Will even CAS fall to Anon Babble?
Death Battle
FUCK OFF!
Primetime has information regeneration (came back from being erased from the white page) like Simon
Primetime can transcend the narrative such that he sees the entire fight he was in against Batkek as fictional and wins with his girlfriend in the real world like Simon
Stated he could steal Batkek’s power and become omnipotent if he really wanted to, but rejected it to live a happy life
Prime is the only one in DC who could beat Simon.
Marvel > Godzilla = Mecha > DC
>The worst part is that if you assume the same logic they used in this episode for Simon (that he can 'leapfrog' several orders of magnitude above his own strength) for Asura, then you could have still had 900 million universe busting Kratos but Asura still would have actually won anyway
Wait, how?
outerversal
...is just fodder for kakeraversal characters.
Actually kind of a fun match thematically, though it is really one-sided. I know people were posting about the 10 billion suns thing but in that same issue CAS holds all of Limbo in his hand, and Morrison is the one who made the map showing it eclipsing the multiverse. Even if you argue anybody in the same location could do that CAS is sort of on that level fundamentally. Don't think Zero ever gets to that level.
When the FUARK will he fight?
Its been a whole month since KINGtos brought Anon Babble back from the dead
Remember to say "thank you my king" in gratitude of his mercy for us both believers and doubters
it took him like 2 minutes to start stomping Chakaravartin despite originally getting stomped beforehand
THIS is the strongest character in Death Battle history
Come on out Galactus, you big purple asshole!
that's not Justin Bieber
Can Simon fight Chuck Norris
Has to surpass pre defined limits
C'mon now...
Predator > Marvel > Godzilla = Mecha > DC
Can you surpass jobbing to a green rock though
IF YOU WANT TO GET TO SIMON YOU'LL HAVE TO GET THROUGH ME FIRST
Chuck Norris won't want anything to do with Simon because he's still fighting Segata Sanshiro
Shonen Jump > Marvel > Godzilla = Mecha > DC
DCeethe
homophobe
Simon wins
I can't believe all of Death Battle jobs to this DUMB, SMELLY, fucking BRAT!
Okay okay, nice cosmology and hax, BUT…
Can he beat Goku?
Yup.
gets his new mini-sized destructor form blocked and BTFO by Chakravartin’s finger
proceeds to grow so strong in the span of a few minutes that Chakravartin breaks his fucking arm trying to punch Asura’s face
no
their wish granting has no limits and can do ANYTHING the wielder wants with no constraints
WishDEITIES we have TRUE LIMITLESS POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ultimately, Simon VS Superman comes down to a difference of limits and purpose. What happens when you pit a man with the power to break any limits against a being with no limits in the first place? Well, only one has limits to give at all. But that's exactly what makes him such a memorable character.
Think about it. If you had a Simon that was as powerful as Superman, would you even want him?
The winner is Superman.
The character was stated to be stronger than Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, and the Anti Monitor just lost
But surely this character who was deemed not even worth mentioning can defeat him!
What is this called?
How do DCfags reconcile the fact that Simon rapes their entire verse? Especially that one tripfaggot in particular.
Hal...
Wile vs Tom is probably going to be the best fight of the season easily if it's at least on par with Courage vs Scooby
He beat Kyle who beats Superman who beats Goku, so according to scaling calculations, yes.
is omnipotent has true limitless power unlike FRAUDS who merely have infinite growth on their capped power and obvious easily exploitable weaknesses
Kneel.
You can see it ITT. All this superKEK cope.
gonna be hard to top bowser vs eggman
Post him destroying a planet.
DCeethe
kills Simon by waking up, because Simon was just a dream inside his head the entire time
But Godzilla was in Shonen Jump in the 90s...
Fairly OddparentsKINGS…….
Character stated to be stronger than Superman, Hal, Flash, Spectre, and Anti-Monitor
Superfags feel threatened
how's that glasshouse feel
no superpowers
no brainiac enhancements
no magical devices
just a regular human
still solves the anti life equation and held complete control over it
unlike kyle and his gorillion powers who couldn't control the life equation
Lex Luthor... I kneel
vsbattles.com
bugs isnt tier 1 anymore
his real world and animators he toys with are just another layer of its cartoon universe, not real life or transcendant
Kyle
Stronger than any of those characters
Nah
Comes back
Got another trick?
Meant for
I'M SIMON THE DIGGER! IF THERE'S A WALL IN MY WAY, I'LL SMASH IT DOWN!
GIGAAAAA DRILLLL BREEEEEEAAAK
When the time comes will you point your fingers at the screen to help Goku kill CAS Superman once and for all?
The Joker is more powerful than all those put together
Their upper limit for Kratos was 900 million universal (if you take their calc and assume Yggdrasil was 100% wood)
Their upper calc for Destructor Asura was 91000x universal
Chak BTFOs Destructor with just his finger and base Asura who's weak as shit and not even planet level somehow makes up the difference between his base and Destructor in literally a single combo
The difference between 'sub planet busting' and 91000x universal is literally dozens of orders of magnitude, well the fuck above the difference between Kratos's final strength and Asura's (900 million / 91000 = roughly 10000)
Also they pretended manga Asura's resurrection was bad and could be countered by separating his body parts when it sped up so fast that by halfway through he was capable of self-rezzing before he got knocked over, there was actually no way Kratos could've killed him given they were equal speeds.
This was literally the exact same fight as Simon vs Kyle, they just ignored the entire Chak fight and didn't use the same logic there that we now they CAN use to give Fraudtos the win
You see this character has no limits but he'd lose to a character who does have limits and needs time to surpass them
co takes DB research seriously?
Even Eru has antifeats. His song got corrupted by Melkor.
it's going to flop since it's getting 0 discussion
yes
If the animation is good then it'll do fine. Toon fights always do well.
ZalamaDIVINITIES...
Post Superman destroying a galaxy.
/dbg/ has never taken db seriously, the general is just a facade to talk about powerlevel discussions without getting banned
It'll get more discussion by the first preview, Simon being crowned the strongest fighter on DB and DC getting eternally assblasted is just a bit hard to pass up at the moment
Every Ainur is an aspect of Eru so that's really just a figment of Eru corrupting his own song btw
In these halls, we listen to and study DB's scholarly lecturing with the utmost attention.
But of course.
Ben and chad didnt plan on the audience spirit bomb being so beloved so they ordered their superman actor to shove goku out of the room
It showed that the people wanted goku to win and it made them sick.
Because we all know it's a Wile stomp
its not like that
its gonna be good and stuff, but there is nothing to be discussed in toonforce fights
DCfags don't look or you'll be scarred for life...
DCbucks really thought they could, huh?
As the saying goes: if you step to the king, you better not miss. And boy, did Kyle miss.
Shigaraki vs Mahito wasn't discussed at all here and it's the second best performing fight of the season. It will probably do fine and be a fun episode, there's just not loads to say.
What threat could POSSIBLY be strong enough to assemble a team of this MAGNITUDE?
Eru is an omnipotent and omnipresent God that's present everyone in the infinite LOTR universe which has space time hosting baryonic matter objects like stars and planets. Every time planets get destroyed in the LOTR universe (which would have to happen infinitely due to being an infinitely sized universe) it's actually Eru destroying planets as he's everywhere and present in every atom of his verse.
flying bois
Limitless power wishes might be a match for Plasma Pea's infinite energy....
Goku can't even beat Superman.
You did well, Kyle.
I'll never forget you for as long as I live.
Wouldn't Eru be at bare minimum universal if he's the size of an infinite universe that includes an endless void which Morgoth got exiled into?
Superfags feel threatened
BatGOD has a Tower of Babel anti-spiral power contingent plan ready
So you can't.........
Simon would forget who he was 2 minutes later.
Cuz he was a weakling
I don't.
Since DB doesn't pay me I have no incentive to accept their verdicts.
What's my incentive to accept their verdicts? Unless Ben and Chad can provide me a nice payment and dental care for endorsing their show I have no reason to accept DB's outcomes.
Never forget
S-STARWARS BROS?!?! WHY IS HELLO KITTY HIGHER THAN US?!?! EMERGENCY DISCORD MEETING NOW NOW NOOOOOW
The difference between 'sub planet busting' and 91000x universal is literally dozens of orders of magnitude
Yeah, this is insanely fucking funny to think about. Imagine being base Asura whose best feat is… not even popping Wyzen (since he was in another form then), Asura was around country to continent level at base, then over the fight against Chakravartin, became 91k universal in a few minutes according to DB. Just think about how skipping several tiers, magnitudes, and order of power and going straight into being 91k universal would look. Going from 91k to 900 million seems less than child’s play in comparison.
Hal heard that his Discord girlfriend is turning 16 tomorrow so he assembled the whole Corps to turn back time for her specifically
Have a taste of THIS green, ya nerf-herders!
Eru is still a logical omnipotent bound by the law of noncontradiction which no character has ever been shown to surpass via feats alone.
you can talk about how Tom has 0 advantage whatsoever and can't even get a pity draw
Just who the hell do I think this is?
-Simon probably
all that money and Pokemon games still look like they came out on a fucking PS2
Goku's universe gets destroyed
Stays gone forever
DCverse gets destroyed
Restarts again because the story of Supeman is just that powerful
Wow goku really is a chump
I HAVE THE BEST WIFE IN THE UNIVERSE
That still means he's more powerful than characters with caps on their power they need to surpass since they can run out of energy.
Westerners are rich whales. DBSpics are poor indentured servants to a bunch of sephardic jews
restoring a 2D universe
This is least impressive feat you can imagine.
It just doesn't feel the same
Tom vs Wile E back and forth doesn't have that same oomph that Kyle vs Simon had
It feels less unhinged and more boring
anon you have no wife
To be fair, the green lanterns lasted the most. Unlike kekperman and his group of jobbers
Luke had so much aura when he beat down Vader in ROTJ that I'd believe him taking on a Lantern
of course because its just toons beating each other again
kyle vs simon had everything going for it to be exciting and fun shitshow
hell even master chief vs doomslayer had more spice than coyote vs tom
The least impressive feat is DC's source possibly being destroyed by Batkek's finite energy
Reminder that it was Dayakka piloting the Dai-Gunzan that said this about his wife Kiyoh, not Simon and Nia. Even the rope-swinging move came from him.
I'm honestly going to miss the waiting period for Simon vs Kyle
The sheer mental illness and shitposting on display was a kind of fun that I don't think we'll see again in a while
It just feels kind of empty now
No joke, I once had a dream that I met Bugs Bunny. I've met Zeus, Darkseid, the Ghost Rider, Yamcha, even Yujiro Hanma in my dreams. And let me tell you I've never been more scared than when I met Bugs
Which still means he can be surpassed.......
Sadly there's a lot of Poe's law here, I really believe many weirdos here are being unironical with their whole bullshit power levels.
At least is not TV Tropes nor Reddit but still.
the retarded 11D wanked chief posting was also fun but kyle vs simon takes the cake
god these were such fun weeks to be a death battle fag
Not by characters who have never demonstrated illogical omnipotence via feats aka every fictional character.
Remember when DCfags thought Kyle could pull that white space crap with Ion and beat Simon's ass? how do you think they felt when they saw Simon punch Kyle's arm so hard it exploded.
b-b-but batman trained him
lol
...other than suggs.
Source = Presence
The Presence can be destroyed by finite power
What's the point of making God finite fodder
I was crying laughing at those webms of Kratos vs Balder with Chief and Doomguy. Hardest I've laughed here since probably Gamerafag
I know. I really fucking love that line. there really is no greater power in the universe than love.
Wait until aang fight, these threads will unusable kek
you guys don't see the potential
the genuine worry of anons over the possibilty chief would actually win against doomslayer
kinda embarrasing looking back at in retrospect
Thought this was Shinji and Kaworu for a second there
You don't need to demonstrate an ability to learn it anon.......
If you think about it, DB is a parasitic media.
It requires in fleeting crossovers for reactions and then gone. It feeds in the hype from other franchises (and many episodes die precisely from said hype).
By itself is just beat your dumb action figures with lots of fanservice and little substance.
Even a fanfic tends to be original but DB is all about stiff headcanons.
Oh this faggot is back.
Feats > Statements
Don't backtrack now. Post your omnipotent squaring a circle.
>Source = Presence
no it's not
It was completely understandable after the public relations atrocity that was Asura vs Kratos
If Chief won DB would been gone to the gutter and became Kratos 2.0 and then eventually Simon would come along and pick up the pieces
In Snyder cosmology it is.
With modern Death Battle, you really can’t predict anything anymore, because what they include and exclude from the research is often arbitrary. Reminder that before DB paid to have the Otoko CD translated, most people thought Kyle would win.
How is Simon beating Kyle through that exact logic not a feat?
this is what DCfags will forever have nightmares about now
Vertigobros should be glad DC isn't canon to Vertigo because of shit like this kek
If Chief won DB would been gone to the gutter and became Kratos 2.0
Genuiely terrible alternative universe thank god my goat had a good death
This is why I find it hilarious that they want Wiz vs Boomstick as the series finale, as if anyone gives a fuck about the hosts
There's no scans of either character doing anything an illogical omnipotent should be capable of.
OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
3 - 0
That...Has nothing to do with my post though...Or the discussion....
Yawn
DC will get another herald win while TTGL fades back into irrelevancy
Eh, it could've been really fucking funny depending on their reasoning
DC cosmology is so silly, like Dark Multiverse doesn’t *necessarily* sound like the worst thing ever but a fucking BABY multiverse being birthed because of hearld deaths? WTF??
u? mad
the next DC fight is probably going to be 682 GAPING goonsday kekykek
done throwing a tantrum on Anon Babble?
post comic sales
DB can't into SCP cosmology, it's a free DC win
Kyle was the literal final boss of DC Heralds, anon. He was stated to be stronger than Superman, Hal, and the Flash. You can't get much higher than that.
Where’s that lil BITCH who stole mah name?
wtf is a herald
DCopers said the same thing about Simon
Eh, that's a little nebulous. Monitor Space is more "out there" than Limbo and Limbo isn't even a strictly material place to begin with. We know Monitor "nanotech" was the size of, maybe, a city in the germ worlds. That's basically all we can go off. The other problem is that you don't really have a fight if the Thought Robot stays in Monitor Space and Monitor Space is ruled as inaccessible to the competition, because there's virtually no overlap unless someone hops dimensionality.
Were you falseflagging like the obsessed mental patient you are while I was playing Dayz with friends? That's fuckin funny as fuck. You're fucking cooked.
And they were right about that specifically because 20D wasn't used, Simon got the win off NLF power growth and Kyle not mastering LE
By the end they admitted DC was still more complex than TTGL
We missed out Chief actually using a Halo Ring to reduce The Doomslayer into elementary particles
Seething so glorious, denied.
Heralds are not even that strong, cosmics are le real deal. Hence why galactus is le strongest character ever in death battle, and actually won due to le cosmology esoterism.
Lol it depends on who you ask, although I generally agree with that. Sometimes WL Kyle is matched up with heralds like, say, Norrin, in battleboards. Other times the jump goes to teambusters like Thanos. And sometimes they jump straight to skyfather tier with the likes of Odin and Galactus
comic charas are so unmemorable we scale em all on the "relative to silver surfer" tier
never been to Anon Babble, my isp has never been there, you tell your friends that ur mad?
Heralds are not even that strong
The Heralds of Galactus are understood to be tremendously powerful entities. Herald tiers are people you could match up against them. Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Superman, Captain Marvel, Sentry, stuff like that
TOM THE CAT IS A KEKOLD HAHAHAH
yeah u mad
I can't believe my verse gets soloed by a dudebro in a flamboyant mech...
Didn't perpetua screched like a rabid dog after getting SLAMMED by a fucking normal planet?
Herald is a ridiculous tier in general, it goes anywhere from planet level Hulk to omniversal rune king Thor
Simon's power is just playground "I WIN" arguments
Jobs to my 4 year old son (he is real and not a fictional faggot).
Well they're not... how to put it, cosmology busters. You've got your herald tiers who are largely jobbers, your team busters who bust teams of heralds, your skyfathers who are largely jobbers with a few great outliers, then a big ball of immeasurable cosmics who are largely jobbers. The term loses meaning when you view it through a lens outside the big two
Starlin makes Above All Others an inner function of the multiverse thwarted by Thanos (who is later foiled by using time travel)
Ewing makes TOAA question its own supremacy just because Blue Marvel told him "Umm you have creators too" and gives him a schizophrenic Kabbalistic alter ego in the form of TOBA (a pointless agnostic idiocy, let's be honest)
The Presence can get thwarted by manipulating the collective consciousness of the Earth's inhabitants using time travel
the new Beyonder fights by tearing comic books in half
a Beyonder got exploded by Blue Marvel's antimatter body flying into its head
Pralaya can't do anything about time stop and needs a multiversal nexus to destroy the multiverse
the Source got defeated by Darkseid with the power of the New Gods
Perpetua, who scales above CAS and COIE Anti Monitor, depletes most of her power destroying individual universes and fights Batkek using planets
Anti Monitor is suggested to deal with things beyond the Presence in COIE
Lucifer Morningstar loses to a sentient deck of playing cards
Dream of the Endless gets beat up and weakened by a bunch of sentient stars
the Overmonitor is a sheet of fucking paper
Yeah, he's a REAL LIFE faggot instead
Simon would use the ring because he'd want an alternative power to use rather than spiral power.
RKT would be a Skyfather by virtue of having the Odinforce and then some...
Hal...
But using the rings would had also killed the chief so it would end up as a draw, right? Those who stand on a halo ring when it fires also die, right?
and serve the cops that just tried to kill him and steal laggan?
Who the hell do you think he is
Why does Galactus need to eat again? He always never seem to run out of power since he gives people ultimate herald power.
dont think about it
A pretty nice guy with a heart of gold
I still kinda wish the whole fight was just Cortana throwing an army of Prometheans at Doom Slayer while Chief took a nap in the cryo pod the entire time.
Even when trapped by the cycle of rebirth..
The dreams we left behind will open the door!
Even if the infinite universe stands in our way..
The seething of our blood will determine what will be!
We'll break through time and space..
To grab hold of our own path!!!
JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE?
Glock>Simon
Simple as
Would Simon beat Galactus? Or is Marvel gods where we draw the line when it comes to making fun of western comics
It depends on who you ask. Sometimes it's "because", other times he serves as the Great Filter for alien species and at times Celestials
It's played upon sometimes. Like when it's him standing between Eternity and Death, like how the In-Betweener stands between Order and Chaos. Sometimes cosmics have a deeper meaning and functionality than power levels. Other times they're just there to job
Capebros...
Glock
who?
not Lucifer and Presence are immune
It's over.
Outerversal 9mm.
Their description of Galactus last season seemed more OP than their description of Simon this season IMO. Galactus eating a morsel of Spiral Power and deciding it's his new favorite dessert is a scary thought to be honest
Rick stumble out of a portal near Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
"*BURP* Simon The Digger? More like Simon The Nigger!"
he puts his hands behind his head as a laser cannon comes out of his crotch, he does a pelvis thrust and the laser fires at Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, destroying it in an explosion
"Gurren Lagann? Gurren La-gone and shit! WUBBA LUBBA DUBDUB!" *dabs on the Simon's sharred corpse*
Herald tiers
I was confused thinking the term meant something in the comics or that many people joined Galactus
He would put a decent fight but ultimately lose. But simon real marvel MU is thanos (written by starlin)
Dio overheaven solos capeshit (par Spawn, me thinks).
fictioncel has to HEADCANON reality to cope
Troon behavior. Boom. You lost.
If Loebforce Rulk lost to Galactus then so would Simon
Otoko Simon: Cool fanfic bro
Retcons Rick's portal gun from existence
This happened in the recent season.
With how they jerked Kyle off to be even stronger than the Anti-Monitor and Darkseid, he'd low diff Galactus.
Galactus was made to be the shittiest of the abstracted as a joke which is why he's the only one to have alternate universe versions of himself while the other abstracts are the same throughout the different universes in the multiverse
the effects can be nullified by using a ring in an incomplete state.
so perhaps they could had teleported chief and guy in zeta halo (its damaged so it could count as "incomplete"), fired the damn thing with doomguy inside the beam that would fire the halo (after chief pushed him there) and sent doomguy's component molecules all over the galaxy
yep yep, this sounds bullshit enough to cause massive seething among doomfags and halofags alike
good thing this didn't happen and its all theoretical nonsense
Darkseid jobs to THAT?!?!?!
Nah it's true, I saw it.
Kek, well. composite Galactus would have half the Marvel Universe as his heralds. Cates didn't come up with Thor being one. Aunt May was one in an alternate universe I'm pretty sure. There was also that pastor from Matt Fraction's Thor run who became a herald of Galactus and was promptly forgotten. A member of Annihilus' species was made into one in Last Planet Standing (sick name for a story featuring Galan btw), etc
Otoko Simon: Cool fa>wins Death Battle
Darkseid was SHITTING his pants when he met the world eater. Kyle is just a poor imitation of hal who outlived his usefulness decades ago
Darkseid doesn't seem that impressive compared to Galactus Desu
.>fucks nia and yoko with uncertainty across timelines at the same time
Saw deez.
can't even greentext properly
lol?
Must be a symptom of NEVER having won a death battle.
Simon, please understand. Literacy rates in that subcontinent is very low.
hiding behind Rick and Morty
Goddammit all these big g post reminded me off all those galactus vs [insert anime character] that people used to make back during the golden age of battleboarding
They already did an episode where they killed mecha Pilots across all the timelines.
It makes sense when you think about it, at least going off Kirby's intent. Darkseid was conceived as a tyrant and warmonger whose iron fist was incomplete and thus he needed Anti-Life; he was inspired by the Roman Empire and National Socialist Germany. Galactus was conceived as the answer to "What if the F4 fought God?"
Didn't the Doctor erase you?
R&M >>> Gurren Lagann because it's in Fortnite, the AUTHORITY of relevancy. Come back when you get your invite.
All of Simon's enemies are Indian
Simon according to G1 and Death Battle has no resistance to soul hax so Galactus would just eat his soul. His ‘infinite growth’ would be the thing that would actually help Galactus satiate his hunger, so Galactus eating Simon (and his Spiral Power) would basically make him into Lifebringer.
Or if he doesn’t want to eat him, he can just use the ultimate nullifier and nuke Simon’s soul out of existence. Even if Simon transcended to higher and higher planes, the Ultimate Nullifier was able to delete Multiversal Eternity from existence, who is the platonic concept of story-telling or whatever given the Eternity Mask and what Ewing is doing. He’s basically a hard-counter to Simon.
The only cape characters that could beat Simon that were used by DB are the abstracts (the flashes at their peak due to being the speedforce conceptually, phoenix, darkseid, galactus) and people with macguffin super-powerups that match what Simon could do with his narrative shit (Doom, Thanos, Superman).
The strongest character in all of fiction, that's who.
post yfw this popped up
Behold...
The HALL of HEROES...
Galactus eating Simon (and his Spiral Power) would basically make him into Lifebringer.
That's an astute observation
can't even greente>wins Death Battle
Darkseid had to rely on a star to defeat Eclipso because he couldn't generate an explosion that bright on his own.
DC > Batman > Predator > Marvel > Godzilla = Mecha
Simon according to G1 and Death Battle has no resistance to soul hax
How is complete conceptual erasure resistance not packaged with soul hax, among the various other things he just doesn't get killed by?
HOLY FUARK!!! GALACTUS is so STRONG!
Didn't Sonic lose to Flash and didn't Bowser lose to Ganon
This was the moment I knew Kyle was fucked.
Loopchads...
this is after Darkseid merged with his true form
KWAB
Predator also killed Sabrina The Teenage Witch who beat Archie Sonic who beat Mega Man who gets SRW scaling
Honestly, when everyone saw 'mangaka' at the beginning of the Simon analysis was the minute I knew it was over
bring me simon
Galactus? Could easily consume all of DC cosmology btw.
Right. Simon can grow infinitely but Galactus canonically has infinite hunger that cannot be satiated no matter what energy he absorbs, and he can absorb conceptual energy against the other abstracts which under Hickman and Ewing are effectively narrative-transcendence battles of seeing who can rewrite their will on the white page (the mystery) the most.
Since Galactus is the energy of the previous Multiverse merged with Galan, he’s techncially the survivor of something like Spiral Nemesis already, since each Multiverse in the past is an entire multi-eternity, a conceptual embodiment of all possible story-telling around a central theme (which is why Ewing said that the first multiverses were more archetypal in storytelling, with complexity and granularity developing later and later in the Multiversal cycle).
He’s the perfect hardcounter to Simon.
you can have boota instead
Can you tell me how these universes existed in multiplicity within the same physical space? I'm not trying to debunk anything, I just want to know
Why is it so hard for comics to visually display anything above star-busting feats? Anime does it all the time
I would guess most writers don't want to tell stories on that level because of status quo, and because they're out of place in the setting most times.
Comics are more concerned with pushing kike propaganda than anything else, hence the rampant cuckoldry.
Hey... Wait a minute...
Master Chief is green
Green Laterns are green (duh)
Green Laterns have their Power ring
Master Chief has the Halo rings
both are Incredibly powerful weapons
They weren't enough against the powerhouses that were their opponents (or didn't outright use them in chief's case)
Because Death Battle operates under VSBW assumptions where information manipulation and erasure isn’t the same thing as soul manipulation, they’re two separate abilities for them for some reason. I was just going under Death Battle’s logic there.
If you want to say that Simon’s conceptual higher-level consciousness ‘is’ his soul, then that’s fine. Galactus still ultimate nullifies it, since the ultimate nullifier has worked on conceptual abstracts who canonically can come back from erasure from other types of erasure (hence the nullifier is ‘ultimate’, it’s beyond every other type of erasure in the setting).
AIEEEEEEEEEE!!!! B-B-BOOTA-SAMA!!! PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON MY PATHETIC VERSE!! I'LL DO ANYTHING!!!!
Huh?
I think it would be interesting. Doom struggled to even contain the power of the Beyonder after power-stealing him, but he did mention that it wouldn't be the case if he were to get it again. And the Beyonder probably packs millions of times more juice than Boota, with all due respect
his verse isn't already infinite so the mass would be equally infinite everywhere
WEAK
the tiniest, most insignificant character in GODVEL, literally so small that even a single atom in marvel is like an omniverse to him, could squash the entire DC cosmology flat if he so wished
KEKAROO!
Is there a single DC win vs GODVEL that's even accurate?
Is there a single DC win vs ANYONE that's even accurate?
Hitlersisters... EMERGENCY DISCORD MEETING! NOW!!!
honestly doesn't this just make Simon that much more bullshit as a character? I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to surpass Galactus by some miracle.
If you want to say that Simon’s conceptual higher-level consciousness ‘is’ his soul, then that’s fine. Galactus still ultimate nullifies it, since the ultimate nullifier has worked on conceptual abstracts who canonically can come back from erasure from other types of erasure (hence the nullifier is ‘ultimate’, it’s beyond every other type of erasure in the setting).
I would grant this if there has never been any instance of someone resisting or evading the ultimate nullifer, but that's just not true.
Chief would probably be a Green Lantern, right? I know he cares about people and stuff, but his indefatigable willpower, top 0.1% human intellect and reasonable creativity (give the Covenant back their bomb) would probably take precedence
Because not every verse has souls or afterlife or underworld
Sonic does beat Goku tho
It isn't? the ultimate nullifier failed before?
Under the logic of Doom going infinite infinities above his power with his power siphon with no issue (going from below Simon’s baseline to above Simon’s baseline in a higher timeframe than Simon’s growth), Doom’s absorption is more powerful than Simon’s growth, hence he would exhaust Simon before he could sufficiently grow to harm Doom.
Beyonder originally was already infinite-dimensional before he realized he was the entire Beyond-realm which saw the infinite realms of the Multiverse as nothing but a speck in his ocean, which causes Owie and Beyonder to evolve beyond everything to the point where they retconned themselves out of existence to stop themselves from mucking with everything according to official Marvel guidebooks.
And Doom absorbed all this. Canon.
giving Chief finite power
Why are you nerfing him? He already has infinite energy.
Hank’s growth is equivalent to Simon’s growth since he can grow to the level of the abstracts who see infinite-dimensional universe as fiction. And pym particles are nothing to the higher-level power absorbers of the verse (Doom, Ultron, Thanos, etc.)
Chief would probably be a Green Lantern, right?
Yes, without a doubt
Master BITCH could questionably be a green lantern
BEAST Slayer could be a yellow, red, and green lantern all at once
Pathetic.
Simonbros...
You could get really wanky with the Beyonder. His power in Secret Wars II is "millions of times more than all the rest of the power in the multiverse combined". Taken to its narrative extreme this would include shit like cosmic cubes having multi-multiversal feats (and an infinite number of cosmic cubes), infinite Eternities, the Infinity Gauntlet, etc
Ashi has all of akus abilites so ashi can just stall out nia with her godtier regeneration and wear her out with portals through time and laser eyes.
Even if nia becomes the size of the universe. Ashi should have akus shapeshifting ability so she could match nias size and overwhelm her.
Ain't no need for that. But I think the Slayer is more characterized by his rage, so I'd give him red. Take his visor away and have him spew that red napalm vomit on demons and shit
Considering Simon fused with Otoko Simon can't he just retcon characters out of reality
Coom Slayer could only questionably be a yellow lantern
CHADster Chief could be a green, yellow and blue lantern all at once.
Pathetic
Of course, it's far from a complete win con every time it shows up.
yeah he’s at a higher level than anything in Death Battle. Even comparing him to someone like Simon isn’t really fair to him. There’s a reason they had to rewrite his character so he wouldn’t just brick the setting with his existence
So like how cortana helps him out here, like she is his hope or something or rather she just sits back watches chief do all the hard work (like always)
Why didn’t Aku just grow to the size of a universe and squish Jack?
Blue is actually a pretty damn good call there anon. Halo 3's ad campaign is more than enough in the way of reasoning
We know that DC cosmology mogs Marvel cosmology from the Phoenix vs Raven episode, so why are we saying a notorious Marvel jobber like Galactus can beat Simon when ultra hyper giga swanked Kyle with the entire DC cosmology behind hm couldn't do it?
You could even say that nia will struggle to even damage ashi in the first place. As after akus death ashi is a nonexistent entity. As far as i know nia doesn't have the ability to interact with nonexistance. Giving ashi a wincon.
Beyonder is so broken that nobody ever mentions him BEYOND his power scaling, it's all he has. So he must be that powerful, surely.
doomkek and master virgin would NEVER reach white latern status
Grant Morrison admits Marvel is less fictional than DC. If anything Marvel transcends DC.
I love how the guidebooks just defer to him
Because uh... We spent 40+ years farming statements to gas up our verse and we won't see a real DB to test it anyway!
It's all they have...
Slayer could also be blue (gives hope to humanity by fighting demons) and pink (loves Daisy so much he waged eternal blood vengeance on hell)
ZAMN if only Slayer was a greedy fuck too so he could get the orange ring, then he’d just be a white lantern.
My FUARKING hero is so strong…
huh. maybe Simon can tank that shit after all then. but yeah honestly it'd feel like a stalemate if they can't find a way to really kill eachother for good.
There’s a reason they had to rewrite his character so he wouldn’t just brick the setting with his existence
I take it he was a joke character that had to be reworked because he came off as a gary stu?
The Strongest.
That explains why Godzilla jobbed in Marvel but not in DC.
green lantern master chief and arbiter go hard as hell
The reason is because Kyle although having arbitrary firepower behind him had a small mind that couldn’t control that power. Death Battle admitted that Kyle’s unmastered use of the Life Equation could only be matched by Simon transcending his entire multiverse and viewing it as fiction, with the disparity between them being that Simon mastered this power easily and Kyle disintegrated in trying to deal with the level of power he had. And even beyond this Simon could continue to grow and remain stable, while Kyle in his growth beyond this would continue disintegrating until he loses.
Marvel abstracts have similar level of powers but are super-intelligent hivemind consciousnesses. They are much more stable than Kyle (a mere mortal birdbrain) ever was.
Definitely not pink. Dex Starr isn't a pink lantern after all
Even Kittan could overload infinite absorption and Simon is much stronger than him
Aku could've. He had no predetermined limits to his Shapeshifting other than what he could imagine
Hal takes him mid diff.
Death Battle episodes are, supposedly, made in a vacuum. That's how Raven beats Phoenix but Apocalypse beats Black Adam. Alternatively you could just read the posts and make up your own mind
the only thing (you) need to be a green lantern is have a strong willpower
that's it
Ah fuck the energy sword construct is badass
For the same reason toph defeated gaara, bias.
What's even stopping ashi from just going into the future when nia is already about to die from her information being deleted and just killing her then?
Actually, no. You need to be fearless, or conversely able to overcome great fear. Willpower was never a selection criterion.
Sure but this isn’t mere ‘infinite absorption’.
As notes, Simon’s growth of ‘transcending an infinite-dimensioned multiverse and seeing it as fiction’ (the highest we’ve seen him grown) is matched by fucking Hank Pym growing to the level of Eternity and the cosmic abstracts, who are the platonic forms of infinite-dimensioned marvel universes. Then there’s an infinite hierarchy of eternities in one Multi-Eternity, and then several infinite hierarchies above all that, all infinitesimal to the multiverse of cosmic energy the Beyonder embodied in Secret Wars, which Doom absorbed in a few panels worth of time.
but are super-intelligent hivemind consciousnesses
Isnt this just like the anti-spiral though?
Slayer’s love for his rabbit and his dead wife and son are why he’s so mad in the first place.
sovlful art...
chief's answer to galactic threats as a green lantern is firing a Super MAC round right to their faces
kino...
Sure. But the cosmic abstracts are like anti-spiral merged with Simon, they can grow infinitely too.
Nta; Beyonder was a lot of things but a Gary Stu wasn't one of them. He was naive, self-serving and stupid. He messed everything up everywhere he went, for everyone involved, he was conned more than once and went through periods of self-loathing. He "died" tragically because of his inhuman whims and lack of regard for others' lives when Molecule Man blasted him in the middle of his transformation into a human.
Beyonder was the protagonist of Secret Wars II, but he's by no means someone you're meant to reconcile with the rest of the setting. Jim Shooter was pretty aggressive about it
Simon will simply generate more energy. That’s how spiral power works.
Do they ever surpass fiction?
Simon does. canonically.
Post Aku turning into something as big as a universe.
Abstracts see their setting as fiction, yes.
Overall i give it any 50/50 chance that ashi takes out nia with her hax and intelligence. Just because nias stronger doesn't mean she can just overpower ashi instantly. Afterall ashi scales directly to Jack's lightspeed feat/falling from orbit durability. Either nia becomes the size of the universe at the start of the fight. Or ashi opens a portal into the future and kills a now depowered nia.
It's also that, depending on who you ask, they can only manifest in the universe through M-Bodies manufactured by Anthropomorpho. At least according to Quasar; abstracts like Eternity are so massive they need multiple per universe, which are kinda just hanging out in the void
I…… AM INCAPABLE……….
No idea.
They say superman has no limits than immediately turn around and say Kyle is stronger than him even though he arguably has better feats.
Seeing as fiction or being as fiction? Avant Simon was literally a manga character for perspective. Could Hank shrink himself into a manga?
Wasn't the first major antagonist to the protagonist(s), but is the main antagonist, and has been the whole time, without the protag's knowledge.
Was originally a recipient/user of the same source of power as the protag, only to eventually perceive a key "flaw" inherent to the source of power, and take it upon themselves to "correct the flaw" how they see fit. The Witness was a species uplifted by the Traveler, but wants to control its inherent "chaos". The Anti-Spiral was originally a "Spiral"-using species, but perceived the eventuality of "The Spiral Nemesis" (premature heat-death of the universe) and decided to end all Spiral species to avoid this.
Believed themselves to be ultimately good, and to be providing either a service to reality, or relief/mercy to it's inhabitants.
Began the path to universal control by way of mass-forfeiture of physical & emotional individuality; merged their entire population into 1 single entity.
Did not maintain control directly, instead relying on pawns from other races. The Witness has their disciples, which are individuals picked from each race destroyed/subjugated. The Anti-Spiral gave the following offer to one surviving member of every species subjugated by them: use the technology received from the Anti-Spiral to build an army of creatures that cannot use Spiral power. Then use that army to either destroy their own species, or subjugate and maintain their population below 1 million individuals, so as to guarantee a lack of people that could eventually gain Spiral power.
It'd be a Kino fight but damn, the witness stomps
is consumed by his GREED even after he makes enough to pay for chemo
is constantly ANGRY at how everyone belittles and looks down on him for being meek and uninteresting, enough to where becoking a druglord felt cathartic for him
lives in constant FEAR that either Hank will arrest him, or his employers will kill him one day
LOVES his family, and leaves behind his entire fortune to them before going on his suicide mission to kill the Neo-Nazis
has the WILLPOWER and COMPASSION to redeem himself and save Jesse, despite his family abandoning him and him having nothing else to live for
by saving him, gives Jesse HOPE to put all the trauma he’s caused him behind him
Yup, Walter White Lantern, at your service
Nia has her own (galaxy?/universe?) sized mecha in the movie.
BOOM
I am aware. But look at the latter part of your sentence. And look up Dex Starr
the witness can suck my fucking dick the bastard is everything wrong with destiny some extent of modern bungie
His original form was the size of the universe. He fought the primordial deities who created the samurai jack universe in this form. So aku could be argued as being universal.
So would Simon really make for a good green lantern or would another color suit him?
Universal Eternity sees the entire marvel universe (which has infinite spatial dimensions) as a dream. Hank could grow past the entire physical universe into Overspace and meet with this version of Eternity in Mighty Avengers.
Afterall ashi scales directly to Jack's lightspeed feat/falling from orbit durability
Nia scales to Simon (she piloted STTGL with him) and she has actual combat feats in the manga with her real body, even her own tengen toppa mech. Statswise it's not really debatable.
Simon would cripple himself if he went green lantern
I don’t care about some gay cat who isn’t as emotionally complex as a human.
Now post Ashi doing ANYTHING comparable in scale to that.
Real life in fiction is just another layer of fiction. Fictionception more or less. We saw it in nightmare of elm street franchise where freddy transcends his movies and became a real person.
Otoko Simon: *retcons Galactus' absorption abilities from marvel*
"oops"
That's the thing though. It's a dream by Eternity, a super powerful abstract being. Avant Simon existed on a piece of physical paper, without consciousness, and transcended it. They don't at all feel equivalent.
Ashi was able to resist her own nonexistence for weeks to get married to Jack. Even ashi can't kill her.
Loses to The Chadian and his faggot ass friends
transcending fiction
yawn
post a single character that has a feat comparable to this
No offense to the Slayer but my mother's cat has a broader emotional range than he does. I don't doubt that he loved his family and pet, but it's ultimately his rage that best characterizes him
Has she resisted conceptual erasure above the multiverse level (minimum) that Nia might be able to replicate?
Ashi has all the powers of aku this is directly stated and shown multiple times.
only one level of reality above an infinite-dimensioned multiverse
meanwhile a singular universal eternity is qualitatively above an infinite-dimensioned universe, and there is an infinite chain of this to match multi-eternity, who is equal to the power cosmic
KWAB
Wouldn’t that make it more impressive for Hank than Simon though? Simon just transcended a piece of 3D paper, Hank went from non-existent (only existing in the imagination of a platonic form) to the level of the platonic form through growth. Kyle went from nothing to 3D, Hank went from nothing to beyond infinite-D.
Nia didn't resist it though she died to it. And that's all ashi has to do for her wincon. Just time travel to when nia is gonna die.
The only literal win con Ashi has if she immediately time travels to when Nia is about to die at her wedding and kills her before she fades out of existence, she can’t even time travel to the past to try and kill her since she’s surrounded by people who can beat her ass as easily as Jack did.
Yes, no, maybe, I don't know. Can you repeat the question?
Self-aware fiction that jumps out of its fiction and into a fictional real world is a silly thing because it kind of undermines a fictional setting's stakes anyway
Ant-Man > Simon > DC
Kek
yeah yeah power cupcake or whatever.
Damn, Simon gets to ADAPT to THAT?
Friendly reminder that Death Battle is never wrong, and you are because what is an autistic manchild who does this as a hobby against a team of professional autistic retards?
They know more than you, deal with it, you're a fucking piece of shit, your only worth is as a number on their YouTube stats.
Fairly Odd Parents out of nowhere
I don't think so. 3D objects have no special qualities while dream worlds and all sorts of shit tends to exist in capeshit. It basically means Avant Simon surpassed actual inanimate fiction (though it happened to be drawn by Simon) with Spiral Power while you can at least argue Hank arose from an idea something abstract thought of.
you're a fucking piece of shit
this was uncalled for. apologize immediately.
Chief would be a good green lantern
Slayer would be a GREAT green lantern tho
Okay but the point is everyone here is autistic, nobody's a winner.
Post hank surpassing a paper page inside his comic
I think Chief would be better for the intents and purposes of the Corps. He's less of a maverick, communicates better with others and doesn't have eternal RAGE stirring him towards the Red
Chief would be a great green lantern
Slayer would be a TERRIFIC red lantern
Doubt ashis portal creation even has a limit to the size it can be. So maybe it can even get to the same same size as nias mech? Hard to say but its a closer fight than you think really.
Yugi would defeat Simon in a duel.
literal VSBW babble
I bet that 99% of that shit isn't consistent, is a lie, or has been retconned.
Post Ashi ever reaching even star level sizes
So what you're saying is Superman beats Simon because he has no limits.
This shit ain’t close nigga wtf? Ain’t nobody from Smaurai Jack have any business tangoing with TTGL.
Screw the rules, I have spiral power.
We never see her create a portal that big bro, even her dad who was ginormous in his primordial goop stage never became the size of a planet to try and squash Jack and he scales above her.
Death Battle are sometimes wrong
Giving Simon Otoko is funny as shit because that means he could beat anyone just by going "nuh-uh" and rewriting the script.
Could Alan Wake beat Otoko Simon?
I just think him doing the toonforce shit of surpassing a (real) story (not a dream) within a story completely seriously is funny
not Sonic since he resisted plot hax in Secret Rings
Galactus tries to use the Ultimate Nullifier on Simon just for it to get written out of the battle
He still has to get past the Boundless editors, Mister Anti-Spiral. And the High Boundless DMCA's!
Fool, the Japanese copyright law system is way more aggressive than the American one.
The idea of dream worlds exist because Marvel has been doing ‘jumping out of fiction to reality’ since the 60s, Simon could jump from paper to 3D, while pym particles allowed someone like Scott Lang to grow smaller than an idea (basically so that he was non-existent). The Macroverse is itself this infinitely enfolded fiction-into-reality universe, which Hank could outgrow by entering Overspace:
It reminds me of the time a bunch of villains (I think the Juggernaut was one of them?) beat up the writers in a comic
SHITurion
Post Centurion winning a YCS
It's still nias most popular matchup they have so many similarities
both are daughters of the villan
both go though redemption arcs
both help fight the main villan who is a black entity that has powers they do
they both stop existing during marrying the mc
H-HE'S TOO POWERFUL....
oh yeah that's a game, isn't it actually similar to Otoko Simon with fictional characters being able to leave into the real world and Sonic ignored the plot of the book saying he was going to die despite it being destined to happen?
game Sonic beats Wally West because of this shit
No he didn’t.
We'll see how fierce they are when the US Secretary of Powerscaling, Otto, cracks down on Chinese and Japanese media. A few tariffs on anime/manga spinoffs containing metafiction ought to do the trick.
It's not a matchup that needs to or should happen, someone as gentle and kind as Nia killing an innocent woman sounds about as "fun" as when Aang did it
his name was added to the book and the book's plot said he was going to die, Sonic avoided this and was still present when Erazor Djinn wiped all the pages out which included the plot of the world
Nigga even SpongeBob in the second movie did that. The villain discovered a book that told the story of his show, rewrote it so that SpongeBob would always lose, then SpongeBob wrote himself into the real world and defeated that villain.
Simon is SpongeBob level.
Simon is lamp level
Deathbattles aren't about being anything other than thematic showdowns between similar characters. Nia and ashi have similar narratives and character traits so they gotta fight.
682 SHARTS on Doomsday
Jack Hanma RAPES Bane
Terumi SNEEDS Sinestro
It’s not lookin’ good, DCbros…
Simon is SpongeBob level.
Spongebob is a little too slow for Simon.
Told you. Simon is just built differently
So that's how he can beat goku...
So is Simon's closest matchup really Coop?
Simon is SpongeBob level.
But Simon's weaker form no diffed Spongefraud's best speed feat........
The only interesting connection here is them dying at the altar. Others are generic.
DB can be retarded sometimes with their research, but no one, not even the most braindead of brainlets who read article 6820 would leave it still thinking jobbersday is getting a win over the lizard. It's a spite match through and through created entirely to traumatize DCucks and buckbreak them, although Simon already managed to do that part.
thinking SpongeBob is only finite speed
He once flipped a Krabby Patty so hard and fast it transcended the time barrier and broke through the comic page.
Kneel.
same story beats = good matchup
Back to plebbit with you.
The World Rings are the only reason why that happened, nigger.
I've heard it said that Simon and Chuck Norris once arm wrestled.
The loser had to wear a corset on his neck. Make of that what you will.
I don't make the rules. If characters are similar they have to fight
Only vsfags want that matchup desu. The entirety of SCP is just vsfaggotry. It stopped being a creepypasta around 2018 when it fully hit mainstream and start an influx of retards into the site.
selected by the toons over all WB properties as their champion, meaning he is stronger than all the toons and all DC
scales to the Mouse, therefore stronger than Kratos
scales to Kratos canonically
Bring me Simon…
He once flipped a Krabby Patty so hard and fast it transcended the time barrier and broke through the comic page.
That's a cute feat.
Blaze already made Starfire her prison BITCH
Sentry will BTFOs Supes
Composite Optimus BTFOs Supes
Raidou will SMTGAPE Constantine
TMNT Shredder SHREDS TT Slade
Mysterio FUCKS Scarecrow
Um....DCbros...? We WILL win another matchup one day....r-right?
Though smaller than an idea, he still technically existed though, right? Especiallt if it loops back. Avant Simon is basically this he was just drawings on paper before deciding not to be. It's like someone surpassing true nonexistence, existing only as ink on paper that could've been put down on the paper in any other way. Not being called into existence but creating himself on a higher plane because the stars aligned in some place incomprihensibly beyond himself.
SHITos scaling
I can't believe my GOAT is losing because he associated with that antidimes faggot
Otoko bested Avant, so Main Simon >>>> Otoko > Avant > Spongebob
I want him back ngl
Lebron vs Kratos? Only Stephen A. Smith could answer that
If you want to talk about ‘non-existent enemies writing themselves into existence’ both Marvel and DC have dealt with that. Superman dealt with that in Kelly’s run with the Hollow Men in the 2000s. It’s nothing new for capeshit.
If you want to say, ‘but it’s still dreamt by a higher being,’ doesn’t that count for Simon too? For if he transcended the fiction he also transcends the fiction time, which means that he always transcended it from relative to the fiction; it still existed then in the mind of metaphysical Simon then beyond time.
Simon is a featless, multi-galaxy level fraud. Megas XLR solos the TTGL verse. All that "universe" imagery used in the show to depict how big Super TTGL was, they're all fake and nothing more than a galaxy-sized projection of the actual observable universe.
Cope
t. didn't read the wiki in forever
Blatant powerlevel shit is heavily curated and moderated nowadays unless it serves the themes of the article and is generally well written. I'll give you that there was a small period in which that shit was ignored because the community didn't notice the infestation of vsfags sneaking in, but nowadays it's barely a problem since very few of those articles are made, and the ones that do get accepted don't focus entirely on powerlevel faggotry unless it serves a narrative purpose (like the aforementioned 6820).
It stopped being a creepypasta around 2018
SCP-4666 released a couple of years and it's arguably one of the best horror themed SCPs. The site is still alive and beating, there's been uphill and downhill turns but the core spirit of the wiki still remains.
KWAB.
Worst MC
Post ignored.
FRAUDbane
Begone. Go hangout with Gaytos and Omni-fag.
I'm laughing at DemonFRAUD b t w. Still funny how this nigga got btfo'd.
Demonbane
Put on fraudwatch.
redditor outs xemself immediately
YWNBAW. Get out of my thread.
Cope and seethe you tranny obsessed faggot.
Simon is a street level and super ttgl is multi galaxy at best.
Godzilla bros… not like this… not like this…
Y-you weren't suppose to say that...
I still think he has Segata's number
Simon is a street level
Then how could he fist fight the Anti Spiral?
Honestly wild how Anon Babble COMPLETELY dropped this guy lol. If you were there from 2010-2015 they would always bring him up as the strongest thing in all of fiction. Nowadays most anons prob don't even know the name ''Demonbane''.
Can someone TLDR me on the Demonbane history? How did it get btfo’d?
Untranslated VN that some anons gassed up as the pinnacle of powerlevels for years while making fake infographs on it. Years later some anons read the VN and revealed most of the shit being said about it is fake. "Elder God Demonbane" isn't even an actual thing that exists in there.
Super hyper duper "strong" very niche mecha series from the haydays of battleboarding, got deboonked as a bunch of frauds because suprise suprise, the faggots who hyped it didn't read the goddamn series. Basically the old day equivalent of DC fags wanking their series, only to be stroke down by actual readers.
I don't know HOW it btfo. But he was Anon Babble's top dog a while back. This was a power level chart from the early 2010s made by Anon Babblenons. STTGL under Getter Emperor is wild.
This chart is so funny in retrospect, nowadays STTGL is probably seen as the top dog.
Anissa vs superwoman
I remember how hard GER used to be wanked back in the day before Part 5 had proper translations or its anime. I wonder who Pucci's best opponent is
*One-shots Superman*
Demonbane’s best feat (killing Azathoth) isn’t even from the VN
Never forget.
This pic takes me back
It IS TIME!!
Superman wins doe
Man is this pic so fucking old.
If you want to say, ‘but it’s still dreamt by a higher being,’ doesn’t that count for Simon too?
Actually sort of. We know from the novelization that the labyrinth paralyzed main simon by swamping him with infinite possibilities of past, present, future, and in many dimensions from the multiverse. In this sense, every incarnation of Simon should be possible by sheer random chance, so technically they do always exist in some form at least until he integrated with every Simon and more or less completely surpassed all of it which was when being beyond space and dimensions started being thrown around in many versionsvof tge story, implying they were completely unbound from their own multiverse shit at that point, though we do get several versions of the events playing out regardless in the different versions of the story. Does that count as reaching into abstract levels if everything below you is fully subsumed?
It gets confusing when you delve into it in more detail, like the Triggerverse, because you get to touch on stuff like Inferno Cop being fiction in another series, producer cameos, mirroring some of the concepts TTGL touches on, except slipping in cameos here and there (like dai-gurren's logo here). Chances are the thing as a whole works differently from Marvel at least.
gachatard
Opinion discarded.
Goku could beat simon. Just hakai him ez
Gurren is only 12D
DC isn't infinite D
Marvel is infinite D as established in Spawnrider
My HEROOOOO!!!
Nice knowing you
Ratku is a bitch ass faggot cuck who jerks off to his wife getting kissed, he's not doing shit.
Happy wife, happy life, you pig.
CapeCHADS, give me 1 good run from your hero NOW
Enough.
I am here to exterminate all higher dimensional beings. (and be the latest Guilty Gear mary sue heroine)
Surrender now in the sake of peace!
I-I cant!
All comics books are trash!
Loses to Blazblue btw
Lmao,Guilty Gear really went to shit
Simonson, Aaron,JMS, Immortal Thor and Cates if you like shonenshit.
I think it's funny how arguably the most respectful battle we've gotten in a while causes the most genuine uproar and shitflinging.
Then there's also stuff like this from a character able to travel the multiverse however they want. I don't think they ever make a point of where transcendance over fiction starts or ends or if the entire triggerverse is just a revolving door with no clear upper limit.
Foolishness. I scale to literally Yasuke and the rest of the Strive higher dimensional stuff.
Simon, Kratos, DC are no match for me. Buy the DLC tomorrow, i think.
Goku sustains the entire Guilty Gear cosmology so he is the only one beyond my power. (Google it.)
Alright Kyle, I’ll drain all this kid’s will and revert any drill attacks he tries against you, while YOU go in for the kill, got it?
GER?
Debunked as a fraud.
Goku slams ger by Just being too fast for it. Then goku also kills simon
DCbros....
luluco's ass solos our verse....it's over....
Where the hell did it even happen then? Was there an anime?
Mantlo
PAD
Jenkins
Pak
Immortal
Current run.
Memetic mutation of obscure VN mecha that was said to be the strongest thing out there but was proven wrong when people actually read the source material (among other things).
No shit everyone hates DC, so its a relief that they couldnt find a way to make him win.
No one but grifters and "DC strongest x3" ppl here wanted Kyle to win because Kyle is a non character.
Anywho go buy Unika Guilty Gear Strive.
She scales to multidimensional stuff in the anime. (with lots of outside help but dont let vsbw know that)
youtube.com
....In Goku's dreams
Hey atleast Gets isn't a fraud like Pedobane or Kyle.
DYN freaks, it’s some edgy bad end Demonbane
Given how Trigger animated Cyberpunk it's also possible that entire setting scales weirdly.
They also made a few Star Wars visions episodes so I can argue TTGL scales above that for lulz too
Based.
Got btfo by Wonder Woman
DB says Kyle is above Wonder Woman in their video
DB has Simon stronger than Kyle
Done.
Still not watching ttgl
Dbz is the better show
Simon scales above Sith Satsuki, huh
Does that count as reaching into abstract levels if everything below you is fully subsumed?
No, the abstracts conceptually transcend all the universes put together. The abstracts are effectively the platonic forms of what they embody, such that multi-eternity is the platonic form of the platonic form of the universe, or something.
Marvel has Captain America congratulate supervillain for killing a baby
Truly the paragon of American morality!
How do we know Sith Satsuki doesnt scale ABOVE Simon, huh?
Luke is 1-A on Vsbw
TTGL could not implausibly scale above this if you're lenient on Disney not retconning Legends
Kek
lenient on Disney not retconning legends
How can you be lenient on this, it’s definitively canon that Legends was retconned
Owie took care of the problem. For better or worse
That's in Marvel though. What if a setting is way more freeform and has no upper realm at all, just endless escalation everywhere infinitely?
Why do they think Luke and Anakin can destroy the Universe? What the fuck is happening in these Star Wars comics and novels?
DB also said that Raven is stronger than 95% of Marvel and yet she's weaker than Black Adam who got raped by Apocalypse. The team can't even keep a flowchart parsable.
saves DC's reputation
Quads of truth
I might have trouble recalling but I rember some shit from Legends is brought back basically as it was at times.
just endless escalation everywhere infinitely?
Then that means it’s infinitely composite, and hence jobs to the simplex.
endless escalation
Is the escalation countable or uncountable?
so imma make it easy for you
in clone wars anakin goes to a place called mortis where the force its at its purest.
Anakin then in that place managed to subdue higher dimensional embodyments of all the dark side and all the light side.
The novels then expands on this and added Abeloth, whose the mother of the two anakin subdued in Mortis.
Luke at his peak is only 12x weaker than its physical form that threatened all of existence in and outside of mortis, and on top of that gets a new "form" thru mindwalking, which lets him alongside darth kraith fight off and defeat her true form, that is in a place of existence where time, space and the force itself are mere illussions.
Trigger made this for transformers too.
My universe goes higher!
Nuhuh my universe revolves higher forever
Well mine does that even on the lower levels!
At a certain point it gets kibd of pointless
Anakin then in that place managed to subdue higher dimensional embodyments of all the dark side and all the light side
If Anakin can do this how does he job to Obi-Wan? How could he not kill The Emperor? Didn't he want to kill him the whole time?
I just can't view anything outside of the first 6 movies as canon. Even the prequels have some questionable stuff too.
Unlimited pote-
Doesn't work for me, brother.
Otoko sca-
Creative control, brother.
GIGA DRI-
No sells. Points. Ducks. Big boot. Ropes. Leg drop. 1. 2. 3. And still.
eh, i like higher dimensional stuff when its interesting or makes the story deeper or has a consequence.
Madoka becoming a higher dimensional being out of sacrifice comes at a price that she couldnt be part of the lower dimensions anymore, so her mother and brother do not have an idea who she was, only Homura.
So its tragic despite her becoming stronger than ever.
Because he was not in that place anymore.
thats why vsbw has anakin only be 1-A within Mortis.
Like i know its odd SW is outeversal but pls read the profile first, man.
That's fine. It's not like it has to be a detriment to the story but often when the scale is inflated so badly I kind of wonder if it gets redundant.
and i guess it is satisfying to havew like a overpowered character claim to be invincible, do power moves, only for that arrogance to lead to their loss or acceptance of their wrongdoings.
Like, even if they cannot be beat, the sheer act of opposing them regardless can be cool.
last 100 posts is arguing and glazing over abilities toon character can do as part of their basic skillset
Spongebob isn't even especially powerful for a toon. The fact that he's brought up in a discussion about gigaversal power levels autism speaks volumes.
shut up not even tier 1 trash
cas and mandrakk are probably city level at best
b-but my universes and billions of suns and dimensions
flowery language and hyperbole. read a book lmao.
Is not like they're creative with the fights when you pass behind the calcs.
They rarely make a creative use of the powers or capacities. It's only a convenient inference from what they see in canon which usually involves a lame calc 90% of the time.
Usually the most "creative" thing they do is somehow find a way to turn most of the characters into psychopaths.
No franchise and fandom should beg validation for DB crumps.
Aren't toon force characters technically born from ideas put on a page from someone's mind instead of any in universe explanation so every toon setting is really a platonic realm of ideas that transcends space and time and by extension is beyond dimensionality altogether?
That's how it works in Looney Tunes, Dr. Slump and Mario-kun from what I remember
Even if we accept “10 billion suns” thats a mere fraction of the stars in the Milky Way kek
They are.
That's why power scalers hate toon force, because they can't be quantified in a vaccuum. Virtually nothing in fiction could be quantified in a vaccuum, but Toon Force is the most blatant.
Physics calculations doesn't work for beings who don't actually follow the laws of physics to begin with.
Or if you accept 52 universes it's not even multiversal
If 10 billion suns is enough to cripple someone they can maybe barely bust one half of an arm of a spiral galaxy. That’s how fucking lowball it is. Universal is a whole different realm above that.
That's only because VSBW refuses to accept gag feats and scaling since it would make every toon outerversal by default.
It's not even busting them, it's "the heat of 10 billion suns" as in ambient heat from them burning fuel, probably for a few seconds
Avant Simonbros, VsBattles fears us.
they scale Kyle (someone who they said explicitly has limits) above Superman (someone who has no limits according to them)
which makes no sense unless Superman actually has limits
Why did death battle nerf Superman and retcon the results of their earlier episodes again? Are they stupid?
Toonforce characters are beyond physics or at least can manipulate and ignore physics in ways that make dimensions completely meaningless for them as a law of physics or even as the concept of dimensionality which becomes irrelevant to them too since dimensional axes don't matter to them. They transcend dimensions, which includes spatial and temporal dimensions if you mean it that way.
They FEAR Popeye
Are they stupid?
Yes. The answer is always yes
Because they were vengeful against WB
gag feats are LE BAD
but flowery vague wank statements are LE GOOD
It's that Liam Swan, that psychopathic, power-tripping bartender. He wants us to know he's beyond fiction, and he can toy with cosmic power levels like they're toys...!
They want revenge for being forced to suck Warner cock while they were owned by Rooster Teeth.
Precures would curbstomp everything in these threads
...'s laundry.
More magical foid shit
Beerus victims.
One GOW statement is worth an uncountable infinity number of gag feats
SS cures have better feats than Beerus
Post several.
Why not do both
I don’t feel like it.
I feel like kneeling
Your choice.
Post feats
NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THOSE KINDS OF FEATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
new bread?
Why doesn't Popeye transcend fiction and kick the shit out of vsbw's staff?
I think Doomguy winning IS Kratos 2.0, in the sense that the blatantly more popular and predicted character (in the general public) won and they didn't try to present it as close.
DB now has been very keen on pleasing the public eye. You can see this in some big cases
Kratos winning generates less overall seethe even if we (the minority) know it's absolute bullshit
Doomguy wins and everyone saw it coming, they make it as brutal and as big of a stomp as people thought.
Simon winning is a pleasant surprise as a very popular anime protagonist beating a literal who but powerful cape character. Most people expect comics to win by default these days.
The most actual seethe DB this season has generated is the very first episode with Bardock losing. Of course DBZ losing always causes some controversy but Omni-Man is still very popular.
I never saw a chance of Chief taking it just because they wouldn't be so stupid. They could flaunt Kratos bullshit in people's faces because he was way more popular and had more fanboys. They can't do that here.
GOW transcends toonforce according to VSBW
I’m seated actually
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I just got EVEN STRONGER... I can ALMOST destroy a wall now!
Keep it up Kingtos, you'll get that mountain in no time.
superman... i hope those punches you took from regular humans didn't hurt too much
oops i meant, multiverse-shattering punches capable of destroying entire planets with the energy of a trillion galaxies!
Yang vs. Tifa grudgematch when?
Those were OUTERVERSAL Russian Soldiers anon