yugi appears in games as protagonist, Ash appears in games as a USA exclusive puzzle league reskin and as a cameo crossover in a gacha.

Yugi appears in TCG, Ash does not appear in the TCG nor its canon to either the gacha game, the games or the anime.

I was under the impression Jace isn't really a Nicol or a Yawgmoth, he's more a John Constantine and anything that gets him to multiverse level is about as sound as whatever gets Atem to multiverse level

Red only having Charizard is moronic.

To be fair, Digimon scales way above Pokemon. The episode was handled poorly but Tai would still win.

You didn’t play Shadow Gens then, the entire game he’s being raped again and again by Black Doom’s mindfucks, and Gerald himself confirms if he doesn’t kill Doom soon then Doom is guaranteed to possess him completely.
It’s a downgrade from the original where he just needed Maria to wake him up then Doom claimed him “immune”, now he can only delay it but it works every time

Ash can just have bulbasaur use sleep powder to knock out Yugi instantly
Even in his armor mode his face is completely uncovered

He also can't control all of Ash's team, he has 1 card that lets him control 1 monster and Ash has snapped his pokemon out of mind control before

And? Taking away PoL and Capsule Monsters hardly matters when Season 4 exists.

B-But it isnt canon to the manga!

Yeah, neither is GX, 5DS, Zexal or the rest of the continuity people actually care about.

b-b-but!

Youre the reason this shit matchup is being done instead of something actually interesting,.

You guys are overthinking this, isn't the connections monster collecting, or for yugi card collecting and the fact they're probably the first recognizable anime that's shown in the west?

Ash is from the Anime, Yugi is from a Manga.

UHH WHY ARE YOU USING THE FACE OF YUGIOH VS THE FACE OF POKEMON

YUGI ALSO FAMOUSLY NEVER GOT AN ANIME

Look at my fucking retards man

He's a planeswalker, even if not multiversal level, he still scales naturally far above Yugi, who at the end of the day is still a regular person

NOOOOOO YUGI SHOULD FIGHT MY LITERAL WHO BECAUSE UHHHH

No one cares. Go back to r/eddit.

You guys are overthinking this, isn't the connections monster collecting

and the fact they're probably the first recognizable anime that's shown in the west

I LITERALLY SAID THIS WHAT DO YOU MEAN OVERTHINKING, HE'S THE FUCKING RETARD THAT THINKS POKEMON AND YUGIOH AREN'T AN ICONIC RIVALRY

Mewtwo being part of the debate would have made it less of a stomp.
A lil, but less of an almost spiteful stomp.

Yugi resists absorbtion and sleep hax from orichalcos serpent.
Jaden also resist being put to sleep by the darkness in GX.

Not that it matters since Ash never has attacked another trainer directly like that while Yugi has done so with Shining Dragon.

Ash himself has never been mindhaxed and there is no evidence Pikachu can just ignore being mindhaxed by beings stronger than himself.

Yugi hardly "monster collects" he has his cards from his grandpa and buys booster packs on occassion.
Ash is the one that captures wild pokes

le stutter post

Calm down. I never mentioned it being noncanon to the manga. I think like any other anime character, both manga and canon anime will used in research. They'll research the manga of course, season 0, Duel Monsters, the bits of GX he's in, Dark Side of Dimensions, and Bonds Beyond Time.

it's not sleep hax and Jaden is not Yugi, it's just flat out a powder that puts people physically to sleep
It even works on 5000 IQ psychic creatures

i mean you can consider it "iconic" but its a meme connection based on the non canon TCG and 4kids showing the shows together in the same channel.

So what? Non canon shit has been used in daeth battle before.

Limiting Yugi to just the manga is just making you look scared for Ash.

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If we go by canon game team(s) he wouldn't have Mewtwo.

A lil, but less of an almost spiteful stomp.

Eh, they just portrayed Red like a retard and did the classic "pokemon trainers are actually abusing their pokemon???" internet trope. I kind of expect the same with Ash even after all these years.

Sleep hax is being put to sleep. In general.
Not that it matters since Duel Monsters can just protect you from physical stuff.

Yugi 100% outscales anything Jaden can do via duel spirit

Origins? Regardless, the point is that they made it a dragon 1v1 for no reason, and made the match look like a spiteful stomp for Tai.

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Those were the pre-Mending planewalkers, and I'm not sure Jace ignited his planewalker spark before the Mending and so his natural stats probably aren't that great

So what? Non canon shit has been used in daeth battle before.

I think it becomes less common as time goes on. I can't really remember the last time they did it.

It's fairly obvious that Deathbattle is biased against pokemon to some degree, aside from Machamp vs Goro, which was a match requested by the animators, pokemon matches are intentionally biased against pokemon to a spiteful degree.
And this has been true forever, Pikachu vs Blanka is effectively a pure spite match intended to make Pikachu lose by intentionally putting him against a fairly minor character they pre-determined was immune to electricity.

Ash's mindhax is very inconsistent, I know he can resist some level of mind control but that might not be consistent

My bad

meme connections

eh there's worse connections just look at half of listroons list

looks at Renamon vs Lucario

Yeah sure.

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Pokemon x Yugioh = 1100~ results

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Pokemon x Digimon = 1700~ results

Good god you retarded fucking nigger even the Japs acknowledge a Pokemon vs Yugioh rivalry on the account they're in the same fucking genre of toy commercial anime about collection and monster fighting

UHH BUT YUGIOH WAS ORIGINALLY A MANGA WHILE ASH IS FROM ANIME

Oh, you mean the manga that got an anime? The one like every kid watched? You are the dumbest vantablack gorilla nigger.

there's 100% chance that Ash will be the aggressor here and in the wrong because he's an idiot who deserves it and what not
they'll probably even do something like "ash never uses strategy while yugi does so he deserves to win" completely disregarding all the times ash actually used competent strategies

was only made because Red vs Tai was so obviously spiteful they had to make up for it

The issue here, buddy.
Is that all of Duel Monsters, the toei anime people know and care most about is non canon.

GX, 5DS, Zexal etc.

So make up your fucking mind.
Are we limiting Ash to just the anime too?

Sleep talk heracross is still my favorite moment in the anime for pokemon battle.

Also idk if yugi has any damage nullification cards but can we just ignore that because Pikachu's "aim for the horn" bullshit

pixiv is an indication that the matchup is not a 4kids meme

lol
you dont deserve a proper answer

Are we limiting Ash to just the anime too?

That's already being done since Ash is not allowed to scale his pokemon to the game pokedex.

Explain how listroon's mus are memes or below literal 4kids walmart trading cards

Renamon vs Lucario was spite against rena tho

Kill yourself listroon

Did ben say that somewhere? Every single time pokes have been used in death battle have been thru the pokedex.

Because otherwise youre just making shit up to gutter Yugi to the bare mininum

Sleep talk heracross is still my favorite moment in the anime for pokemon battle.

I honestly dislike it, not for the strategy, the strategy was impressive, sleep talk guts megahorn is one hell of a drug against a dark type pokemon

However my issue with it is that Darkrai arbitrarily negated the entire attack when in reality, a Darkrai that's on the receiving end of a heracross's boosted megahorn gets killed 50 times over

Heracross should by all rights have KO'd that Darkrai

becomes ghost from CALL OF DUTY

so he dies by Shepard? Boo

Death battle is biased against pokemon but they're the only franchise that gets pity victories because they were too mean? I'm sure there are bunch of other franchises that wished death battle "hated" them as much they seem to hate pokemon. Goku didn't get to murder Jimmy Olsen because they curbstomped him in GvS2.

Renamon vs Lucario was spite against rena tho

No it wasn't, it was an apology match but it wasn't spiteful
Spiteful is putting up a character against another character with whom they have 0 connection just because that other character is immune to their attacks
Pikachu vs Blanka still is one of the most obvious spite matches in deathbattle history

Are we limiting Ash to just the anime too?

Yes because he's an anime only character. I don't think he's getting much from Pokemon Puzzle League anyway.
The manga and anime for Duel Monsters are basically telling the same story, the anime is just more flashy with their holograms. The reason Capsule Monsters would be considered non canon is because it's a completely original story that didn't even air in Japan.

They've already undermined that match by repeatedly saying that they now believe Lucario should have lost

I really cannot believe we seriously have people here retarded enough to think Pokemon and Yugioh don't belong in the same genre of anime

Game has gameplay

What's the complaint now?

in the previous thread yugioh people were arguing that the pokedex entry for gyarados shouldn't be allowed to scale pokemon to city level feats

Baikena and future gohan is just because of having 1 hand

Tiki and Tohru is just Dragon

I will say the castlevania ones are pretty good

All that was said was that city level Pokemon are considered very rare in-universe

show me a yugioh monster destroying a building.

It is somewhat spiteful depriving Rena from her other form.

Okay so absolutely nothing from the game pokedex or lore.

Yugi wins via scaling to Prana. GG.

Dugtrio is used to give em country level thru the earthquakes i think.
Regardless, Lusamine Ultra Beast scaling is almost guaranteed

No? Both got their homeland and family destroyed by man made weapon people.

Dragon that transforms into human form from a fantasy setting, Tiki also ends up in the modern age thru TMS#FE

Castlevania ones are good to you at least

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Wow that's really weird how Pokemon and Yugioh are brought up alongside various toy commercial anime like Bakugan, Beyblade, Dinosaur King, Medabots, Monster Rancher, etc that were never known for their TCGs, it's almost like they're in some sort of similar genre of anime or something!
I also like how despite this retarded groid's niggerbabble about some irrelevant retard shit like Yugi originally coming from a manga (that was later adapted to an anime) that he hasn't posted what matchup he thinks is heckin thematic, it's probably Sakura vs Yugi so he can self insert as Sakura because he's a troon

Do you not know what tinyurl is?

we can go higher

Okay I thought that the hate on listtroon was weird and excessive but after having to argue with this retarded nigger on how popular 00s toy collecting monster fighting anime might acquire some sort of rivalry and having to hear inane babble like "YUGI IS FROM A MANGA. ASH IS FROM AN ANIME" and "ITS ONLY BECAUSE OF TCGS AND 4KIDS" I want this listtroon nigger raped into bloody meatchunks, jesus christ what a retard

Dugtrio's "creates earthquakes" statement is absolutely nothing. No idea of how it does it, the size of the earthquake, or how long it takes to do it.

The best Pokedex feat is either Machamp's mountain level statements (which have been soft retconned out) or Arceus which is only rumored to create a universe.
The best on screen feat in Pokemon games is Rayquaza destroying a meteor said to be six miles in diameter. Though Rayquaza is more or less the strongest Pokemon in-universe outside of maybe Eternamax.

They in character have little in common. I think both should have other MUs

Okay so absolutely nothing from the game pokedex or lore.

That's fine.
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Charizard's flame can melt absolutely anything

The games have them say the magnitude of the earthquakes, regardless thats what vsbw uses.

Yeah, in that universe.
Yugi or the manga Prana higher dimensional power are not from the pokemon universe.

again, cope and gg.

You either give them both the anime or game canon or neither gets it.

hologram

You basically showed me a speaker playing music so loud it vibrated the room. Are the Pokemon going to be fighting holograms? No.

How did you think the main response to him became 'Kill yourself listroon", it happened for a reason

Yugi or the manga Prana higher dimensional power are not from the pokemon universe.

Weird mental gymnastics. I'm just convinced you're trolling now. You had me for a moment.

hologram

We didn't ask for your opinion, Kaiba.

Sonic does beat Goku tho

So speaking of Digimon, if they were to do an Omega/Omnimon fight, would they be more likely to do original Adventure and Our War Game, or would they do a total composite of modern Digimon for him?
On one hand, powerscalers of course are going to want the more 'complete' version of Omegamon at play.
On the other hand, I think Digimon's cosmology has shifted so much that it is hard to say that there is any competitive match ups for its higher tiers on the composited side.

The move Magnitude is definitely sketchy considering the Richter scale is logarithmic while the in-game Magnitude damage variance is...not.
A magnitude 10 in Pokemon is literally just considered, if you take it at face value, 15 times more powerful than a magnitude 4. Meanwhile as said above since the Richter is logarithmic a magnitude 10 earthquake irl is literally like trillions of times more powerful which is why vsbw gets goofy numbers from earthquakes to begin with.

Anyway both of the earthquake moves in Pokemon have never been used in the anime so it's a moot point.

Shit Yugi doesn't have

That's crazy.

and all of Yugioh's other card game rival is Duel Masters, a Japanese-only franchise.

reminder that Duel Masters is jap-only only because WoTC were scared it would replace their shitty MtG

You know Yugi literally fought alongside the 5Ds protagonist right

They'll probably present the story as the one from Adventure, make a brief mention of the other ones, but ultimately use a composite power-wise with "All Omnimon/Omegamon should be capable of roughly the same things"

In the event that they actually do another Hokuto no Ken matchup (I assume they might just do a Ken match again cause everybody knows him) I hope they don't skip on the Souten no Ken stuff because it'd be funny to see a very ability reliant character suddenly have to face this shit down.

Did he use that technology?

I am just sayin thats what vsbw uses

asking this when The Millenium Puzzle can create a whole dimension with our sun and all that

asking this when momentum is not even stronger than egyptian magic

bruva...

I suppose my point is, what exactly is there to make him interesting given that All-Delete appears to be so all-encompassing?

Fair, most Pokemon shit beyond building starts veering into heavy wank outside a few isolated cases though

Simon

Simon

Lord English VS Superboy Prime

Simon

Kyle 100% there is no universe where they let a DC herald lose

Composite Goku vs Composite Ryu, they got th e money to do something really spectacular with that

Depends on if they want to include Tai and Matt in the fight.

pokemon isn't even building level

Ash is going to die.

those lights are really going to get him

the reason Ash vs Yugi can be discussed is because neither can be properly cuckposted
it's an animal fucker vs a pervert

Presumably the theme of him fighting another high powered fusion

Eh, i think the highest they should give PIkachu is inifnite power in the 3D scale.

He did beat Lusamine and that gives him ultra beast scaling.

But Yugi has both infinite obelisk and knight of destiny to match or surpass that.

Lusamine/the ultra beasts don't really get anything impressive beyond building tier either.

Giga Drill Break Vs. Kyle's Source Wall. which will break first

Simon

I think they'll actually give it to Simon. He's got all the tools and arguments to win for em and they know people want a DC herald loss. Kyle has way more chinks in his armor when you actually read his comics

Any Disgaea matchup just to see them meltdown in their attempt to calculate their power

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I mean, theme only carries a fight so far. I doubt that Death Battle would cite it, but if we invoke the card game, then All-Delete can be negated by anything that prevents Deletion. That's about as much as I could see regarding ways to bridge between concepts.

neither as the fight will end with both being stripped and fighting like men

STIFFEN THE WOOBATS!!! ALAIN?! You want to do WHAT with my wife?! You wanna help SERENA catch ALL the STDS?! You want to make her a CHAMPION in the SACK!?! You want to MEGA EVOLVE YOUR PENIS inside my WIFE'S VAGINA?! EEEEHHHH?!?! You REALLY mean that you would be so GRACEFUL as to SQUIRTLE on her JIGGLYPUFFS while I, ASH KETCHUM, get to PIKACHU getting it ON from the CLOSET?!?!??! YIIPEEEEE!! And after ALL of this happens, I would get to REGISTER YOUR CHILD on the humandex as though she was MY VERY OWN DAUGHTER??!!?!?! WOO HOO! So what you're saying is, that YOU and SERENA will be GOING AT IT like LOPUNNIES IN HEAT, while I watch from the CORNER, filming it with my ROTOM CAMERA that you are getting for ME!!?! And then, you will HAMMER ARM and CLOSE COMBAT her in order to leave her in a CONFUSED and INJURED state, in which her PLEASURE will be AMPLIFIED?!?!? And then, when you are done with her, you are going to let out ALL of your pokemon take turns RAILING HER?! YABBA DABBA DOO I'LL BE THE BEST KEKOLD THERE EVER WAS!!!!!!!!!!!

Iluminating all of ultra space which is infinite in size

dude he's like 10

Yeah and?

Yugibro btw

I think that Simon is written as a stronger character more consistently than Kyle is, so Simon.
Death Battle is as unpredictable as it is predictable, so it is hard to say who will win, but the reasoning is almost certainly going to be unsatisfying.
My dream bout would be totally impossible, but if we could ever see a Tournament of Power type multiple episode scenario I think that could be cool.

Simon is objectively more experienced than Kyle is. So he has that going for him.

I agree but I can see them pulling some shit like "Kyle has been around for 30 years! Of course he's more experienced!"

we know they're retarded but not to that extent. no one will fall for that

loses to Ghost Shark

It didn't do that. It's just some generic statement about how it's light shone throughout Ultra Space, there's nothing stating it covers the whole thing.
Necrozma has the power to create portals which is why it's light reaches other worlds easily.

Also this was Necrozma in the past who is significantly more powerful than modern Necrozma that cannot produce it's own light, and Ash does not scale to any of it.

I think most fans would. And not to be pessimistic but what would people even do if they outright said "We couldn't think of a way Kyle would win but we made him win anyway so fuck you"? They would just keep watching.

Jaws can eat ghosts though. What dont you understand by ANYTHING.

Traveling or going thru an infinite thing makes it infinte.
Regarldess, that is what i expect them to give anime pikachu at its peak.

It travels through it because of the portals it can create, not because of infinite speed or power or anything.
But yes, I don't doubt that Death Battle will purposefully misinterpret shit to try and work Pikachu (who has been stopped by cages and walls many times before) to multiversal.

(who has been stopped by cages and walls many times before) to multiversal.

Superman

Who can beat them?

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Starfire?

Necrozma is Star level

TTG

listens to Will of the Drill

"Yeah, it's alright. Although, the vocal version is Brandon's most viewed video, so it's probably better"

Brandon starts singing

mfw

I'm not sure since from what I've seen, both got insane stuff so I'm split on who is stronger
Probably Kyle due to some obscure DC stuff
Easy, Ohma Zi-O vs Lord Drakkon

did he sing Simon's verses or Kyle's

I've been trying to think some MonHun matches up. I know people don't like in-universe matchups but I think Vaal Hazak vs Narkarkos would be cool

Maybe game Necrozma, but this is very doubtful.

Anime Necrozma, who Ash doesn't even really scale to but if you want to wank I guess maybe you could, barely managed to destroy a meteor a few times bigger than it and then was irreparably broken and damaged as a result.

Kyle because Simon's best stuff requires copilots and help, he's actually not that strong solo

Simon because they'll buy into the hype and give him all the stuff he actually needed a team for to pull off

Undertaker vs El Santo

Taker turned into a jobber near the end of his career.

Yeah game Necrozma, it managed to absorb all the light in the world it lived in.

Simon
Simon. In a way, the fans essentially paid for the matchup to see DC lose.
Devilman vs Hellboy
Given that a new HnK anime was announced a couple years ago (we haven't heard anything since), it is possible.
I don't know, he started singing second.

The 'world it lived in' was also literally just the size of a city.

The song that plays when my favorite verse runs train on every gookshit tranime, cucked capeshit, and Anon Babbletoddler verse conjured by mankind.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni3CazygOh4

You ever realize that powerscalers have somehow figured out a way to take pataphysics seriously even though it was a joke.

I don't think taking fictitious pataphysics nonsense seriously is any less viable than taking any form of fiction seriously.

The Emperor is foddered by Sailor Moon btw

Using pataphysics to explain fictional cosmology is nonsense though, which is to say that there is no sense to be extracted from it. It isn't internally consistent.

I just waived a magic wand and now it is, sorry!

only suggs does that

Given that a new HnK anime was announced a couple years ago (we haven't heard anything since), it is possible.

Definitely. There was a panel recently where they showed the promo again and said "Coming Soon" though, so I assume you might see a trailer during this year or the next. Guess the question is more if they'll do Raoh or just more Kenshiro if the new anime is good enough to get popular.

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because Simon's best stuff requires copilots and help

It was confirmed that he can do basically everything himself

When and where do powerscalers actually apply Pataphysics?

More or less just trying to needle it in via using SCP as an entry point, it is part of the reason SCP got scorched earthed from VSBW.

Suggs was always a joke too. I heard the guy made his "verse" just because he wanted to win Vs debates.

Rewatching Ben Vs Hal

Glance at the comments

See someone complaining about the Omnitrix not defending Ben from getting his arm cut off

While I think that Hal winning through that is silly (even though I believe that he wins in general), the number of people who complain about that is funny to me when you consider how often the Failsafe…fails.
In Omniverse, Ben’s watch was attacked directly numerous times and the FS didn’t activate, which resulted in him being shunted to the past and turned into a kid. There are times where the watch flubs against way bigger threats, hell it didn’t even automatically swap Ben when the universe was exploding in his face. There’s also that time he got his watch hand cut off but I don’t remember if that happened before or after the FS was unlocked.

According to google

wtf? some vsbwikitards googled, found suggs in the results and believed it was legit lmao kek

If you bring all of dcs cosmology and looney tunes 4thworld reality convergence, Kyle easily

Failsafe

this word is tainted for me now

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Flandre: Wimps and pretenders. Barely worth my weakest attack.

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Venom victim

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Why are the next matches obvious stomps? There's no tension when it's obvious. Yeah, of course Kyle won. Of course Light wins, Of course Wille E. Coyote wins, Of course The Traveler wins, Of course Godzilla wins, Of Course Yugi wins, Of Course Maka wins, Of Course Gru Wins

I have no idea why people cry so much about this stupid thing. It's just a reconfigured Amazo bot that doesn't job in like 3 issues. Brother Eye was a thing like 20 years ago and is way more egregious than this in every way

what do you mean, why? because it was made by Batman. it's his fourth or fifth time making a construct that can solo the League when he's the token street tier that can also solo the League by himself. it's stupid

Spider-Man: Sheesh, and I thought I had past trauma issues, we got a whole edgy manchild cosplayer convention up in here!

A quick look shows that the failsafe has been part of the Omnitrix since the start of the series. It only activates when the user's life is in danger or the Omnitrix is being tampered with. So it not triggering when Ben’s hand was cut off is consistent with how it works.

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spidercuck is the last person to get to project being a manchild

Honestly the worst thing about this hobby is that I never know if someone legitimately believes something or if their method of engagement is trying to push the envelope as far as it will go.
Was there a point when powerscaling wasn't so intrinsic to battleboarding?

Shadow is still.to powerful to be mind controlled via will power, and too fast forested to think a thought, meetwo gets bltized

I still think Digimon vs Kingdom Hearts with either Org 13 vs 7 Demon Lords (them being outnumbered hardly matters knowing how much a difference in calcs there would end up being lmao) or just a 1v1 (I think Roxas is a good choice against a Digimon protag) would work out if you gave Kingdom Hearts weird ass cosmology and Jafar Genie's infinite cosmic power feats. But they're probably gonna say that Kingdom Hearts is on the weaker scale so Xehanort doesn't absolutely stomp Palpatine too hard, I can't see them putting a multiversal character against a guy who is only solar system/black hole level WITH wank.

Mewtwo is still too weak, and Super Shadow makes this a clear one sided win for Shadow.

Maybe if you're hung up on cuckoldry. Otherwise Spidey's very first appearance is already more mature than those three vidya goobers combined

who makes this shit?

Kyle worked for the GL all his life off screen. So no, Simon doesn't have more experience, considering time in DC can have heroes be on missions for more than 100 years in another reality compared to their original.

Source?

throwing a tantrum and crying like a bitch is mature to a spidermanbaby

Lmao
Literal 30 year old who still tries to larp as a teen, btw

Sailor Moon is GAPED and RAPED by Dragon Ball because it's moeshit and it doesn't count. Even though realistically Dragon Ball gets destroyed by sailor moon in reality.

By this logic 40k btfos all of Marvel, DC and Anime because comparatively all of that is moeshit and 40k is cooler so the Emperor wins automatically.

Super Shadow has no resistance to mindhax either. Mewtwo kills him

Funny that Paul himself is a cuck now

Psht. Kyle was at least 21 when he got his ring, and he's probably no older than 30 right now

Yeah, Monster Hunter is a tough one to find a good match for. I think they'd use Rajang or Nergigante for a fight if they had to, maybe Malzeno. As for who, I have no idea. Maybe one of the bigger Resident Evil monsters? G Birkin or Nemesis vs Rajang? Ditrimescu vs Nergigante? Idk. Maybe fucking HAOS from Resident Evil 6 vs Fatalis, lmao.

He was fifteen years old

She was confirmed stronger by ZUN though they never had a rematch.

Honestly, I'd love if we could just ratchet down our scaling by a lot. All the numbers and concepts being tossed around these days are just unreasonable to their home narratives 9/10 times.

Non canon and the fight was dictated by fans.

Peter grew up over it in Ultimate Spiderman

this is coming from a paulcuck

Funny.

If that was the case, Silver would have won against him. Shadow resists the doom hax as Super Shadow in his own game. Mewtwo dies. And currently scales to Super Sonic in having reality manipulation negation.

Would be nice but retards insist on dumbass logic

Yes they did! In the Switch version of the game, Yuuma has the final story section and she not only fights and beats Flandre at the SDM but she also fights and beats Okina.

Plus Okina stopped them both, yuuma didn't win and flandre didn't lose. It's just game mechanics and playing as yuuma

Gameplay =/= Storyline canon feats.

Plus flandre beat her and literally stated she's stronger than yuuma to her fave, which yumma never denied.

Which of the oni are physically strongest?

Superman vs Hulk was voted for by fans. That one wasn't

>Plus flandre beat her and literally stated she's stronger than yuuma to her fave, which yumma never denied.

No she just slapped her vampire ass with her spork
Suika said Yuugi may be stronger than her, no clue who strong Kasen is (or was) comparably

Flandre since she and remilia are oni western sense(vampires). But have more weaknesses. She beat yuugi and stalemate okuu

No she just slapped her vampire ass with her spork

Nope, try harder

Superman vs Hulk, Wonder Woman vs Storm, Lobo vs Wolverine, Superboy vs Spider-Man and Batman vs Captain America were the ones decided by readers. Superman got his ass kicked by Venom fair and square

All the reasonable people left battleboarding behind long ago.
There's only 3 real tiers.

infinite

This character has infinite power/durability/speed. Few characters actually fit this criteria. The reason why so few characters fit this criteria is explained by the third tier.

finite

This character has finite power/durability/speed. Very many characters fit this criteria.

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This character is pointless to use in battleboarding. Their supposed feats make no sense in the context of their story. Having outerversal beyond fiction power beyond concepts is fucking retarded, and this character has no respect for math. You can't have an aleph 1 power level or blow up aleph 1 universes, cardinals weren't made for that. They literally do not operate for things like that, it's meaningless, there's no functional difference between countable and uncountable infinities on any actual scale.

Krypto in Death Battle? What insane scaling is that doggy getting?

It's called holding back.

is there a clear cut timeline though? there was a 7-8 year timeskip for TTGL and Simon was definitely still piloting Gurren Lagann during all that, but it's still obvious that Kyle is still in his potential man phase. So I don't know what to make of this

It's called a stat check, son.

Being honest here, I have a bias towards characters in fiction that follow serial escalation over episodic escalation. So I give MUI Goku multi-universal, but only give a non-amped Superman multi-planetary.

he held back his throat's durability while being choked by Venom's negacum tentacles

Goku and Superman? Sub-sonic fodder.

Yeah, Venom was holding back from completely humiliating the boy scout

And even then, his patience has limits.

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Yes, supermsn could vaporized venom and the entirety of new York if he wished. He would of eventually escape venom goo grasp but plot needed spidey save since company mascots and all that

And Sonic the Hedgehog I see as planetary as Super Sonic.

Superman has more patient in his pinky than both of them combined

Let me tell you how this moronic slop made for 13yrolds by a pedophile wins a Death battle

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Don't you have some Pakistanis to kill, Rajesh?

BITCHdre is so weak that GOATma can't even force her to stop and she has to spare her

yup yup

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Symbiotes own capeshit.

Shadow never resists any mindhax as Super Shadow.
In fact Shadow Gens confirms it works on him still.
Also Silver never has any mind control powers. He can only give people vertigo with esp in Rivals, which also works 100% on Shadow and can be used at any time.

Mewtwo just beats the shit out of Shadow, dude. There’s nothing he can do about it. Mewtwo’s out of his league. That’s why they downgraded him to Ryuko.

reddit

Flandrebros...

Their supposed feats make no sense in the context of their story

This is more or less my perspective on judging power; I'm pretty dismissive of things which undermine the story/setting or what happens in the story. This kind of makes video games a little hard to judge because story is below gameplay in terms of priority.

the little girl I'm attracted to is stronger than the little girl you're attracted to!

Do toohoobros really?

tdlr

Apple and Flandre > Wimpma due to okina saying so

touhou power levels are serious business

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Your spelling is atrocious, do you know that?

Shadow got mindcontrolled in both games it’s been used against him, and needed to waste a whole cutscene trying to resist because Black Doom wanted to enslave him. His willpower’s too weak to nosell. In a fight any hesitation at all will get you killed, and unfortunately Mewtwo’s just way better at mindhax too.

COPE
This is another win for the Gouyoku Alliance.

Counterpoint, shadow has power bestowel in super form, if he can resist mindhax, he will resist mind hax. Mewtwo is back in the tank as a destroyed fetus.

KWAB!

For all the squawking Shadow fans do about wanting him to get respect or whatever, I wonder why they want to rehash that particular match instead of rematching Vegeta or going for a heavy hitter with thematic connections like Cosmic Venom

Tdlr

Super form > Mewtwo

You mope

10 years ago, Touhou battleboarders set the top tiers at galaxy level, so them being elevated to their current levels of wank now at least tracks with how their tiermates the Skyfathers have been upgraded.

What thematic match ups are there for Belos in Touhou, anyways? Byakuren for the contrasts?

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Power bestowal doesn’t give you mindhax resistance. Also Shadow’s “resistance”, as we established, is very weak. And as we established, Mewtwo’s teepathy is much stronger than Doom’s, and has bypassed resistances before. Much stronger ones than Shadow *whimpers and cries for 5 minutes about muh-ria*s ones

There’s just nothing Shadow can do here. He’s blown out too easily.

You still whining huh

Tldr
Mindrape > supercuck form

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Mewtwo makes then forget what a super form and breathing is

Gg