Which was the worse person?

Which was the worse person?

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Nancy
She cheated on Dale and deceived him into raising another man's child.
She also strung John Redcorn along and refused to let him see his son while using him for her own sexual gratification.

I feel like whore enablers are worse than whores. You're a man, dont do a fellow man dirty like that just for some mediocre loose poontang.

Hank for not informing the affected parties what's truly going on behind the scene.

Redcorn tried to reignite the affair after him and Nancy both realized what they were doing was wrong and knew it was causing her a great deal of stress.

Nancy. They're both shit but at least Redcorn decided to stop the fucking around when he realized Dale was cool while Nancy wanted to continue

It was Nancy’s idea to stop. Dale won her back without knowing

Hard to say they're both just awful. I mean Redcorn is a deadbeat.

Hank for not touching off a probable murder-suicide.

Both. There is nothing to say one is more wrong than the other. They both willingly and knowingly did this and continue to do so behind Dale’s back.
Dale’s friends are also wrong to a degree. I understand not inserting yourself into someone’s business, but if my friends knew my s/o was actively cheating on me with tons of proof- i would hope they would tell me.

The fact that John Redcorn's got a bunch of bastard children around Texas is worse than Nancy considering she finally broke it off at the cost of her hair.

I agree with this but I still don't like Nancy

By the end of the series Dale already believes that his son isn't his biologically. Granted this is because he thinks Joseph was created by aliens but regardless he still decides to love Joseph as his own son.

Also the official King of the Hill show Bible says that even though John Redcorn is more physically fit than Hank, that Hank Hill would canonically still kick his ass if he was pissed off enough.

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Oh I thought there was an ep where Nancy was trying to push to fucking around again and Redcorn went against it because Dale was helping him out. Could be flipping em

I can see it. Hank nonchalantly tanked a punch from Willie Lane

Dale still have the right to know. I dunno about you, but if my friend found out my wife was cheating on me and my son might not actually be mine, I would want to know.

Dale is kind of at fault here. Had he been normal, his friends would not hesitate to tell him. Its his shizoid nature that make them believe he is better off not knowing.

Redcorn tried to reignite the affair

when did this happen? I thought they broke up after Nancy slept with Dale in that episode "Nancy's Boys" and remained broken up until Nancy came back to John Redcorn to stop her hair falling out as OP picrel shows. Am I misremembering? Did John Redcorn just coincidentally decide to have the hots for her at the start of that episode or was her hair falling out *because* she was stressed about John Redcorn trying to hit her up again

If he had been normal he would've figured out what was happening on day 2

flagrantly and repeatedly broke her vows

lied to both her husband and son

Joseph will likely never know anything about his heritage, nor will Redcorn ever bond with his son because of her

callously tossed Redcorn aside once she decided to reconcile

despite all this being public knowledge, essentially gets away with everything (I am aware of her hair loss, but no one knows about it aside Dale and he doesn't care)

Hank Hill would canonically still kick his ass if he was pissed off enough

Nothing surprising about that. Redcorn may be Anon Babble, but he's also a hippie and a crybaby. Hank is a former athlete, had some boxing training, and no small amount of pent up rage.

True. But its still understandable why they don't tell him. He is completely unpredictable and this could easily result in his suicide or a shooting spree. He sort of engaged in a stand-off with police over a stolen lawnmower. I can't really blame his friends for not telling him.

Would you still raise your son? He is still innocent in all of this after all and all he knows is you.

Both

Nancy, both because she was actually disloyal to Dale. Redcorn at worst was an asshole fucking another man's wife but didn't consider Dale a friend and possibly didn't even know him by the time he fucked Nancy and then because he was the one who refused to get back with Nancy because he considered Dale a friend.
Dale "recovered" memories where the aliens sperm jacked him. The implication is that Dale will do anything not to confront the obvious truth
That's the end of the episode where they break up. Nancy goes back to John after Dale stands her up only for her to find Dale giving John legal advice to help him get land back.

You've got it pretty much right, they broke up and didn't interact much except for when Redcorn wanted to take Joseph on a vision quest
The episode in the OP starts with Nancy interviewing Redcorn for a news segment about his career as a children's entertainer and she starts flirting with him first and he flirts back

why does everyone forget that John Redcorn gets a family at the very end of the show? it's seemingly never mentioned in any of these threads about the guy

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Joseph will likely never know anything about his heritage

Wait until it's time to get him into college, then we'll see what box she checks

I believe very few watched the series to the end. It starts falling in quality in the second half.

Oh, I didn't forget. While he does end up with a daughter and possibly more kids later on, his first-born son is lost to him forever.

Because Redcorn hooking up with an old girlfriend that's still hot and getting to raise his flesh and blood daughter ruins their fantasies of him dying alone with no legacy

Isn't Dale literally a jobless conspiracy nut?
He's basically a stay at home dad except he probably doesn't do any housework.

Joseph got stupid horny over Minh. He made a complete fool of himself and he's lucky Minh laughed it off instead of making a big deal about it.

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he's kinda a good dad, at least probably the best someone like him can do

so basically the Will Smith model

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although he did let Joseph ride around on that moped thing without a helmet, but if the writers don't give two fucks about canon during the latter half of the show, then i won't either

Because it's only brought up in that one episode and never again really. There's no follow up that implies Johns a family man now or anything.
It'd be pretty funny if in the follow up his daughter also doesn't give a shit about Native Culture but his stepson is the most receptive to everything he's trying to teach his actual kids whole episode where his deadbeat dad comes back into ...oh fuck Dale is dead. I was spinning a whole idea where Dale ends up telling John that John put his blood sweat and tears into raising that boy makes him as much a father as any deadbeat that shows up oh well

He pays the cable bill

Isn't Dale literally a jobless conspiracy nut?

It's repeatedly shown he has a job as a pesticide worker.

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John Redcorn since he was 100% ready to start sleeping with Nancy again even after she had ended their affair and Dale helped him get his land back.

stupid horny over Minh.

Can you blame him though? He had asian milf tits right in his face and she was shaking that big suburban mom ass around, men are made of flesh and blood not stone

He's an independent pest exterminator
granted, it's kind of on-again, off-again gig, but Nancy works as a high-paying meteorologist for the local news network, Dale doesn't really need to work.

Dale is consistently a shit dad but a loving one, ultimately tearing his family apart isn't good for Joseph especially since he'd only end up resenting John and Nancy.

Redcorn said himself he has affairs with multiple married women and even has more illegitimate children than just Joseph. He's a dead beat, middle aged guy who lives alone in a trailer. Nancy is pretty terrible but eventually she saw the light and corrected herself. Far as we know, John Redcorn still willingly engages in adulterous behavior.

I wrote this post and didn't realize he got a girlfriend near the end of the show, but it's late KotH so frankly I don't care

Both, by far the most fucked-up plot in the series.

another man's child

joseph is a gribble through and through

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To be fair Nancy kept leading him on (and not even in the "she was asking for it" misogynistic sense)

yeah redcorn the man whom i have cheated on my husband with i need you to perform the intimate act of massaging my back

NO SEX THOUGH YOU JUST GET TO LOOK AT ME NAKED SUBMISSIVE AND VULNERABLE

How was Dale so oblivious?
I've heard the theories his hobbies were a coping mechanism.

you can say i'm coping but joseph is a homewrecker and i refuse to believe he'd ever actually settle down with someone
men who like to fuck around don't magically mature, they just drag everyone down with them and become shitty dads for families that would be better off fatherless

hobbies were a coping mechanism

While that's certainly a possibility plot-wise, the simplest explanation is pic related. A man skeptical and suspicious of all things, but has 100% faith in the one person he shouldn't.

joseph is a homewrecker

more like the opposite

Happened in the episode where Nancy’s hair starts falling out. John Redcorn was explicitly the cause of it

because that was the joke. A recurring gag early on in the series was that whenever Dale would make a comment about being Joseph's father, John Redcorn would show up. The theme was that, whenever there was a real conspiracy going on, Dale would be totally oblivious and misread the situation. That got tossed as the show went on and he became more over the target with his conspiracies.

Because at the end of the day he’s reduced to cucking bill of all people, and bill is happy for it because he hated her and the kids by the end. If the show went on for another season we would’ve seen John abandon her since he’s a flighty man in general

Nancy, especially since she barely gets any comeuppance for her awful behavior.

so will they recast johnny hardwick in the new season or did they already record everything they need?

barely gets any comeuppance for her awful behavior.

common theme for the show really

She goes bald, nearly loses her job several times, and is basically taking care of Dale

All signs are pointing to David Herman

This. Redcorn is a dirtbag but he has no commitments or anything to lose. Except of course his biological son, who is extremely indifferent to him.
The person cheating who is in a relationship is ALWAYS in the wrong compared to the person who isn't cheating, even if they know they're breaking up a couple. If Redcorn had a wife too, he'd be as bad as Nancy.

I like how we had two late episodes, both of which are about Bill being happy that he's alone

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They had some recording but not everything

They are about the same, Redcorn has admitted he targets married women because they are usually easier to ditch.

I love that this whole episode has to bank on you absolutely hating Nancy for it to not be horribly uncomfortable to watch

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That doesn't make it okay to cheat on your husband lmao

The funniest solution is right there, just give Dale throat cancer and have him use an electronic voice box.

They're both horrible but I think Nancy deserved worse. In the show they make it really obvious that John Redcorn is just a deadbeat loser who fails at pretty much every pursuit he tries to go in that isn't "healing" which is his karma for being awful. Nancy meanwhile never really gets any comeuppance. She got away with cheating on Dale for years and he never learns that Joseph is John Redcorn's son (though I guess that's the fault of pretty much everyone as well since they know about it too but never tell him)

he gets Dale Earnhardt's voice box

Why was Redcorn still sneaking through windows 13 years later, in his 40s like he was still a teenager?

It seems like another one of those end of episode writeoffs that is generally reset in the very next episode. Neither the girlfriend or daughter ever appear again.

im retarded and meant john
keked at your image though

He likely enjoyed the taboo, he says as much when Dale caught them and accused him of trying to steal from him and told him to go into the bedroom and finish giving his wife a message

"He's taking all the fun out of this"

Weirdly Redcorn actually does respect Hank.

He thinks Dale is an idiot and undeserving of Nancy or Joseph but he respects Hank a few times in the show.

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Redcorn was later shown to be a dumbass metalhead former roadie who still dreamed of being a rockstar some day. He's likely one of those guys who thought of himself as 22 until he looked up one day and noticed that he was 40 something.

Redcorn since he was also fucking other married women on the side. Apparently he was fairly well known as someone who fucked almost every woman he gave a massage to.

Seems like Nancy blanked that out as much as Dale blanks out that Redcorn is the father of his son.

Until that episode with the exterminator girl crushing on Dale it was every girl and they were all married, he even notes that one girl broke his streak over the last decade

I hate john redcorn. All my niggas hate john redcorn.

john redcorn sounds like jk rowling made his name up

Hank Hill would canonically still kick his ass

...i-i-i-if h-he was p-pissed off enough!

I like Hank Hill more than the next guy, but this reads like pathetic cope.

I stop watching as soon as Lucky shows up and NTRs us all.

to be fair a lot of american indian names are shit like

sitting bull

black elk

joe medicine crow

crazy horse

big eagle

old smoke

he doesn't know

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honestly? kino.

european names are just shit like, oh this is the kind of peasant labor my family did

If I was a native I'd name myself Big Cock.

Wasn't it only like two episodes?

I mean it's gonna sound way more retarded in english

I was surprised to find out it was a legit last name and not something they made up for the show

The bit about pissed off Hank being able to kick John Redcorn's ass is directly in the King of the Hill show Bible.

Pic-related.

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NO REPTILIAN EYES

what did they mean by this?

Minh isn't a prude and she probably found it pretty funny that John Redcorn's son planted one on a married woman. Obviously she's not going to Anon Babble Joseph or anything but she handled it the way a non-Peggy adult woman would if the neighborhood kid kissed her and got really embarrassed after

Who would win in all out brawl; Hank with a pissed off buff or Ed with a pebble in his show

hank would never hit a child, just force them to smoke an entire carton of cigarettes

Even if he gets a family by the end that doesn’t undo him spending the majority of his life as a borderline deadbeat sleeping with married women.

Legit, would Ed be able to tank that? Dude ate a bed, how would smoke cigarettes affect him?

I want to say Nancy since John clearly has some issues going on and isn't the married one, but he does this crap with dozens of other married women to the point of having at least one other affair kid he didn't even know about.

Didn't Dale was convinced he was native American? Because if so, Joseph could claim he is because his father is and nobody's gonna ask questions about it.