Worth picking up?
Worth picking up?
What is he, some kind of space knight?
I think it's okay but not as great as people claim. I think it gets a pass that other books might not get because it's a toy tie in so expectations are generally low so it being decent and readable means it gets a bigger bump. Personally I find a lot of the larger space knight stuff really boring and it feels like it starts to meander after a while. Also, it's a sin but I think Mantlo is a merely middle of the road writer; he'll give you a cromulent story but nothing more than that. He's the writing version of Chinese food, filling in the moment but you've ultimately forgotten about it once you're done.
He don't know the rules of acquisition but he do know crazy!
It's a solid story, a bit too melodramatic at times. Surprisingly involved with X men lore.
Looking forward to ROMnibus 2 containing 31–33 where Hybrid tells Mystique, Destiny and Rogue his only interest in mutants is keeping a basement breeder harem he can rape at will for his own personal army of mutant brood babies. This is arguably the actual turning point for Rogue as an evil mutant deciding that if this means being an eviller mutant's breeder sow maybe it's time to think about switching sides.
Yeah I keep coming back to that and wondering if Mantlo was Claremont's drinking buddy or what. Oddly when Rogue encounters Brood at Forge's complex later on she seems to have no memory of ever tangling with them before.
Claremont seems to be good about playing well with others and incorporating their lore or changes into his own stuff instead of just summarily dismissing it. Although I'd bet that he had planned on making Rogue part of the team and it was decided to have Rom, also popular, as a way of facilitating that. Who knows?
You should read ROM sure, it's fun.
I wouldn't pick up the modern omnibus/digital releases though. I compared the first few issues with scans of the original comics, and the new version has so many more coloring errors; it's kind of embarrassing. Plus, gradient effects like explosions look like ASS in the new release.
Just download/read online scans of the original issues that these omni's include, that's my recc! Same for the Micronauts omni's if you're interested in them too.
yeah
saurians (savage land)
russian mutants winter guard
brotherhood
x-men
alpha flight
namor
forge
oh and I forgot about Imperial Guard
and lilterally introducing Guthrie family
>russian mutants winter guard
Do they really count as X-Men lore? Show up all over the place and even Claremont's usage was with Spider-Man.
I collected this comic. I liked it, but it's a product of it's time. Marvel really hammered it with the crossovers then the whole property rights issues (granted, Parker Bros. shares the blame on that.)
Marvel gained a few rights, PB got swallowed up by Hasbro, and IDW did the character better justice with their 'Hasbroverse' comics.
The truly damning thing about this comic was the failed 'action figure' PB put out. Shoddy craftmanship, cheap failing electronics, rushed marketing......the comic was better but not by much.
I would say, if you had read it back in the day, enjoy a fresh walk-through. If not, stick to the IDW version.
I'll spare you the experience of when I went to get a Rom figure back in the ancient days.
Coloring errors
Ok that fascinates me because at the time colorists who worked multiple companies at the same time had a habit of using company-specific pseudonyms for each
The action figure came first, it's the original IP. Everything else came from that. Parker Brothers was in a weird place at the time trying to diversify and not have everything in board games. Yeah the build quality was cheesy, they weren't old hands at action figures.
x.com
Here's me deciding to recolor my favorite panel because besides the shitty scan all the upload sites share, someone actually bought the original art and uploaded a scan of it.
(answering as >148808551) Yes I know.
Surprisingly involved with X men lore.
Dropped.
yeah, but it's good stuff. Rom helps trigger Rogue turning good and its' Rom's neutralizer that inspire Forge to create the one that depowers Storm.
It's blatantly written for 5 year old boys, but for what it is it's pretty damn good actually.
I don't give a flying fuck about X-Men.
BAAAWWWWW I HAD TO SEE SOMETHING I'M TOO COOL TO SEE I HATE CROSSOVERS IN SUPERHERO COMIC BOOKS ALSO QUIPPING
and stay there this time
Yeah, go for it.
…which was explicitly created to take down Rogue under orders from the White House
The first issue of a superhero comic book I'd picked up in years, I fell in love with Rogue immediately and read X-Men for the next 10 years mostly because of her
The hilarious part is you know Claremont never had creator boner for her because she's the only heterosexual female in his harem
A lot of the recent digital re-releases have changed the colors completely from the scans. It's very different from 10 years ago where they actually tried to keep the colors of the remaster as close as possible to the scan. I was very disappointed when I opened the second Marc Spector Moon Knight Omnibus and found that they had ruined Resurrection War by completely redoing the colors, it's no longer an acid trip and instead it's just green and blue gloom and... oh gawd why there so much green
I think it gets a pass that other books might not get because it's a toy tie in so expectations are generally low
Marvel Micronauts and Zoids were great though.
Oh shit. Is this also true for the og Moon Knight run's omnis? I bought those but haven't read them yet
That's a 90s run, isn't it? I had assumed most Omnis of 90s Marve were safe from recoloring, that they just used the original coloring?
Somewhat but it's mostly slight color hue shifts since back then they were still trying to be faithful to the sources. Sometimes they'd have to guesstimate the original color in scans since sometimes the scans were truly terrible so sometimes a blue might be more purple than it should be. It's not like Resurrection War where it looks completely different
Oh so the og run had its recolors done earlier? Thank god.
Yeah as long as they're at least trying to be like the original colors, I won't be too upset.
If you hadn't read a series before, how can you tell how bad or good the recolors will be? I had assumed as a rule of thumb for Marvel, that reprints of most 90s-onwards stories just used the og colors - but for older comics, is it generally a safe bet to assume that, if it's a popular series (your Spiderman, F4, Xmen, etc) then it was likely done during that early recoloring era? Or are there any resources actually tracking these?
There's a lot of comics from the 90's that are off color because sometimes even those were using scans, I can actually do a cover comparison of Darkhawk #1. Ponytail guy's hair tie is no longer red, sunglasses and guy on the far left go from brunettes to black hair and redhead respectively, though they did fix the sunglasses not having a whited out light reflection (on the original it is just transparent so it's the color of the guy's skin lol). I'm told that it depends on the company contracted for the restoration, 10 years ago the companies working on them really did try to be faithful even if the colors might be slightly off and all heavily saturated. The weird extremely off color and color errors thing is a more recent thing likely because Marvel hired some other companies and maybe they don't give as much of a shit or think the new colors are "better" or something
Just took a look for myself, this is goddamn bizarre. Like, in most remasterings of the colors, you can tell it was just redone from scratch, right? But these are late-90s comics, they were already digital(?) I'm pretty sure. So the color blocking and even the gradient shapes are identical between a scan and the digital omni, but it's like they took the saturation way way down anyway and ruined the mood of the whole comic.
Then there's High Strangeness which i took a quick glance at, and at first it seems like it's identical, but then you see on the 2nd page that the city skyline behind Moon Knight is light gray instead of black, for no reason? And the sky is a different shade? And then quickly flipping, there's plenty other subtle but... just, [wrong] colors used. What the fuck? Did the old masters get corrupted or some shit?
Both these minis are from 98 and 99 respectfully, why the hell did they touch the colors at all?
Robots are cool.
Claremont seems to be good about playing well with others
This is from the early 80s when X-Men suddenly got popular, and a lot of other writers started wanting to use them for guest appearances to help sales, and Claremont was said to be doing what he could to restrict other people playing with his toys, even to the point of trying to stop Bob Layton's pitches for a book starring X-Men characters Claremont wasn't using. Most of the books during this time period with X-Men guest appearances were written by people who were also current or former Marvel editors, people it would've been harder to say no to. But Mantlo wasn't an editor, so they may well have been friends enough for him to get to use them too.
Those Russian mutants weren't considered 'X-Men characters' at the time, nor at any time since. There's just some fans, and also some writers, who think "mutant = X-Men character", when there are a lot of old characters who are from other parts of Marvel, and are just mutants so nobody had to bother writing an origin for why they have powers.
It's a case of someone thinking that the color contrast was fucking up the focus and trying to "fix it" without realizing that that was the original intent. Like the skyline wasn't detracting from Moon Knight because he was actually outlined rather cleverly with the buildings following his contour with the red glow and the ladder
Despite the name and appearance he's not a robot, he's a knight whose suit of armor replaced his skin and stuff while in service, it's kind of horrible really
Yes! Steve Jackson was underrated as sidekick. Brandy Clark currently shamelessly ignored.
Oh god, that's even worse. What the fuck? I didn't ask them to fix shit! Modern day, still can't get comics like they originally were published. Goddamn.
I prefer Marvel's Godzilla comics
ROM is just a slog to get through because Mantlo puts narration everywhere
No
Nintendo hates him.