superhero families are retarded
Superhero families are retarded
Superman
Retarded because he's supposed to be the last of his kind.
Batman
Retarded because he's a brooding loner.
The Bat family is the dumbest.
It's just a sales gimmick, like events and variant covers.
The only problem I have with them is that they keep taking characters that have their own areas and supporting casts and bringing them in to main hero's area so they can be the supporting cast. For example Batwing used to be in Africa and Super-Man used to be in China. Then they went to Gotham and Metropolis respectively.
God, imagine how depressing it would be to be a member of the "arrow family" when the batfamily and superfamily are right there.
The Bat family makes sense, or at least parts of it do. Alfred and Robin were always highly iconic Batman members.
Maybe it's because I read more Green Arrow comics where he is teaming up that going solo, so I don't see a problem of the extended family for him.
I like how the Batfamily has gotten so large and connected with other Gotham heroes that there's like dozens of them, yet the city is STILL a crime ridden shithole.
Supermans is the worst because its gotten out of hand. He’s got kids who are so far off on their own thing he doesn’t even interact with them anymore. DC couldn’t be arsed to stop using some or even to put a cap on how many are being created and brought back. Now we've got like 15 different people running around with Supes logos. Its so fucking retarded, that it’s completely turned me off the book.
What makes it even worse, is that they keep pumping them out while offering them zero personality or reason to even remember them
3 different fucking Batgirls running around because DC was retarded enough to listen to twitter trannys and Gail Simone.
What the fuck are we even doing anymore, these characters exist just to occasionally get added to splash pages and group shots. They literally dont even do anything in the comics
This criticism is weak, Gotham is effectively New York, and marvel keeps like a third of it's notable heroes in NYC. and they have powers
Batman was a loner for less than a year
city with millions of inhabitants
20 people dont change that
No shit?
Retarded because he's supposed to be the last of his kind.
they tried doing that post-crisis by removing supergirl and krypto
but it ended up being a terrible decision because people actually liked the super family
I agree, though I can accept a few.
Batman
Bruce (Batman), Alfred, Robin (Dick Grayson, Batgirl (Barbara Gordon)
Superman
Clark (Superman), Kara (Supergirl), Ma & Pa Kent.
I honestly don't know enough about Green Arrow to comment, but based on the CW show he was better solo with Felicity as an Alfred/Oracle type character. Black Canary is hot, but I could also accept just him and Felicity with his Sister as a heavily coddled sidekick he's always reprimanding.
The Bat Family is the only one that makes sense.
1. The extended Bat Family does have a dedicated audience (Nightwing, Casandra, Barbara, etc.)
2. Batman was inspired by the Shadow who had a similar Kabal of servants.
3. Batman is a human and relies on his networking to work effectively.
4. It doesn't contradict the nature of the character.
At least Marvel makes it so that they interact and actually have individual personalities
Where the fuck has half of the Batfamily been in recent years? Has Blue Bird done anything or been involved in anything? Hows about Luke Fox? Batwoman?
They literally just exist to exist. They cant hold a book of their own. And most fucking suck shit because they have nothing note worthy about them.
Comparing them to Marvel and New Yorks stable of heroes is just dumb and disingenuous.
A lot of these Bat and Supes characters need to be pruned and forgotten of in a shitty event like Heros In Crisis.
Marvel's attempts at creating their own Spider family have been fucking hilarious. If they find a spider they like from another timeline or dimension they'll twist reality itself to retcon them into the main continuity.
2. Batman was inspired by the Shadow who had a similar Kabal of servants.
I just wish they'd go all in on this with Batman having a bunch of teenage/young adult foot soldiers. Instead they just nebulously exist most of the time
Where the fuck has half of the Batfamily been in recent years?
If they're not showing up, then what's the problem?
And Harper Row retired years ago. Even when Tynion was writing her she basically just became a civilian supporting cast member. She popped up recently int the Punchline book but that's more of a temp thing than meant to be permanent.
Killing them off for shock value , especially in an event, is schlocky. You can just quietly retire them or have them do other civilian things, especially since half of them are young enough they could just go to college.
dat robin
other than Miles everyone here is originally part of 616 (yes even Miguel because Marvel 2099 was originally planned to be the far future of 616 before spinning off into a different reality)
Remember when Anon Babble discovered that the Bat-Family has most of the typical characteristics of a cult? Good times.
I’m fine with Superhero families as long as they stop trying to fit all of them together on the same page. Separate titles exist for a reason, we don’t need everybody showing up for everything
I feel like you could find cult-like characteristics in any large group of people united under a cause or belief
Cass should be the only active Batgirl, Steph should have stayed as Spoiler.
The only Batgirl that matters is Barbara.
Get rid of all the Batgirls.
These three posts are the exact reason why we have three Batgirls running around right now
It's extremely funny. The Spider family was just Peter's supporting cast from three decades ago, not this trash
I agree.
Alex Ross Power Girl, may very well be the sexiest character ever drawn in a comic book.
I’m shocked the knee high boots never made the transition to mainline continuity, their that good of a design to me
Remember when Spider-Woman (both of them) were supposed to have no relation to Spidey so that they could have their own agency
Ehhhhh
If there were 20 people jumping through rooftops looking to beat me up, even if NY was that large, I'd consider just moving elsewhere to do the crime.
Retarded because he's supposed to be the last of his kind.
Except he isn’t because of Supergirl and Kandor has been a thing for longer than you’ve been alive, because all the people in the Phantom Zone still exist…
Retarded because he's a brooding loner.
Hasn’t been the case for over 80 years.
The idea of a Superman Family always seemed really stupid to me.
At least Marvel makes it so that they interact and actually have individual personalities
This is true with Superman and Batman affiliated characters as well.
Where the fuck has half of the Batfamily been in recent years?
Appearing in various stories and books.
Has Blue Bird done anything or been involved in anything?
Yes, if you actually read comics.
Hows about Luke Fox? Batwoman?
See above.
They literally just exist to exist.
No, they appear and appear in different books in varying degree.
They cant hold a book of their own.
Neither can majority of Marvel characters living in New York.
And most fucking suck shit because they have nothing note worthy about them.
Again, see above.
Comparing them to Marvel and New Yorks stable of heroes is just dumb and disingenuous.
Yes and you’re a moron for claiming somehow Marvel is better.
A lot of these Bat and Supes characters need to be pruned and forgotten of in a shitty event like Heros In Crisis.
Or you could just keep reading those books since all you do is whine about stupid shit and often make completely inaccurate and misleading claims that aren’t true.
i like Jessica
I like her butt, personality? Not so much. She was much better before Bendis brought her back from obscurity in the 00s
Which bat member raped the jonkler?
Superfamily is fine. Batfamily is retarded and needs serious trimming. You don't have to kill them off, but Duke, Steph, Cass, Helena need to go.Arrowfamily is whatever
Retarded because he's a brooding loner.
In virtually every story he has Alfred. So when has this ever been true?
Now THIS is retarded. Every fucking asshole getting spider powers or the universe bending over backwards to retcon some asshole from another dimension into the main Spider-Man's dimension is ridiculous. I fucking hate Spider-Verse shit.
In my head it should just go:
Peter Parker
The main, current, Spider-Man.
Mayday Parker
His daughter who inherited her powers and takes on the role of Spider-Girl.
Miguel O'Hara
The genetically modified Spider-Man from the far future (change it to 2199 at this point who cares) who ended up adopting the name because it's what people associated him with.
At the end of Hush 2, that shit, Batman will be lonely, the Batfam will become "Nightfam" (Bludhaven is already Cass' city, in Bludhaven there is the dick that Babs sits on and Steph will be wherever Cass is), Helena might show up there, it wouldn't be the first time. Tim is gay and goes to San Francisco and Jason goes to hell or goes back to being a villain, this middle ground doesn't work for anything.
Jason and Azrael need to go too.
Killing them off for shock value , especially in an event, is schlocky
And?
The Spider family was just Peter's supporting cast from three decades ago
Or Firestar and Iceman.
The idea of a Superman Family always seemed really stupid to me.
Having 10 Superman flying around breaks the setting. Where are the stakes if they have these guys, 10 Flashes, the GLC and the whole Justice League protecting Earth?
Jason and Azrael need to go too.
Nah they're cool. Nerds seem to hate Jason for some reason.
Jason doesn’t belong in the group, and honestly, it’s for his own good.
I like spidey squad, Peter's always been lame and square, now we got variant of.the character that are more violent, clumsy and down right funnier than Peter himself.
Peter's always been lame and square
Superman should have Supergirl and that's it. Peeg can be around but shouldn't interact with those two. Batman should have Alfred and one Robin. Dick can be Nightwing and occasionally pop up. Get rid of the others completely. Ollie can have a family but trim it down man.