Mind control is way too overpowered, how are you suppose to defeat it?

That should make a mind control villain who is really gullible and susceptible to manipulation

Why would you care about anything else? He has the basic creature needs at his hands at all times. Infinity stones, reality warping? I can bang any chick, eat any food, get anything I want with just a couple of words.

The ultimate hedonist.

Her show went downhill so fast

Send in some robot like Vision to deal with him

mind control as opposed to brainwashing implies some manner of mental linkage
what you need is some sort of mental trojan horse

Like this

remember he didnt rape her by the way
just had her stand naked in front of two other naked girls who fucked

Be le crazy

Dark Beast was Nate Grey's antagonist and he found ways to not be detectable. He was also his team's navigator when exploring Norman Osborn's mind. In Generation X issue negative 1, dark beast arrives from the Age of Apocalypse timeline and it's implied that he could have groomed Emma Frost to be the darwinist bitch she becomes in the hellfire club.

Xavier gave some training to the X-Men, and when Cassandra Nova drove Beast in to an animal state, his mind was recovered by associating his identity with a ball of yarn.

You don't necessarily have to have psychic powers to fight psychic powers, but some characters should be smart enough to have defenses against it.

P.S. A recent moon knight run had at least one issue where he protects people in the dream world. So characters that can do that would be able to resist mind control as well.

Unironically one of the lamest villains Marvel ever created.

have a big dick

This is why Professor xavier never losses.

Only the first episode seemed even remotely good. Not amazing and pretty cliche with its PTSD scares, but surprisingly competent. Almost tricked me into thinking Purple Man could be a non-awful villain for once.
The rest of the show is horrifically bad and was somehow worse than my negative expectations.

Mandrill is a gimmicky version of Purple Man, so he's worse.

Is this the thread

Tell a crack head the guy with powers is holding, let nature take its course

Psychics, Magic, and Time Travel seem to only be countered by other people with the exact same powers. Otherwise they are unstoppable to everyone else.

Purple Man never semed that amazingly unique when there are a shitload of mutants with the exact same powers. Half the time they are considered to be on the lower end of the mutant power spectrum too.

He doesn't actually have to do anything. He can make people fuck him, or give him money, or let him live in a posh palace. He does not need to take over the world or do anything special.

Just have a non standard mind and most psychics fold

Doom definitely has the will to pull this off but I like to think his mask was only one layer of protection and he was just fucking with Purple Man

Magic

Iron Man throwing a fit every time he has to fight against magic is always funny

00's Comics was straight-up a sleazefest.

I choose to think it's legit.
I don't think Doom would be able to live with himself if he actually "cheated" like that. That would be like a thorn stuck in his pride. And I certainly don't see Doctor Doom losing sleep over a fuck like Purple Man.

Mind control is way too overpowered, how are you suppose to defeat it?

Depends on the limits of the mind control, but it usually involves one of two things:

The first is overcoming the mind control by 'willpower'. This is bullshit. If mind control can be overcome by will alone, its shit mind control and it implies that everyone else you used mind control on could have resisted you they just didn't *want* it enough, which is horseshit.

The second is learning and exploiting the limits of that mind control. Maybe the controller can only mind control one person at a time, maybe they need direct eye contact or you to hear the sound of their voice, maybe they can control groups of people but the more people they try to control at once the harder it is to coordinate them and keep them controlled. Maybe the mind controller can give orders to a person but does not automatically become aware of everything that person knows/remembers when they do so, meaning that the target can set up a trap ahead of time that goes off while they are being mind controlled to help them break out of it.

This second example rarely happens in comics, because western comics are allergic to having people's powers be codified or limited in any consistent sense instead of randomly changing from issue to issue because they can't be bothered to give a shit about what they are writing they get paid the same amount either way.

I need a collage of psychics screaming after trying to read someone's mind on my desk by the end of today anon

Jessica Jones remains me go-to example of the poison of the 'netflix show' syndrome, where the mandated episode count and hyperfocus on the 'main plot' kills what otherwise was a decent show.
They have Killgrave trapped, cornered, at their mercy... but too soon because they have more episodes they are required to deliver so they have to contrive a reason for him to escape, just so that they can jump through the hoops to do *exactly this same thing* with zero differences 3 episodes later. Actually and legitimately a complete fucking waste of time with no additional development, reveals, or anything. Just spinning wheels because the show wasn't allowed to be over yet instead of ending it when it made sense to do so.

I think that he would do it as a way to fuck with Purple Man as a means of control. So long as Kilgrave thinks that if he can catch Doom unprotected he can control him, he will always seek to contrive that situation or take advantage of someone else doing the same.
But if you can convince him that such an attempt is fruitless, even if its by trickery, then he won't think to try even when given the opportunity.

Doom actually being immune to the mind control is neat and all, but Doom valuing his pride and autonomy enough to take extra precautions to ensure that it isn't taken away from him by outsmarting the purple man is perfect in character.

I had such a thing on my old computer. There was thread about psychic jobbing a few years ago and I cannot find it in the archives.

everyone else you used mind control on could have resisted you they just didn't *want* it enough

That's how hypnosis works

I think Purple Man is not really an interesting enough character to keep as a main villain.
Especially not the way he was written in the show

he's an entitled spoiled baby in a grown man's body

And that's it, that's quite literally all there is to him. Every scene with him was either reiterating that same thing over and over and over in the cringiest way possible. Doesn't help that he was extremely stupid and pathetic (again, in a way that makes me not consider him any kind of serious threat) and not even close to being the horror villain he should've been.

It'd be way cooler if purpleguy jobbed to mental trickery to which he presumably wouldn't be accustomed to on the account of having mind control powers.

Like if you lied to your ally that an anti-purpleguy device is in the storage unit x 3521, tricked them into jobbing to purpleguy, and then set up a trapped at the predestined location with preptime.

There's no way someone who can control minds would also he a skilled conman. It's like if a person who is telekinetic and can lift 100tons without breaking a sweat decided to also become world's greatest bodybuilder.

Mind control isn't hypnosis. You can't use hypnosis to just turn someone's brain off and puppet around their body, or make them do things that they actively do not want to do.
A villain whose power was merely hypnosis would be quite weak.

Yeah thats my point, sry for the misunderstanding. Hypnosis is high-level manipulation and we have that irl, the subject has to be willing. For example it'd be way easier to "hypnotise" someone who had just ran a marathon into falling asleep than a guy who judt chugged a big ol' can of monster snd hasnt fatigued himself much.

Mind control seems to be more in the vein of neurologically overriding your conscious and is explicitly supernatural.

Makes sense to me. Personally, the trick that comes to mind is hiding a gas grenade or something on your person on a timer because you know you'll probably be mind controlled. You go in, get mind controlled, and when while the guy has you under his thumb the knockout gas starts spraying from under your shirt and he can't just mind control *that* away. So either he's standing next to you when it goes off and gets caught in the gas, or he sent you off to do something and you get knocked out by your own gas and at least that way you don't have to worry about being used to kill your friends or whatever.

Couldn't have said it better

And as for example of what I mean by "reiterating the same thing over and over", I like to use the family rescue scene. The one fans of the show hold up as an example of Purple Man's "complexity"

his initial reaction to saving a family is "what a waste of energy"

when he's corrected by Jessica that he has saved lives, he quickly changes tune to accomodate her and the best he can come up with is "genuine awe and gratitude FOR ME (in Tennant's famed overacting cadence in case if you don't pick up on that part)" for why it felt good and is a very clear manipulation

Otherwise when he's not simping for Jessica or being treated as a joke, it's just him repeating how he doesn't care for anybody but himself else over and over.
The show has zero subtlety in its writing and characters will ALWAYS spell out what they think and feel because the writers seem to have no faith in the audience's intelligence and don't want them to think or interpret anything too hard. Even the big "twist" you could see from a mile away.

For me, it's Psycho Pirate

Even within the bounds of supernatural mind control, there are different kinds of mind control:

Type A: Absolute Orders. You tell someone to do something, and they have to do what you said. Wording and instruction here matters because if you give vague orders that might get you different results. In this case, a person with strong willpower *might* be able to push themselves into an intentionally monkey's-paw version of the order as opposed to fulfilling it in good faith, but for some reason writers don't seem to what to use that as a subversion of the power as opposed to no-selling it entirely like . People under type A mind control typically behave like a robot until their order is fulfilled.

Type B: Everythings Fine. The person being mind controlled acts completely normal and like themselves, but what they want has been changed. They are either unaware that their emotions and loyalties have been manipulated, or are aware and explicitly consider it a good thing. This type of mind control is more of a long term danger, because while type A tends to be goal-oriented and resolve itself upon completion, a Type B victim can remain for enthralled or weeks or years as a happy little minion serving their new master with heavy cognitive dissonance over meshing this with their past actions and desires.

Type C: Mind/Body disconnect. The victim technically has full control of their mind and may even be able to still speak, but they are completely unable to stop their body from carrying out the orders they have been given. Either they are watching from the inside like they are trapped in their own body, or they are pleading with those around them to stop them because they can't stop themselves. This is most often I feel seen when the mind controller is trying to extort something out of the victim and needs them to have enough agency left to agree to divulge their secret info or cooperate in return for not being forced to shoot their wife or whatever.

what did he see in her?

Literally only gave a shit about her because he found her physical strength useful, and then because his was able to disobey him which was something his pride couldn't handle because he's so used to being able to control everything and have whatever he wants.

She has a huge heart shaped heinie.

It depends on the type of mind control.

Sometimes characters wear helmets that protect their minds. Sometimes characters have mental blocks and walls put in their mind to protect them. Sometimes characters are immune to certain mind control powers/techniques. Etc etc

According to the Netflix show, Killgrave has a bacteria that compels people to obey him.
Which means he doesn't have any psychic powers, which means you can defeat him with earmuffs or a gag.

The show made it very easy to defeat him. And he was even captured several times (in no small part because he's extremely stupid).
I was expecting a dangerous chessmaster compensating for the lack of physical prowess with God-tier intelligence, but he was just really really dumb and lucky.

in the comics it's pheromones. he's not a psychic, that's why at one point kingpin shoves him in a box and exploits him like a honeybee using the pheromones himself to order people around.

Type B reasonably describes Asimov's Second Foundation.
I mean the original books, not the television abortion.

People who've had their emotions "reset" by The Mule are perfectly aware of what's been done to them. They work to further the Mule's goals without step-by-step instructions because they're absolutely loyal to him. The Mule's only problem was he felt his slaves lacked a certain amount of intelligence and initiative. Some "spark" wasn't there. He made use of a few "uncontrolled" agents, but watched them carefully.

Just willpowering your way to no selling mind control always seemed so boring to me. Like Doom in that Purrple Man story. All the ways you can have him overcome this and it's just "Nuh uh, it doesn't work on me because." It's meant to make them seem cool and impressive but it just feels like such an intense and obvious jerking off of the character and so uncreative too, not even using like some elaborate mental technique or anything

Just have a non standard mind

autistic schizoid bros... we finally won.

Doom was using technology to resist PM and just lying as a power move.