Tom vs Wile E. Coyote
Death Battle
Coyete's wincon can be negated by a Toon's inherent ability
Death battles for this feel?
The Xeelee and Photino Birds would shit themselves in fear at the sight of a robot larger than the universe btw
OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
3 - 0
IS YOU IS
OR IS YOU AIN'T
MY BABY
Would Tom laugh if he's in a losing position? If Wile E blasts him with that while Tom is angry he won't laugh
...before one shotting it
Post matches only you like
I know "they'd be frens" is an unpopular response in DB. But Tom and Wile would absolutely team up to try and kill Jerry and Roadrunner; and fail of course but they'd fail together.
Dear Simonfags and Kylefags,
Go fuck yourselves.
Oh and Tom's gonna win for sure.
And then they'd try to kill each other.
… in their delusional dying dreams.
...that are real now because they are 1-A
I like M Bison vs Athena Asamiya and FG matchups
What if it’s a crazy laugh?
I'm going to keep posting drills to toy with DCfags. try and stop me.
Who do you want to see, /dbg/?
He shoots him and he starts laughing in two scenario. Histerica laughing or laughing at how weak the weapon is. Tom in also resistance to poisons too
If you want to become the next Raj then go ahead.
ZOINKS
He-Man and deadpool could be cool
But just like nornal superman, evil superman has become boring to me
Tom has laugh when he scared before
There's a difference between shitposting for fun and shitposting to try and prove a point.
Simon absorbed Avant Simon, who transcended his own fictional universe to... Another fictional universe (jobber)
MY FUARKING HERO KINGTOS transcended his own fictional universe to OUR FUARKING REALITY (BEAST) to bring back Anon Babble after the sharty hack, as well as to teach Plato about platonic concepts
S-Simonbros...? I thought our guy was the most powerful fictional character ever...
Moore Hyperion is an ideal Superman and Moore Miracleman is a deconstructed one. Ideal Superman > his deconstruction, obviously. Stomp.
Do you mean Supreme?
Supreme, not hyperion* D’oh!
Kratosura wishes it was this good.
Tempest Shadow vs Shade the Echidna
reddit.com
Does Yogiri beat Simon?
Simon is a jobber and even Hal without the Ring cracks open his skull
What a chad
Omnidock
Simon is a jobber and even Hal without the Ring cracks open his skull
FUARK IT'S TRUE!
FUARK I FORGOT SIMON IS CANON KAMINA'S CUUCKY BITCH
Simonjeet melty
oh my fucking god really
DCeethe
Where does Chadku stop?
No lies detected.
Don't worry Anti Monitor could beat Gurren La-
What the Hell is this gauntlet?
Spawn below Moon?
KIIIIIINNNGGGGTTTOOOOOOOSSSS
at base Yogiri Takatou when infinitely transcends him by being barely 1-C.
how do you even dodge this
Doesn't make it past Popeye. Should've rearranged the order
Simple.
Say "No."
Call Simon a faggot
He explodes
Popeye. Toon physics is too much,
Tiger Drop negates all damage.
sneaking Ainz above anyone there
he keeps going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and goi-
youtu.be
Asura... We must be.....better men. More empathetic, docile role models whom young men can look up to and learn positive masculinity from. When strong independent women, BIPOC of color, gender diverse children and neurodivergent folk speak, we must sit down, listen and learn how to give them a voice and empower them. We will not go back. Don't you want a bright, inclusive and diverse future for Mithra?
Alien X rapes this gauntlet and Goku.
I guess if you can shift into another timeline or universe.
Simple.
>Say "No."
>Call Simon a faggot
>He explodes
BRING ME COMPOSITE FICTION
He has some good hax.
FUUUUAAAAARRRKKK SIMONCUCCKS WE COULDN'T COMPETE WITH KAMINA HOW CAN WE COMPETE WITH BIG BRO TOM
his main shit is time strip to instant death hax and Goku resists the former so he's fucked
Do Atreus fucked Mithra right?
no probably not
This actually happens
Atreus is BVILT for DARK QVEENS that the ancient Nordics worshipped
Notice how Hal isn't here
Damn Atreus gets to colonize THAT?
Squirtle used Water Gun!
when was the moment you knew kyle was going to get his ass kicked
how do you even dodge this
He's too busy chasing minors
Well, yeah, though Spawn is stronger than her, she is faster and has better hax. The real problem is Sonic being above anyone.
you can't just shoot water to weaken them
"Mangaka"
Kill yourself listtroon.
Hal has never needed a ring.
So what issues of Green Lantern cost Kyle his victory?
That BIG BRO TOM to you, Cucky Simon
Don’t make him take your bitch again
I knew when he said he was gonna take Simon in. It would be retarded for him to say that and then fucking kill him.
It wasn’t a weakness that got exploited, it was them scaling Simon to 20D because of the audiobook story
Some people argue DC cosmology is hundreds of thousands D to infinity D but if so that’s death battle ignoring it rather than a weakness used
You forget DB is made by liberals. To them "I'm taking you in" means "AAAIIIIEEE POLICE BRUTALITY THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO HIM WHAT THEY DID TO SAINT FLOYD"
Morrison and DeMatteis Hal beat Simon (Johns comes close but loses as well).
No version of Kyle beats Simon, most of his good stuff comes from Hal scaling.
This is using the logic of separating “authors” used by the G1 blog btw.
When does verse equalization make sense in your opinion? There are verses that have easier bridges to cross than others, such as the different life energies we see in Shonen Jump series like Ki, Chakra, Cursed Energy, Haki, and Reiatsu.
Where it gets more difficult is when you have something like the Force, which in Legends we know that beings unconnected to the Force are resistant to physical Force usage and effectively immune to esoteric mental techniques.
Comics invite this really heavily though, like how exactly do you treat things like the esoteric definitions of radiation that exist in DC and Marvel? Would Superman be empowered or weakened by Hulk's radiation?
Kyle can revive people. It still worked. Him reciting the lantern oath during the final fist brawl got me worried he was going to take it
…the cuck competition whej Big Bro Tom gave Nia and Yoko his Big Blue Prickle
When the hand drills broke and it was the core drill VS ring
they said that because Otoko was canon and that Simon merged with that version of him, it meant that he possibly had an ability similar to the Life Equation. I'm not fucking joking. a joke audiobook led to DC getting shitstomped by an anime about drills.
Animation wise
Final punch visual when they are about to collide
Analysis
Otoko getting confirmed with the "mangaka in another universe" bullet
The instant they had Kyle construct a drill it was obvious
both have cuck posts against Simon you retard
I wasn't counting it out then after what happened to Asura and Ghost Rider
Futures End Green Lantern New Guardians
GLNG 38-40
These issues basically made it so the Life Equation was entirely worthless against an opponent like Simon.
no he's right. because kyle lost he has to latch onto tom now. the ntr jokes only really work when it's between characters being pinned against eachother. he can't latch onto wile because it would mean he admitted defeat
Given the blog and the Death Battle had the same argument it’s possible there was collusion there. The translation document as linked in the blog was created in January, and the blog obviously didn’t start back then, and the translation used was the same in the episode, meaning that the team probably provided the blog people with the translation, which is interesting to think about.
I do think a lot of people had serious invested interest in Simon winning given the severity of interest into looking into DC more meticulously compared to previous episodes and blogs where they would just handwave. I’m not implying anything deeper however.
Wonder why he chose Tom.
FAGiri canonically jobs to the Coronavirus
Get that sub-Overvoid level fodder out of here, Kyle would beat his ass
They also featured that guy who’s obsessed with 2hu vs sonic in the episode in a tongue-in-cheek way and they were the person to produce that blog arguing for boundless Simon or something based on Vs Battles standards a few months back. Their arguments were posted on the wiki and rejected interestingly enough.
Kyle can revive people
Simon can't bring back his wife
KEKAROO
to be fair, it's not like anons in thread without the proper translation weren't already making that same general argument
they were more just banking on things like energy drain and stamina being factors than comparing the life equation to otoko simon's reality-fiction stuff because it would make for a more 'clean' argument to win in the episode
Simon transcends outerverses
holy FUack
There’s no such thing as an “Outerverse”.
Anything with quantized energy really. If a character can "power up" and increase it, that energy is effectively ki/chakra/reiatsu/spiral power. Conveniently all of them tend to have a trait that lets characters overcome hax simply by having more of that energy. The force has midochlorians but it's still not technically quantized because the force is this omnipresent field that already exists beyond space and time.
Simon can he just won't. Kyle is more liberal with raising the dead
Goku clears until superman
Right. I agree with you and thought that you wouldn’t need to make the Otoko argument for even a definitive Simon victory, just bring up how Simon canonically is an entire Multiversal amount of himself and Kyle jobbed to an alternate timeline version of himself getting out of control. I just think the sudden crystallization around this weird audio drama untranslated feat is odd.
False
Does Simon have any feats without the Core Drill?
It was probably just added to counter "le narrative layers" bullshit, which to be honest I'm surprised more people aren't talking about.
this anon might be joking, but based on the logic DB (And Morrison, who wrote all the shit powerscalers love to jack off over,) Simon and Kyle were both put on the level of the Overvoid.
Futures End Green Lantern New Guardians
GLNG 38-40
Post-Johns/Tomasi stuff, of course it cost Kyle the fight. Everyone after them pretty much descaled the comics.
Is this surprising to people? If Simon was really outeversal and could revive anyone, why wouldn’t he just let the Spiral Nemesis happen so he could just redirect everyone after the fact
I'm not saying it is interesting, but it is thematic. Vengeful characters with a ragtag group of friends whose existence is ultimately tied to the main evil faction.
Ttgl sucks
I'm also black and trans, don't know if that matters.
We know, masculine uncucked emotionally mature male
Very ironic sonce ttgl sucks off trannies
(And simon LITERALLY sucked off a tranny)
The Spiral Nemesis explicitly involves everyone becoming things like Simon but without his self-imposed limitations and control and eating each other to bring a definitive end to all existence. Simon holds himself back entirely because doing shit like resurrecting Nia or making broad sweeping changes is exactly how the Spiral Nemesis happens.
Honestly I can say that the audio drama thing is a catastrophe and I’m saying this as a Simonfag who thought that he should have won the second this matchup popped up on the kickstarter. Now every person with a gag feat like the CD can be floated as “arbitrarily powerful” if DB wants to, with a legitimate out for any questioning on their part (since now rewriting yourself from fiction to reality is accepted as something extremely special as if it’s not a very utilized narrative trope)
Again it seems fishy to me.
I thought you guys said he could accelerate anyone and survive anything.
Tank the nemesis, elf everyone die until the universe resets, being back everyone who died now with a fresh start on Spiral Power
i can't wait for the AI to read my brain and know how to min-max the best porn, then that combined with a milking machine and my days will just be sleep, blast, sleep, blast, sleep, blast
They had those box things say 20D was likely a mistranslation. 20D Simon doesn't exist lmao.
That's cuck behavior, I'd bring back wife and live a happy life.
Kyle,don't be a sore loser now
To be clear, White Lantern Kyle is entirely an invention of his New 52 run under Tony Bedard and Justin Jordan, so Kyle was always going to be 'less powerful' in order to be 'more powerful'.
Roxas is for Roxxas.
h-he's holding back
TTGLfags will buy every author statement except for this one kek
He outright says "even if heaven and earth were to turn over" "there is absolutely no route where she could be brought back to life"
Kyle would not fucking say that retard
anon we just saw him throw hands with Kyle and punch his arm so hard it exploded.
wtf you can cook steak like this?
Simon and the Anti-Spiral were pretty close matched once the latter started pulling out full hotblooded Spiral nonsense of its own. Now imagine literally everyone is like that and they're all headset on eating each other. It's not something he can "tank" or fix, because everyone would be like him and constantly growing and consuming each other until nothing remains.
Well Simon IS a cuck so there
By the way
Can you faggots quit with the cvckposting. Simonfags and Kylefags both do it and it's fucking annoying. Simon won, Kyle lost, fight's over, fuck off.
nta but fair
That's not a point about Simon's power, retards. It's a point that the directors of the show NEVER had any intent to bring Nia back - she was meant to die from the very beginning. And even if the idea had crossed Simon's mind, he'd never do it.
Fuck, the show itself even has the characters say that Simon could have stopped it if he wanted to and Simon point-blank admits he could, but he won't.
Cuckscaling is the true measure of a man’s power
A BULL cannot be defeated by a Cuck of any powerlevel. It’s like dimensional tiering.
how fucking long are you going to keep this up? you lost, man.
yeah that’s assuming that there’s a hard cap to spiral power since it would be exhausted by having all those people using it like Simon did
That was with the core drill in his hand
These threads are entirely /dbs/posters and bots with maybe one or two actual people mixed in. It's pointless to try and discuss anything here.
“even if heaven and earth were to turn over” seems a lot more like it’s about the plot than director wishes, lil bro
Fags look down on him thinking he'll be another snack for capeshit
Proceeds to sweep DBcast
Sweeps G1Blog
Yoko's VA cheers him on
Swipes speed trophy from the toonfags
Gets the best music for his matchup
Bodies DC's entire cosmology in one go with another near perfect post analysis sweep
Has any death battle participant flexed this hard?
Yes, the ones who aren’t cuckolds.
Just live with it anon. The indomitable human spirit succumbs to the same thing at the end.
Objectively speaking no. Like if you mean solely in terms of embarrassing then Superman to Goku in GVS2 but that ep just felt spiteful
Popeye Vs Saitama and SpongeBob vs Aqualad are pretty close. although in the latter they were very open about how fucked AL was
Simon isn't God
THEN WHY GIVE HIM THE POWERS OF ONE YOU DUMB FUCKS?
Thats me in there with Yoko, by the way.
....I wish.
The first part is about the director’s imperative. The part where there’s “no route” is saying that it doesn’t even make narrative sense for Simon to be able to do that.
that’s assuming that there’s a hard cap to spiral power
There explicitly isn't. But what we are told of the Spiral Nemesis in the novelization is that everyone would turn into something akin to a "living galaxy" of raw spiral power then they'd devour each other, eventuallying consuming all existence. They'd endlessly grow and consume until nothing remained. Simon can't stop this for the same reason hs couldn't fingersnap the Anti-Spiral out of existence at his strongest - they would be peers to him.
has the anti-cuck force and can turn any BULL or BVLL into a gay faggot
Boyce is the stongest
devour each other, eventuallying consuming all existence. They'd endlessly grow and consume until nothing remained.
This means there’s an ending to spiral power since it can eat itself. If it was truly limitless, it wouldn’t be able to be consumed totally.
Oh my fucking god the AS said that abuse of Spiral Power would cause destruction of the universe, how hard is that to understand.
toon matchups are just lol funneh and no one can take it seriously
But if Spiral Power escaktaed and stays, doenst that mean at this point he’s constantly STTGL/Final Drill level. In tha case, he can kill those people in like 10 punches. Assuming he doesn’t grow ten times as strong just from bf Ih bring them
The point, narratively and per WOG (and not the out of context quote you cherrypicked), is that Simon /has/ the power but he will not use it for the purposes of just bringing Nia back. That is the shit the Anti-Spirals warned against; the abuse of Spiral Power to solve every little woe or misery eventually snowballing until everything ends in the Spiral Nemesis. It would start with him bringing his wife back, then keep escalating from there.
Cuckposting is /DBG/'s greatest strength chud
On a serious note is there ANYTHING impressive Wil E did? Tom is Galaxy/ asteroid with out Gacha scaling. Is Wil E going to get stomped by Mr Anon Babble?
Definitely Tom's fight to lose.
If you mean fight wise of course as Simon VS Kyle was super close. Accolades wise no. He not only beat a super wanked Kyle to the point he was just composite DC the character but utterly blew out the Spongebob speed feat by orders of magnitude.
Needs more Roxas vs 9S
Fags look down on him thinking he'll be a snack for Looney Tunes
Sweeps G1Blog
Spike's VA cheers him on
Swipes speed trophy from the animefags
Gets the best music for his matchup
Bodies DC's entire cosmology (via Coyote scaling) in one go with another near perfect post analysis sweep
Fucks Yoko Littner
Has any death battle participant flexed this hard?
You are talking to /dbs/ and DC capeshit ESL powerscalers. These creatures are subhuman at best and cannot comprehend the idea of anything not functioning like how those settings work. If they aren't exactly like DB or DC in terms of mechanics, then they're "weak" and any context or nuance is meaningless.
Will Tom get his stand for the episode?
So ignoring that you’re admitting that if Simon were to bring back his wife literally everything dies (meaning he can’t do it), you don’t provide any evidence and are ignoring that there isn’t any route for Simon to bring Nia back according to the aforementioned quote. To claim it’s “cherrypicking” is to ignore the very fact that Simon in moving on in death has to accept that even with all his powers death is an inevitability, and trying to overcome death is itself a folly since it eventually comes for all life in the universe (Spiral Nemesis). Making Simon this infinite omnipotent God isn’t the point of the series, the entire essence of the narrative is his humanity.
FUARK!
I thought you guys said he has willpower, can he not just stop at bringing back Nia and end it there
NTA but it's not the act of bringing her back that will kill everybody. It's treated as a slippery slope. Like Batman killing someone goes out of control or some shit.
Where did you fond this picture of me?
per WOG (NO NOT THAT ONE)
“NEW BIG BRO???”
Oh so NOW there's a fucking limit to Spiral Power huh. You cunts have been squealing about how Simon was a walking NLF for weeks to the point DB outright made him one. But NOW all of a sudden its "no they can't abuse Spiral Power it'll destroy everything".
Go fuck yourself. I hope this fucking cvckposting Pajeet is a permanent poster in these threads. You faggots deserve him.
fags look down on him thinking he'll job once again to be fed to another DC herald
lost the DB cast
lost the G1Blog
everyone keeps joking about his jobber status during the wait
Black Adam's movie was going to come out so they needed a shill matchup
despite all that he won the fight
gave Black Adam the most humiliating death
fucked up a future Death Battle with his win
defeated The Rock's no-lose clause
showed everyone the true power of the Jobber-Force
I’m aware. But that also means that Simon can’t do the same as “bringing everyone who has died back to life” like an actual God like Christ can because he’s a human at the end, not God. The acceptance of self-control and discipline is the point of the juxtaposed acceptance of evolution and growth. One out of balance with the other is death.
Stick to anime Mr. Jeet
He has anime “willpower”, like screaming and crying a lot and saying faux deep instagram quotes and getting the powerlevelz handed to him for being speshul but also worshipping his senpai.
Not, like, real world willpower you use to act like a man in everyday life. Dude literally watched his bully fuck his bitch and did nothing. That scream “strong will” to you?
Why does Simon not want to abuse his power and move on? what do you mean he's not selfish and doesn't want to play God
Spiral power can in fact do anything, but the point of the final few episodes is that having that form of power leaves you with a responsibility to use it for good and not selfish desires.
THAT LENGTH…I CANT COMPETE! JUST TAKE NIA ALREADY BIG BRO *runs off like a girl to dress as and copy Tom forever*
b-but the director wanted a 2deep4u ending...
Okay, but again, why is Nia the slippery slope? Can’t he just bring her back and say “Kay, done”
Sounds like an addict
Spiral Nemesis
it will never happen, you can use Spiral Power all you want
I think Guts vs Dimitri should have been Dimitri vs Claude vs Edelgard.
are you blind, mother fucker? yes it CAN do anything, but the point the AS said that abusing it can lead to the universe imploding. you're given the powers of literal god and you have to try and not abuse it? is that so hard to understand? that selfishness leads to consequences?
Good like healing a sick and suffering girl from an early death?
Or is it only a 2deep4u “point” when it’s simon screaming like a bitch and going “le mega ultra giga kamina full cowling detroit smash drill breeeaaaakkk!!!!”
FUARK THIS WAS ALWAYS THE CASE
having that form of power leaves you with a responsibility to use it for good
Wouldn’t the good be “removing all poverty, giving everyone an afterlife, remove all pain and evil,” etc.?
But he can’t do that because… everything would explode or something. Because the status quo prevails.
If it can do anything it could prevent a universe from imploding.
simon has INFINITE WILLPOWER but thinks reviving one person means he won't be able to stop himself
KEKAROO
Simon can do anything but if he does too much anything the universe explodes and he can’t stop it but that isn’t included in the anything
So he brings someone back to life one time…. And for some reason, that’s the same as using it to nuke your enemies?
I think it should have been Dimitri vs Luca Blight
I see we're at peak media literacy hours.
Spiral Nemesis is not in this episode
FUARK IT JUST WENT AWAY
Because then "why doesn't he just revive everyone?" becomes the question. And that will escalate into "why don't we all just start training to use Spiral Power so we can solve all our problems forever" which will become "why can't we use Spiral Power to solve suffering as a whole" which becomes "why can't we use Spiral Power to get rid of stuff (people) we don't like" which then turns into "why can't we use Spiral Power to get rid of stuff *I* don't like" and so on and so forth. That's the Spiral Nemesis. It is the inevitable temptation that when given infinite power, people's greed will win out over their better natures and they will abuse it for every little thing until they are searching for problems where none exist.
Something the cuck and /dbs/posters are forgetting is that EVERYTHING is a ,ember of a Spiral Race in TTGL - the Anti-Spiral themselves were Spirals until their fear of the Spiral Nemesis drove them to negative their own Spiral natures.anyone and anything can become like Simon with the proper incentive and motivation, and that's the danger of it.
Literally a liberal defense against Simon defending the status quo in saying “once you get ultimate power you’re not supposed to use it.”
Like, “if you kill your enemy, they win” type logic. It’s retarded.
Wouldn't Ashnard map better?
Technically Simon was the Spiral Nemesis
That’s the opposite of self control
No will
Rhett Caan always fucked Yoko and Nia in front of Cucky Simon
Chowder has to beat Nia and Yoko off with a stick
No you can't just fucking say it'll do anything but can't stop everything from becoming a singularity. Have you SEEN the shit Simon and the AS were getting up to in their final battle? I don't believe you for a fucking second after all of that happened and reality is still intact.
Spiral Nemesis is a nothingburger.
Did Rick and Morty ever reference the Death Battle?
"Greed and abuse of power is bad" is apparently controversial to say now
That means that there isn’t a possibly perfect state of affairs that Simon can actualize even with infinite spiral power, which means that any character that creates a perfect state of affairs (a utopia with no suffering or death effectively, what happens with Aslan at the Final Battle for example) BTFOs Simon in actual maturity, willpower, and intelligence.
If it implies you can be corrupted form a single act, yeah.
I am not sure why this is so difficult for people to understand. They went from caveman to super futuristic society in like seven year. Then someone Simon went from below moon level to transcendental infinite power in like a day. When you cross certain boundaries you shouldn't then more people fuck with shit they shouldn't and it goes nuts from there.
Eventually it'd be like having every single organism leapfrog to The Presence level all at once and existence just has a stroke
The Anti-Spiral was just a schizo grifter forcing his conspiracy theories on the multiverse.
Kyle had meta knowledge of Gurren Lagann
loses
Rick has meta knowledge of Doctor Who
loses
CHADow has meta knowledge of Kill La Kill
wins
BOW YOUR HEAD LOW
Spiral Nemesis is a nothingburger.
Lordgenome literally confirmed it was real and that the AS wasn't schizophrenic
Now you see what I mean when I tell you ttglcucks are Low Iq manchildren who cannot read into things for themselves, they just repeat what the anime tells them to say without sentient thought about it
Eventually it'd be like having every single organism leapfrog to The Presence level all at once and existence just has a stroke
Couldn't Simon just remove spiral power then or weaken conceptually so that wouldn't happen?
SISSYdow had to punch down against a woman
KEKAROO!
The point isn't that Simon will be the one fucking everything up, you retard. The point is that as soon as he would have brought back Nia, he'd have proven that enough Spiral Power can be used to just cheat death. As soon as everyone realized that Spiral Power can be used to lulnope basic facts of existence and ignore death for their families and loved ones, it would become a rat race for everyone to become so strong they can ensure the safety of all the things they care about, which would inevitably turn into them abusing that power for completely selfish reasons and inevitably destroying one another.
Simon could retire to some backwater on the edge of existence after reviving Nia and do nothing else forever, and the Spiral Nemesis would still happen regardless because he'd have roven that there's nothing stopping people from doing whatever they want.
DC Bros, if you're mad that Simon won, read the TTGL Victim Girls doujin ”Imprison me” in heaven by Asanagi.
the mobile game referenced it with that Rick coming from another universe and the playable Rick confirms he's one of the weakest
No it's the fact that "Spiral Power can do anything BUT-" that's chapping everyone's ass. For a month you've said Simon can do whatever he likes and how he has no limit, but NOW, once the DB episode is OVER and he WON, suddenly its "actually he can't just do whatever be wants".
You are either retarded, or a fucking hypocrite.
Don't forget Discord having meta knowledge of Gravity Falls and still losing
Lordgenome's headcanon isn't real.
They’ll realise that for themselves
The Word of God is that Simon just couldn’t do it, in capability.
Already have. One of my favorites.
Link?
It’s difficult to understand because the argument is that Simon can’t even do one thing that’s extremely minimal in the state of affairs he has already done (how is “reviving one dead person” any worse than blowing up universes?) because of a slippery-slope, which implies that he with his infinite willpower wouldn’t be able to stop the descent into chaos that would occur by just doing one relatively small act.
And even then, if spiral power truly is infinite and can do everything, why couldn’t everyone just wish together to live forever if spiral power is willpower? If everyone is infinitely willful, why would they consume each other if they would be able to exert perfect control over themselves and others like Simon did? Or, if Simon already evolved beyond everyone else and is constantly evolving (assuming there’s no hard cap he’ll hit that will allow everyone else to catch up, since spiral power is allegedly infinite), why wouldn’t he just stop everyone from destroying each other? And why is spiral power being exhausted and consumed totally if it’s infinite in the first place?
It’s all retarded.
could Simon remove the very source of his power when even the Anti-Spiral proves that isn't possible even if you literally purge your very nature as a Spiral Race
You are asking fundamentally retarded questions that the show directly addresses, which you'd know if you watched it. Classic DCshitter behavior.
Luca is interestingly a dark mirror of Dimitri, with the whole "prince witnesses a politically motivated ambush massacre of his family while young and this taints his soul with the drive for revenge" and "wields family relic/heirloom strongly associated with beasts and possibly wolves in particular" and "generally viewed as a one-man army and slaughterer"
I lied, you fell for my greatest ability and I have now won
picrel
Holy shit that's fucking dark.
It's a simple yes or no simonfag. Can he or can he not remove/weaken the concept of spiral power so it doesn't allow people to abuse it
What part of self control is confusing to you? It's not a matter of can/can't. It's won't.
So it CANT do anything, including something as simple as genetic modification. Got it.
You can’t see it but Nia’s smiling behind him cause she’s gonna be a concubine to a REAL man now
What a surprise. A TTGLfag using the "everyone is a DCcvck" defense when pressed.
DCfags are acting even more brain damaged than usual
Simon must've hit em in the head too hard
He destroys all these frauds effortlessly.
DCfags are the single most retarded posters on this entire site and will argue that "it's only retarded when other media does it" until they're blue in the face. I think these faggots have literally forgotten that DC's most popular character in the past several decades is literally a what-if Batman killed the Joker storyline turned real, which caused Bruce to turn into a genocidal schizophrenic literally days after it happened because of "MUH JOKER HEART VIRUS". Simon at least has an actual genuine concern that was there from the very fucking beginning of the show behind why he doesn't fix all the problems forever.
You are retarded if you think criticizing a stupid shonen story decision (which is a dime-a-dozen) automatically makes you a fan of DC garbage, which often is even worse.
why couldn’t everyone just wish together to live forever
population growth is still a thing
world becomes beyond China levels of crowded, you constantly bump into someone else
So you're a hypocrite. Got it. Go fuck yourself and pray TTGL never gets a DB episode ever again for as long as you live.
She looks fucking TRAUMATIZED what the fuck are you talking about?
Does this look like a smiling girl?
DC's entire cosmology lost. Cope.
They do this every fucking time when anything remotely challenges them (even when it isnt even DC fighting - see Heracles vs Wukong). It's just even worse than normal now because they actually definitively lost forever so now they're trying to cope after the fact by searching for shit to "invalidate" the matchup.
Loads of characters BTFO simon in willpower and intelligence. Most characters in fiction, frankly. And most real world people who aren’t soiboy shonenweebs.
Simon only has “strong willpower” because the manga says he does, same how deku is said by mha to be a paragon exemplar of heroism and masculinity.
For a month you've said Simon can do whatever he likes and how he has no limit, but NOW, once the DB episode is OVER and he WON, suddenly its "actually he can't just do whatever be wants".
you actual fucking retard it is canonically stated that spiral power can do anything, yes Simon DOES have the power to do anything, he's just a moralfag that uses it for what's morally right. and before you ask
then why did he kill kyle
it's fucking death battle what did you expect
so this is the reason Deathbattle will never have Superman lose
DC fans would go so utterly insane they might bomb their studios
I think it’s supposed to be like Getter Robo Armageddon futyre
They already had Cosmic Armor Superman get DRILLED.
Show me Simon EVER exercising restraint in spiral powers for this reason before the hackneyed faux-deep ending
which would inevitably turn into them abusing that power for completely selfish reasons and inevitably destroying one another.
But Spiral Power is willpower, so them getting to that point ought to have made them willful enough to have self-control to the point where they wouldn’t exert anything excessively, especially since they can see all timelines and therefore should be infinitely knowledgeable about what they ought to do to continue their own existence. Not to mention that “absorbing infinite copies of yourself” is also infinitely a bigger thing than bringing one single person back to life, not to mention that if spiral power was truly infinite, then Simon would be capable of continually growing without a hard cap allowing him to defeat anyone from growing to his level because he already had an infinite headstart, etc.
Claiming a whataboutism with regard to capeshit everyone already agrees is trash is a waffle. You’re claiming that it’s 2deepforu bullshit when it’s the same drivel as other shonen.
She looks like she’s got love hearts in her eyes cuz the beastman released her from this hell of being shackled to Cucky Simon lmao
If Simon can make galaxies and spiral space , why doesn’t everyone just live there?
e-everyone I talk to is a DCvck!
Take your fucking meds.
Iron Man
Simon the Digger
Dr Doom
Apocalypse
Silver Surfer
Spongebob
Our HEROES against the eternal DC COSMOLOGY.
Retard, Simon as STTGL was beyond time and space and was an infinite multiverse. Why would “population space” matter when everyone would become immortal thought-forms.
In this case it's willpower (self-control)
All this crying is irrelevant. Kyle SHARTner lost and DC kneels to Anon Babble.
I'd like to remind everyone of when DCtards started spazzing out before Sonic vs Flash released because they started realising the match was way closer than expected and they were all terrified Sonic was going to win. The faggots were losing their shit.
If someone has caps post them. If they don't then just check the archives. Thread after thread of coping and raging. Over a hypothetical loss.
Another day of DCfags being mind broken over getting defeated so easily
Oh my god I thought DCfags would understand this shit better since Batfag has a similar moral code.
Pretty much. Not that it matters much, since Kyle "Composite DC Cosmology Man" Rayner lost so fucking hard that putting any Simon level or greater opponent against a DC character is only adding to the preexisitng seethe tally. Superman is small potatoes in comparison, but the big blowout would come less from the powerlevels and more that Superman is the imaginary father figure for these psychopaths, so him losing would draw actual murderous rage.
Kamina will save us!
yes Simon DOES have the power to do anything
can't change spiral power so that it couldn't nuke reality if people abused it
Wow. Seems like he can't actually do anything.
We also think Batfag’s code is retarded. Everyone does
Are you fucking retarded? I wasn't speaking about why he killed Kyle in a Death Battle.
I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW SUDDENLY HE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF SOME SHIT THE AS MADE UP.
If you have the power of a god like Simon does, then just stop the Spiral Nemesis from happening.
We criticise Batfag over it all the time and his fans don’t act like squealing pigs because “y-you didn’t get it the show said so!”
Because they can actually think about things for themselves, like grown men do
HE COME TO TOWN!
Hold on - think I still have one or two screencaps from when I sued to actively post here.
DCfags have been proven several times to not even read their own comics. They get all their info from VS debating sites. And their sheer hatred of non-DC media means they engage with that even less.
Why doesn't Superman solve every problem in the world? He's meant to be so fast, strong, smart and haxxed right?
He's not that strong
I like DC but it's vs fans are the worst fuckers ever. They unironically like characters like Anti-Monitor purely for they're power level (Anti-Spiral stomps AM btw)
ONE MORE TIME
Nia couldn't see what happened, but suddenly her shackles were free, and her captor was on the floor without a hint of movement.
"H-huh?"
A blue cat in a very nice outfit stood above her, looking down without any words. Only a smile.
"T-thank you... sir."
"DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT."
Okay, Simonfags, you need to fucking realize that not everyone asking you about "why Simon doesn't do [x]" is a DCfag.
Take your meds and then come back here. You all look like retards.
He understands the ethics of the centralization of power and the fine line between that an autocracy
DCfags have been proven several times to not even read their own comics.
GvS3 is a great example of this actually. IIRC they used a scan of Superman opening a portal for a speed feat (the whole 'distance is irrelevant to me now' thing) and they cited the World Forger feat which was debunked by DC.
Yeah, I have this one.
The Flash is so fast he could check in on every person on the planet every hour and still only spend 1 second doing so
Why do bad things still happen in DC?
Anon it's over just move on...
It’s idolatry. It’s no different than the Superfags who always say “Superman can do anything he’s limitless he can solve any issue and even defeated death”.
It’s an unhealthy obsession with a bad story. CS Lewis solved the problem Simon couldn’t.
Anti-Spiral stomps AM btw
You stupid nigger, don't you even go there.
OHNONONONONONONONONONO
Guess DCfags aren't the only illiterate ones.
If the Flash can travel through time, why doesn't he go back and prevent the holocaust?
If Superman can do anything, why doesn't he just kill Lex Luther? is he stupid?
Why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker?
C.S. Lewis out of nowhere
Aslan mentioned for no reason previously
Why is this one DC schizo obsessed with Narnia for some fucking reason and why does he keep comparing it to Simon?
What did CS Lewish have Aslan do?
Why doesn't Simon just go back in time and kill the Anti Spiral species? Is he stupid?
Anti-spiral goes on about this cosmic issue he believes in
Simon kills him for his crimes but tells him to believe in humanity to overcome it
Simon doesn't endlessly abuse his godlike power after this and lets the new generation grow by themselves
Seems obvious to me
room for one more
To avoid another Flashpoint shitshow.
He's weak.
He's retarded.
B-because we CANNOT...
This little BITCH gets raped by the Absolute Solver.
Another ring for the loser drawer
We also can't forget the time Otto fucking broke down and went on a violent tirade about Flatland, Sonic being rigged to win, and how much he hated Sonic fans and other non-DC properties over a fanficiton battle.
doesn't just kill/solve the Spiral Nemesis
just some bullshit wannabe optimism message
Pretty gay.
Screencap?
Simon believers
needing the validation of anyone
Why would we need your validation? Our series is well-liked, our characters are supreme and we actually watched the show. Most of you vs faggots only pretend to be fans (especially comic fags) because you're severely autistic and obsessed with "Muh character beats yours!" Your brain is so filled with vs terms that you're daily dose of media is just tiers and calcs. Gurren Lagann is one of the few powerful series to have actual fans.
doesn't just kill
DCfag doesn't even understand what the Spiral Nemesis is
Why doesn't Superman just think of a way to cure cancer? Is he not strong enough to do that?
You see? I can play this game, too.
Yes Superman isn't that strong.
>doesn't just kill/solve the Spiral Nemesis
Why don't you go kill poverty and resource scarcity bro? Must be easy.
.>Simon: Got his ass fingered by a little boy in the uncut version of TTGL episode 6
Kyle: Got raped by Bueno Excellente
These are your Heroes?
Goku, after Popeye touches him once
our series
our characters
we
Get over your high horse. Fictional obsession is a symptom of autism.
No screencap, but I just went in the archive and searched up his name and found these.
desuarchive.org
desuarchive.org
desuarchive.org
ttglfags realizing in real time their show has shit writing and simon has limits
Simon also let the tranny Leeron fuck him consensually and kissed him. You see it in the flashes in episode 26
DCfags being extra spergy today.
Oh but I thought there were no limits to his powers! are you saying he can't "do anything"?
U thought you said Simon can make stars and planets. So why can’t he create water
DCopers crying about anyone else being obsessed with fiction
Week long meltdown over the idea a cartoon hedgehog beats a guy in red spandex btw
>ttglfags realizing in real time their show has shit writing and simon has limits
Who Superman? Yeah dude's pretty mid tier.
K,b,c.
mfw DCfags have a melty
Screams "MY WIFE IS THE BEST IN THE UNIVERSE SWING" as the battle is being broadcast across the cosmos, across dimensions, the whole universe could probably hear it
Would you even be mad if someone you were married to did that?
They're always like this when a debate might have DC or DC-adjacent character losing (because Otto views everything through the lens of fucking DC and interprets all media in that lense, so his close followers do the exact fucking same). It's just that they ACTUALLY lost this time and so completely that there's no coming back from this so they have thoroughly lost all restraint.
No. Cuz I'd be dead.
It's a fucking mid show that gets raped by Eva in terms of quality and timeless message. You Simonfags don't actually care about the show's message or its characters, I know this because you harp on and on about how strong Simon is and how he can "beat anyone". Go fuck yourselves. You're no better than people who like capeshit. You're no better than the sheep that watch Disney. I have more respect for DragonBallfags than you.
Kill yourself, or take your meds. And especially go fuck yourselves for ruining the hype period for the episode. Shove a drill up your ass you FAGGOT.
I understand it's a literal nothingburger used by the AS to try and break Simon.
I'm sorry do I have godly powers like Simon does? You dirty streetshitting subhuman filth? I hope your scamcall center gets blown up.
I understand it's a literal nothingburger
Yep. 100% did not watch the show and is just shitting himself because DC lost. Pack it up.
Simonfags and Kylefags should all FUCKING KILL THEMSELVES.
exactly. even gods have limits. morally and literally.
It wasn't Simon who said that you idiotic cretin.
It's a fucking mid show that gets raped by Eva in terms of quality and timeless message. You Simonfags don't actually care about the show's message or its characters, I know this because you harp on and on about how strong Simon is and how he can "beat anyone". Go fuck yourselves. You're no better than people who like capeshit. You're no better than the sheep that watch Disney. I have more respect for DragonBallfags than you.
Kill yourself, or take your meds. And especially go fuck yourselves for ruining the hype period for the episode. Shove a drill up your ass you FAGGOT.
I understand it's a literal nothingburger used by the AS to try and break Simon.
I'm sorry do I have godly powers like Simon does? You dirty streetshitting subhuman filth? I hope your scamcall center gets blown up.
Rewrites reality so school girls aren't raped by their male teachers
The Hero death battle deserves.
assuming I like capeshit
I hope you get castrated just for that. How fucking dare you assume I read that ESL shit? Get the FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD.
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Watch a real show instead of mediocrity you Simonfags. I'd tell you Kylefags the same if he had more than one animated appearance.
gets raped by Eva in terms of quality
What type of moronic phrasing is this? How does something "get raped in terms of quality"? Talk like a human.
this is Simon's BULL
Dayakka said that. Nia was still Simon's fiancé at the time. But it's amazing how love makes you insanely overpowered in TTGL
Anti-TTGLfags mysteriously appearing out of nowhere solely to seethe at the guy who won
I wonder which franchise’s fanbase that just got raped could be responsible for this.
DCtards aren't human.
I, THE HUMBLE SUPERMAN, PROSTATE MYSELF BEFORE SIMON-SAMA (also known as LORD SIMON in English) FOR SHOWING ME HOW TO BE PART OF A STORY THAT ESCALATES AND DE-ESCALATES WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THE STATUS QUO. I HEREBY CEASE MY NEVER-ENDING COMIC RUN AND UNIVERSE SO THAT I WILL NOT PLAGUE FICTION WITH MY NONSENSE, NEVERENDINGLY WANKED (but surprisingly tiny and weak) COSMOLOGY EVER AGAIN... I ALSO APOLOGIZE FOR FAILING TO UNDERSTAND THE SIMPLE THEMES OF GURREN LAGANN, AS I'VE SPENT EXCESSIVE TIME USING MY SUPER FLEXIBILITY TO HUFF MY OWN FARTS...
Uh oh, DCfag melty.
Popeye Vs Saitama was not close. And I’m not even relying on any “toonforce” wank arguments or "lol he can do what ever he wants". Quite literally, Saitama had no wins con, none. Nothing in his arsenal then or now can beat Popeye. Honestly, Popeye probably could’ve beaten him even in base form. The moment Saitama touched him, he would've been transmuted into something ridiculous. That was a spite match 100%.
I know Dayakka was the one who said it, why do you think I posted him and his wife?
Women hands wrote this
remember semi reading this like years ago and now i found it again. Deranged.
I wonder if Anti Spiral would canonically come for Nia later and vaporize all these beastmen.
Simple. Eva's just better.
That good enough or do I need to type like a retard for you to understand?
Kek I remember when Superman said this.
It DEFINITELY couldn't be the same crowd of fucking losers who suffered a mental breakdown over a hedgehog's hypothetical victory. That would be ridiculous!
He solved the Spiral Nemesis issue as a side effect of getting his plan to work, it’s just that he was stopped by other people because it was “immoral” or whatever. Beats Simon accidentally.
He's saying Popeye flexing on Saitama came close to how hard Simon flexed on DCjeets
Your family deserves to die if you think I read comics.
How did you leak the EOS message for Warner Brothers before Disney bought them out?
I just looked it up for context, jesus christ I feel like vomiting.
Eva
Are you a teenager troon?
This discussion is way funnier than the cuckposting, keep going.
Maruki was unironically right
the protags have no idea of how fucked up life is due to their priviledged existence in tokyo japan.
No. This is effectively what the Anti-Spirals would prefer.
M-my s-superfriends... Yoko just kissed me...
That's what DCfags get off to btw
Nia is weird as the edge case imo because she's dying to space mumbo jumbo, that's not even a normal human cause of death. Is it really crossing the line to even remove the space mumbo jumbo for a finite human lifespan like SRW?
Wallysisters why do the SoniCHADS continue reminding the threads of our week long psychotic episode…….
Remember thst there is nothing stronger than the human spirit
Keep saying it, DCtoddler. I'm sure you're not crying at all.
DCbros how could this happen to us...
Sanae would do that too
Is it just "bad guys win and Nia/Yoko are sex slaves"?
ouch
sadge
well, that world is better off vaporized, or destroyed somehow by prime simon absorbing the labyrinth
Pretty much.
If my wife did that for me I'd be hyped and only be mad that I wasn't with her punching space satan in the face too
K, b, c.
I guess it's because OPM is a satire subversion of shonen anime, that him being bald. we all knew Saitama was fucked since day one and I swear on my fucking life I remember there were unironic OPM fags that thought he could win. I thought Simon vs Kyle a stomp, but Saitama vs Popeye is a tank running over your foot
It wasn't that bad
Superman isn't a god lmao
Lucky bastard.
sometimes bad ends are so depressocore that its not even worth jacking off to anymore.
Like bad ends can be hot as fuck with some heroine being brainwashed into a villianess and all, but this? Just makes me wonder what the hell is up in the author's head.
Many threads ago someone said that Rossiu was analogous to a certain figure in Christianity and it made me seriously rethink him through. With Simon (essentially the spiral messiah) being the one to forgive him absolving him of his sins and he still thought Rossiu was the one fit to lead humanity despite all the trouble that happened along the way, I can't remember which person the anon said Rossiu was analogous to though. Are you still there? Who was it?
you're demented, you know that?
Listtroon…
Oh, well, now I feel stupid.
dont listroon me bad ends need balance to still be hot
this is just grimdark
He's a DCfag melting down because a character from a comic run he certainly did not read lost in a fanfiction webshow. What did you expect?
TRVTH NVKE
S-Superman isn't a GOD!
He can just fly to the end of the universe and back!
And sneeze solar systems away!
And can be immortal!
And can benchpress planets!
And fight and beat higher dimensional beings!
And even beat literal gods by warping reality with his super voice!
But he isn't a GOD!
W-Why does he look like Kuririn?!?
Superman doesn't solve contemporary issues because most of his stories do not presume to tackle this subject, being lighthearted scifi written for kids.
Later stories that do presume to tackle this, present a nuanced intelligent thought experiment as this subject deserves. For example Superman: Peace on Earth which counters that though Superman can provide food he cannot counter nations that will not accept american intervention for reasons of national security and longstanding bloodfeuds, without being forced to go to war for one side of humanity and destroying the other.
Alternate stories such as Superman Red Son demonstrate what we all know in fact: Superman COULD solve these issues, but in doing so he would betray his ideals by resorting to a stalinesque police state where all those who disobey must be put down.
Meta stories such as Miracleman, demonstrate that although a Superman could fix scarcity, provide power and build centuries-long infrastructure in milliseconds, this would betray the very nature of comicbook heroism. Turning something fun and innocent and happy into something grotesque and adult and depressing. A genre in which superheroes just don't belong and shouldn't be forced into.
Simon doesn't fix contemporary issues because his midwit author wanted a hackneyed excuse for the audience selfinsert to look like a "wise" and "deep" homeless buddha after an entire series of being a hedonistic shallow screaming manbaby.
Any more questions?
Superman
You mean that guy who got raped by Russians?
As someone that thinks Sonic probably beats Wally a lot of the time, I hate how much Sonic somehow gets powerscaling brainrot from both ends.
Sonic scalers selectively treat outliers that maximize the character they are currently wanking.
Sonic scalers also pretend that the characters are always getting stronger as if they are Dragon Ball characters but always at max power.
With mindbreak.
Personally one of my favourite Superman stories is the one where he gets gangraped in prison.
Simon doesn't fix contemporary issues because his midwit author wanted a hackneyed excuse for the audience selfinsert to look like a "wise" and "deep" homeless buddha after an entire series of being a hedonistic shallow screaming manbaby.
simon in his ending spends his time drilling water holes for towns and teaching kids to drill open coconuts btw
Cucky Simon would love this though bro
especially if he could call their rapists Big Bro
To everyone who assumes I read ESL capeshit, I genuinely hope you get raped. Your families mean nothing. You like fucking your own axe wound. Kill yourselves and make the world a better place. Rape your own pets and then chop your dicks off, you subhuman, streetshitting cvckpost loving fagporn posting WHORES.
Spiritually diseased.
I'm glad Simon won, cuckposters deserve to lose.
I'm sorry, I thought Superman stopped being an Americuck and that whole "American way" bullshit?
can't believe he actually won the matchup
the Anti-Spiral canonically wanted to inflict absolute despair onto humanity, any hypothetical bad end was a possibility if he won. he needed to die and be wiped out from existence across all possible universes. Simon saw right through their tricks and didn't let that happen. he's a hero.
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That’s a lot of words to say “DC writers can’t make a setting that naturally concludes so they just rehash the same stories until they get fired or find a better paying job”
Simon is out there giving me water, which gives me food, and teaching me how to get vital nutrients out of fruits
Superman is fighting wars and propagating them
Damn.
Otto...
It's not a weird case, we just have a definitive limit to what Simon can do with spiral power. Anything he tries to do in preventing Nia's death would presumably lead to the Spiral Nemesis occurring and Simon can't actually deal with any of the ensuing consequences.
I mean it's just misery porn in the most literal sense, idk how people can jack off to human suffering, I like brainwashing but I don't want characters to get a grotesque lobotomy. Also NTR fucking sucks.
in doing so he would betray his ideals by resorting to a stalinesque police state
NOOOOOOOOO I CAN'T HELP PEOPLE ON A BROADER LEVEL THAN BEATING UP WACKY GUYS IN COLORFUL SUITS B-BECAUSE I'LL AUTOMATICALLY TURN INTO LE HECKIN DICTATOR
why is capeslop like this?
NTA but if I had to guess it is probably John the Baptist.
even while being raped Yoko yearns for her first rapist and Simon's BULL
lmaoooooooooooooooo
SuperCHAD
BASED filterer of lesser humanity.
and simon's corpse is used to make a chimera
i think thats the thing that bothered me the most. Messing with the dead is just fucked up even if you're evil.
Comic readers deserve to get crucified. Burned with oil, get thrown into a FUCKING BLENDER.
He's not the only one who ANNIHILATES DestituteComics.
This is literally the same thing DCucks criticize TTGLs ending for lmao they’re so hypocritical
Simon at least has a mid explanation for not solving everything. It would make everything explode. That's an explanation.
In DC, nothing would explode if they did it. Superman and other DC characters keep the status quo for NO reason. What the fug??
Stacking infinities upon infinities
Does it really matter at that point? Infinity is infinity. You can't have more or less of it.
because Superman was literally raised by Stalin in that story
My hero.
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
didnt superkek's son protest climate change when he could fly to the poles and freeze dem icebergs back
jobbed at math
What about the time he got pegged by Lois?
LOL
LMAO
HOW CAN YOU HAVE SUPERHEROES WHO CAN LITERALLY FREEZE THINGS WITH THEIR BREATH BUT STILL HAVE GLOBAL WARMING AS A PROBLEM
Higher infinities and ways to increase the cardinality of infinite sets exist, but DCfags get violently angry if you ever bring those up. Not that it matters since Death Battle also DEFINITELY does not understand how higher infinities work - no algorithmic logic operation (so stacking infinities) can get you to a higher cardinality.
It would make everything explode
Explosions are physical events, why wouldn't Simon just be able to stop it with his omniversal power over space and time?
Because Capeshit worlds are problem worlds. They have the same problems, they need to solve them endlessly, or else they can't keep making slop. It all ties back into how unmoving and unnatural the setting is.
Superfraud and his fellow capeshitters are just a bunch of liars. They aren't pure good, they don't have their shit together and they're all a very real threat to their world's stability and safety. Superheroes do not exist to improve the world, to make it a better place, they exist purely to reinforce and perpetuate the status quo of trash.
They, ironically, are worse people than villains like Palpatine or Freeza who actually enact broad changes in their respective settings by fundamentally altering civilisation to enforce stability, economy, control, etc. Because they aren't scared to wield their power authoritatively, even if they are evil and corrupt psychopaths who abuse that authority.
Personally I'd prefer to live in a world run by Palpatine than I would a world 'protected' by Superman.
And? At the end of the story he realized he was heccin wrong by Brainiac. Why didn't he just continue what he was doing and make the world better without the mass brainwashing?
Instead he let Big Bro Luthor take over and fuck Lois Lane and basically cuck Clark out of helping humanity period. LMAO
Do you know how stupid that sounds? No one actually gives a shit. The concept of infinity is infinity. Its playground logic.
by Asanagi.
no, no, go fuck yourself
You are all now reminded that SMT also probably rapes DC's cosmology to death just as badly as TTGL if it ever gets in, due to Swan's old powerscaling tier chart from way back when. And given the same guy referenced a years old blog for Alucard vs Dio, and we just had Composite DC get drilled by Simon, then there's a good chance we could get the same thing happening if SMT gets in down the line. That is all.
Well more that moneyed interests require the stories to continue under the assumption that it being long running creates an attachment rate. Editors have to bend over backwards to create guidelines for writing staff to follow but often get sidelined themselves by higher ups to give established names like Bendis, Ewing, and Morrison freereign. This in turn puts even more pressure upon other writers to meet the evolving demands.
You didn't read it did you?
Luthor made him realise he went too far, and he sacrificed himself to kill Brainiac who wanted to enslave everyone.
But Clark FAKED his death and was secretly watching over Luthor in his stead, making sure Luthor kept his promise to upkeep the Utopia that Superman built democratically.
Both creating a utopia through terror, then accepting that terror was wrong and abdicating power to someone who would rule through a free vote.
Supersisters, we can’t refute this, and it’s one of the stories DC has made that the public actually knows about too………
look you don't have to like it, but it's understandable to an extent. put yourself in simon's shoes. if god told you that greed and power will lead to the earth's being swallowed by a black hole in a year, would you be scared out of your fucking mind and think twice about everything you do to benefit yourself?
And what would OUR HERO be without the love of his life Fyana?
They, ironically, are worse people than villains like Palpatine or Freeza who actually enact broad changes in their respective settings by fundamentally altering civilisation to enforce stability, economy, control, etc. Because they aren't scared to wield their power authoritatively, even if they are evil and corrupt psychopaths who abuse that authority.
Then you get drafted and go die in their pointless wars lmao. That's where authoritarianism gets the average person.
Countable infinities are countable if given an infinite amount of time.
Uncountable infinites are uncountable even if you were given eternity.
Inaccessible cardinals require us to invent new forms of math to even comprehend what they mean.
There you go.
if i was a manga author id throw in an interview that the goddess of the story makes it so that in every possible timeline the hero isnt alive to end up with her / solve a thing, it all explodes.
That way, every bad end is exploded and ill never feel bad.
Skimmed through disgusting, how can anyone like this? Please don't post anything like this again
I'm curious what is the best matchup for Nanashi? SMT4a is my favorite game but idk who can fit thematically without it being a complete stomp, (frisk undertale)
When will these two BEASTS be unleashed on each other in Death Battle??
I think if I had godlike power I'd just prevent the black hole from swallowing Earth but idk, maybe that would be scary to a nigh omnipotent person
Inaccessible cardinals also have a principle of self-reference that means unless they're explicitly stated to be present, then they basically don't exist in a given work.
That's one of my favourite pieces of Superman lore haha
Luthor made him realise he went too far, and he sacrificed himself to kill Brainiac who wanted to enslave everyone.
But Clark FAKED his death and was secretly watching over Luthor in his stead
Why?
BIG BRO LUTHOR YOU'RE SO HECKIN COOL....
INSTEAD OF ME BEING ABLE TO HELP HUMANITY (which i can do now because i had to learn that mass brainwashing was bad and now i'm le good guy) YOU GET TO DO IT INSTEAD YOU'RE SO FUARKING COOL GIVE LOIS A COUPLE KIDS WHILE YOU'RE AT IT
And this isn't just Red Son. It's mainline continuity too. There's literally no reason as to why Superman doesn't use the fact he's a superfast, superstrong alien genius from another world with tech centuries ahead to not just automatically elevate humanity to a massively advanced civilization where disease and hunger doesn't exist.
So much for all his whinging about how he 'loves' muh Earth so that he can LARP as a fucking journalist
Make shit up
Make up more shit to understand it
When the fuck did the idea of infinity have so many rules thrown at it? Were people really like "infinity isnt infinite enough! How can I make my character sound more than that!?"
The super weapon wasn't your mech...
It was me!
Was hype
its the same as that marvel comic where everyone is miserable or dead
spiderman gets cancer from the bite, the avengers die, all mutants are prisoners or experimented on, galactus starves, etc. etc.
but yeah its just the depresso core vore gore brainwave.
curious what is the best matchup for Nanashi?
Someone else who has died or was near death and got revived by a borderline malicious cosmic entity, presumably. Someone like Ghost Rider or Jackie Estacado maybe, but those fights are still stomps even if you give them peak scaling.
DCbros… we can’t refute this…….
How could anybody genuinely dislike this?
I ain't even seen cuckyjeet around much, think he resigned in defeat
look whether you're a DCfag or a TTGLfag can we at least all agree that NTR and Guro is disgusting and people who make (or get off to it) should be beat to death. vanilla is best, right?
yeah
Could've grown old with Nia btw
yeah that's why I like to make jokes about it since it implies my opponents love it so much
I agree but Ben would Disagree
When they listed how Simon resists all of Kyle's big haxes (will sap, time travel, existence erasure), the 12 dimensional anti-monitor scaling got me a little sweaty, but I could tell they'd run with Simon's evolution countering it
"old-timer"
is actually only early 40's
Y-yeah well you get to be trained, given military equipment, state of the art medicare and a job killing people with bros! Meanwhile I get to sit in my cuckshed praying to god that the latest villain attack doesn't ruin my life forever! And I get to watch the villain live to cause more shit in the future!
Uhh okay...
FUCKING HATE COMICS DON'T EVER FUCKING ASSUME I READ ESL SLOP CAPESHIT EVER AGAIN YOU DIRTY SUBHUMAN STREETSHITTERS DON'T EVER PUT ME ON THE SAME LEVEL AS A KYLEFAG YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS.
tr/a/nimes mindbroken over children's serial entertainment
As expected.
NTR is not as bad as Guro cuz its more grey.
Would you consider the hero's brainwashed wife a cheater after being made to believe she was always the villian's lover?
Also sometomes NTR comes from pairings being a bit unbalanced in attractiveness. Like how Pyra was wayy too good looking for Rex in Xenoblade 2. (but then Rex became a gigachad in XB3)
Guro is just fucking with the dead, which is fucked up no matter what.
make shit up
Count 1 to 2 in decimals.
The DCfag screams in pain as it hits you.
Wow is that HAL JORDAN knocking down BATMAN, a HUMAN with NO POWERS, with a SINGLE PUNCH? Holy FUARK he's strong!
pictured: the last ever crossover between marvel and DC
Because superheroes actively refuse to solve actual problems. The same shit happens in Marvel. IIRC Reed Richards literally states he doesn't provide cures and advancements because the world would 'become dependent' on him.
"With great power comes great responsibility"
They say. But what does that matter if you don't use that power at all? Why do superheroes make it so that they stop being their own people with their own agencies? There is nothing morally wrong with using your power to make a difference. It's not playing god to do anything at all.
DCeethe
This isnt about numbers. Its the IDEA OF INFINITY ITSELF. If you say a character is infinite. Are you really gonna try and disprove it with math? No, you are not.
you get to be trained, given military equipment, state of the art medicare and a job killing people with bros
T-thanks Palpatine
doesn't just teach people how to do the shit he does
doesn't just train people to become nearly as skilled as he is able to be
doesn't even try
capeshit lol
I remember reading this comic. Thought it was a little strange even if I agree.
Strange how the world didn’t become dependent on the countless scientists we have who discovered cures for diseases the black plague…….
FUCKING KILL ALL COMICFAGS I HOPE YOU ALL FUCKING DIE FUCKING ESL CAPESLOP FUCKING STREETSHITTERS GO BACK TO INDIA
Nobody "disproves" anything here though. Infinity is infinity. It's just that there are higher infinities.
Nah while powerscalers have latched onto it, these mathematical theories have existed in the the 18 and 1900's.
What we are mostly dealing with is the ramifications of artists becoming surface level interested in these concepts and introducing references to them in their works in order to make things sound more impressive. This isn't a moral failing of course, they don't mean to seed any sort of agenda with it.
The issue in the space of our hobby is that we always on selectively apply our physics and mathematics to give the best interpretation for whatever character we are scaling. Of course a true application of these concepts becomes impossible in a majority of cases because the narratives we draw from hardly abide them.
To bring up a more grounded example, the gravity chamber in Dragon Ball. If it really is increasing the force of gravity by a hundred times you would expect it to cause the very air around Vegeta to become a superfluid or crystaline quasimetal on the floor of the chamber.
But that would be silly, so we rightly assume Toriyama intended it to be some vaguely impressive number to indicate how serious Vegeta is.
The world did then people decided the scientists were all liars lmfao
We in a post-truth world these days
Yeah that guy went to war and died in a war machine, killed by people actively trying to bring down the empire that he is loyally serving. He died for something he believed in. Comparatively your stupid ass is going to get gassed or nuked by The Joker for zero reason besides your entire world of superheroes being cowards.
Liking Arivs NTR
Even in Fe4 arvis stealing Sigurds wife was disgusting and tragic, which is why the story is good.
this is why corruption/brainwashing is best when the girls aren't engaged with anyone imo, call it too "safe" but I can't stand NTR.
fuck off listroon
dcfags cannot tell the difference between destroying a box with infinite amount of peaches inside and destroying an infinite amount of those boxes
(You)
It’s already been established you’re equivocating on quantity (it’s not that unquantified means “boundless”, just unable to be arithmetically reached). Simon did that by becoming more powerful than someone ostensibly Outerversal (meaning he jumped an entire Outerversal tier by VSBW logic, since there’s no ‘Outerversal x 2’ tier), by adding them to himself. Just saying “but it was done by a higher energy system” doesn’t mean anything, since that energy system is obviously additive in essence, which is the entire purpose of this argument.
vsbw has accepted quantitative source being able to do qualitative jumps. Xianxia is all about that.
The issue in the space of our hobby is that we always on selectively apply our physics and mathematics to give the best interpretation for whatever character we are scaling.
Well put.
2-C elephant-sama...
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF IF YOU LIKE COMICS YOU SUBHUMAN CAPESHIT LOVING SLUTS
I mean, i dont like that it happened, but i dont consider Deirdre a cheater.
She was brainwashed instead of actually being a degenerste whore as if Arvis seduced her and she wemt along with it knowing she just had a child with Sigurd.
hypothetical bad ends are just fucked and anyone who gets off to it needs to die. jesus, I feel sick. no wonder comic fans don't like the zombie aus. no one wants to see their heroes suffer.
Yeah that guy went to war and died in a war machine, killed by people actively trying to bring down the empire that he is loyally serving. He died for something he believed in.
Typical drone acting like the state can never lie to its own people
Where were the WMDs btw
Outervesral x2 through quantity scaling
If they accepted Type IV mutliverse scaling then they would have to redefine their metrics, and that is exactly why they won't do it.
To be fair at least with Marvel, they somewhat try to establish limitations. Sure, Reed is the smartest guy on the planet but his specialties are in physics and exploring new frontiers of space, I don't think he can cure cancer. Sure, Thor is the strongest guy ever but he's a god with his own set of duties that don't tie him to the Earth. Spider-Man is just trying to do the best he can but often gets faced with terrible luck and circumstances and corrupt bureaucracy and media.
Meanwhile DC goes all in on
LOL SUPERMAN COULD SOLVE ALL CRIME IN AN INSTANT
LOL BATMAN COULD SOLVE ALL CRIME IN AN INSTANT
LOL FLASH COULD SOLVE ALL CRIME IN AN INSTANT
LOL GREEN LANTERN COULD SOLVE ALL CRIME IN AN INSTANT
LOL DC STRONGEST AND SMARTEST VERSE EVAAAAAR (until it isn't)
The same issues all exist with Marvel but are WAY more prominent with DShit.
Up my bum, JOBBERtron. Take a nice long look. I am become death, destroyer of worlds.
As long the heroine does not willingly cheat on her husband/has a canon love interest in the first place, its ok and hot imo
why do mathchads and great philosophers seek to understand the unknown? why not stop at counting sheep? all I need is to sum sheep!
So, things went from
My character is infinite so they cant lose
to
My character is infinite in every dimension and is even more infinite than that for infinity, and infinity, and infinity, etc for infinity!
Sounds dumb as hell.
muh quantity
???? Are you autistic. This entire relies on Simon using blatant quality to trascend. Also changed argument for the 200th time.
Whilst I agree overall, Reed probably could bullshit up a cure for cancer. He just won't because the man is an asshole - same reason he won't cure Ben.
name the difference between destroying a single box filled with infinite peaches
and destroying an infinite amount of those boxes.
Batman existing in the same universe as Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman etc completely invalidates any of his own struggles btw as they could all end every one of his problems in the blink of an eye.
I'm NTA
...thats even worse though.
I think there's a whole story about how they couldn't cure cancer for the Baxter Building's mailman. Also Reed has cured Ben several times before, it just doesn't stick because comics are retarded.
It's like stomping on a sand castle vs stomping on every sand castle on the beach at the same time
idk man like I said the husband/canon love interest just being defeated/depressed like that just feels bad man
wtf do you mean!? GOTHAM IS SPECIAL! JOKER IS SO GOOD AT CRIME SUPERMAN OR FLASH CAN'T DO SHIT TO HIM!!!!
Would you agree that someoe that barely destroys one box of infinite peaches is weaker than somdoke that barely can destroy an infinite amount of those boxes?
The vast majority of settings never exceed aleph null (the only countable infinity). The vast majority of characters with infinite feats fall into the same cardinality, but the degree of what they can destroy varies; it's the difference between all the numbers between 1 and 2, and all the numbers between 2 and 3. They're both infinite, but one is greater than the other.
Oh yeah, but you'd hate deirdre if she wasnt brainwashed, yes?
The latter is doing more than the former so yeah
Imagine a guy stomping and he barely gets the sand castle vs a guy who stomps and half the sand castles on the beach are gone
ATA, being honest I don't even bother engaging with notions past multiversal at this point. And I mean just multiversal instead of invoking dimensions and other concepts.
DBS Goku caps out at multiuniversal since he has never dealt with a threat (or incidentally became a threat) on a multiversal level.
Is that biased? Probably. I give a lot of leeway to Goku's lower showings because the nature of Dragon Ball's story structure makes every succeeding threat at least a dominatingly large gap above the previous benchmark.
That would be worse Yes. This is why brainwashing on characters with no "canon" love interest is better imo, like Julia, like I said might be too safe but NTR is disgusting
then there you go
thats timeline busting (low 2-C) vs Multiversal+ (2-A)
blablahblah [math headcanon]
Simon reached infinite power on screen, as confirmed by the narration, therefor he has infinite power. Then he overcame that.
b-b-but you can't overcome infinity, m-muh rules!
Row row fight da powa
Indeed. I just wanted to make the point that NTR is a gray zone of how messed io it can be, unlike guro.
Maybe we're thinking too hard about things. can we go back to scaling and crossovers now.
My character is infinite in every possible and ways that are not!
But not true infinity! He is only infinite as far as the number 1 is concerned!
Nobody ever said anything about overcoming infinity, falseflagger.
Goku completely avoids this scenario as a character. He may be super fast and super strong but he isn't a genius and has no interest in actively helping the world as a hero. He merely defends it from threats when necessary. His son, Gohan, has fought as a superhero to improve crime on his planet and is actively working on becoming a scholar to help the world properly and we see in DBO (lore written by Toriyama) that Gohan will eventually introduce Ki scientifically to the world which creates a new golden era for humanity. Along with that Bulma and her father also actively work to improve their planet with new technological advancements.
Batman loves what he does and has no functional problems. Everyone else lives only because he and the clown prince allow it, and that's official canon.
Most of the plastic waste going in to the ocean now is from shitty third world countries. Why doesnt Superboy and his twink go there and make a scene?
on screen
needs narration to confirm it
Hmmm
The NTRposting happens because Nia is too good for Simon. How can he be the best husband when he has unlimited power and refuses to bring her back from the dead?
Infinite power is infinite power.
More like Simon is too good for Shitia.
DCDCDCDCDCDCDCDCDCDCDCDC
MINDBROKEN
I WILL BEAT YOU WITH A HAMMER, BOCO.
Nope! Cardinals! Silly little, anon! If he cant count from 0 to 1, then that means he is finite.
I AM GREATER THAN THE AUTHOR! FEAR MY MATH!
And other silly stories you like to tell yourself.
smaller than the space around it
Looks finite to me chud
Gosh, then I'd be dead. Just like Shitia.
Too busy at useless pride parades.
You know DCfag, hijacking the cardinality talk to falseflag would work better if you weren't so blatantly obvious about it.
Reminds me of at the end of the Buu Saga when Goku specifically wished all good people back to life
If Supercuckold were the one in charge he'd probably wish back everyone including all the child rapists and mass murderers
There isn't actually a difference. A countable infinite set (box with infinite peaches) rendered an infinite number of times (infinite boxes) would still be a countably infinite set (you can open the first, second, or nth box and begin counting peaches).
WHAT THE FUCK!? THEY DID THE IMPOSSIBLE, SAW THE INVISIBLE, ROW ROW FOUGHT THE POWER, TOUCHED THE UNTOUCHABLE AND BROKE THE UNBREAKABLE!? BROKE THE RULES CAUSE THEY SAW THE TRUTH!? WHAT THE FUCK MY MATH HELP MEEEEEEEEEEE
KWAB
Oof, sorry, anon. But...cardinals means there is a higher infinite than infinite.
Falseflag? Just bringing math into this talk. What's wrong with that?
no interest in actively helping the world as a hero
Reminds me of that Goku copypasta, you know THAT one
That means Goat Tao probably died, sad but probably for the best
New thread
Anything sensible caps out at Hyperversal. 1-A and over is just magic, deity realms, etc.
Which doesn't make any sense since "dimensions" in the classic sense are just msgic membranes rather than pop sci m-theory.
I'd say that quantity has a quality of its own because once you have a high enough quantity you start encompassing, temporal, aspatial and """"transcendental""" structures so quantity can bulldoze quality in enough volumes but nobody will willingly accept that conclusion.
In the end it's just math and redefining what "God" would be able to do.
this one?
Goku is the one of the best inspirational hero in fiction.
Goku represents the best of mankind in one character.
A man that is not perfect in any way nor destined to anything special, but has a desire to improve himself while doing what he loves.
Goku was born as nothing more than a low class baby with no one expecting him to grow to be a decent warrior or be able to do much at all.
Yet he did not care about such expectations nor what anyone could say about him, and focused on his love for martial arts alongside his grandpa.
Unlike Vegeta, he is beyond being prideful and knows that he is below others, humbly yet excitingly accepting to learn from masters and friends to become better. To the point most of his techniques are borrowed from his friends.
He loves his family and friends a lot to the point he sacrificed himself twice over for their safety, while he does not have a hero complex that makes him think he is forced to police the entire world, is seen to care for life itself and see those that abuse their powers over innocents as lowlifes he must confront not to satisfy some heroic complex, but to guarantee his family and friends's safety.
He is the ultimate hero of self improvement, humility and how being imperfect is a blessing that allows you to be better by your own effort. About focusing on your dreams and aspirations and not caring about what others expect of you nor being stuck forever thinking on what you lack.
You weren't born into royalty, riches or being born with powers?
Who cares. You are you, and you can be much, much greater than you think you can be and others think you will be.
And by working on yourself and in your goals, you are helping others become the best versions of themselves as well.
WE CAN DO THE IMPOSSIBLE
Ok, make it so the Spiral Nemesis can't happen
WE..um..er..
King Porch Sea-Monkey just letting Africa pollute the oceans with their shit. (He's gay and loves poop)
I really don’t think they do besides maybe with Flash since he does go easy on his villains and even has fun like once or twice, but Superman specifically can’t solve all crime, he’s not a god and there’s a story where he tries to solve world hunger but just ends up running into a bunch of problems for 24 hours with governments, people being scared of him, or just straight up obsessed with him, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about besides Batman with prep, even he knows he can’t actually just stop all the bad things that happen in Gotham
"Shenron! Bring back all the good people who were kill-"
"NOOOOOOOO STOP! YOU HAVE TO BRING BACK EVERYONE THINK ABOUT THE JOKER!"
"Uh anyways bring back all the good people only."
"Your wish is granted."
"NO NOT THE JOKER/LUTHOR/CHILD RAPIST #2756!"
The Superman Thought Robot is still infinitely bigger and more powerful than STTGL. STTGL and stuff like the Labyrinth would not even be visible as a dot in Limbo, which the Thought Robot can balance on its finger. The Thought Robot has fourth wall breaking bullshit going on. Simon making a fictional version of himself real isn't the same thing.
no the one that goes like
times goku broke into some girls house and probably made the abuser go free because superman is a retarded bitch - 0
they canonically did make sure it didn't happen though
large star level robot
go post it yourself
fine I'll be back...
They're avoiding it, not getting rid of it entirely
Simon curbs his own power since he can't stop the Spiral Nemesis
what makes you think that tying to do that won't just speed up the process?
TTGL and DC are both fucking slop and I hate them. I hate their fans, I hate their vs debaters. I hate everything about them. Gay and lame. Fuck everyone who likes them. Simon vs Kyle was a mistake and so were the people who wanted it.
He’s no Ichigo
Found it, not THE original but latest one
Successful Dragon Ball games where Goku isn't the main villian for shock value - over 40
Number of fags in all of dragon ball - 1 and is a villian
Number of successful movies - 24 (bio broly is kinda mid, but still decent)
Goku also was an official sponsor for the Tokyo Olympics
times goku has busted into someone's house and violated their privacy rights to stop someone from abusing their dumb wife that won't report her husband to the police, and the mere act of busting into their home like that will guarantee that the man gets away scot free from the law with a decent attorney - 0
Times Goku has had to police the entire planet to fulfill some misguided hero complex and abuse his superhuman strength upon normal humans with no regard for the law instead of worrying about his own damn business and the safety of their close loved ones like a normal human would - 0
times Goku has had to train / learn new techniques / being humble and learning from masters / relied on his friends and support instead of just flying into the sun or getting some boost from a corny speech like a mary sue - too many to count
dragon ball series/runs cancelled due to leftist propaganda = 0
Times Goku got buttfucked in jail = 0
times Goku sacrificed himself for the sake of the planet like a true hero = 2
Number of faggot sons Goku has = 0
Times Goku has been a fucking commie = 0
Times Goku planned a retarded invasion of Apokalipse, and brought his martian detective friend whose major weakness is fire into a hell planet = 0
times he has had his ass handed to him to a charity case in a bat costume - 0
Dragon Ball is the 12th most successful IP of all time
Superman is the 49th most successful IP of all time
times goku had to be made black to appeal to left wing millenials = 0
This is what one major loss does to a DCtard huh?
I will rape your corpse.
Because the Spiral Nemesis is an end of the world scenario that occurs from spiral power overuse. That's the in-universe reason we're given as to why Simon doesn't revive Nia.
H is actively avoiding the Spiral Nemesis instead of just getting rid of it conceptually.
You're close but not quite there.
The continuum of all real numbers between 1 and 2 has the same cardinality as the continuum of all real numbers and also the same cardinality as the continuum of all complex numbers. This is to say it is an uncountably large infinite set.
The notion of 'size' isn't even applicable in these instances, as the difference between a countable infinity and an uncountable infinity is collections that can be represented with them. I can represent rational numbers as all numbers that can be written as a ratio of two integers.
I-I can't debate this...
I will rape your corpse.
WHY NOT GET RID OF IT? THAT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR THE FUTURE INSTEAD OF SOME RETARDED "MUH SELF CONTROL" EXCUSE? THIS IS LIKE A BATMANFAG TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY KILLING JOKER IS A "BAD THING". DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW RETARDED THAT SOUNDS? JUST GET RID OF IT IF YOU HAVE GOD-LIKE POWERS.
for context
I'll make good on my promise. Don't ever fucking say I read your ESL slop ever again.
That's what I'm saying. Even in the show they describe the Spiral Nemesis event as a universal big crunch which could easily be stopped by anyone with space manipulation, let alone conceptual manipulation.
Just get rid of it. Make it so that it never happens. Who the fuck cares about "uncontrolled evolution" when everything is infinite with infinite space.
the uncontrolled process of evolution will obliterate the universe in an INSTANT
Isn't Simon beyond time and space? an INSTANT should mean nothing to this guy
Interesting.
CAN YOU READ??? JUST MAKE IT SO IT WON'T HAPPEN. HOW HARD IS THIS FOR YOU TO FUCKING UNDERSTAND? JUST WILL IT TO NOT HAPPEN. FOR FUCKS SAKE YOU'RE BUSTING MY BALLS HERE.
At his peak he is. but this was before he absorbed the MDL. it's a giant black whole that could swallow all of reality in less than a second. spiral power by default births galaxies the more it's oversaturated. spiral power, as an ability, altogether would have to be altered across the entire TTGL universe since every living lifeform with intelligence possessed it (unlike beastmen who were made through science).
Goku Black, Gunyu Goku, Turles
Muh cardinals
Did you watch Shining Heresy?
Because the spiral nemesis run on that conceptual energy, monkey.
I didn't write this and it did technically say games.
Also I wouldn't call ginyu shock value Turles and Black are though lol