Who does this trope appeal to?

I'd be more receptive of this kind of complaint if you guys didn't immediately defend or idolize a given character because they say slurs.

Why do you assume that just because I’m a villain that I’d say slurs?

You beat up women and children for God's sake

So what, they had it coming. Gays have never tried to stop me from doing what I love

Are shitskins such pussies that silly words cause them physical pain?

Niggas having a mental health crisis over dr suess ass words lmao

Such as?

Kanye

me with the knife

It’s kinda weird you think everyone has to say slurs

person is evil so they must be racist/whatever other ism

Genuinely what is nuance? Has there ever been a character where you think them being a guttermouth would have made them a better character?

This is the main problem with this over all complaint to me. Are there that many Anon Babble villains that actively use slurs that aren’t part of Hydra or the fourth reich in some way? I feel like the vast majority of Anon Babble villains wouldn’t use slurs anyways, regardless if it’s pointed out or not

Kanye is not a comic or cartoon character. Even if he acts like one.

Kanye and rappers in general have always used slurs, and have a large reach way outside of Anon Babble.

I don't idolize that gay fish.

Kanye is the absolute inverse of this.
Kanye never killed or raped anyone. Yet he is hated more than any rapper who ever did.

guy who’s angry he doesn’t have a daughter as free fuckmeat

I could definitely see lute saying a slur

This so much.
That 69 guy literally participated in creating child porn and somehow he's a lot less hated than KKKanye.

In DC even villains are LGBTQAI+ allies.

I hate kids with funny accents

Is this panel from a real comic? Genuinely asking.

demoturds

Kanye is not a comic or cartoon character

The entire left

Thanks i really like his artwork.

But what about the opposite? Characters who might hold some bigoted views, but ultimately have a strong moral backbone.

Cool strawman, troon.

this is every NPC in LISA

Yes.

strong moral backbone

He was fine with Nagasaki being bombed for the greater good but Adrian used the same logic for bombing New York with a squid monster. He also looked up to The Comedian who is a war criminal rapist.

Who could possibly hate this sweetheart.

To be fair 69 was like 17 at the time. Ye is late 40s and posting windmills on his feed

Well being that Adrian isn't the duly elected leader of a country and wasn't at war with NYC and did his level best to conceal the fact he did it, I'd say those two actions are entirely different. Not the least because unlike with Nagasaki, Adrian's scheme will ultimately fail to save more lives than it ends.

Not the least because unlike with Nagasaki, Adrian's scheme will ultimately fail to save more lives than it ends.

NTA but akshually we dont know that. And no, doomsday clock doesnt count

They hurt them so badly they've come up with the notion of "generational trauma" - that their brown ancestors were so injured in the past by bad words that brown people born today in a turbo leftists society inherit the trauma of their ancestors even though they're now a highly protected class within society.

Moore himself was the one who claimed Rorschach as the least morally compromised character in the comic. "Maybe the most psychotic character could end up being the most morally pure", something like that.

Least morally compromised could easily be read as “standing by their morals good or bad” instead of “this person remains a moral person the most”. Kind of fitting for a objectivist character

NTA but akshually we dont know that.

It's not even worth posting the image of the Mushroom Cloud in the "nothing ever ends" exchange, the image of the Clock being turned back in the "I DID IT!" page or the whole of black freighter anymore, exhausting ass Adrian apologist.

That quote has nothing to do with morality. His purity allows him to stick to his morals but they’re deeply flawed.

Women

I don’t know why a school paper he wrote in primary school is treated like a huge “gotcha” by the Rorschach hatebase. Have you never changed your views since you were a child?

The people who are really upset about this don’t think being prejudiced is bad or want complex explorations of racism or whatever, they just really want to be able to say slurs in fiction by putting them in the mouths of “bad guys”

I like saying slurs in fiction because slurs are funny but yeah bad guys are more nuanced then that. Like i hate people and think violence is funny but im not a white supremacist i genuinely hate every race equally

killing people is ok
But raping people? Oh no! now there's a problem.

why are you guys so desperate to say slurs?

the super 6.

Because theyre funny

The implication Moore has is that he didn’t, Rorschach’s child was very formative on him and how he approaches life.

For some reason Thugs love authoritarianism

Oas; the kind of guy who likes slashers, Spawn and Mortal Kombat.

Nah I genuinely find it annoying when you'll have white supremacist characters but the writers are afraid to go past a PG racial slur. Like the guy was a wife beating militia man but couldn't literally call a spade a spade.
Honestly I feel like Rorschach's opinion probably hasn't changed that much but it's ultimately to underly the underlying arrested development his mentality comes from almost all the heroes are ultimately products of beliefs they developed as children as well as how simplistic and childish it was for Adrian to think one singular violent action would truly bring a halt to future violence but ultimately it birthed an entirely new conflict.

People get upset. When Alan Moore wrote period accurate characters in League people bitched that Moore was an out of touch white man. Meanwhile black writers are the first to put the N-word in the mouths of racist white characters. Being ''edgy'' is touchy because either people read that you reveal yourself behind liberalism or you're being too tryhard

This is basically all modern writing, they'll have a character who has no problem shooting kids but will be scared to have someone call someone a faggot.
It's why I can't really find myself to take much modern media seriously when it's presented by people who are clearly extremely sheltered and/or stupid.

It's why I can't really find myself

Damn, I guess I'm also retarded.
I can't really find it in myself*

Remembe that lefties think that fiction molds reality.
They know this "I might be a genocider but I would never deadname someone" shit is corny as fuck but they don't do it because they think its compellling; they do it because they really think people will think "wow, even Deathstroke is tired of gun violence, I should destroy my AR-15".

Honestly, lefties do this shit to convince themselves of their cause more than anyone else.

Distressingly Islamic post

This is because they've turned their cause into an actual religion, even if they don't quite realize this.
Racism and bigotry are the ultimate blasphemy against the altar of Progress(tm) which is why they react so strongly to it.

for scumbags who want to be assholes to everyone but are afraid to be called bigots

Found the quote.
There's no debate Moore does find Rorschach's politics to be mad and purposely wrote him as an almost opposite to himself in that aspect, but that's a different talk from him having no moral integrity. Hence the contrast to the caricature OP depicts - a presumably villainous character with appaling morals BUT that somehow holds views which align ideologically with the writer and/or audience.

. He also looked up to The Comedian who is a war criminal rapist.

So are literally all Greek heroes of myth and they're still celebrated.

There's plenty of sincere literature that portrays racism honestly, it's just not popular or mainstream because people would rather have sanitized fake racism instead.

you should no not to fuck children at the age of 17

I don't disagree from where you are coming, but I doubt that was precisely the point there either. See, something a ton of people tend to miss when examing Rorschach is how a lot of what he says and writes ends up being at odds with his actual stance on things. There's no better example of this than the contrast exhibited between the first entry we are shown of his diary ("Save us!" - "lolno"), and his ultimate reaction to Ozymandias' plan. This is what you often end up seeing described as Rorschach "hypocrisy" but frankly is more like a deeply-running cognitive dissonance between his vigilante identity vs the human being behind the mask.

I don't even think little Walter was actually OK with what happened to Nagasaki; if anything, what we are meant to take away from that paper is how he projects an idealized paternal figure on Truman in an attempt to distance himself from his abusive mother.

I am an spic, and other spics are fucking racists as all hell. Fucking hell, the average spic shitskin dad would probably make the entirety of Anon Babble look like the most tranny of bluesky user.

Why don't you go back to r e d d i t where you posted this first?

Deathstroke tired of gun violence

Which issue? What media? Where did he say he was tired of gun violence? If he did, it had better be because his next thought is "where's all the sword violence?! Its a lost art, I swear..."

Shut the fuck up, Hassan!

saying the n word yields a longer jail sentence than child rape in America

dumbass who posts JoJo doesn't understand what a hypothetical is

Reminds me of a joke I saw where someone was confused why every white race savior account was brown and why every lib left bipoc account was blonde haired white people

hypothetical

Proof or it didn’t happen

Forgot to post this

Dumbass Anon didn't realize this really happened. I don't know whether I should be mad at you for getting aggro for no reason, or mad at you for assuming DC wouldn't do something as stupid as "crazed murderous gun man is now anti gun because politics"

I want to fucking kill whoever wrote this shit. Fucking christ this is why we need more random shootings out of spite against retards who write crap like this. Thats like making the punisher a granola crunching pacifist, fucking hell....

Everyone is going to say Joker, and yes. Considering the way people react to the N word it would make perfect sense for Joker to hold Gotham hostage threatening to release an N-bomb on the city. Maybe he releases a gas that makes people say it.

they just really want to be able to say slurs in fiction

And?

Psychotic gangsters, super powered narcissists who kill people for fun, walords bent on violently conquering anywhere they happen to be facing, mad scientists, hostile alien invaders, ravenous kaiju, insane sorcerers, literal portals to hell, omnipotent cosmic entities that reset your universe like they're playing with a light switch?
Nah.
One nut with a rifle that could be easily dispatched by any of the thousands of crimefighters near him?
That's too far.

How many teenagers has Deathstroke killed

Wonder Woman should fuck all of Batman's sidekicks regardless of age and gender to establish dominance over him.

Dick go back to bed.

Damian...

I don't like the equally stupid opposite reaction, that every villain should be racyiss for le evulz even when it's incongruent with their motives. The reality is most evil people who aren't wanton supremacists care little for idpol in any direction.

Batgirl hands typed this

I think I'm more offended by the shit art

that every villain should be racyiss for le evulz even when it's incongruent with their motives.

I don't think anyone is arguing for that, just that a villain who engages in attempted genocide or wants to kill half the planet probably doesn't give a fuck if someone he wants to kill calls someone else he wants to kill a nigger or a faggot.
It's like how modern cartoons write extremely ancient beings and have them talk and think like high schoolers (Death in Castlevania being a good example).

The constant problem of Deathstroke as a character is that he has a general badass aesthetic which appeals to the core teenage demographic of comic book readers so they can never decide how much of a sociopath they want him to be

Funny thing is, I actually encountered a self-proclaimed "civnat fascist" from one of the Andean countries online; his ideology was pretty much "yeah, I want a totalitarian, militaristic, palingenetic, far-right ultranationalist state, but I'm not a *bigot* about it". To this day, I'm still not sure how serious he was.

I mean yeah, but the comic is making fun more of the artist who somehow fucking thinks that making the mass murderer "Killing is bad...But not even I would insult trans folks" type of stuff, is good writting.

The lovable rogue trend is total cancer. No one watched star wars skeleton crew, but it was refreshing to see such a character remain cruel, bitter and selfish to the end instead of another wholesome keanu chungus batty boy.

I loved skeleton crew and i agree jude laws character was great, but i still like the lovable rogue sometimes too but the way they character assassinate deathstroke is fucktarded

Unlike Nagasaki

Japan was looking to give up, Swedish embassy letters intercepted by american intelligence confirm it. At that point they were more scared of the commies already on their doorstep (Kuril Islands), than of the Americans.

people who love all races when i ask them why the only ever criticise one.

I find most people who "hates everyone" get really weird when you start making fun of white people. Notice I didn't say "most white people", because the brownest fucking Hispanics act like that too.

nta you're the first one that mentioned whites dumb nigger

statutory rape good

guns bad

Well, what other race do people only criticize, then?

from one of the Andean countries

You can just say Chilé, Anon.

I know; I'm the one who posted the comment.

They don't want to face any legal/social problems for using the slur, but need to make the bad-guy "bad" so he can kill children or something but can't say nigger.

indians at the moment

They don't want to face any legal/social problems for using the slur

Lolno, that's a retarded excuse.

I genuinely think some of them see saying slurs as worse than actual murder. Its why Chat GPT said something like "its better to let a city get nuked than say nigger".

Can we get one that says "I HEART WOMEN AND KIDS AND SLURS"?

Ok, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, Jeet, and assume that you are very, very stupid. India literally has no laws against maritial rape and nobody ever calls them out on it. If a white country ever did that, I guarantee you that there would be protests from all over the world over it

In my experience it's the exact opposite. Most of them act like they'd gladly kill every white person below the poverty line (rednecks, ex cetra)

i'm from Australia

Not retarded if you can actually get a world of shit thrown at you for it. Big no-no words like that are reserved for the edgier and raunchier adult cartoons, and even then it's almost never uncensored.

Yea, it's obvious that they do it for their own ideological/personal reasons or because they're worried about their industry friends talking shit about them, not because they're worried about getting sued or some other retarded excuse like that.
Anon, the only "world of shit" thrown is going to be from online retards, the real issue is that all modern western creatives ARE online retards, so they don't want to be alienated among their friend group. No one else cares, even the European countries that would actually crack down on something like a cartoon character calling someone a faggot are largely irrelevant when it comes to media, especially these days.

i'm from Australia

not i'm Australian

Jeet.

Yes, that is what it means when you hate everyone
Fuck does that have to do with what I said? You can still be Indian in Australia

Exactly my point. That you're wrong and they do actually "hate everyone". Or have you been so busy sperging you've forgotten your own posts

Not that anon, dumbass

Then why even reply

Well, fuck, next time I won’t support your point and you can get tackled by a bunch of dumbasses all alone then

I am an spic, and other spics are fucking racists as all hell

So?

Good

Well, it’s kind of ironic given they’re a bunch of brown people, isn’t it?

No, it's really not ironic that brown people suck up to white people in a desperate bid to stay in white countries and keep enjoying stuff they can only get from white people.

But Hispanics are also extremely racist in Hispanic countries.
This argument only makes sense if you're black and think everyone just hates you because they've been brainwashed by Caucasoid tricknology.

It is ironic because Hispanics constantly try to be racist against other people when they’re all a bunch of mutts who think they can pretend to be white

But Hispanics are also extremely racist in Hispanic countries.

Hispanic countries are also filthy crime-ridden shitholes.

I mean i'm just saying i'm australian since factually I am typing with my pale antipodean hands. Just saying that Indians are shat and joked on for a lot of their negative association and stereotypes currently like how the Chinese were round covid. Anyway on the actual thread topic couldn't care whether a villain says slurs or not, whatever actually suits the character and actually works for the story since It works in stuff like Resevoir Dogs and Robocop but wouldn't work if you had supervillains like Shocker, Constrictor or Taskmaster saying slurs in a comic since it's not in character for them.

swear words are funny

??? You(?) said that spics are a bunch of fragiles niggers, I said that most spics constantly throw racist jokes at each other, and you...Respond me by basically calling me ugly (no shit retard, we are on 4chins).