X-Fags unironically use terms like Race Traitor, Flatscans and Homo Superior

death to muties

Fags unironically use term

Agreed. Anon Babble fags like to use "unironic" even though it's rarely heard in common everyday speech among adults. Popular with the kids though.

unironic

I caught myself saying that too much so now I just say "genuine" or "genuinely"

You do realise that when as a group you are oppressed and discriminated against simply for existing then it creates resentment and bitterness that makes you more prone to adapt similar language used against your oppressors, right? Or that might you like using homo superior just as a way to tell the bigots to fuck off.

oppressed and discriminated against simply for existing

No one has ever been oppressed just for existing.

Hate mutie men. Love mutie women.

Are you enjoying your straw man, you fucking schizo?

So many cuties... lost...

anon this is the wrong site for you to actually have an intellectual discussion like that, it's mostly just retards and man-children here

Inhomo supremis

This is probably the most realistic part of the whole thing. The wokies do the same thing.

Thanks for immediately proving my point.

oppressed and discriminated against simply for existing

Of the two major political positions within the mutant cultural sphere, one calls for violent conquest, oppression, and subjugation of humanity while the other advocates a Great Replacement strategy secured by violence against those who oppose it.

Post the page where Magneto is basically saying 'You vill own nusink und like eet.'

As a group, they were represented by a bunch of evil supremacist twats that outright called themselves "homo superior" before you even knew they existed enough to hate them, a group of rich evil supremacist twats who use their money to oppress both you AND their own kind, and a group that seems to exist solely to kick both of those group's shit in while also preventing the authorities from bringing them to jail for all the evil shit they've done cause "mutants solve mutant problems". While very occasionally the mention of what may be literal CHUDs also happens to enter the discussion.

And now all of those people are friends and saying they hope you and everyone you know die out to make way for "the superior race". And that you're oppressing them just by existing and not dying out already.

Bigot.

The correct way to propagandize for mutant rights

We're all gonna make it! Your kids will be hot supermodels with super powers traveling the stars!

The message that was chosen

We're all gonna kill you, mush you, freeze you, put you in a death camp!

The best part is that the dude in charge is literally telepathic and has a machine that lets him live check how his propaganda works on the mind of people he's trying to sway.

NOOOOO! NOT CAPITALISM AT WORK!

I'd tell you to eat shit but you probably can't afford it, renter.

Seething flatscat lmao

A major flaw in the book is that the international economics of Krakoa don't make any sense. They have exactly one export and don't import anything. Their only export is a drug that has several claimed benefits that can't be tested within the timespan of the story and except for certain use cases isn't a maintenance drug. Their only protection from competition was attempted genocide. Even if we assume that Krakoa replaced the entire global pharmaceutical industry, that would amount to ~$1.6 trillion dollars annually or roughly the equivalent of Mexico.

6 million mutants

What does flatscan even mean?

They have exactly one export and don't import anything.

This was addressed. They use the warp gates to rob convenience stores around the world for food and toiletry. I'm not even joking.

Holy shit, the writers really couldn't make Krakoa look like a more repellent blight on the planet if they tried. No wonder normies were cheering when that shithole burned down

tapping

lol that scene was specifically filmed like Magneto is a catty queen and Mystique as his fag hag

The drugs were given away free of charge on the condition of diplomatic recognition of Krakoan sovereignty. It wasn't a for-profit enterprise.

mystique munches carpet

lol that scene was specifically filmed like Magneto is a catty queen and Mystique as his fag hag

Wait really?

No, they were double-dipping. They gave the drugs to countries recognizing Krakoan sovereignty in exchange for essentially immunity and freedom to do whatever they wanted, AND also sold that shit on the black market for a profit to people in countries that didn't swallow the M pill. Though the books kept contradicting that by the fact none of the writers could coordinate on if the Hellfire Company was giving that shit out for free or using the "profits" of the drug sales to suppress bad publicity.

It's admittedly been a few years since I checked out of the status quo pretty early after HoXPoX, but seriously? How does that make any sense? How can you have a diatribe about using economics to control the world when you don't engage in economic activity?

Krakoa more or less did the Saudi strat. They made capital on a single export and used the money and leverage to invest in other things to spread the money. They were also doing all sorts of under the table money moves via Xavier/Frost/Shaw. It's not all explained in one book, you had to read the annoying shit like Marauders and X-Force

I got a mugga pass from Quire

Same way you can have a book where the protagonists keep sniggering about how they're the future and they're going to outbreed humanity while simultaneously malding how nobody likes them and that mean evil racist robots keep trying to kill them. Basically, shit goes however the writer needs it to go to keep the plot trains running, logic be damned.

Yeah, X2 has a bit of a gay undertone running through it, like framing Iceman explaining being a mutant to his parents being depicted like coming out of the closet
Magneto and Mystique are literally huddled in the corner laughing and giggling while pointing out Rogue's hair(which he caused), it's a very silly little moment
youtube.com/watch?v=d00Q6gI7PhQ&ab_channel=T-VirusTerrance

Yeah i can see it now...

Krakoa more or less did the Saudi strat.

Selling drugs, doing crime and having WMDs is the Nork strat. The Saudi strat is becoming the pump that keeps the dollar flowing through the global economy while also sitting on a major choke point of global shipping.

isn't a maintenance drug

It was, though. In the issue where Magneto is explaining their economic plan one of the humans at the dinner says their scientists don't believe the drugs need to be taken more than once and Magneto explains that it does and even if it didn't, they would still sell it like it does because that's the lesson economics has taught them. Do you even read the things you criticize or are you parroting something a tiktoker said as they poorly recounted the story with bad English and inaccurate subtitles?

You scan someone for mutant gene, the scan doesn't react. It's flat. A flat scan. Flatscan.

It was the humans who came up with homo superior and popularised it in the first place to demonise mutants

Various mutates, gods and general hero population: We are here to help. Let us explain the current situation to the world help fix damages and generally not act like assholes.

Mutants: Well, fellow superior race! We saved the day from someone who might have made us look bad. Let us flee this scene back to our secret enclave before anyone shows up asking annoying questions about this kid who randomly sneezed and leveled a city block hurting hundreds of people in the process.

Humans have mutants children so it’s normal evolution

They still don't breed true, with mutants still as likely to have normal powered non-mutant children with each other and other humans, and even then it used to be implied mutants stared popping up not because of some in-born destiny but because of the rise of nuclear radiation plants in society aka a far more realistic evolutionary response to an environmental change. They're as likely to inherit the earth as all the robots created and all the half-alien hybrids from humanity fucking skrulls and kree and whatever else left and right.

They're as likely to inherit the earth as all the robots created and all the half-alien hybrids from humanity fucking skrulls and kree and whatever else left and right.

Well you gotta make an effort if you plan to get anywhere any time soon.

Considering how many futures have them still stuck where they are or otherwise going extinct, I think their lack of planning is precisely why they get so much shit.

They really can't go extinct because they're literally mutants. They'll pop up again whenever the environment's right again as long as humans or human-hybrids are present.

Which is why the Sentinels always inevitably decide that the only way to eliminate the threat of mutants is to exterminate all of humanity so none can ever be born again.

Depends on if we're talking about the actual definition of mutants or X-gene mutants. Cause the latter is 100% true, humanity's crossed that bridge ages ago and they're never going back. The X-men specific mutants though, the ones with an explicit separate "X-gene" in them, have outright died out in more than one future or just otherwise never overtaken humanity like they keep saying they would whether that's from them staying on the margins or the definition of "humanity" changing so much that they no longer stand out and just become one of numerous homo sapiens sub-species running aorrund.

*the former, my bad
But for real, the x-gene mutants keep getting retconned into earlier and earlier stages of Earth's development, and they still keep dying out. Doesn't speak well of their track record that regular homo sapiens keeps overtaking them.

This has always bothered the fuck out of me. I get mutant hate, I like it as an angle. It makes sense that if a subset of the population could have completely arbitrary powers ("My power is i am a toad." "My power is I can make your skeleton crawl out of your urethra and avenge itself on the living") that people would be scared and there'd be panics and shit. No problem there.

(Though I'd like it a lot more if almost every mutant didnt have an incredibly destructive power; by rights like 90% of them should have something completely useless and at best neutral; 'my skin can change colour' or 'I look like a fucking monstrosity' or 'Jubilee' so that those with powers are just the exceptional ones protecting the suffering majority).

But it makes no sense in a world which has other superpowered people - often with powers of unclear or nonpublic backstories for a long time - which have been around for decades and whom are just treated as normal.

Like Captain America might have been fighting the nazis in WW2 with a robot, a man made out of fire, fucking vampires or aliens or whatever, but it's mutants which give people second thoughts? Just weird.
Like is spiderman a mutant? No one seems to think so, I guess because he wasnt born with it. He's a trans-mutant which doesn't count i guess. And good old Richard Fantastic is right over there! And there! And there! And he's fine, a goold old fashioned american as apple pie homo sapien is our Fantastic, despite him currently being 300 feet long and wrapped around a bus next to his invisible wife

Richard Fantastic

Did your brain misfire and make you think his given name is Richard?

Dick Fantastic

Oh yeah, he's Mr Fantastic or Reed Richards. Honestly don't know shit about Fantastic 4, just picked him as an example of someone weird. Now I think about it the only other thing i know about him is he's a possibly amoral genius superscientist. Why the fuck is he *Mr* Fantastic? DId he not get his doctorate?

But it makes no sense in a world which has other superpowered people - often with powers of unclear or nonpublic backstories for a long time - which have been around for decades and whom are just treated as normal.

Yes it does. Read a fucking a comic. The Avengers work WITH the governments of the world. The Fantastic Four are public figures. Both teams help fix the damage they cause. Both teams explain shit to people so they can be understood. You know what the real problem with mutants are? They're assholes and there's too much mystery surrounding them. It's random. You're in line at the store one day, cough and boom the whole area is irradiated. But what happens next? X-men and Magneto show up and fight over who gets to call dibs on you for their own war. Then they fuck off back to their hideouts and seethe about people calling them out for making a mess and if the X-men do explain things they share the same super villain rhetoric the bad guys they fight do. You think nobody ever complained about the Avengers? You think the Fantastic Four never got in trouble? There are entire papers out to get Spider-man personally. Read the goddamn comics.

Richard Fantastic

You're a fucking idiot.

Dick Fantastic

This is why despite their age, people should read some of the old Lee-Kirby era comics, cause the X-men are rightfully NOT the only ones given shit by the populace

Original Human Torch outright freaks people out because he is literally on fire and can kill people if he's not careful

Namor rightfully treated as a blight upon the surface world until he joined up with Captain America

Fantastic Four regularly freaked people out when they used their powers in public, especially Thing who got shot at more than once and Johnny Storm who almost got shot down by the air force

Daredevil occasionally treated like a lunatic for how he would bust heads than acrobat away

Hulk outright hunted by the army

Iron Man outright had to change up his armor because the populace freaked out on seeing a walking armory trundling up to them

Spider-Man because lol Daily Bugle

The X-men at least had a secret base to hide out in, a good chunk of Marvel's heroes were otherwise on their own with this shit

I'm more and more convinced that X-fags only read X-shit.

Been a joke in the comics community since the late 90's-early 00's.

Learning just how much shit Marvel superheroes deal with as a whole really puts a lot of the things the X-men complain about into perspective. Hell, Scarlet Witch arguably had more direct confrontations with racism against mutants than the X-men did for a while since they had Xavier giving them a shelter to live out civilian lives while she was a public figure and the known mutant on the Avenges team and couldn't escape the daily hate mail or public outcries to boot her from the Avengers. And it got worse when she married a robot. Outright had her house burnt down and chased out of a neighborhood by both people who hated mutants AND people who hated robots.

Every time I hear some mutant complain about Genosha I just want to slap them in the face about the time Kang nuked Washington or Ultron.

They seem to hate it when people ship mutants with humans or mutates. I noticed this while reading the comments on Marvel Rivals fanart. They bring up some fling from 20 years ago or argue that the mutant in the art is too gay coded to criticize the artist.

They hate it when mutants want to be seen as more than just mutants. X-fags have become absolutely mental. At first it was just kind of petty fanboyism. My super hero team is cooler than your super hero team. That kind of shit the past 10 years or so have been an absolute nightmare where the x-office and their fans seem to make it a personal vendetta against the rest of the industry and fandom.

Kang nuking a city is just another generic disaster in 616. Genosha meanwhile was a deliberate, successful nation wide hate crime.

Maybe Hank Pym shouldn't have invented a robotbot with his own brainwaves

The mutants are about to be introduced in the MCU, where heroes rarely have their own corner for long. We’ll likely see more mutants in non X-related teams due to synergy. I wonder if the X-Office will manage to block it. I think they had to make a strange trade-off to let Storm into the Avengers.

that's actually kinda cute, got more?

Kang nuking a city was a prelude to invading the planet and executing innocent people the whole world over. Including mutants.

Genosha for its entire existence was a top-heavy tyrannical third-world shithole that had a worse reputation than Latveria and Madripoor combined, whether it was because it was the mutant equivalent of Epstein island via outright enslavement of the mutant populace or lead by an insane supremacist who regularly induced genocidal waves first against the remaining humans and then against any mutants who opposed him.

Not that it was even a hate crime so much as an insane spiritual parasite using some dipshit wasteoid to basically blow up an island to personally make Xavier sad. She just happened to do it to a place that nobody would shed a goddamn tear for, save the X-men.

And similar events happen all the time to various degrees on a regular basis.

Yeah, which makes Genosha being blown up no big deal, right? Cause shit blows up all the time in Marvel, after all.

Except Genosha was specifically targeting mutants with the sole intention of wiping them out with weapons that exist solely to kill mutants.

Glass houses

Just like Kang was targeting Washington DC with the intention of wiping out every single inhabitant with weapons that exist solely to kill humans

See how stupid this shit is? Shit like Kang blowing up Washington DC just to terrify the UN into giving in to his reign of terror, Ultron outright massacring an entire nation, Genosha being nuked to oblivion, Beast's plant tech swallowing Terra Verde whole, the time Namor outright drowned most of New York in a fit of rage, all of them are tragedies and should be treated as such by the characters. Which is why it should be massively insulting whenever any of the X-men vomit up another "But muh Genosha", as though their specific trauma supersedes anyone else's, and if Americans can be told to shut the hell up about 9-11 for how long they've been going on about it then people should rightfully tell X-men fanboys to shut the fuck up about Genosha already, as though mutants themselves wouldn't ever do a hate crime themselves, considering all the times Magneto's hijacked nuclear subs and tried slamming asteroids onto the planet.

And Ultron was specifically targeting humans. Kang was specifically targeting people he intended to enslave and kept in camps. Genosha's not special. And HATE CRIME is just the motivation. That doesn't make the actual crime any more or less bad.

At least Ultron isn't racists.

Pretty sure he's racist against organics.

I didn't realize Onslaught was an intentional creation

He was exactly as intentional as Ultron was.

mass murder is one thing buddy, but RAYCIZM?!

now that's just a step too far!

I really hope you're just b8ing.

Nah, he doesn't see race at all, just people who need to die and be stacked into a pyre, so that the bonfire of corpses can be spotted from space and that the flames can be seen as a red haze in the night sky from at least a third of the globe.

anon Ultron's entire deal is that he loathes the human RACE

So you believe Hank Pym accidently built a robot and then gave it his brain patterns?

Yes, he's completely race-blind.

he's the "I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally" type

Hank Pym wasn't aware of how successfully he had been socialized and had suppressed his disdain for plebs until he copy-pasted his brain into that robot, at least.

He built a robot with the intention of making a robot. That it immediately turned itself on without his input, immediately went insane, attacked him, and then decided to conquer the world was as foreseeable as someone eating a bowl of cereal causing a city to blow up. And as hilarious as it is to dunk on Hank Pym for how absolutely shitty his life is, Ultron at least was just the Marvel universe deciding to be a dick at that specific moment rather than Hank fucking it up by being himself.

I believe he meant no harm when he made Ultron when he gave him his brain patterns and not being a neurologist or fully aware of his own mental health problems it went bad. Xavier meant a great deal of harm when he took Magneto's and him being an expert on mental shit should have been prepared for problems that may have arisen.

Mindwipes aren’t known to cause an entirely new non-corporeal consciousness to be born

That's because Xavier didn't know how to do that and Nate Grey accidentally taught him how when he ripped Xavier's Astral form into physical reality. Basically showed Onslaught how to make themselves a body

mutants dont let Deadpool on Krakoa

state that its because they see him as to unpredictable and dangerous

Lol remember when the rest of Marvel called them hypocrites and pointed out thats why people dont like mutants? No? Thats because they didn't even though they are in fact hypocrites.

When I was younger I used to be pro-mutant. Then we realised that some mutants just get reality warping schizophrenia and a mile wide aura of flesh eating bacteria. Mutant hatred becomes entirely justified when out of nowhere a child turns into a nuclear bomb, and the mutant scholars offer no way to curb these random events.
Especially in modern day politics.
Mutant powers are basically uncontrolled guns and we all know how much they hate guns. Why is mutant control any different from gun control in their eyes?
Which is a little hypocritical of me because I'm Pro-gun, but anti-mutant; a Gun needs to be made and taken and shot wheras a mutie can just blink and wipe out a stadium.

I believe

Well! There you go, indisputable proof!

Ultron at least was just the Marvel universe deciding to be a dick at that specific moment rather than Hank fucking it up by being himself.

So you realize it's all scripted when you're trying to defend it?

It's not that I especially hate mutants but it's like we're not supposed to even acknowledge the potential threat they represent. You're not allowed to be scared of Bacteria Bomb Lad. There needs to be a middle ground between complete acceptance and absolute fear. And the X-men are doing just as much damage in that regard by refusing any compromise. The X-men don't even take into consideration the feeling of most mutants. There's supposed some number of thousands of them but their school elected themselves as kings of the race. That they're even a race at all was purely their own statement. They refuse to acknowledge dangerous mutations even for the mutant who owns its own well being.

Let's not also forget that the vast majority of mutants DON'T want to be mutants and are prevented from being cured because of militant mutant supremacists like X-men

This is really kind of what sets me off about the whole AvX thing. I mean just being a shit story. The X-men decide there needs to be mutants but it's not just repowering those who lost it or who want it. It's about forcing mutation on an unsuspecting world and even if their school was up and running at maximum efficiency they would be completely and utterly unable to find and help every person whose life they just destroyed. That is not a good guy stance. I feel like if this was the 80s Cyclops would be trying to stop Apocalypse or someone from doing this kind of shit. Like a super hero.

A bunch of elitist dicks on both sides have chosen that they're the leaders of a faction and determine the course of everyone else even if it's contrary to the well being of other people who share the trait.
My God do X-fags sound more and more like an analogy for Minority Positive groups every day. I was talking to a homosexual associate the other day and he drops the word "homonormative discourse". There are elite fags telling fags how to fag and ruining it for the other fags.

I'm saying I don't blame Hank Pym for that shit anymore than I blame Xavier for accidentally creating Onslaught. Sometimes, shit happens in comics.

But Hank chose to built a robot. Chose to give it free will. Then chose to give it his own brain and was surprised that it had a massive ego that led to millions dead.

See this is why the mutant shit only ever worked as a secondary allegory. It's mostly super heroes fighting aliens and robots and shit and sometimes you think about something.

Much like Xavier got tired of Magneto's shit and actually took action to shut him down once and for all by wiping his brain. Then got surprised Magneto's pure mutant autism continued to live inside his brain and outright meld with his own dark lust for teen Jean, which then evolved into a violent tulpa that went on to appear in a Capcom fighting game as a final boss.

The entire Xman ecosystem system collapses if you put more thought into it, especially with respect to the greater marvel universe even just earth wide. Even just America. The themes they want to imbue into the characters don't work when the opresssed people can, at any point, cause lasting infrastructure damage and bring the economy to a standstill.
Magneto can't be opressed because with 1% of his power he can both sense and collapse the electrical grid of any nation who opposes him and crippled anti-mutant infrastructure.

It take some impressive mental gymnastics to describe that as "much like".

making up people to be mad at

OP sounds like a mutie whose superpower is mental projection.

The themes they want to imbue into the characters don't work when the opresssed people can, at any point, cause lasting infrastructure damage and bring the economy to a standstill.

Apart from all the genocidal murder machines around that can kill them at the drop of a hat and have successfully killed and rounded them up for death camps

Forgetting that by the time said machines get to that point, normal humans are getting thrown into the camps with the mutants.

Opposite. When you read comic books, you have to accept on some level that absolutely horrible shit happens in ways to characters that only seem obvious in hindsight. Like dating all the way back to the first appearance of the Hulk. Like, it should have been beyond obvious that fucking around with gamma radiation in the form of a bomb was going to lead to bad shit, but the idea Bruce Banner should have expected it'd mutate him into Big Green is laughable. Or how Peter Parker could have foreseen that letting that one burglar escape would be bad for his karma, but the idea that he should have intuited said burglar would immediately zip to his house to shoot his uncle dead as a result is asinine.

Hank Pym making a robot by the conventions of the time based off his brainwaves is the kind of thing a reader would immediately intuit is a bad idea cause, well, that's how comics go. And you can argue that he should have built-in a failsafe. But I don't know how Hank Pym should have somehow expected the thing to outright activate itself and decide to kill all humans before he ever touched it or programmed a single thing into it. That's the equivalent of your pet rock deciding to go genocidal one day out of the blue.

"Was really hot, but then turned into a frog"-boy

"Kills everybody she touches and absorbs their powers"-girl

"We can have our lives back!"

"Can build anything I can imagine as a working machine"-boy

"Literal god of storms"-girl.

"RAYCISM! RAYCISM! SIX GORILLIONS!"

Never mind that the USA is literally already hunting them with giant purple autonomous killer robots.

The United States has multiple times built and had enormous Sentinel arsenals

Funded multiple times by the Hellfire Club. Which, surprise, are run by mutants looking to exploit all the mutant racism to get richer and keep their political power.

But I don't know how Hank Pym should have somehow expected the thing to outright activate itself and decide to kill all humans before he ever touched it or programmed a single thing into it. That's the equivalent of your pet rock deciding to go genocidal one day out of the blue.

A pet rock that you taught to think exactly like you think. Your arguement is that Hank didn't know himself. I agree that he didn't and that's exactly why he should have never done what he did.

Yeah so the argument “well they don’t have enough killer robots so whatever ” is bullshit

Pym was pretty certain that he had never tried to build a giant stack of corpses as a statement piece, I understand.

Your arguement is that Hank didn't know himself.

Very few people truly know themselves. And are often blind to major personal flaws. That's like the entire anchor point of tragedy. He shouldn't of done it but he didn't see that. That's the point. And even if Ultron 1 did go sideways he was pretty limited in scope of what he could, to anyone's knowledge, really do.

Well, now we all know that he is capable of it, right?

Which makes it even funnier that they keep giving him shit for the one time he slapped his wife.

Your arguement is that Hank didn't know himself. I agree that he didn't and that's exactly why he should have never done what he did.

Yes, anon, that is precisely the reason Hank Pym keeps blaming himself for Ultron's shit long past the point it's tolerable for the reader, thank you for showing reading comprehension 101.

I'm the Anon who understands that, you should be pointing it out to the Anon who is arguing against it. You know... if you had the reading comprehension

Why do people shit on Hank for slapping his wife once and give Cyclops a free pass for far more serious domestic abuse?

Or you could just not be retarded and say nothing.
Statements don't need a "this statement is true:" before every line. It is assumed to be true unless specified otherwise.

Cause people hate Ant Man, and it took a while for him to own up to the fact he hit her, instead malding about how much of his life he screwed up until he got the nuts to apologize to Janet. Cause everyone at the time thought he was in full control of his mental faculties, Hank included, and the recognition that he was going through a chemical-induced mental breakdown was only thought up long afterwards.

But his point wasn't intelligent. He basically said "mutants are allowed to throw autistic tantrums because some dude was bigoted against them".
What's the intelligent discussion to be had from that? The only option is to call the anon retarded.

I feel like genocidal robot armies become justified when you can literally wipe out all agriculture on the planet or disconnect a hospital from a power grid just to prove a point. With 0.01% of power.
If magneto was half as smart as he needed to be, you just shut down the mines feeding material to the sentinel plants.

Asguardian/alien citizens generally don't randomly explode with the force of a nuclear bomb or turn all oxygen to hellium in a 50 mile radius

Reading the comics from that period again I'm actually surprised how sympathetic to Hank they are after all of that actually. It's really only modern era that treats him like complete shit for it. It's not like they laughed it off or anything but they were really focused on getting him mental help because they understood what the problem actually was. Jarvis especially went to bat for him when newer Avengers would try and slag him.

Yet you only use them to hunt and kill mutants while humans doing that shit just get prison sentences

It's a really strange dichotomy. On the one hand killer robots bad. On the other hand they keep wanting to make mutants super powerful badasses who do shit like this.

No, Asgardians bring eternal magic winter and aliens bring giant invading armies to blow shit up

You do realise that when as a group you are oppressed and discriminated against simply for existing

This is so disingenuous, but you probably genuinely believe that people don't hate mutants because of all the terrorism and killings, they don't hate them because most of their "community leaders" are terrorists and supremacists, they don't hate them because they're legitimately dangerous, no, it's "just for existing". You absolute tool.

By this logic every human is genocidal madman because some humans commit genocidal acts

Just like I hate all men for being murdering pedophiles and rapists that rob and beat up people for no reason

By this logic every human is genocidal madman because some humans commit genocidal acts

The key difference is that Kang didn't do it because his glasses fell off. Honestly it's like X-fags hear the arguments but don't actually listen to them.

To be fair, the comics keep going on and on about how "harmless" most mutants are, but the focus is primarily on the 5% of them that absolutely are not harmless, aka the superheroes and supervillains. Which kind of underminds their whole attempt to paint mutants as misunderstood and not nearly as dangerous as people think they are, but that's more a problem with the book's format than anything intrinsic to mutants themselves.

Now you're thinking like a Calvinist.

They said they would let him visit Krakoa so long as he played by the rules. They just wouldn't let him become a permanent resident of the main island.

I'm more and more convinced that X-fags only read X-shit.

And tell each other never to read anything from before 1975, so they have no context for how things started or what the characters were originally like.

Eventually this started bleeding through to things the writers do, with a lot of them acting like mutants were a known thing pre UXM #1, or Aaron's Heroes Reborn event where he seemed to think Wanda and Pietro were genuinely villains before they joined the Avengers.

That kind of shit the past 10 years or so have been an absolute nightmare where the x-office and their fans seem to make it a personal vendetta against the rest of the industry and fandom.

It's awful how many comics writers in the last 20-ish years have been perfectly normal on other books but just seem to go insane on the X-books, pandering to those kind of fans.

To be fair, half the reason he expected them to bend the rules is because he's bent over backwards so much to help them and considers himself one of them. Which is precisely why he acted like a prick to be told "Mutants only", since he's an emotionally needy weirdo who has a hard time with rejection, and as shown later on the X-men have zero problems exploiting him for help despite repeatedly telling him that he can't live with them or be considered one of them.

The x-men don't come out looking as good in that explanation as you think they do.

So you believe Hank Pym accidently built a robot and then gave it his brain patterns?

That brain patterns part is a dumb retcon from 30 years later, and in the original story, Ultron comes to life before Hank even activated him. Originally Hank was just trying to build a robot, and a pretty low-tech one by the standards of the time, but things went horribly wrong.

What makes it especially funny is that Wade isn't even physically capable of that, but the Omega-level mutants they collect like Pokemon can totally pull it off.

Trust me, I know they don't. If anything, I wanted to emphasize how absolutely scummy the X-men were being in that instance despite it being seemingly reasonable to want as little to do with Wade as physically possible. Especially cause they have no problem bringing him onto X-Force later.

Historically, trying to forcibly turn people into mutants just to army-build henchmen for the race war was a Silver Age Magneto plot that he tried a number of times, it's even his scheme in the first movie.