You cannot refute this

You cannot refute this.

HB vs the whole fucking industry

But they are cartoons.

I do not understand the question.

The question is what are some cartoons.
And I have the answer. The proof is irrefutable.

HB was the real sameface hack but anons are so retarded they think a round smile is the same as a whole artstyle. the truth is that all tv animation cheats by simplying facial traits to make the most of their budgets. it's why anime sameface is a thing.

also I've never seen gumball just straight smile, it's mostly him screaming or making an awkward face.

also I've never seen gumball just straight smile

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You think it don't but it do.

I don't think. I know.

HANNA BARBERA DID THIS TOO SO IT'S OKAY FOR THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY TO BE CREATIVELY BANKRUPT CHUD

that's not a calarts smile

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yes if you don't know anything about tv animation then you really should stop talking.

Ah ah ah, you're missing the point. They are cartoons.

Comparing one studio from the 1960s to an entire industry in a post-2010s, digital, never-been-easier-to-cut-corners world

Hanna Barbera looked like shit because it was like 1965 and they had to hand-paint cels and photograph them and do literally everything without digital assistance.
Explain to me why in a world where we can do every single part of the animation pipeline on one laptop, we somehow can't have different styles?

the iron man one is still the funniest fucking shit ever, its so fucking dumb

You still haven't refuted my point that they are cartoons.

I'm a different guy and I don't know what you mean? Is your point that it doesn't matter? Like...okay?

It's very simple to understand. They are the cartoons. They are the cartoons that people have seen. They are the cartoons being shown to you right now. I have shown you the cartoons, therefore they are cartoons.

1 studio vs 4 different studios

1 cartoon studio vs 4 different cartoon studios
They are cartoons.

up cartoons are soulful
down cartoons are soulless

Anon Babble defends 14 years of cartoons stealing gumball's primary art style but lose their minds when a cartoon slightly looks like bluey

Yes, we went backwards from the 90’s, back to early TV. This is a regression.

Explain to me why in a world where we can do every single part of the animation pipeline on one laptop, we somehow can't have different styles?

because the physical realities of animation were never the reason they cut corners.
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But, they are cartoons are they not?

They are. They could also be better.

So we agree that they are cartoons. I am still the undisputed champion.

Worst deflection I've ever seen. What cartoon do you work on that's being insulted?
I guess I mean cutting corners in the sense that automating some areas means more attention can be given to others? Like if we don't have to hand-paint anymore, we could use the money that would've gone to that in order to make the animation better?

That’s only one aspect of what the image implies.

Deflection of what? I am simply stating that they are cartoon which is my whole point.
The image is indeed very deep but the biggest point that it makes is that they are cartoons.

People that defended Beanmouth killed the animation industry, people like Andrew Dickman and all the Tumblr faggots gatekept the industry and only hired people that aligned with their views while attacking people who were more qualified than them. I have zero fucking sympathy for these fuckers, it brings me joy seeing them having to work grocery jobs and no longer able to force their bullshit into cartoons anymore.

Let people more qualified make cartoons and not mentally ill 30 year old women who has the mind of a teenager and refuses to grow up and has to project her feelings.

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It's pointing out that cartoons always followed certain trends to save money and time and certain styles have ended up dominating whole decades
People who constantly talk about beanmouths never rarely this at all and instead chalk it up to some conspiracy and don't realize that this shit has happened before. Don't get mad at simple history.

I don't know, I'm thinking that maybe this image is pointing out that they are cartoons.

Why do people think Gumball is calarts? Look at this. Is it calarts?

Death of the author. You can claim that your image merely implies that cartoons are cartoons, but by appropriating the calarts template, the image makes a more controversial statement. One that is refutable, whether or not you care to take a position.

Looks like a cartoon to me.

The difference between Hannah Barbara cartoons looking alike, because they are made by the same people
Vs
Dozens of cartoons from multiple studios at different time periods made by different people

Tell me you are retarded.

Now show the season 3 designs

Gumball is a mixed media show that is in part Calarts.

Whatever you say, but you can't refute the point that they are cartoons. I remain unchallenged.

Tell me you are retarded.

Okay, you are retarded.
Don't know why you'd want me to tell you that.

The bean head is also something you see in fucking everything, especially when drawing the young or characters with neotenous features. You see it in fucking anime or old cartoons, you can almost see the basic building blocks in Katara right there.
Anime does this a lot too, and a lot of "beanmouth" shows are inspired by anime but you will never see people cast blame on weebs, because a lot of them are weebs themselves who hate cartoons

Cartoons.

You but nobody is attempting to challenge you. That’s not even what you asked Anon Babble to do in the OP. Taking common ground as a win is silly.

Yeah sure but my point still stands
You can also do all those 70's cartoons that looked like Scooby Doo too btw. This is also something that John K complained about ironically enough, but no one who uses "calarts style" knows where the term came from

Taking common ground as a win is silly.

*wink*
*wink*

Yeah*

Most of them have never seen Gumball. You can tell when they talk about how all cartoons look the same and they then include Gumball in the mix

Still, you have to agree that they are cartoons.

How about instead of Cal Arts we call it the "Millennial Fujo art style". Cause that's all these retards care about watching. They gotta get comfort from a cartoon or they'll lash out at the Starbucks barista.

Plenty of people took the HB style, decades later in fact

Pretending to be retarded is also silly. Calarts Style aesthetic discourse is something people rightfully care about.

Pretending to be retarded is also silly.

You don't say?

The left can't meme

true true

All cartoon deniers must fucking hang.

Something triggered in you and I don't know what or why

Another win under my belt.

both is what happens when a the industry becomes more centralized
the mid 2000 cartoons were probably the most pushing of various cartoon styles because most of them had their own production companies
Courage the Cowardly Dog - Stretch Films
Ed, Edd n Eddy - a.k.a. Cartoon
Kids Next Door - Curious Pictures

Dexter's Laboratory, The Powerpuff Girls, and Johnny Bravo have more similar styles to each other than the others because they are all still mostly the inhouse HB/CN teams

but as things become more centralized again for various reasons keeping things in familiar styles makes it easier for quicker production and for animators to jump around to project to project

We don't like being silly or having fun here, knock it off right now.

Born to be kings.
We're the cartoons of the universe.

The calarts smile is just a cheap shortcut used sometimes.

I look like this and refute this.

Gravity falls was a mistake

That and Steven Universe gave us the most annoying women ever. Bunch of degenerates who will just rot in their rooms never feeling the touch of another human.

I like “corporate minimalism”. Calling it millennial will have them deflect to creatives who are Gen X. The issue is that it exists to be a minimum viable product. The least ambitious production people will still watch (which is why the correct response is to point it out so audiences demand more from executives).

NTA corporate minimalism is a cute term to describe the approach but it’s not specific enough to encompass what anons are talking about while excluding what they aren’t

Broadening the scope is a good thing and gets to the root of the problem.

It’s useful for making that absolute statement, but because it removes temporality and most of these discussions are about the resulting visual coherences within a given time period, more language is needed for the comparative conversation that is typically being had

its a documentary

You are a filthy liar.

the mid 2000 cartoons were probably the most pushing of various cartoon styles because most of them had their own production companies

The 00's already had a standardized look that everyone was following, with some wild exceptions but plenty of stuff that followed patterns.
The 90's was more of a free for all

Get with the times. This is the furry superhero era.

Are people actually dumb enough to think the problem with the 2010s sameface syndrome was literally one hyper-specific shape of a smile? The problem is that they were all just a non-descript amorphous oval inside an equally non-descript blob of a head without any well defined details.

The real problem is in the 90s they hired a bunch of people who thought

Modern cartoons fucking suck I'm going to do my own thing

But now they hire nerds with zero confidence who think tracing what's already popular is the correct way to make cartoons and every other method is wrong. Doesn't really matter either way anymore because children made the jump to mascot horror a long while ago and children's networks cannot get away with copying that.

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toons
gets them every time