something needs to be done about comic piracy
Something needs to be done about comic piracy
t. corpo bootlicker
*something needs to be done about comic prices
Literally the only reason you care is because Marvel and DC get their shit ripped the most. Go fuck yourself. If you actually cared, you'd have either showed some Dark Horse, French, or indie pub covers, aka the people who actually matter and are still trying something worthwhile in illustration.
i just screenshotted what was on the homepage of the most popular free reading site i didnt arrange any of the titles
Not my fault that no one will acknowledge that I deserve everything I want for free.
something needs to be done about comics
Why doesn't dc put ALL their comics on their app. Then I wouldn't have to pirate comics.
No comic in 2025 is worth paying for.
Absolute martian manhunter and ultimate x-men are pretty rad.
This is actually important so you don't buy a shitty comic you won't like.
I'm glad I did not pay even a single cent after I Hate Fairyland revival #7 released.
[X] Make a product people want to buy
No. Comics need to die so I don't have to sort through so much awful modern crap when browsing for pre-00s back-issues.
preach that shit nigga
A shekel for the good goy.
yeah, like an ad-free app or something
Maybe if the comics were less fucking shit people would feel a little more compulsion to buy them instead of pirating them to laugh at whatever shit passes for writing today
Yeah, Marvel and DC should imitate it.
If you're not keeping vast amounts of your library in print, and not even paying royalties when you do, just give it away for free. You might actually get new readers.
The majority of those site are hosted in Mother Russia i.e. a market DC and Marvel don't cater to and never have. Just like with Manga piracy, its irrelevant.
How bout you instead fix the fucking distribution of American comics? Get those floppies back into places people can actually buy them.
Piracy has become a net-benefit for comics.
People no longer buy comics blindly, they buy to collect their favourites. Being able to read them for free beforehand is essential.
It's like music, people don't buy albums they've never heard of, they listen to them first on the radio for free, then they buy their favourites.
I actually started buying some comics again because of piracy. I read a lot more than i buy but I do buy a fair amount of trades now.
Piracy is good for preservation
There are countless comics that would be lost forever if it wasnt for piracy but if you actually think it's helping sales, you're a fucking idiot
If that's the case, one of the most highly pirated comics (Sonic) would be selling Ultimate levels or outsell TMNT or SIKTC on a monthly basis.
Comics have problems first and foremost with its limited distribution, pricing, etc
There are comics people like to read and rave about online but those people aren't necessarily gonna be American or even have an LCS near them period.
That said, you gatekeep your piracy methods after what happened with Getcomics and Mangadex recently.
Loose lips, sink ships
What have you actually tried reading?
Do you even read comics?
preservation
The biggest meme when it comes to piracy. If you didn't buy something you don't need to have access to it for the end of Time that includes all media music movies TV shows comics and games etc
Why?
1. Nosferatu
2. What if I wasn't born yet?
What if the reprint was unlikely because of licensing mishaps, lawsuits, the creator died and nobody bothered to redistribute their work, etc
Pulled a kill and replace on the main character with a time stranded duplicate who kills the actual protagonist at that point and they don't really bother to go explain the huge implications/expect the audience to just accept it
It's kind of like partially why MK11's story fell flat with Liu Kang
If you hate piracy so much, tell me OP
What's your monthly pull list?
Re-reading Punisher Max with tabs for other comics like Mr Miracle, Fantastic Four(v1), Hazard and Animal Man(80's run)
Actually yes. Bouncing between Iron Man's Ironworks and Spider-Man 2099
Alright, you niggas are good
Slightly off topic but might as well ask here why don't comics have letters pages anymore whenever I read old stuff and see them it's such a treat.
It depends
Some stuff still has letters
1. Nosferatu
to make it Anon Babble related: the Felix the Cat 90s reboot.
this aired in the US, I saw it. it would be lost media today if not for a German DVD release.
the thing is that corporations cannot be trusted to keep archives of their own precious 96-year-protected IP.
f you didn't buy something you don't need to have access to it for the end of Time
Conversely, if a company can't be assed to even archive its own IP, then they don't need that IP to be protected for 96 years.
pic fucking related. right now the last surviving copy of "The Banker's Daughter" on nitrate is crumbling into dust in some storage unit in Florida in an unmarked film can.
i'm really sick of the way the law keeps giving the benefit of the doubt to corporations who don't give a shit about anything except their fiduciary duty to shareholders, and the rest of us don't get to decide what we want to keep in out culture, besides that illusory "vote with your dollar". People lined up around the block to see "Nosferatu" back in the day, why was it piracy that saved it?
They did to themselves by making the push to digital. Thinking only of muh nu markets, they shot themselves in the face. What lack of self-awareness does to a nigga.
its not a "right" to access every piece of media ever. if something gets lost forever its sad but oh well . justifying not paying for stuff just because its scarce is retardation. people not paying for things is part of why everything is now a subscription and we've seen how badly that is fucking everything up and we own less and less
Scanning is a lost art but people would still be scanning new comics for people to read
It's only dropped down because digital makes ripping easier (and unfortunately whenever something isn't released digitally it could take months or even years for someone to scan)
why?
because he's on the corporate teat
studies show piracy increases not decreases sales
prove it
We're talking about comics
How many comics can you explicitly name had their success owed partially or largely due to piracy?
People like owning things, which aggravates the ownership class to no end.
techdirt.com
My shelves are too full to buy any physical media
and I'm not giving money to a app where I don't even own the comics, plus theres like thousands of back stories people need to go through, I spent like 150$ on doom 2099 comics and the story was mid, i'm not doing that again...
fuck off - 90% of these are comics that are out of publication and wouldn't be otherwise available. it's absurd to target these.
it's the same deal with japanese publishers bombing mangadex in recent months. 90% of the scanlations there are for manga that have never and will never get an official translation.
pic fucking related. right now the last surviving copy of "The Banker's Daughter" on nitrate is crumbling into dust in some storage unit in Florida in an unmarked film can.
Such a travesty. There's a movie called Martin by George A Romero. It's my favorite movie and imo the best campire movie ever made.
There's a directors cut that is approximately 150 minutes in length, this print features different opening and end credits, entirely unique scenes (in comparison to the theatrical cut), extended violence and nudity, alternative edits and voiceovers, as well as a different ending.
It was lost until 2021 where it was auctioned off and to this day, 4 years later, has not been released or shown to the public.
I don't care if it's bad the fact that what could possibly be the magnum opus of one of the greatest horror directors of all time is just sitting in someones house pisses me off a great deal.
An actual answer
Thanks but I'll stand but what was stated prior
Sonic comics to me are the biggest proof that piracy doesn't necessarily improve sales or even put it ahead of comics that get pirated less.
It's the biggest disproportion I've witnessed and embody how online discourse != success and even on Lieber's chart, the sales bump was a momentary high.
And it's not just Sonic, Gwenpool's first (and only) ongoing run was pirated a lot, discussed a lot, those pages of her interacting with gutter space went viral, etc but that didn't save the series.
I'm confident Immortal Hulk would've still been a smash hit even if it was never pirated.
We will never recover from the comments section massacre
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Though I think he is talking novels not comics
*I'll stand with what was stated prior
Novels
Definitely novels
Piracy helps with word of mouth but the distribution is so fucking ass that it renders it null
Something needs to be done about comic quality.
$5 for a comic book, ONE COMIC BOOK. The only way to combat piracy is to provide a cheap way for people to read comics when they are released. In Japan, a reader who just wants to read Shonen Jump spends about $2.30 for all 450+ pages that Shonen publishes weekly. In the US, if you buy 2 comic books of 20 pages each, you've already spent $10 more.
A magazine like WSJ could never work in America because Japan's infrastructure is what makes its said magazine actually viable
Do it digitally then. Give the reader an option, instead of just worrying about comic shops.
Licensed comics (Sonic for example) are going to get pirated by a lot of people who won't ever buy them if they lose access to piracy. When the series is primarily in another medium, then it isn't necessarily going to have a large amount of people who make a habit of buying comics or frequent their local comic store or even know that you can wait for TPBs or omnibuses instead of keeping up with issues. I never really bought comics before Sonic and I don't buy any other than collecting the GR15 omnibuses or picking through cheap bundles of .pdfs on Fanatical. I never would've started reading the IDW series if I couldn't pirate it so easily, and reading it on RCO ended up getting me into it enough to actually buy all the TPBs and even double-dip on some as gifts for my cousin.
Just because you have 1M people pirating doesn't mean you have 1M lost sales, a not-insignificant percentage of them end up buying official releases eventually even if they still pirate, meanwhile most of them wouldn't suddenly start buying if they couldn't pirate anymore, they aren't really into comics and only have enough interest to read these specific ones if they're free.
the thing is that corporations cannot be trusted to keep archives of their own precious 96-year-protected IP.
Bingo
This. The people wanting to stop comic piracy before comic quality are just trying to dodge the problem
Actually it's even worse than that.
While the physical Jump magazine is $2.30. The official app, which has all the latest chapters, all 300+ pages on there... is free.
They're competing with $0.00
But somehow I get the feeling that even if the situation were reversed. If Shonen Jump was $5 for 20 pages, and Marvel/DC were free for 300 pages, Jump would still be vastly more popular.
I don't care about this comics vs manga thing, what I'm saying is that those who read comics, who want to follow the monthly narratives, have 2 options, either they will spend a lot of money or they will go for piracy.
Is it all free or is it a deal where they only have the most recent couple of chapters free?
It's not a quality issue. DC is putting out multiple great books every month right now. Reviews are good and story quality is high.
That still doesn't stop people from saying they all suck. Whether it's because they're jaded or because they just like complaining I'm not sure.
Something needs to be done about the availability of back issues.
The latter, freemium models like mobile video games are how they function
I am not a writer but I think there are 2 things that would have helped nuGert replacing Gert as the main character of IHF be more tolerable to the audience:
1.Give Gert more agency, either have her leave Fairyland and nuGert now has to find a way out, or just have her death be something she chooses as a sacrifice, showing character development.
2. Make nuGert a fish out of water character, make her a pre-issue #1 Gert, whose Cloudia is still the Queen of Fairyland, she has never met Happy or of Duncan, and she still does not have her Axe, now she is not just a carbon copy of OG Gert who only exists to reset the series to the status quo.
something needs to be done about comic piracy
it's not that simple the probelm is many books tend to be out print thus the reasoo for piracy. To make worse some things tend to never get prints at the all The Thimble Theatre daily Popeye strips a sad example of this. NONE of the Bela Zaboly or Ralph Stein strips from 1945-1959 have seen prints. The same goes for the Bud Sagendorf strips from 1959-1986 fuck Fantagraphics very much.
btw is there any more sites like readcomicsonline or is it the only free comic site?
Not spoonfeeding you