Miles is cool, and I'm tired of Anon Babble pretending otherwise

Miles is cool, and I'm tired of Anon Babble pretending otherwise

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Well, I'm tired of pretending that you're not a fag, OP.

but anon you dont even know who I am

No one cares.

but I care anon

Give him his own codename and i maybe start tolerating him.

I remember reading Miles comic when it came out, and Nock Fury just gives him the suit. I think he was running around in a Spider-Man Halloween costume. Sonce Spider-Man had just fied everyone thought it was jn bad taste even the villains.

Anyways to my point I think Nick giving Miles his costume perfectly represents Miles character. It's really just putting the idea of Spider-Man onto Miles.

He's a corporate mandate diversity hire, the antithesis of cool

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Miles is cool

I agree.
Miles is so cool, in fact, that he could support his own secret identity.
Or, better yet, they should remove Peter entirely and make Miles the only face of Spider-man for 10 years. I predict only unmitigated success because Miles is so damn cool.

How do you feel about Miles being Prowler 2.0?

I think I'm one of 3 people who like the OG Prowler.
That being said, Miles doesn't have to be another hero, he can be his own person. Sure if they do another 'What if Miles Morales was (other hero)?" series, he could be Prowler.

MILES IS A MENACE

HE'S A CRIMINAL THAT STEALS

I HATE HIM SO MUCH I CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT HIM

Anon Babble is the JJJ for Miles.

spiderverse Miles is the only version I really like, the others I find either fine if forgettable or bad, though there’s no version of Miles that o actively dislike either so eh

Miles can support his own identity

WHAT IF WE MADE IT SOMEONE ELSE'S!

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As a black man myself. He is not cool. He's the opposite of cool.

Honestly think that should be his final form, but they keep doubling down on the spider iconography. They just made him a chosen of Anansi in his solo.

sugar in his pants? checked.

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as a black man myself

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this is my opinion too, I liked Insomniac's version until SM2, that ugly ass hair and outfit killed any interest I had in him

They just made him a chosen of Anansi in his solo.

So how deep does the 'give shit to Miles' rabbit hole go?
Gave him Pete's powers, gave him electricity powers on top of that, gave him Pete's webshooters and webbing formula, gave him a suit, gave him Pete's rogues, gave him the only lifeboat out of 1610 (or is ult. Reed still around? I legit don't know), gave him Clones but the evil clones killed eachother so it's okay, gave him vampirism, gave him an electric sword, gave him flight, gave him finger-webbing, gave him enough super strength to manhandle Venom, gave him room in 616 (what happened to the people living where Miles lives? Who cares). Gave him radar spider-sense.
I'm probably forgetting a load of stuff.

I like Miles because it's evident Marvel editorial doesn't like main continuity Peter anymore (since the 21st century began) so at least Miles' comics are more fun and don't have Nick Lowe's cancerous hands choking them every waking moment

Spiderverse maybe be one of the worst versions out there. That whole movies exists to SAY not actually prove that Miles can be a special. The whole "ANYONE CAN WEAR THE MASK" is honestly insulting. Because no. While a hero might come from anywhere, not everyone can be a hero. Even Peter had to learn this the hard way.

You're forgetting Miles' strongest superpower ever: being black.
It's what's kept him alive for over a decade when he should've been shitcanned about a dozen times now.

anon the whole "Anyone can wear the mask" mantra has been Stan Lee's intention from the beginning. Spider-Man being a fully masked hero as opposed to contemporaries like Batman or Superman and his middle-class background helped make him relatable to kids as opposed to rich billionaire. Literally the moral of the story is that anyone can be a hero if they're brave enough to face anything and their heart is in the right place.

This. At least Miles's comics get to experiment and test new ground for the character and show him growing and changing over time. Peter is just stuck in a loop perpetually now because the writers don’t know what to do with him and the editors never want to see him change from their “ideal” vision

anon the whole "Anyone can wear the mask" mantra has been Stan Lee's intention from the beginning.

While this is true it also not. Stan's version of the story was that a hero can still come from humble origins and that it was their valorous nature that defined them. The way it reads with Spiderverse is a bunch of self inserter twats needing to be told what special snowflakes they are despite not having an heroic or virtuous characteristics. It's a matter of framing. We went from RELATABLE to INSERTION.

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Literally the moral of the story is that anyone can be a hero if they're brave enough to face anything and their heart is in the right place

And also get everything handed to you on a silver platter and everyone constantly sucks your dick and you get all the recognition of the previous hero without having to put any of the work in just because you took his name.

Miles was cool but he's shit now. Rather then giving him interesting stories they just been stuck in the same cycle of

gets a new costume

gets power up

heroes tell him how good he is

the grounded street level Spidey book derailed

book gets relaunched

he gets a new suit

It sucks because Miles under Bendis was legitimately one the best legacy characters.

holy shit an actual sensible comment in this thread, I was waiting for this (although I don't think Miles under Bendis was THAT great)

It sucks because Miles under Bendis was legitimately one the best legacy characters.

No.

>It sucks because Miles under Bendis was legitimately one the best legacy characters.

You know other people have read those comics too, right?
If so, why lie?

anyone can be a hero if they're brave enough to face anything and their heart is in the right place.

That's a good moral.
'Anyone can be Spider-man specifically' is a monstrously idiotic moral, though. It's a shame they went with the latter even when it makes no goddamn sense.. wait, did all the alt-universe spider-sonas invent webbing and webshooters?

it was a cool twist, I'm excited for the third film as long as it doesnt shove more Spider-sonas down my throat

The Bendis stuff falls off hard by the 616 merger but I just don't think anyone with Miles or other Marvel legacy characters have been able to recreate the vibes of what made that initial Bendis stuff interesting to read. A kid who's life got actively worse through being a superhero and struggled because of it. But hype and aura moments sell better so now he gets a lightning sword.

He should've been a custom superhero instead of getting the "pick me massa" treatment.

A kid who's life got actively worse through being a superhero and struggled because of it

I agree, Peter Parker is an interesting character for sure.

That version of Miles, yes. I also liked game Miles when his character was "goddamn I suck at this, but I'm gonna try anyway".

I know it’s dumb but I like the lightning sword, it reminds me of all the web weapons Peter used to make

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I think "lightning sword" is the most unoriginal thing they could've come up with, considering the whole deal with Miles' venom blasts were that they were short electrical bursts, not that he was suddenly fucking Electro or something

Miles will die a virgin.

god I hate fags at Marvel wanting everybody to be in 616 instead of their own universes, it was bad with Miles and it's bad with Gwen and it'll be bad with anybody else in the future

Nobody should still be talking about this shitstain of a character in 2025, the same way nobody talks about Alpha.
I hate Bendis so much it's unreal.

I’m fine with Miles and the Maker doing it because the original Ultimate universe sucked and Miles didn’t overwrite a pre existing character while the the Maker is defined by his hatred of 616 Reed, which I find interesting. But they should be the only ones, we don’t need all the multiverse characters coming into 616

maybe, I liked Miles being one of only two Spider-people around after Peter's death alongside Jessica, and him being 616 does nothing to mitigate the too many Spiders problem

I agree about the Maker however, possibly Marvel's coolest new villain in the past decade or so

I honestly don't get why everyone is so gay for the Maker. He's just evil Reed Richards. What he does feels like Doom could do with more theatrics.

Anakin effect‚ everyone thinks he's better written then he actually is

Okay anon now let's think‚ who was the character Miles was intended to be a successor to?

NTA, I know you're a faggot.

Fucking this. Spider-Man has always been Peter Parker and people taking Lee out of context need to take a bath with a plugged in toaster.

Being a successor to a character who got the point doesn't mean you do.

so that's you admitting he's a 1:1 copy. they're never gonna kill or retire peter, which makes Miles redundant

It's the real shift in the way media is told. The whole point is that even if we were nobody even if we suffered tragedy would be like Peter. Now it's just an endless parade of head pats and people needing their heroes to be just like themselves. We went from aspirational to shallow self indulgence.

It sucks because Miles under Bendis was legitimately one the best legacy characters.

Miles is the laziest.
They could have gone with Jessica as his replacement as she works for SHIELD and tries to come to terms with the death of Peter.
They could have brought back Eddie as Venom who tries to atone for his past and live up to Peter's example
They could have done present day Miguel, an adult gets spider powers, uses them to get revenge on his employers and falls in to being a hero
Instead we get Miles, him being younger than Peter was kind of different, but Bendis is a hack and immediately did a time-skip just so he can tell the same high school drama stories he'd been doing with Peter for a decade.

What if it was Jefferson in the Spider-Man costume? Miles worships Spider-Man and is devastated when Peter dies. Jefferson struggles with hiding his powers, but when Aaron turns back up causing trouble, Jefferson disguises himself as Spider-Man to try and get Aaron out of his family's life. He struggles with being a dad, being a cop, and spending more and more time as Spider-Man

What we needed was some breathing room to watch Miles actually grow into a Spider-man and not being given the name before grass can even grow on the last ones grave. Remember Reign of the Supermen? Show the world without a Spider-man. See how it affects criminals growing more courageous, have pretenders fall in and out and fight for it. Do anything.